What the corpus says about Troy (2004)

You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished Troy (2004) and wants to know what to watch next.

Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about Troy (2004) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.

[The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:26:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.75)] Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↔ Troy · mythology · Sean pairs Troy with Clash of the Titans as myth-based movies that ask for the same suspension of disbelief. · "you might watch Clash of the Titans or Troy, you know?"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus · 2:06:43 · unknown (0.40)] Gladiator ⇒ Troy (the host's read) · followed · Troy coasts off the goodwill from Gladiator. · "Troy is the one that coasts off of the Goodwill from Gladiator"
[The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate · 1:37:26 · unknown (0.40)] Avatar: The Way of Water ↔ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever · programming · Both sequels arrive within a month of each other. · "Now, both getting sequels within a month of each other."
[The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 0:06:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Gladiator ⇒ Gladiator II (the host's read) · lineage · The sequel is very similar in structure and story to the original. · "it's pretty well known that this movie is very similar in structure and story to the original."
[The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:17:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↔ Black Panther · lineage · The first film's theme was isolation versus justice (Killmonger vs. T'Challa); the sequel has a real-world theme too, about allyship between Latinx and Black communities, but is not done as well. · "his movies always have a big dynamic real world theme in them in a way that I don't think many Marvel movies do."
[The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 0:15:52 · Mallory Rubin (0.60)] Gladiator ⇒ Gladiator II (the host's read) · lineage · The sequel's plot, structure, approach and pacing mirror the first, forcing a one-to-one comparison. · "it's just the movie is so similar to the 1st one in terms of plot, structure, approach, focus, pacing."
[The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:32:14 · Van Lathan (0.85)] Black Panther ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read) · theme · Van explains that in the first film T'Challa saw his father on the ancestral plane because he had questions for him, while Shuri saw Killmonger because she wanted revenge, the same motive Killmonger had. · "Shuri did not want to be the Black Panther to protect Wakanda."
[The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 0:21:39 · Mallory Rubin (0.50)] Gladiator ⇒ Gladiator II (the host's read) · lineage · Because it mirrors the first film, outcomes for characters become predictable by inversion. · "I almost felt like it became impossible not to know what was going to happen to certain people"
[The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:37:09 · Van Lathan (0.85)] Captain America: Civil War ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read) · theme · Van says Black Panther was handled better in Civil War than in his own movie, and that Civil War served as his origin; Ironheart's introduction here does not land the same way. · "Black Panther, to me, was portrayed better in Civil War than he was in the original Black Panther movie."
[The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 0:52:34 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] Gladiator ⇒ Gladiator II (the host's read) · lineage · Lucius's hand in the grain is a callback to Maximus's hand in the wheat. · "And it's an obvious callback to Maximus walking through the kind of afterlife feeling the wheat."
[The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:37:22 · Van Lathan (0.80)] Iron Man 2 ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read) · theme · Van says the MCU has introduced characters inside other movies before, like Black Widow in Iron Man 2. · "Black Widow makes her a parent, her 1st appearance."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus · 1:03:34 · Richard Lawson (0.60)] Spartacus ⇒ Gladiator (the host's read) · lineage · Richard, seeing Spartacus for the first time, says it is the main thing Gladiator riffs on. · "this is really the main thing the gladiators are riffing on."
[The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:38:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↔ Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness · theme · Sean sees Riri Williams as the second recent puckish teen hero, after America Chavez, whom the audience has no prior relationship with. · "we just had this with America Chavez in Doctor Strange in the multiverse of Madness."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus · 1:13:26 · unknown (0.40)] Woody Strode → Gladiator · theme · Speaker imagines Ridley Scott deciding to keep the Draba-type character alive the whole movie. · "Ridley Scott was like, what if we keep him alive the whole movie?"
[The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:53:03 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80)] Ruth E. Carter ↔ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever · craft · Amanda says Carter's costume design and the production design are the electrifying part, even though she did not like the film, and that Carter should win another Oscar. · "I think Ruth Carter should win another Oscar, even though I didn't really like this movie."
[Blank Check · As Good as It Gets · 1:05:43 · Chris Gethard (0.60)] Joaquin Phoenix ↔ Gladiator · craft · Chris likes Phoenix's Gladiator performance. · "I'll say, I really appreciated his performance in Gladiator."
[The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:53:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↔ Black Panther · craft · The first film lived in one coherent Wakanda look from Ruth Carter's costumes and the production design, while the sequel hops between many places and loses a single visual style. · "In this movie, we're in so many places, that ship at night, Riri's dorm room, Talakan, Everett Ross's jogging trip, his kitchen, the movie's just all over the place."
[The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 0:06:38 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Gladiator II ↔ Gladiator · craft · Gladiator II brings back the original film's cinematographer, John Mathieson, as part of a returning crew. · "The cinematographer, John Matheson, is back."
[speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
[bits] Blank Check: The box office game (Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against); The sung theme ("Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it)

Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with Troy (2004); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend Troy (2004) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.

Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.

You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.

Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.