What the corpus says about Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
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What was said about it (16)
- [The Big Picture · The Top 10 Fantasy Films, The Toy Movie Hall of Fame, and ‘Masters of the Universe,’ · 1:09:02 · unknown (0.40)] Thor: Ragnarok ⇒ Masters of the Universe (the host's read) · lineage · The movie looks inspired by Ragnarok, which gave executives a template of color, weirdness, and joke tone to copy. · "And it speaks to this movie feels very, um, inspired by Thor Ragnarok to me."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:13:27 · unknown (0.30)] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Iron Man 3 · lineage · Ragnarok relates to The Dark World as Iron Man 3 relates to Iron Man, a hard tonal reset on the prior entry. · "Ragnarok is very much the Iron Man 3 to this movie's Iron Man."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:18:58 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read) · theme · Ben's favorite Marvel movie; Hulk's journey into space follows from here. · "Ragnarok is 100% Ben's favorite Marvel movie."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:39:22 · David Sims (0.40)] Thor ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · craft · The first Thor looks too clean; Ragnarok overcorrects to cartoony comic splash page; the Dark World's polished gold sits between. · "the 1st one is just too clean."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:10:42 · Jason Concepcion (0.40)] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Thor · contrast · Ragnarok is called one of the five best Marvel movies, reached only after two bad Thor films. · "one of the 5 best Marvel movies ever now is the Thor movie that came out 2 weeks ago."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:12:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Thor: The Dark World · contrast · Ragnarok flushes nearly all the mythos out of Thor other than Thor and Loki, which the speakers dislike. · "And they flush almost everything out of the mythos other than Thorn Loke."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:34:56 · David Sims (0.40)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · contrast · The Dark World's palette feels like watercolor fantasy illustration; Ragnarok is full Kirby comic book. · "closer to like watercolor illustrations in a fantasy novel."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:24:14 · unknown (0.30)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · people · Ben's MCU crush pick is guessed as Nebula, and Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie in Ragnarok as his speed. · "Tessa Thompson and Ragnarok is sort of your speed, you know?"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:56:30 · David Sims (0.50)] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Thor: The Dark World · verdict · The speakers feel Ragnarok mocks fans who liked this film and the mythos it embraced. · "feels like Ragnarok is making fun of us for liking this movie."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:17:07 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · industry · Guardians is among Marvel's most beloved and its success, like Ragnarok's, shows the brand outrunning the character's profile. · "I think in some ways that is among their most beloved movies too"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:28:21 · David Sims (0.40)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · what-if · Thor: Ragnarok also loses Sif and Natalie Portman's Jane; the speakers wish Sif had returned for Endgame. · "Maybe she's an endgame."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 1:11:29 · Van Lathan (0.80)] Thor: Ragnarok ⇒ Thor: Love and Thunder (the host's read) · self-parody · Van says Love and Thunder is a spoof of Ragnarok and that Waititi likely knew it. · "is like a spoof of Thor Ragnarok."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:12:02 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Jason Aaron ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read) · lineage · Ragnarok is influenced by Jason Aaron's Thor comics. · "Ragnarok is certainly influenced by the Jason Aaron stuff."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:42 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Chris Hemsworth ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read) · craft · Ragnarok is the correction to Hemsworth proving he's funny in other movies. · "Thor Ragnarok is the correction to Hemsworth proving that he's funny in other movies."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:12:11 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Chris Hemsworth ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read) · career · Ragnarok is Hemsworth, who saw this film as a failure, asking to be allowed to be silly. · "Ragnarok is Hemsworth being like, am I not, can I have some fun, please? and be silly."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:53:40 · unknown (0.30)] Peter Serafinowicz ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · what-if · He could have popped up in Ragnarok easily given its comedic tone, and he reportedly now likes it. · "He could have popped up in Ragnarok like with ease."
Films put beside it more than once (2)
- [pairs] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Thor: The Dark World · said 4 times in 1 episode
- [pairs] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Thor · said 2 times in 2 episodes
Fun items about it (1)
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:17:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Thor: Ragnarok · fun · Waititi said the scariest part was Marvel being 16 for 16. · "they're 16 for 16."
