What the corpus says about The Avengers (2012)
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What was said about it (26)
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:13:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Avengers ↔ Thor · programming · Thor was treated as a loss leader, a stepping stone to the Avengers. · "Thor was treated as a loss leader, essentially."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:16:00 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 3 ↔ The Avengers · programming · Phase 2 begins here and Avengers' victory lap gave Feige room to let each film feel individual. · "They're on such a victory lap that it feels like this is the one little chunk of time where Kevin Feige lets go a little bit."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:09 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. · programming · Coulson was brought back for the TV show but kept out of the movies, signaling the TV show is only loosely connected. · "you can be in the TV show, like, because we need, you know, a star for the show"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:32 · David Sims (0.40)] Captain Marvel ↔ The Avengers · programming · Captain Marvel is a 1990s prequel in which Fury still has both eyes, bringing back Coulson/Fury; they predict nineties-reference gags. · "So in that one, Nick Fury has 2 eyes."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read) · programming · Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list. · "We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:02:12 · Griffin Newman (0.35)] Thor ↔ The Avengers · programming · The Hawkeye cameo, with no interaction, made the speaker doubt the Avengers team-up would work. · "The thing you want to see is how they talk and interact with each other."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:12:08 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 2 ↔ The Avengers · programming · Feige pushed more cinematic-universe setup after the first film, but held most back; the Fury scene and shield joke are the result. · "Let's build shield outlets, like give them, you know, a little more of what they want."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] The Avengers ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · The Tesseract, the glowing box, was a MacGuffin in the first Avengers and in Infinity War. · "you may remember the Tesseract from the 1st Avengers film, and then, of course, the most recent Avengers film, Avengers Infinity War"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read) · lineage · The Hulk echoes Tony Stark's words from the first Avengers; the movie is full of callbacks. · "echoing Tony Stark's words from the Avengers 2012"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 0:44:01 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · lineage · In 2012 Banner could become the Hulk at will; now he cannot at all. · "where Bruce Banner could turn into the Hulk at Will, and now he can't turn into it at all"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B. · "This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone. · "And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read) · lineage · Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens. · "Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:47:09 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: The Phantom Menace ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read) · lineage · The Chitauri transport creature with troops jumping off recalls the Battle Droid transport. · "it's like the thing in Phantom Menace, the, uh, Battle Droid Transport."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:05:58 · David Sims (0.45)] Thor ↔ The Avengers · lineage · The Ultimates reimagined Thor as a possible revolutionary claiming to be a god, versus the film's real Thor. · "in the ultimates, Mark Miller's take is like Thor is sort of like this revolutionary guy who claims he's a god"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read) · lineage · Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out. · "The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read) · lineage · Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it. · "That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:49:27 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ The Avengers · lineage · Tony's end cameo promises a team that Iron Man's Avengers arc and Nick Fury's pitch in Iron Man 2 contradict; a Blu-ray one-shot was needed to patch it. · "So this is one of those things where they just like rewrite the film's 3 movies later because chest beaten's like, that makes no sense."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 1:00:08 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ Spider-Man: Homecoming · theme · Homecoming's Mary Jane reveal avoided fan service in favor of storytelling. · "the reveal of MJ of Mary Jane at the end of the movie was really powerful"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:14:58 · unknown (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ The Mighty Ducks · theme · The team takes a long time to work well together, the Mighty Ducks arc. · "No, it's about... It's the mighty ducks."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:18:58 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read) · theme · Ben's favorite Marvel movie; Hulk's journey into space follows from here. · "Ragnarok is 100% Ben's favorite Marvel movie."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:55:14 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ↔ Sully · theme · Shield's board distrusts the Avengers the way the flight board distrusted Sully, who was right. · "They didn't trust Sully, but Sully was right."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50)] The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read) · theme · Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD. · "Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:53:52 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ↔ Avengers: Age of Ultron · craft · The first Avengers' bright final daylight action is a big plus; Ultron is daylight but gloomy. · "That's another big plus to Avengers, the the 1st one, totally, total daylight stuff."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:45:47 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ Thor · craft · Jumping-out-of-planes shots are a Marvel habit they have been counting (about six). · "We've been keeping count. There are like 6 of them."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:02:23 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ Lost · craft · Selvig's fake beard in the mobile lab is a continuity fix like Lost's, glued on across time periods. · "What they're doing here is the thing that they did on Lost, where they had to cut between different time periods."
