What the corpus says about The Incredibles (2004)

You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished The Incredibles (2004) and wants to know what to watch next.

Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about The Incredibles (2004) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.

[Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 1:02:11 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ⇒ The Incredibles (the host's read) · lineage · The speeder bike forest chase is a clear inspiration for the Incredibles chase. · "This is such a big inspiration too, clearly, on the Incredibles chase sequence."
[Blank Check · Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind · 1:39:03 · David Sims (0.50)] Frozen ↔ The Incredibles · theme · Asking Frozen's director about Elsa's appearance is compared to Anthony Lane's creepiness about Mrs. Incredible. · "Anthony Lane wouldn't stop talking about his boners for Mrs. Incredible."
[Blank Check · Miami Vice - Pilot Episode · 1:06:37 · unknown (0.30)] Miami Vice - Pilot (Brother's Keeper) ↔ The Incredibles · theme · The cynical ending, where the big guy gets away, echoes The Incredibles on systemic issues. · "Right, it's like the Incredibles too."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas · 2:36:51 · Michael Rianda (0.90)] The Nightmare Before Christmas ↔ The Incredibles · industry · The studio asked Michael to make Mitchells look like The Incredibles; the crew held him to the manifesto. · "the studio was like, just make it look like the Incredibles"
[Blank Check · Wendell & Wild · 1:15:54 · David Sims (0.40)] Lou Romano ↔ The Incredibles · lineage · Romano's Incredibles work has a similar 2D/3D look, which made him right for Wendell & Wild. · "Right, particularly because of the Incredibles, which has that similar kind of like 2D 3D thing."
[Blank Check · Miami Vice - Pilot Episode · 1:16:10 · Ben Hosley (0.30)] E/R ↔ Miami Vice - Pilot (Brother's Keeper) · programming · The E/R sitcom pilot aired the same night as Miami Vice with a rating of 23 versus 22.8. · "Airing the same night as Miami Vice, which is number two, with 22.8 million."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 0:29:55 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ↔ The Mandalorian · programming · After The Mandalorian the speaker wants new characters, not known ones, as a model for future Star Wars. · "after Mandalorian, I'm like, don't give me characters we already know."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas · 1:45:36 · Michael Rianda (0.60)] The Nightmare Before Christmas ↔ The Haunted Mansion (Disney ride) · programming · The film's iconography now powers a seasonal Haunted Mansion overlay. · "the haunted mansion ride is like so amazing."
[Blank Check · Miami Vice - Pilot Episode · 1:16:48 · unknown (0.30)] Some Kind of Hero ↔ Miami Vice - Pilot (Brother's Keeper) · programming · Some Kind of Hero was a movie on a rival network in Miami Vice's slot. · "The movie Some Kind of Hero."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 2:22:02 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ↔ Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens · programming · The next Patreon commentary is Force Awakens, ten days later. · "The next commentary episode is the Force Awakens."
[Blank Check · Wendell & Wild · 1:32:50 · David Sims (0.50)] Wendell and Wild ↔ The Nightmare Before Christmas · theme · Nightmare has one major objective everyone is on; Wendell & Wild is just so much plot. · "Night before Christmas has like one major objective that everyone's right on."
[Blank Check · Miami Vice - Pilot Episode · 0:16:28 · David Sims (0.40)] Hill Street Blues ⇒ Miami Vice - Pilot (Brother's Keeper) (the host's read) · lineage · Hill Street Blues raised TV through writing and performance; Miami Vice added the cinematic look on top of that standard. · "try to write, like, Hill Street blues level scripts and have real grounded performances and make it all look fucking awesome."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 0:04:31 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ↔ The Hangover Part II · lineage · Death Star 2 is framed as a sequel that repeats the first one, like a Hangover sequel. · "It's like hangover two."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas · 0:03:55 · Griffin Newman (0.55)] The Nightmare Before Christmas ↔ The Wizard of Oz · theme · The film's cult growth into mainstream pop culture is compared to Oz. · "in that sort of Wizard of Oz conversation of like movies that came out, did okay at the time and are now just like so deeply woven into the tapestry of pop culture"
[Blank Check · Miami Vice - Pilot Episode · 1:06:48 · unknown (0.40)] Miami Vice - Pilot (Brother's Keeper) ↔ L.A. Takedown · lineage · Watching the pilot feels like a Mann bonus, like The Jericho Mile or L.A. Takedown. · "It feels like watching Jericho Mile or watching LA Town."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 0:04:32 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope ⇒ Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (the host's read) · lineage · A second, bigger Death Star is called a lateral remake of the first. · "We're kind of, it's like a lateral remake."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas · 0:52:14 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Nightmare Before Christmas ↔ Henry Selick · theme · Jack's arc is read as the animators themselves trying to make commercial art. · "how much Jack is an analog for these guys trying to figure out how to make commercial art"