One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (34)
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:00:57 · unknown (0.30)] Benicio del Toro ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Del Toro's Collector first appears in the Dark World post-credits and has been used little since. · "How much is he in dark world?"
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:13:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Avengers ↔ Thor · programming · Thor was treated as a loss leader, a stepping stone to the Avengers. · "Thor was treated as a loss leader, essentially."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 2:08:02 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Transformers: Dark of the Moon · programming · Cap was released July 22 instead of July 4th because Transformers 3 owned that date and nobody would go near it. · "The July 4th movie was Transformers 3."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:17:03 · Jason Concepcion (0.40)] Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Ant-Man (the host's read) · programming · After Guardians' success with unknown characters, Ant-Man was an easy next gamble. · "you do Ant-Man after that because you're just like, yeah, let's do Ant-Man."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · Marvel gives each film a different genre; Winter Soldier is the political thriller, Iron Man 3 the noir/buddy film. · "Right. So this is when they're like, Iron Man 3 is sort of like a noir and like a buddy film, Dark World is like high fantasy."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Dark World is the high-fantasy entry in the same one-genre-per-film scheme. · "Dark World is like high fantasy."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:33:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Justice League ↔ Thor · programming · Justice League must make Cyborg, Aquaman, and the Flash into linchpins the way Thor and Captain America are. · "They have to be the Thor, they have to be the Captain America."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 2:08:10 · David Sims (0.45)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Thor · programming · Cap opened to about 65 million like Thor, finished near 176 worldwide domestic and around 370 vs Thor's 450. · "Cap opens pretty much exactly the same as Thor, 65."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:52:39 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Guardians 3 is certain and Star-Lord is now a primary MCU figure. · "Chris Pratt, obviously, there will be a Guardians 3."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:16:00 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 3 ↔ The Avengers · programming · Phase 2 begins here and Avengers' victory lap gave Feige room to let each film feel individual. · "They're on such a victory lap that it feels like this is the one little chunk of time where Kevin Feige lets go a little bit."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:50:31 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Nutcracker and the Four Realms ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Joking that a 'four realms' film from the director of Captain America should have had nine realms. · "He won't settle for four."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 2:08:10 · David Sims (0.45)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Thor · programming · Cap opened to about 65 million like Thor, finished near 176 worldwide domestic and around 370 vs Thor's 450. · "Cap opens pretty much exactly the same as Thor, 65."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 2:09:10 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 · programming · In the 2011 box-office ranking Cap is number one and Deathly Hallows Part 2 is number two. · "Oh, oh, it's Deathly Hollis part two."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:59:57 · unknown (0.30)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Captain Marvel provides context for the Nova Corps Cree and a not-yet-crazy Ronan, and Jude Law's Yon-Rogg. · "But the idea in Captain Marvel is he's not crazy yet."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:21:21 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 3 ↔ Pain & Gain · programming · Pain & Gain opened the same spring with a big second-week drop; The Rock's performance is called the smartest use of him. · "Smartest anyone has ever used him."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:59:51 · David Sims (0.30)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Guardians of the Galaxy · programming · The Collector mid-credits scene already shows the Guardians' comic space weirdness; the speaker thinks James Gunn directed it. · "I think gun directed this. It's 100% difficult."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:02:12 · Griffin Newman (0.35)] Thor ↔ The Avengers · programming · The Hawkeye cameo, with no interaction, made the speaker doubt the Avengers team-up would work. · "The thing you want to see is how they talk and interact with each other."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:03:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · The film goes back to the Steve Rogers style of origin story. · "here's how Steve Rogers became a super soldier style of storytelling."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 2:13:19 · unknown (0.30)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Howard the Duck · programming · The credits tag with Howard the Duck leads to talk about the comic being better than the Lucas film and Kevin Smith's animated show. · "Not the George Lucas film."