What the corpus says about The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)

What was said about it (26)

1. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 1:30:52 · Chris Ryan (0.60)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ The Last House on the Left · programming · Chris picks Last House on the Left for a double feature as an equally disturbing snapshot of movie history. · "I'll probably go last house on the left, although it is equally disturbing"
2. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 1:31:17 · Bill Simmons (0.40)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Deliverance · programming · A guest pick for a double bill: road trip gone wrong. · "Oh, my God. Road trip gone wrong."
3. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 1:31:20 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Halloween (the host's read) · programming · Bill pairs it with Halloween to compare how much Halloween cribbed from Chainsaw. · "I went Halloween just to compare and contrast like how much Halloween, crib done, chainsaw, all that stuff."
4. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:46:48 · unknown (0.30)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Friday the 13th (the host's read) · lineage · Friday borrowed the seemingly friendly helper who turns out hostile and the killer who keeps getting back up. · "a seemingly friendly helper who ends up being not friendly, the Texas chainsaw move."
5. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:47:50 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · lineage · The cemetery-warning figure at the start of Chain Saw parallels Ralph. · "The guy in the beginning at the cemetery at Texas Chainsaw Massacre, he kind of warns everybody of what's to come."
6. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:03:01 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Halloween (the host's read) · lineage · Halloween felt like it invented modern horror, but on rewatch Chainsaw is the real ground zero. · "whenever I watch Chainsaw, I'm like, no, actually this is ground zero."
7. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:03:15 · Chris Ryan (0.55)] Night of the Living Dead ⇒ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (the host's read) · lineage · Hooper saw the line down the block for Night of the Living Dead and decided to make a horror film with his own ideas about Vietnam-era America. · "Toby Hooper, who directed Chainsaw Massacre, went and saw Night of the Living Dead."
8. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:41:15 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Friday the 13th (the host's read) · lineage · The final girl running to Jason's mom for help copies Sally running to the gas station guy. · "Friday the 13th rips it off."
9. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:51:40 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Alien (the host's read) · lineage · Chainsaw is what inspired Ridley Scott to make Alien. · "Texas Chainsaw Basker is what inspired Ridley Scott to make alien."
10. [The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance · 0:37:06 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the host's read) · lineage · Tarantino wanted the Spahn Ranch sequence to feel like Texas Chain Saw Massacre. · "Tarantino wanted it to look like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and had his crew research, Texas Chant, and the whole feel of it and how desolate it was."
11. [The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ · 0:57:44 · Adam Nayman (0.50)] Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · lineage · Miasma restages the sex, death, chase and catharsis of the classic final-girl structure differently from Texas Chain Saw. · "in a very different way than, you know, Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
12. [The Big Picture · The Top 10 Fantasy Films, The Toy Movie Hall of Fame, and ‘Masters of the Universe,’ · 0:17:36 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Obsession ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · lineage · Foundational horror films like Night of the Living Dead and Chain Saw were handmade and unpolished, an essential quality Obsession shares in kind though not in quality. · "But so if you look back at Night of the Living Dead or, um, Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Last House on the Left or even Halloween to some extent."
13. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:14:53 · Bill Simmons (0.55)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Dirty Harry · theme · Chainsaw is one of eight 1970s films (Dirty Harry, Deep Throat, Last House, Godfather II, Jaws, Rocky, Star Wars, Superman) that spawned the next 50 years of genres. · "if you just go those 8 movies, that's kind of what would become the next 50 years of movies."
14. [The Rewatchables · ‘My Cousin Vinny’ · 1:19:29 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] My Cousin Vinny ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · theme · Bill and Stan's film-school movie of the experience would be Texas Chainsaw Massacre with the legal system. · "It's basically Texas Chainsaw Massacre with the legal system."
15. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:28:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Ice Storm ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · theme · Fennessey places the film between Deep Throat (1972) and Texas Chain Saw (1974) as culture coarsened after Watergate. · "This movie takes place right in between those 2 things."
16. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:44:34 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Halloween · craft · Chainsaw's last shot is an all-time ending, rivaled only by Halloween's empty Myers shots; Chainsaw is judged better. · "It's an all-time greatest last shot other than possibly Halloween, Myers not being there at the end."
17. [Blank Check · Flesh+Blood · 0:49:45 · David Sims (0.40)] Flesh and Blood ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · contrast · Speaker says the movie is like Texas Chainsaw in having no one to root for, though someone corrects that you root for someone there. · "it's like the fucking Texas Chainsaw Massacre or something."
18. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:16:38 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · contrast · Leatherface's real tragedy is that he is just a private man; Jason and Freddy have trauma backstories that Leatherface lacks. · "I don't think that they ever unlocked like what's what's Leatherface's trauma"
19. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 1:42:21 · unknown (0.50)] Friday the 13th ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · contrast · Craig finds it hard to come off Chain Saw and Sally to this film's final girl. · "It's hard to come off of Texas Chainsaw."
20. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:31:47 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ In Cold Blood · contrast · Ebert contrasted the film with true-crime In Cold Blood, which studied the killers' compulsions; Chainsaw has no motivation or background, just terror. · "A true crime movie like Richard Brooks is in cold blood, which studies the personalities and compulsions of the 2 killers"
21. [The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:27:15 · Chris Ryan (0.70)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre 2 (the host's read) · contrast · Part 2 reuses the framework but changes the tone to slapstick comedy. · "Texas Chainsaw Messker 2 is basically a slapstick comedy."
22. [The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:28:47 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2022, Netflix) (the host's read) · contrast · The Netflix legacy sequel replaces the original's horror with influencers and a DEI angle. · "It was like a DEI, Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
23. [The Big Picture · The 10 Best Horror Movies of the Decade | The Big Picture · 0:10:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ The Innocents · contrast · Sean's horror test: supernatural or extraordinarily visceral. Chainsaw is gory, The Innocents ghostly. · "So Texas Chainsaw Massacre is not supernatural, but it is incredibly gory and violent."
24. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 1:05:33 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Obsession · people · The cast not sharing in the profits recalls the Obsession set designer's complaint as that film took off. · "Kind of reminds me of what happened with obsession."
25. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:16:17 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · verdict · Slasher Mount Rushmore: Leatherface, Myers, Kruger, Jason, with Ghostface the next tier. · "so Leatherface, Myers, Kruger, Jason."
26. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 1:14:36 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Friday the 13th Part 2 ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · verdict · Bill nominates the Friday the 13th Part 2 girl as most underrated final girl, alongside Sally. · "I would say the girl on Friday the 13th part, too."