[Blank Check · Miami Vice - Pilot Episode · 0:15:37 · David Sims (0.50)] Miami Vice - Pilot (Brother's Keeper) ↔ I Am Love · theme · Defending visual beauty against the 'style over substance' charge, using I Am Love's perfume-commercial dismissal. · "I remember when that came out, people were like, it's just like a two-hour perfume commercial."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 0:12:57 · unknown (0.30)] Sydney Greenstreet ⇒ Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (the host's read) · lineage · Jabba is said to be visually based on Sydney Greenstreet. · "He's based on Sydney Green Street, right?"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas · 1:41:48 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Nightmare Before Christmas ↔ Toy Story · theme · The first breakthrough film in each form of animation becomes the template: CGI follows Toy Story, stop motion stays creepy. · "And then the CGI becomes so defined by Toy Story."
[Blank Check · Miami Vice - Pilot Episode · 0:18:56 · unknown (0.30)] Miami Vice - Pilot (Brother's Keeper) ↔ Michael Mann · craft · Mann brought his neon sensibility to TV; the no-earth-tones rule. · "And he's bringing those kind of neon sensibilities."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 0:13:00 · unknown (0.30)] Casablanca ⇒ Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (the host's read) · lineage · Jabba's court is conceived as Sydney Greenstreet crossed with Casablanca. · "The concept is he's sort of like Sidney Green Street and then Casablanca, yeah."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas · 1:57:52 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Nightmare Before Christmas ↔ The King of Comedy · theme · Jack and Santa Claus are read as Rupert Pupkin and Jerry Langford (transcribed Pumpkin/Lanford). · "the relationship between Jack and Santa Claus, excuse me, is just Rupert Pumpkin and Jerry Lanford."
[Blank Check · Miami Vice - Pilot Episode · 0:21:32 · David Sims (0.40)] Miami Vice - Pilot (Brother's Keeper) ↔ The X-Files (pilot) · craft · Classic pilots feel like a little complete movie, as with the X-Files pilot. · "it's gonna feel like a little movie about these 2 people meeting and having an adventure"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 0:20:11 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ↔ Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace · lineage · Lucas's goofy special-edition additions anticipate the broad humor of the prequels, such as Jar Jar. · "It's weird how many of the Lucas alterations are like really goofy broad humor."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas · 0:31:42 · David Sims (0.40)] Danny Elfman ↔ The Nightmare Before Christmas · craft · Elfman wrote songs off Burton's story beats with no script, and the script came after. · "Burton is basically describing the story beats, and Elfman is writing songs off of the story beats"
[Blank Check · Miami Vice - Pilot Episode · 0:25:21 · unknown (0.30)] Lost ↔ Miami Vice - Pilot (Brother's Keeper) · craft · Lost's pilot is great, the second episode flatter, and the real direction arrives with Walkabout. · "Like, the Lost Pilot is a great pilot."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi · 0:29:00 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ↔ Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens · lineage · Luke's lost lightsaber (his father's) turns up again in The Force Awakens. · "Which then reappears, of course, in The Force Awakens."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas · 0:49:28 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Joe Ranft ↔ The Nightmare Before Christmas · craft · Ranft is counted among the five people credited with shaping the film's story. · "Thompson, Joe Ramped, Elfman, Selleck, Burton, all can be given a fair amount of credit for the shaping of this film."
[speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
[speaker] Michael Rianda · latest sketch, Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas · Loves hand-made animation with visible thumbprints, Ren and Stimpy, The Simpsons, experimental animators and Pixar's manifesto culture. Can't stand CG-printed stop-motion faces and celebrity casting. A sucker for the Willy-Wonka feel of a stop-motion set. · stances: Animators are inwardly little artists chafing at studios; Treat a movie like a jailbreak; Celebrity casting doesn't matter; Hand-made imperfections make stop motion magic
[bits] Blank Check: The box office game (Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against); The sung theme ("Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it)

Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with The Incredibles (2004); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend The Incredibles (2004) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.

Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.

You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.

Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.