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:23:04 · unknown (0.30)] 42 ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · 42 and a run of April 2013 releases are compared in the Box Office Mojo segment. · "That we waited this long for a Jackie Robinson movie and that Brian Helgeland ended up making it such a disappointment."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:17:10 · David Sims (0.40)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ The Lord of the Rings · lineage · The Dark Elf war prologue and design is Lord of the Rings style ancient-story fantasy. · "This is some sort of like Lord of the Rings stuff where it's sort of like, you know, this is an ancient story."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:50:54 · David Sims (0.50)] Thor ↔ Fast Five · programming · Thor's opening was the Memorial Day-season release, with Fast Five as the number two film in its 2nd weekend. · "Number 2 is one of the best movies of this year."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:13:53 · Griffin Newman (0.45)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ The Rocketeer · lineage · Johnston was hired on the strength of The Rocketeer, which shares the period, beautiful-period-vibe sensibility. · "Joe Johnson's the guy who directed the Rockets here."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:59:51 · David Sims (0.30)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Guardians of the Galaxy · programming · The Collector mid-credits scene already shows the Guardians' comic space weirdness; the speaker thinks James Gunn directed it. · "I think gun directed this. It's 100% difficult."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:24:42 · unknown (0.30)] Oblivion ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · Oblivion released the same spring (Cruise sci-fi) and made 70% worldwide. · "Oblivion, a Joseph Konsinski film."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B. · "This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 2:07:38 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 2 ↔ Thor · programming · Its post-credit scene is called the weakest, existing only to announce Thor's film, much like the Captain Marvel tag after Infinity War. · "Because essentially it's just like Thor, Thor, will be the star of a new movie."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:19:47 · David Sims (0.40)] Iron Man 2 ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read) · lineage · The Stark Expo of the 1940s is the origin of the Expo seen in Iron Man 2, now as the full World's Fair version. · "Like what we see in Iron Man 2, but now it's like the full like 40s World Fair version."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read) · programming · Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list. · "We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read) · lineage · Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens. · "Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone. · "And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:48:57 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Thor · programming · The hosts preview the next trio: Thor, Captain America, Avengers; one hates Thor. · "So what our next three is going to be Thor, Captain America, Avengers."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:47:45 · David Sims (0.50)] Truth: Red, White & Black (comic) ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read) · lineage · The one-off serum process loosely connects to the Truth miniseries retcon about earlier black experimentees. · "Truth is a book that essentially theorizes that there was like a Tuskegee airman."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:43:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · As a prequel, Captain Marvel brings back Guardians characters Ronan (Lee Pace) and Korath (Djimon Hounsou). · "this is, of course, a prequel, so their characters appear in this film again."
Who said it, by their latest sketch (6)
- [speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
- [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
- [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
- [speaker] David Shoemaker · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · Believes the best wrestling movies are documentaries and cult oddities; loves weird, tonally pure b-movies like Body Slam and Paradise Alley. Dislikes tone-deaf studio efforts like Ready to Rumble. A sucker for wrestling's blur of real and fake. · stances: Documentaries beat fiction for wrestling; The Wrestler is the best wrestling movie; Fiction fails when it treats a fake sport in a fake world; Wrestling history (Gold Dust Trio, Sputnik Monroe) deserves movies
- [speaker] Jason Concepcion · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Did Disney’s ‘Mulan’ Experiment Work? A Binge Mode Investigation · Loves a musical, Donnie Yen action, and the 1998 Mulan with its Eddie Murphy humor. Finds the remake kind of boring and wants a grounded, historical version. Sucker for political and economic framing of film controversy. · stances: The remake is fine in a vacuum, a disappointment as a Mulan; Wants a more historical, less magical take; Sees the Mulan controversy as a symptom of the West-China economic experiment; Missing music means missing storytelling
- [speaker] Van Lathan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Enjoys the series for its sleaze, hang value and cheesy lines. Roots for Black-cast-free sendups and loves a flex category. Gravitates to Freddy and likes Kevin Bacon. · stances: Friday the 13th is a movie that did not need Black people; Rewards bad-hang awards and flex lists
The shows' running bits (1)
- [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
The whole prompt
As the model gets it, from app/Ai/Prompts/CorpusAsk.md