Films put beside it more than once (6)

1. [pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Friday the 13th · said 8 times in 2 episodes
2. [pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Halloween · said 3 times in 1 episode
3. [pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Obsession · said 2 times in 2 episodes
4. [pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ The Blair Witch Project · said 2 times in 1 episode
5. [pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Paranormal Activity · said 2 times in 1 episode
6. [pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ The Last House on the Left · said 2 times in 1 episode

Fun items about it (6)

1. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:05:16 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · Leatherface's entrance: no music, a metal door opens, hammer to the head, convulsing like a fencer, a second hit, then the door slams. Chris and Bill call it one of the great scares and best character entrances. · "Metal door opens. The scariest guy you'll ever see in your life is just there."
2. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:25:46 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · Dinner scene shoot: John Dugan refused to redo 5-hour grandpa makeup, so they shot it all in 30 hours, 100 degrees, rotting food, blackout curtains, cast puking outside. Edwin Neal called it worse than Vietnam. · "filming that scene was the worst time of my life, and I had been in Vietnam with people trying to kill me."
3. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:33:36 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · Hot take from Bill: the hitchhiker is scarier than Leatherface, because everyone has met someone fully gone in a bar who wants to show them a knife. · "This guy is scarier than Leatherface."
4. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:45:07 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · Most rewatchable scene: Kirk getting killed, with the lead-up. Craig also points to the opening, the hitchhiker, the chicken room and the gas station. · "my most rewatchable scene is Kirk getting killed."
5. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:46:09 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · Most 1974 thing: the hitchhiker's Polaroid with flashbulb, 'chain saw' as two words, 'old lady' for a girlfriend, and hitchhikers themselves. · "And then, uh, I think the winner is just hitchhikers."
6. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:50:07 · Bill Simmons (0.40)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · The We Slaughter Barbecue sign and the gas station aged best; the real gas station is now a horror-themed barbecue restaurant and motel in Texas. · "Oh, we slaughter barbecue sign?"