Films put beside it more than once (6)
- [pairs] The Avengers ↔ Thor · said 6 times in 3 episodes
- [pairs] The Avengers ↔ The Incredible Hulk · said 6 times in 2 episodes
- [pairs] The Avengers ↔ Iron Man 3 · said 5 times in 3 episodes
- [pairs] The Avengers ↔ Iron Man · said 5 times in 2 episodes
- [pairs] The Avengers ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · said 3 times in 2 episodes
- [pairs] The Avengers ↔ Iron Man 2 · said 3 times in 1 episode
Fun items about it (5)
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:01:09 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers · fun · Paramount still has its logo on a film Disney bought; they joke Paramount staked its territory and Disney got the last laugh by earning more. · "Paramount made so much money for selling these movies, but Disney got the last laugh because they made even more money buying these movies."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:46:38 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers · fun · Whedon's addition that was not in the Penn draft: the heroes must fight each other first; see the Thor/Iron Man/Cap forest fight at 0:47-0:50 and Cap's shield versus Mjolnir. · "They have to fight each other."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:14:01 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers · fun · The end-credits 'battle wounds' sequence; one host watches it to get pumped. · "If I'm trying to get jacked for something, I watch this end credit sequence."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:16:39 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers · fun · Opening weekend box office: $207 million (May 4), then Think Like a Man, The Hunger Games, The Pirates! Band of Misfits, The Lucky One in the top five. · "Avengers breaks the box office record makes 207."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:23:09 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers · fun · The post-credits shawarma scene: Chris Evans had a beard from another shoot, so his arm hides it. · "I think Chris Evans had a beard, uh, because he was shooting a different movie when they shot this"
One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (18)
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:23:12 · Griffin or David (0.35)] Iron Man ↔ The Incredible Hulk · programming · Both Iron Man's post-credits Fury scene and Tony's Hulk cameo got audiences cheering, building the idea of a shared universe. · "I was so invested in the idea, which seems hilarious now of a cinematic universe."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:33:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Justice League ↔ Thor · programming · Justice League must make Cyborg, Aquaman, and the Flash into linchpins the way Thor and Captain America are. · "They have to be the Thor, they have to be the Captain America."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:23:12 · Griffin or David (0.35)] Iron Man ↔ The Incredible Hulk · programming · Both Iron Man's post-credits Fury scene and Tony's Hulk cameo got audiences cheering, building the idea of a shared universe. · "I was so invested in the idea, which seems hilarious now of a cinematic universe."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · Marvel gives each film a different genre; Winter Soldier is the political thriller, Iron Man 3 the noir/buddy film. · "Right. So this is when they're like, Iron Man 3 is sort of like a noir and like a buddy film, Dark World is like high fantasy."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:49:22 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Black Panther looks like the best bet to carry the MCU into the next phase after Infinity War. · "Black Panther certainly looks to be the best bet to carry the series into phase four"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:36:32 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) · programming · The WWII super-soldier line makes theater audiences excited for a Captain America reference, a habit Iron Man 2 repeats. · "Iron Man 2 is the guiltiest of that."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 2:08:10 · David Sims (0.45)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Thor · programming · Cap opened to about 65 million like Thor, finished near 176 worldwide domestic and around 370 vs Thor's 450. · "Cap opens pretty much exactly the same as Thor, 65."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:18:06 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Iron Man 2 · programming · Griffin has a point about Paltrow in Iron Man 2 and promises a separate Iron Man 2 commentary. · "We're going to do an Iron Man 2 commentary so we can talk about the movie I want to talk about there."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:21:21 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 3 ↔ Pain & Gain · programming · Pain & Gain opened the same spring with a big second-week drop; The Rock's performance is called the smartest use of him. · "Smartest anyone has ever used him."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:52:39 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Guardians 3 is certain and Star-Lord is now a primary MCU figure. · "Chris Pratt, obviously, there will be a Guardians 3."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:31:34 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) (the host's read) · programming · The hero jumping out of a hangar plane becomes a recurring Marvel image, starting here and used in Black Panther and Captain America. · "And this is the 1st of what then becomes the Marvel trope where a hero is either pushed out of or jumps out of the back of like a hangar plane."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:50:54 · David Sims (0.50)] Thor ↔ Fast Five · programming · Thor's opening was the Memorial Day-season release, with Fast Five as the number two film in its 2nd weekend. · "Number 2 is one of the best movies of this year."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:48:57 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Thor · programming · The hosts preview the next trio: Thor, Captain America, Avengers; one hates Thor. · "So what our next three is going to be Thor, Captain America, Avengers."