You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished Thor: Ragnarok (2017) and wants to know what to watch next. Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about Thor: Ragnarok (2017) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion. [The Big Picture · The Top 10 Fantasy Films, The Toy Movie Hall of Fame, and ‘Masters of the Universe,’ · 1:09:02 · unknown (0.40)] Thor: Ragnarok ⇒ Masters of the Universe (the host's read) · lineage · The movie looks inspired by Ragnarok, which gave executives a template of color, weirdness, and joke tone to copy. · "And it speaks to this movie feels very, um, inspired by Thor Ragnarok to me." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:13:27 · unknown (0.30)] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Iron Man 3 · lineage · Ragnarok relates to The Dark World as Iron Man 3 relates to Iron Man, a hard tonal reset on the prior entry. · "Ragnarok is very much the Iron Man 3 to this movie's Iron Man." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:18:58 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read) · theme · Ben's favorite Marvel movie; Hulk's journey into space follows from here. · "Ragnarok is 100% Ben's favorite Marvel movie." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:39:22 · David Sims (0.40)] Thor ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · craft · The first Thor looks too clean; Ragnarok overcorrects to cartoony comic splash page; the Dark World's polished gold sits between. · "the 1st one is just too clean." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:10:42 · Jason Concepcion (0.40)] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Thor · contrast · Ragnarok is called one of the five best Marvel movies, reached only after two bad Thor films. · "one of the 5 best Marvel movies ever now is the Thor movie that came out 2 weeks ago." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:12:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Thor: The Dark World · contrast · Ragnarok flushes nearly all the mythos out of Thor other than Thor and Loki, which the speakers dislike. · "And they flush almost everything out of the mythos other than Thorn Loke." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:34:56 · David Sims (0.40)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · contrast · The Dark World's palette feels like watercolor fantasy illustration; Ragnarok is full Kirby comic book. · "closer to like watercolor illustrations in a fantasy novel." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:24:14 · unknown (0.30)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · people · Ben's MCU crush pick is guessed as Nebula, and Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie in Ragnarok as his speed. · "Tessa Thompson and Ragnarok is sort of your speed, you know?" [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:56:30 · David Sims (0.50)] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Thor: The Dark World · verdict · The speakers feel Ragnarok mocks fans who liked this film and the mythos it embraced. · "feels like Ragnarok is making fun of us for liking this movie." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:17:07 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · industry · Guardians is among Marvel's most beloved and its success, like Ragnarok's, shows the brand outrunning the character's profile. · "I think in some ways that is among their most beloved movies too" [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:28:21 · David Sims (0.40)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · what-if · Thor: Ragnarok also loses Sif and Natalie Portman's Jane; the speakers wish Sif had returned for Endgame. · "Maybe she's an endgame." [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 1:11:29 · Van Lathan (0.80)] Thor: Ragnarok ⇒ Thor: Love and Thunder (the host's read) · self-parody · Van says Love and Thunder is a spoof of Ragnarok and that Waititi likely knew it. · "is like a spoof of Thor Ragnarok." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:12:02 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Jason Aaron ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read) · lineage · Ragnarok is influenced by Jason Aaron's Thor comics. · "Ragnarok is certainly influenced by the Jason Aaron stuff." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:42 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Chris Hemsworth ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read) · craft · Ragnarok is the correction to Hemsworth proving he's funny in other movies. · "Thor Ragnarok is the correction to Hemsworth proving that he's funny in other movies." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:12:11 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Chris Hemsworth ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read) · career · Ragnarok is Hemsworth, who saw this film as a failure, asking to be allowed to be silly. · "Ragnarok is Hemsworth being like, am I not, can I have some fun, please? and be silly." [Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:53:40 · unknown (0.30)] Peter Serafinowicz ↔ Thor: Ragnarok · what-if · He could have popped up in Ragnarok easily given its comedic tone, and he reportedly now likes it. · "He could have popped up in Ragnarok like with ease." [pairs] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Thor: The Dark World · said 4 times in 1 episode [pairs] Thor: Ragnarok ↔ Thor · said 2 times in 2 episodes [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:17:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Thor: Ragnarok · fun · Waititi said the scariest part was Marvel being 16 for 16. · "they're 16 for 16." [Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:00:57 · unknown (0.30)] Benicio del Toro ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Del Toro's Collector first appears in the Dark World post-credits and has been used little since. · "How much is he in dark world?" [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:13:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Avengers ↔ Thor · programming · Thor was treated as a loss leader, a stepping stone to the Avengers. · "Thor was treated as a loss leader, essentially." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 2:08:02 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Transformers: Dark of the Moon · programming · Cap was released July 22 instead of July 4th because Transformers 3 owned that date and nobody would go near it. · "The July 4th movie was Transformers 3." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:17:03 · Jason Concepcion (0.40)] Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Ant-Man (the host's read) · programming · After Guardians' success with unknown characters, Ant-Man was an easy next gamble. · "you do Ant-Man after that because you're just like, yeah, let's do Ant-Man." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · Marvel gives each film a different genre; Winter Soldier is the political thriller, Iron Man 3 the noir/buddy film. · "Right. So this is when they're like, Iron Man 3 is sort of like a noir and like a buddy film, Dark World is like high fantasy." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Dark World is the high-fantasy entry in the same one-genre-per-film scheme. · "Dark World is like high fantasy." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:33:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Justice League ↔ Thor · programming · Justice League must make Cyborg, Aquaman, and the Flash into linchpins the way Thor and Captain America are. · "They have to be the Thor, they have to be the Captain America." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 2:08:10 · David Sims (0.45)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Thor · programming · Cap opened to about 65 million like Thor, finished near 176 worldwide domestic and around 370 vs Thor's 450. · "Cap opens pretty much exactly the same as Thor, 65." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:52:39 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Guardians 3 is certain and Star-Lord is now a primary MCU figure. · "Chris Pratt, obviously, there will be a Guardians 3." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:16:00 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 3 ↔ The Avengers · programming · Phase 2 begins here and Avengers' victory lap gave Feige room to let each film feel individual. · "They're on such a victory lap that it feels like this is the one little chunk of time where Kevin Feige lets go a little bit." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:50:31 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Nutcracker and the Four Realms ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Joking that a 'four realms' film from the director of Captain America should have had nine realms. · "He won't settle for four." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 2:08:10 · David Sims (0.45)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Thor · programming · Cap opened to about 65 million like Thor, finished near 176 worldwide domestic and around 370 vs Thor's 450. · "Cap opens pretty much exactly the same as Thor, 65." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 2:09:10 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 · programming · In the 2011 box-office ranking Cap is number one and Deathly Hallows Part 2 is number two. · "Oh, oh, it's Deathly Hollis part two." [Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:59:57 · unknown (0.30)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Captain Marvel provides context for the Nova Corps Cree and a not-yet-crazy Ronan, and Jude Law's Yon-Rogg. · "But the idea in Captain Marvel is he's not crazy yet." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:21:21 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 3 ↔ Pain & Gain · programming · Pain & Gain opened the same spring with a big second-week drop; The Rock's performance is called the smartest use of him. · "Smartest anyone has ever used him." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:59:51 · David Sims (0.30)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Guardians of the Galaxy · programming · The Collector mid-credits scene already shows the Guardians' comic space weirdness; the speaker thinks James Gunn directed it. · "I think gun directed this. It's 100% difficult." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:02:12 · Griffin Newman (0.35)] Thor ↔ The Avengers · programming · The Hawkeye cameo, with no interaction, made the speaker doubt the Avengers team-up would work. · "The thing you want to see is how they talk and interact with each other." [The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:03:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · The film goes back to the Steve Rogers style of origin story. · "here's how Steve Rogers became a super soldier style of storytelling." [Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 2:13:19 · unknown (0.30)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Howard the Duck · programming · The credits tag with Howard the Duck leads to talk about the comic being better than the Lucas film and Kevin Smith's animated show. · "Not the George Lucas film." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:23:04 · unknown (0.30)] 42 ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · 42 and a run of April 2013 releases are compared in the Box Office Mojo segment. · "That we waited this long for a Jackie Robinson movie and that Brian Helgeland ended up making it such a disappointment." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:17:10 · David Sims (0.40)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ The Lord of the Rings · lineage · The Dark Elf war prologue and design is Lord of the Rings style ancient-story fantasy. · "This is some sort of like Lord of the Rings stuff where it's sort of like, you know, this is an ancient story." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:50:54 · David Sims (0.50)] Thor ↔ Fast Five · programming · Thor's opening was the Memorial Day-season release, with Fast Five as the number two film in its 2nd weekend. · "Number 2 is one of the best movies of this year." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:13:53 · Griffin Newman (0.45)] Captain America: The First Avenger ↔ The Rocketeer · lineage · Johnston was hired on the strength of The Rocketeer, which shares the period, beautiful-period-vibe sensibility. · "Joe Johnson's the guy who directed the Rockets here." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:59:51 · David Sims (0.30)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Guardians of the Galaxy · programming · The Collector mid-credits scene already shows the Guardians' comic space weirdness; the speaker thinks James Gunn directed it. · "I think gun directed this. It's 100% difficult." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:24:42 · unknown (0.30)] Oblivion ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · Oblivion released the same spring (Cruise sci-fi) and made 70% worldwide. · "Oblivion, a Joseph Konsinski film." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B. · "This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 2:07:38 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 2 ↔ Thor · programming · Its post-credit scene is called the weakest, existing only to announce Thor's film, much like the Captain Marvel tag after Infinity War. · "Because essentially it's just like Thor, Thor, will be the star of a new movie." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:19:47 · David Sims (0.40)] Iron Man 2 ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read) · lineage · The Stark Expo of the 1940s is the origin of the Expo seen in Iron Man 2, now as the full World's Fair version. · "Like what we see in Iron Man 2, but now it's like the full like 40s World Fair version." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read) · programming · Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list. · "We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30)] The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read) · lineage · Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens. · "Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone. · "And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:48:57 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Thor · programming · The hosts preview the next trio: Thor, Captain America, Avengers; one hates Thor. · "So what our next three is going to be Thor, Captain America, Avengers." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:47:45 · David Sims (0.50)] Truth: Red, White & Black (comic) ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read) · lineage · The one-off serum process loosely connects to the Truth miniseries retcon about earlier black experimentees. · "Truth is a book that essentially theorizes that there was like a Tuskegee airman." [The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:43:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · As a prequel, Captain Marvel brings back Guardians characters Ronan (Lee Pace) and Korath (Djimon Hounsou). · "this is, of course, a prequel, so their characters appear in this film again." [speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty' [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license [speaker] David Shoemaker · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · Believes the best wrestling movies are documentaries and cult oddities; loves weird, tonally pure b-movies like Body Slam and Paradise Alley. Dislikes tone-deaf studio efforts like Ready to Rumble. A sucker for wrestling's blur of real and fake. · stances: Documentaries beat fiction for wrestling; The Wrestler is the best wrestling movie; Fiction fails when it treats a fake sport in a fake world; Wrestling history (Gold Dust Trio, Sputnik Monroe) deserves movies [speaker] Jason Concepcion · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Did Disney’s ‘Mulan’ Experiment Work? A Binge Mode Investigation · Loves a musical, Donnie Yen action, and the 1998 Mulan with its Eddie Murphy humor. Finds the remake kind of boring and wants a grounded, historical version. Sucker for political and economic framing of film controversy. · stances: The remake is fine in a vacuum, a disappointment as a Mulan; Wants a more historical, less magical take; Sees the Mulan controversy as a symptom of the West-China economic experiment; Missing music means missing storytelling [speaker] Van Lathan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Enjoys the series for its sleaze, hang value and cheesy lines. Roots for Black-cast-free sendups and loves a flex category. Gravitates to Freddy and likes Kevin Bacon. · stances: Friday the 13th is a movie that did not need Black people; Rewards bad-hang awards and flex lists [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten) Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with Thor: Ragnarok (2017); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend Thor: Ragnarok (2017) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them. Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact. You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here. Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.