One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (14)

1. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:36:05 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ Friday the 13th Part 2 · programming · Parts 2 and 3 open with the final minutes of the previous film to deliver an early kill. · "the sequels, especially 2 and 3, open with the last 10 minutes of the previous movie to get a killing."
2. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:17:45 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Halloween ⇒ Friday the 13th (the host's read) · lineage · Friday the 13th was an openly shameless Halloween ripoff, built on Halloween's success. · "We have to talk about how this was the most unabashed ripoff movie probably of all time."
3. [The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ · 0:44:33 · Adam Nayman (0.55)] Smile ⇒ Obsession (the host's read) · lineage · Even more so it borrows from the original Smile: what if a person stared at the camera. · "Well, very much from the original smile."
4. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Insider’ · 0:26:41 · Bill Simmons (0.45)] The Insider ↔ The Blair Witch Project · theme · Both are 1999 movies that could not happen a few years later because the internet changed things. · "I think that's a similar thing that just 4 years later, that movie doesn't happen."
5. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 1:30:35 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ Meatballs · programming · Summer-camp movies and Halloween ripoffs are named as categories Friday belongs to. · "Halloween ripoff movies, this definitely."
6. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:47:25 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ Halloween · lineage · Crazy Ralph, the outsider who is right about the danger, is compared to Donald Pleasence in Halloween. · "Do you consider Donald Pleasance that in Halloween?"
7. [The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ · 0:41:38 · Adam Nayman (0.50)] Obsession ↔ Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma · theme · One film literalizes the gender and fraud dynamics and the other supernaturalizes them; neither is right. · "one movie can kind of literalize the idea and another movie can kind of supernaturalize the idea"
8. [Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 0:23:44 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ↔ The Blair Witch Project · craft · Jabba's snot-and-spit commitment to every take is compared to Heather Donahue in Blair Witch. · "we just have to have some, like, Heather Donahue in Blair Witch Project."
9. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 1:40:21 · unknown (0.35)] Friday the 13th ↔ A Nightmare on Elm Street · programming · Double-feature pick: Nightmare on Elm Street 2, called a nice bookend for this one. · "I went Nightmare on Elm Street too, which is an underrated nightmare on Elm Street."
10. [Blank Check — Patreon · Blue Steel · 0:05:21 · unknown (0.30)] Ron Silver ↔ Halloween · lineage · Ron Silver's killer becomes Michael Myers by the end. · "Ron Silver becomes Michael Myers by the end."
11. [The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ · 0:44:22 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Smile 2 ⇒ Obsession (the host's read) · craft · Obsession takes its sound design and camera movement from Smile 2. · "obsession is certainly grabbing quite a bit in terms of its mechanical decision making from smile to."
12. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 1:43:55 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ Friday the 13th · programming · Because it was available on multiple streaming services, Friday lived on in a way Hellraiser and Leprechaun did not. · "Friday, probably because of its availability on like multiple streaming services, I think, has just kind of lived on."
13. [Blank Check — Patreon · Blue Steel · 0:05:23 · David Sims (0.40)] Blue Steel ↔ Halloween · lineage · Calls Blue Steel a slasher with Ron Silver as Michael Myers and cites Ebert calling it the best Halloween sequel. · "I read back to Roger Ebert's review, and he said, this is actually the best Halloween sequel that's ever been made."
14. [The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:03:47 · unknown (0.40)] Friday the 13th ⇒ Friday the 13th Part 2 (the host's read) · lineage · Part 2 essentially redoes the first film with a better bad guy and a little more money. · "I think the 2nd one almost stands in as like, let's redo the 1st one, but make the bad guy even better."

Who said it, by their latest sketch (5)

1. [speaker] Chris Ryan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · A franchise and genre scholar who likes Jason, the early sequels, and Manhattan; attention to trivia, tropes and critic reception. Treats slashers as a canon with tiers. · stances: Parts 1, 2, 4 and Manhattan are the good ones; The series finds its legs at 4
2. [speaker] Bill Simmons · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Loves the Friday series as a communal, rental-era memory and tells childhood stories about the ads and theaters. Likes casting what-ifs and sports analogies for everything. Skeptical of horror at Christmas and of anything that wastes the premise. · stances: Friday the 13th is not the best entry but the origin story had to be told; Friday 2 is a leap over the original
3. [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
4. [speaker] Adam Nayman · latest sketch, The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ · Self-described slasher fan who likes a movie that plays with tropes intelligently; admires Miasma's playfulness and sincerity but dislikes its showbiz satire. Soft spot for Texas Chain Saw, wrestling and Toronto sports. Wary of the idea that references alone make a movie smart. · stances: Miasma is academic but playfully so; Better filmmakers deserve less intention-guessing; Don't need to love slashers to love Miasma
5. [speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'

The shows' running bits (3)

1. [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
2. [bits] Blank Check: The box office game (Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against); The sung theme ("Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it)
3. [bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)

The whole prompt

You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) and wants to know what to watch next.

Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.

[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 1:30:52 · Chris Ryan (0.60)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ The Last House on the Left · programming · Chris picks Last House on the Left for a double feature as an equally disturbing snapshot of movie history. · "I'll probably go last house on the left, although it is equally disturbing"
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 1:31:17 · Bill Simmons (0.40)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Deliverance · programming · A guest pick for a double bill: road trip gone wrong. · "Oh, my God. Road trip gone wrong."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 1:31:20 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Halloween (the host's read) · programming · Bill pairs it with Halloween to compare how much Halloween cribbed from Chainsaw. · "I went Halloween just to compare and contrast like how much Halloween, crib done, chainsaw, all that stuff."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:46:48 · unknown (0.30)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Friday the 13th (the host's read) · lineage · Friday borrowed the seemingly friendly helper who turns out hostile and the killer who keeps getting back up. · "a seemingly friendly helper who ends up being not friendly, the Texas chainsaw move."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:47:50 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · lineage · The cemetery-warning figure at the start of Chain Saw parallels Ralph. · "The guy in the beginning at the cemetery at Texas Chainsaw Massacre, he kind of warns everybody of what's to come."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:03:01 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Halloween (the host's read) · lineage · Halloween felt like it invented modern horror, but on rewatch Chainsaw is the real ground zero. · "whenever I watch Chainsaw, I'm like, no, actually this is ground zero."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:03:15 · Chris Ryan (0.55)] Night of the Living Dead ⇒ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (the host's read) · lineage · Hooper saw the line down the block for Night of the Living Dead and decided to make a horror film with his own ideas about Vietnam-era America. · "Toby Hooper, who directed Chainsaw Massacre, went and saw Night of the Living Dead."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:41:15 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Friday the 13th (the host's read) · lineage · The final girl running to Jason's mom for help copies Sally running to the gas station guy. · "Friday the 13th rips it off."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:51:40 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Alien (the host's read) · lineage · Chainsaw is what inspired Ridley Scott to make Alien. · "Texas Chainsaw Basker is what inspired Ridley Scott to make alien."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance · 0:37:06 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the host's read) · lineage · Tarantino wanted the Spahn Ranch sequence to feel like Texas Chain Saw Massacre. · "Tarantino wanted it to look like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and had his crew research, Texas Chant, and the whole feel of it and how desolate it was."
[The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ · 0:57:44 · Adam Nayman (0.50)] Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · lineage · Miasma restages the sex, death, chase and catharsis of the classic final-girl structure differently from Texas Chain Saw. · "in a very different way than, you know, Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
[The Big Picture · The Top 10 Fantasy Films, The Toy Movie Hall of Fame, and ‘Masters of the Universe,’ · 0:17:36 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Obsession ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · lineage · Foundational horror films like Night of the Living Dead and Chain Saw were handmade and unpolished, an essential quality Obsession shares in kind though not in quality. · "But so if you look back at Night of the Living Dead or, um, Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Last House on the Left or even Halloween to some extent."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:14:53 · Bill Simmons (0.55)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Dirty Harry · theme · Chainsaw is one of eight 1970s films (Dirty Harry, Deep Throat, Last House, Godfather II, Jaws, Rocky, Star Wars, Superman) that spawned the next 50 years of genres. · "if you just go those 8 movies, that's kind of what would become the next 50 years of movies."
[The Rewatchables · ‘My Cousin Vinny’ · 1:19:29 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] My Cousin Vinny ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · theme · Bill and Stan's film-school movie of the experience would be Texas Chainsaw Massacre with the legal system. · "It's basically Texas Chainsaw Massacre with the legal system."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:28:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Ice Storm ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · theme · Fennessey places the film between Deep Throat (1972) and Texas Chain Saw (1974) as culture coarsened after Watergate. · "This movie takes place right in between those 2 things."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:44:34 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Halloween · craft · Chainsaw's last shot is an all-time ending, rivaled only by Halloween's empty Myers shots; Chainsaw is judged better. · "It's an all-time greatest last shot other than possibly Halloween, Myers not being there at the end."