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:23:04 · unknown (0.30)] 42 ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · 42 and a run of April 2013 releases are compared in the Box Office Mojo segment. · "That we waited this long for a Jackie Robinson movie and that Brian Helgeland ended up making it such a disappointment."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:57:00 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Avengers: Infinity War ↔ Ant-Man and the Wasp · programming · Whether Ant-Man and the Wasp matters as much as Infinity War is a test of Marvel overexposure. · "At what point does Ant-man and the Wasp not matter as much as Infinity War?"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:51:33 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Consultant ↔ The Incredible Hulk · programming · The short on the Thor Blu-ray explains Tony's cameo as a ploy to sabotage the recruitment of Blonsky. · "They see him as a war hero and blame the devastation of Harlem and Bruce Banner."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 2:07:38 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 2 ↔ Thor · programming · Its post-credit scene is called the weakest, existing only to announce Thor's film, much like the Captain Marvel tag after Infinity War. · "Because essentially it's just like Thor, Thor, will be the star of a new movie."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:01:42 · unknown (Griffin) (0.50)] Iron Man ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Mentions Captain Marvel's upcoming 90s setting and Kamala Khan idolizing her as a possible future movie. · "And then like models herself after Captain Marvel."
Who said it, by their latest sketch (4)
- [speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
- [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
- [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
- [speaker] David Shoemaker · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · Believes the best wrestling movies are documentaries and cult oddities; loves weird, tonally pure b-movies like Body Slam and Paradise Alley. Dislikes tone-deaf studio efforts like Ready to Rumble. A sucker for wrestling's blur of real and fake. · stances: Documentaries beat fiction for wrestling; The Wrestler is the best wrestling movie; Fiction fails when it treats a fake sport in a fake world; Wrestling history (Gold Dust Trio, Sputnik Monroe) deserves movies
The shows' running bits (1)
- [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
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You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished The Avengers (2012) and wants to know what to watch next. Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about The Avengers (2012) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion. [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:13:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Avengers ↔ Thor · programming · Thor was treated as a loss leader, a stepping stone to the Avengers. · "Thor was treated as a loss leader, essentially." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:16:00 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 3 ↔ The Avengers · programming · Phase 2 begins here and Avengers' victory lap gave Feige room to let each film feel individual. · "They're on such a victory lap that it feels like this is the one little chunk of time where Kevin Feige lets go a little bit." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:09 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. · programming · Coulson was brought back for the TV show but kept out of the movies, signaling the TV show is only loosely connected. · "you can be in the TV show, like, because we need, you know, a star for the show" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:32 · David Sims (0.40)] Captain Marvel ↔ The Avengers · programming · Captain Marvel is a 1990s prequel in which Fury still has both eyes, bringing back Coulson/Fury; they predict nineties-reference gags. · "So in that one, Nick Fury has 2 eyes." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read) · programming · Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list. · "We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:02:12 · Griffin Newman (0.35)] Thor ↔ The Avengers · programming · The Hawkeye cameo, with no interaction, made the speaker doubt the Avengers team-up would work. · "The thing you want to see is how they talk and interact with each other." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:12:08 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 2 ↔ The Avengers · programming · Feige pushed more cinematic-universe setup after the first film, but held most back; the Fury scene and shield joke are the result. · "Let's build shield outlets, like give them, you know, a little more of what they want." [The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] The Avengers ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · The Tesseract, the glowing box, was a MacGuffin in the first Avengers and in Infinity War. · "you may remember the Tesseract from the 1st Avengers film, and then, of course, the most recent Avengers film, Avengers Infinity War" [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read) · lineage · The Hulk echoes Tony Stark's words from the first Avengers; the movie is full of callbacks. · "echoing Tony Stark's words from the Avengers 2012" [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 0:44:01 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · lineage · In 2012 Banner could become the Hulk at will; now he cannot at all. · "where Bruce Banner could turn into the Hulk at Will, and now he can't turn into it at all" [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B. · "This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone. · "And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read) · lineage · Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens. · "Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:47:09 · unknown (0.30)] Star Wars: The Phantom Menace ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read) · lineage · The Chitauri transport creature with troops jumping off recalls the Battle Droid transport. · "it's like the thing in Phantom Menace, the, uh, Battle Droid Transport." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:05:58 · David Sims (0.45)] Thor ↔ The Avengers · lineage · The Ultimates reimagined Thor as a possible revolutionary claiming to be a god, versus the film's real Thor. · "in the ultimates, Mark Miller's take is like Thor is sort of like this revolutionary guy who claims he's a god" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read) · lineage · Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out. · "The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read) · lineage · Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it. · "That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:49:27 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ The Avengers · lineage · Tony's end cameo promises a team that Iron Man's Avengers arc and Nick Fury's pitch in Iron Man 2 contradict; a Blu-ray one-shot was needed to patch it. · "So this is one of those things where they just like rewrite the film's 3 movies later because chest beaten's like, that makes no sense." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 1:00:08 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ Spider-Man: Homecoming · theme · Homecoming's Mary Jane reveal avoided fan service in favor of storytelling. · "the reveal of MJ of Mary Jane at the end of the movie was really powerful" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:14:58 · unknown (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ The Mighty Ducks · theme · The team takes a long time to work well together, the Mighty Ducks arc. · "No, it's about... It's the mighty ducks." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:18:58 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read) · theme · Ben's favorite Marvel movie; Hulk's journey into space follows from here. · "Ragnarok is 100% Ben's favorite Marvel movie." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:55:14 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ↔ Sully · theme · Shield's board distrusts the Avengers the way the flight board distrusted Sully, who was right. · "They didn't trust Sully, but Sully was right." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50)] The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read) · theme · Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD. · "Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this." [Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:53:52 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ↔ Avengers: Age of Ultron · craft · The first Avengers' bright final daylight action is a big plus; Ultron is daylight but gloomy. · "That's another big plus to Avengers, the the 1st one, totally, total daylight stuff." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:45:47 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ Thor · craft · Jumping-out-of-planes shots are a Marvel habit they have been counting (about six). · "We've been keeping count. There are like 6 of them." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:02:23 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ Lost · craft · Selvig's fake beard in the mobile lab is a continuity fix like Lost's, glued on across time periods. · "What they're doing here is the thing that they did on Lost, where they had to cut between different time periods." [pairs] The Avengers ↔ Thor · said 6 times in 3 episodes [pairs] The Avengers ↔ The Incredible Hulk · said 6 times in 2 episodes [pairs] The Avengers ↔ Iron Man 3 · said 5 times in 3 episodes [pairs] The Avengers ↔ Iron Man · said 5 times in 2 episodes [pairs] The Avengers ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · said 3 times in 2 episodes [pairs] The Avengers ↔ Iron Man 2 · said 3 times in 1 episode [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:01:09 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers · fun · Paramount still has its logo on a film Disney bought; they joke Paramount staked its territory and Disney got the last laugh by earning more. · "Paramount made so much money for selling these movies, but Disney got the last laugh because they made even more money buying these movies." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:46:38 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers · fun · Whedon's addition that was not in the Penn draft: the heroes must fight each other first; see the Thor/Iron Man/Cap forest fight at 0:47-0:50 and Cap's shield versus Mjolnir. · "They have to fight each other." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:14:01 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers · fun · The end-credits 'battle wounds' sequence; one host watches it to get pumped. · "If I'm trying to get jacked for something, I watch this end credit sequence." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:16:39 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers · fun · Opening weekend box office: $207 million (May 4), then Think Like a Man, The Hunger Games, The Pirates! Band of Misfits, The Lucky One in the top five. · "Avengers breaks the box office record makes 207." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:23:09 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers · fun · The post-credits shawarma scene: Chris Evans had a beard from another shoot, so his arm hides it. · "I think Chris Evans had a beard, uh, because he was shooting a different movie when they shot this" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:23:12 · Griffin or David (0.35)] Iron Man ↔ The Incredible Hulk · programming · Both Iron Man's post-credits Fury scene and Tony's Hulk cameo got audiences cheering, building the idea of a shared universe. · "I was so invested in the idea, which seems hilarious now of a cinematic universe." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:33:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Justice League ↔ Thor · programming · Justice League must make Cyborg, Aquaman, and the Flash into linchpins the way Thor and Captain America are. · "They have to be the Thor, they have to be the Captain America." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:23:12 · Griffin or David (0.35)] Iron Man ↔ The Incredible Hulk · programming · Both Iron Man's post-credits Fury scene and Tony's Hulk cameo got audiences cheering, building the idea of a shared universe. · "I was so invested in the idea, which seems hilarious now of a cinematic universe." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · Marvel gives each film a different genre; Winter Soldier is the political thriller, Iron Man 3 the noir/buddy film. · "Right. So this is when they're like, Iron Man 3 is sort of like a noir and like a buddy film, Dark World is like high fantasy." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:49:22 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Black Panther looks like the best bet to carry the MCU into the next phase after Infinity War. · "Black Panther certainly looks to be the best bet to carry the series into phase four" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:36:32 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) · programming · The WWII super-soldier line makes theater audiences excited for a Captain America reference, a habit Iron Man 2 repeats. · "Iron Man 2 is the guiltiest of that." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 2:08:10 · David Sims (0.45)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Thor · programming · Cap opened to about 65 million like Thor, finished near 176 worldwide domestic and around 370 vs Thor's 450. · "Cap opens pretty much exactly the same as Thor, 65." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:18:06 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Iron Man 2 · programming · Griffin has a point about Paltrow in Iron Man 2 and promises a separate Iron Man 2 commentary. · "We're going to do an Iron Man 2 commentary so we can talk about the movie I want to talk about there." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:21:21 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 3 ↔ Pain & Gain · programming · Pain & Gain opened the same spring with a big second-week drop; The Rock's performance is called the smartest use of him. · "Smartest anyone has ever used him." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:52:39 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Guardians 3 is certain and Star-Lord is now a primary MCU figure. · "Chris Pratt, obviously, there will be a Guardians 3." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:31:34 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) (the host's read) · programming · The hero jumping out of a hangar plane becomes a recurring Marvel image, starting here and used in Black Panther and Captain America. · "And this is the 1st of what then becomes the Marvel trope where a hero is either pushed out of or jumps out of the back of like a hangar plane." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:50:54 · David Sims (0.50)] Thor ↔ Fast Five · programming · Thor's opening was the Memorial Day-season release, with Fast Five as the number two film in its 2nd weekend. · "Number 2 is one of the best movies of this year." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:48:57 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Thor · programming · The hosts preview the next trio: Thor, Captain America, Avengers; one hates Thor. · "So what our next three is going to be Thor, Captain America, Avengers." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:23:04 · unknown (0.30)] 42 ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · 42 and a run of April 2013 releases are compared in the Box Office Mojo segment. · "That we waited this long for a Jackie Robinson movie and that Brian Helgeland ended up making it such a disappointment." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:57:00 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Avengers: Infinity War ↔ Ant-Man and the Wasp · programming · Whether Ant-Man and the Wasp matters as much as Infinity War is a test of Marvel overexposure. · "At what point does Ant-man and the Wasp not matter as much as Infinity War?" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:51:33 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Consultant ↔ The Incredible Hulk · programming · The short on the Thor Blu-ray explains Tony's cameo as a ploy to sabotage the recruitment of Blonsky. · "They see him as a war hero and blame the devastation of Harlem and Bruce Banner." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 2:07:38 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 2 ↔ Thor · programming · Its post-credit scene is called the weakest, existing only to announce Thor's film, much like the Captain Marvel tag after Infinity War. · "Because essentially it's just like Thor, Thor, will be the star of a new movie." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:01:42 · unknown (Griffin) (0.50)] Iron Man ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Mentions Captain Marvel's upcoming 90s setting and Kamala Khan idolizing her as a possible future movie. · "And then like models herself after Captain Marvel." [speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty' [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license [speaker] David Shoemaker · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · Believes the best wrestling movies are documentaries and cult oddities; loves weird, tonally pure b-movies like Body Slam and Paradise Alley. Dislikes tone-deaf studio efforts like Ready to Rumble. A sucker for wrestling's blur of real and fake. · stances: Documentaries beat fiction for wrestling; The Wrestler is the best wrestling movie; Fiction fails when it treats a fake sport in a fake world; Wrestling history (Gold Dust Trio, Sputnik Monroe) deserves movies [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten) Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with The Avengers (2012); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend The Avengers (2012) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them. Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact. You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here. Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.