[Blank Check · Flesh+Blood · 0:49:45 · David Sims (0.40)] Flesh and Blood ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · contrast · Speaker says the movie is like Texas Chainsaw in having no one to root for, though someone corrects that you root for someone there. · "it's like the fucking Texas Chainsaw Massacre or something."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:16:38 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · contrast · Leatherface's real tragedy is that he is just a private man; Jason and Freddy have trauma backstories that Leatherface lacks. · "I don't think that they ever unlocked like what's what's Leatherface's trauma"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 1:42:21 · unknown (0.50)] Friday the 13th ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · contrast · Craig finds it hard to come off Chain Saw and Sally to this film's final girl. · "It's hard to come off of Texas Chainsaw."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:31:47 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ In Cold Blood · contrast · Ebert contrasted the film with true-crime In Cold Blood, which studied the killers' compulsions; Chainsaw has no motivation or background, just terror. · "A true crime movie like Richard Brooks is in cold blood, which studies the personalities and compulsions of the 2 killers"
[The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:27:15 · Chris Ryan (0.70)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre 2 (the host's read) · contrast · Part 2 reuses the framework but changes the tone to slapstick comedy. · "Texas Chainsaw Messker 2 is basically a slapstick comedy."
[The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:28:47 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2022, Netflix) (the host's read) · contrast · The Netflix legacy sequel replaces the original's horror with influencers and a DEI angle. · "It was like a DEI, Texas Chainsaw Massacre."
[The Big Picture · The 10 Best Horror Movies of the Decade | The Big Picture · 0:10:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ The Innocents · contrast · Sean's horror test: supernatural or extraordinarily visceral. Chainsaw is gory, The Innocents ghostly. · "So Texas Chainsaw Massacre is not supernatural, but it is incredibly gory and violent."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 1:05:33 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Obsession · people · The cast not sharing in the profits recalls the Obsession set designer's complaint as that film took off. · "Kind of reminds me of what happened with obsession."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:16:17 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · verdict · Slasher Mount Rushmore: Leatherface, Myers, Kruger, Jason, with Ghostface the next tier. · "so Leatherface, Myers, Kruger, Jason."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 1:14:36 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Friday the 13th Part 2 ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · verdict · Bill nominates the Friday the 13th Part 2 girl as most underrated final girl, alongside Sally. · "I would say the girl on Friday the 13th part, too."
[pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Friday the 13th · said 8 times in 2 episodes
[pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Halloween · said 3 times in 1 episode
[pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Obsession · said 2 times in 2 episodes
[pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ The Blair Witch Project · said 2 times in 1 episode
[pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ Paranormal Activity · said 2 times in 1 episode
[pairs] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ↔ The Last House on the Left · said 2 times in 1 episode
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:05:16 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · Leatherface's entrance: no music, a metal door opens, hammer to the head, convulsing like a fencer, a second hit, then the door slams. Chris and Bill call it one of the great scares and best character entrances. · "Metal door opens. The scariest guy you'll ever see in your life is just there."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:25:46 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · Dinner scene shoot: John Dugan refused to redo 5-hour grandpa makeup, so they shot it all in 30 hours, 100 degrees, rotting food, blackout curtains, cast puking outside. Edwin Neal called it worse than Vietnam. · "filming that scene was the worst time of my life, and I had been in Vietnam with people trying to kill me."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:33:36 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · Hot take from Bill: the hitchhiker is scarier than Leatherface, because everyone has met someone fully gone in a bar who wants to show them a knife. · "This guy is scarier than Leatherface."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:45:07 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · Most rewatchable scene: Kirk getting killed, with the lead-up. Craig also points to the opening, the hitchhiker, the chicken room and the gas station. · "my most rewatchable scene is Kirk getting killed."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:46:09 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · Most 1974 thing: the hitchhiker's Polaroid with flashbulb, 'chain saw' as two words, 'old lady' for a girlfriend, and hitchhikers themselves. · "And then, uh, I think the winner is just hitchhikers."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ · 0:50:07 · Bill Simmons (0.40)] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · fun · The We Slaughter Barbecue sign and the gas station aged best; the real gas station is now a horror-themed barbecue restaurant and motel in Texas. · "Oh, we slaughter barbecue sign?"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:36:05 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ Friday the 13th Part 2 · programming · Parts 2 and 3 open with the final minutes of the previous film to deliver an early kill. · "the sequels, especially 2 and 3, open with the last 10 minutes of the previous movie to get a killing."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:17:45 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Halloween ⇒ Friday the 13th (the host's read) · lineage · Friday the 13th was an openly shameless Halloween ripoff, built on Halloween's success. · "We have to talk about how this was the most unabashed ripoff movie probably of all time."
[The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ · 0:44:33 · Adam Nayman (0.55)] Smile ⇒ Obsession (the host's read) · lineage · Even more so it borrows from the original Smile: what if a person stared at the camera. · "Well, very much from the original smile."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Insider’ · 0:26:41 · Bill Simmons (0.45)] The Insider ↔ The Blair Witch Project · theme · Both are 1999 movies that could not happen a few years later because the internet changed things. · "I think that's a similar thing that just 4 years later, that movie doesn't happen."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 1:30:35 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ Meatballs · programming · Summer-camp movies and Halloween ripoffs are named as categories Friday belongs to. · "Halloween ripoff movies, this definitely."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:47:25 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ Halloween · lineage · Crazy Ralph, the outsider who is right about the danger, is compared to Donald Pleasence in Halloween. · "Do you consider Donald Pleasance that in Halloween?"
[The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ · 0:41:38 · Adam Nayman (0.50)] Obsession ↔ Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma · theme · One film literalizes the gender and fraud dynamics and the other supernaturalizes them; neither is right. · "one movie can kind of literalize the idea and another movie can kind of supernaturalize the idea"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 0:23:44 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ↔ The Blair Witch Project · craft · Jabba's snot-and-spit commitment to every take is compared to Heather Donahue in Blair Witch. · "we just have to have some, like, Heather Donahue in Blair Witch Project."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 1:40:21 · unknown (0.35)] Friday the 13th ↔ A Nightmare on Elm Street · programming · Double-feature pick: Nightmare on Elm Street 2, called a nice bookend for this one. · "I went Nightmare on Elm Street too, which is an underrated nightmare on Elm Street."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Blue Steel · 0:05:21 · unknown (0.30)] Ron Silver ↔ Halloween · lineage · Ron Silver's killer becomes Michael Myers by the end. · "Ron Silver becomes Michael Myers by the end."
[The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ · 0:44:22 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Smile 2 ⇒ Obsession (the host's read) · craft · Obsession takes its sound design and camera movement from Smile 2. · "obsession is certainly grabbing quite a bit in terms of its mechanical decision making from smile to."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 1:43:55 · unknown (0.30)] Friday the 13th ↔ Friday the 13th · programming · Because it was available on multiple streaming services, Friday lived on in a way Hellraiser and Leprechaun did not. · "Friday, probably because of its availability on like multiple streaming services, I think, has just kind of lived on."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Blue Steel · 0:05:23 · David Sims (0.40)] Blue Steel ↔ Halloween · lineage · Calls Blue Steel a slasher with Ron Silver as Michael Myers and cites Ebert calling it the best Halloween sequel. · "I read back to Roger Ebert's review, and he said, this is actually the best Halloween sequel that's ever been made."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · 0:03:47 · unknown (0.40)] Friday the 13th ⇒ Friday the 13th Part 2 (the host's read) · lineage · Part 2 essentially redoes the first film with a better bad guy and a little more money. · "I think the 2nd one almost stands in as like, let's redo the 1st one, but make the bad guy even better."
[speaker] Chris Ryan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · A franchise and genre scholar who likes Jason, the early sequels, and Manhattan; attention to trivia, tropes and critic reception. Treats slashers as a canon with tiers. · stances: Parts 1, 2, 4 and Manhattan are the good ones; The series finds its legs at 4
[speaker] Bill Simmons · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Loves the Friday series as a communal, rental-era memory and tells childhood stories about the ads and theaters. Likes casting what-ifs and sports analogies for everything. Skeptical of horror at Christmas and of anything that wastes the premise. · stances: Friday the 13th is not the best entry but the origin story had to be told; Friday 2 is a leap over the original
[speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
[speaker] Adam Nayman · latest sketch, The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ · Self-described slasher fan who likes a movie that plays with tropes intelligently; admires Miasma's playfulness and sincerity but dislikes its showbiz satire. Soft spot for Texas Chain Saw, wrestling and Toronto sports. Wary of the idea that references alone make a movie smart. · stances: Miasma is academic but playfully so; Better filmmakers deserve less intention-guessing; Don't need to love slashers to love Miasma
[speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
[bits] Blank Check: The box office game (Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against); The sung theme ("Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it)
[bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)

Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.

Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.

You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.

Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.