What the corpus says about Zodiac (2007)

The 60 lines php artisan corpus:ask hands a model, in the order it gets them, and nothing else. The model writes a clerk's answer from these and only these.

What was said about it (26)

[The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 1:20:45 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] Zodiac ↔ Almost Famous · programming · AI cut-your-own-runtime fantasy: trim Zodiac to 97 minutes; instead Bill watched the bootleg Almost Famous with 35 extra minutes. · "we watch the bootleg cut the 2nd time, which has like 35 minutes of additional scenes."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:50:16 · Leslye Headland (0.80)] L.A. Confidential ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read) · lineage · Leslye says Zodiac feels like it follows in the footsteps of L.A. Confidential. · "zodiac feels like it follows in the footsteps of that."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:04:09 · Leslye Headland (0.90)] Zodiac ↔ The Shining · theme · Both are on Leslye's four-film Mount Rushmore. · "It's Zodiac, the Shining, back to the future, the apartment."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:04:09 · Leslye Headland (0.90)] Zodiac ↔ Back to the Future · theme · Both are on Leslye's four-film Mount Rushmore. · "It's Zodiac, the Shining, back to the future, the apartment."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:04:09 · Leslye Headland (0.90)] Zodiac ↔ The Apartment · theme · Both are on Leslye's four-film Mount Rushmore. · "It's Zodiac, the Shining, back to the future, the apartment."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:56:14 · unknown (0.30)] L.A. Confidential ↔ Zodiac · theme · The vanishing Avery is likened to the Kevin Spacey character in L.A. Confidential. · "Like, like the Kevin Spacey character."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:18:38 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] Seven ↔ Zodiac · craft · Both have a patient first hour of procedural foreplay where you pick up new details on each rewatch. · "isn't isn't that why we all like zodiac for the, like a lot of that 1st hour is the same thing where it's all foreplay"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:58:07 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Seven ↔ Zodiac · craft · Zodiac similarly does not show most of its murders. · "It's very similar to zodiac in that way, too."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:17:09 · Leslye Headland (0.40)] Zodiac ↔ There Will Be Blood · craft · Zodiac, There Will Be Blood and No Country shared a nihilistic mood in 2007. · "There's something in the air that year."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:17:16 · Leslye Headland (0.40)] Zodiac ↔ No Country for Old Men · craft · Zodiac, There Will Be Blood and No Country shared a nihilistic mood in 2007. · "But even like just these nihilistic endings where you're like, you know, there's just there's no hope."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:32:02 · Leslye Headland (0.80)] The Shining ↔ Zodiac · craft · Zodiac's episodic, not-three-act feel is likened to The Shining's labyrinth. · "it's not a slave to the 3 act structure, it's interstitial, it's got this sort of episodic feel to it and not unlike the shining."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:49:11 · Leslye Headland (0.80)] L.A. Confidential ↔ Zodiac · craft · The script reminds Leslye of L.A. Confidential: methodical, restarts mid-film, scenes handing off to the next. · "It's absolutely, like, the script reminds me so much of LA confidential."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:09:57 · unknown (0.40)] Miami Vice ↔ Zodiac · craft · Both used the Thomson Viper digital camera. · "man, use that on Miami Vice as well."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:14:21 · unknown (0.40)] Panic Room ↔ Zodiac · craft · The opening dolly shot is the Panic Room kind of thing: a camera moving with a mind of its own. · "it is that panic room kind of thing as well, of just like the camera kind of perfectly moving"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:43:07 · unknown (0.40)] The Wire ↔ Zodiac · craft · Zodiac's boring, methodical procedure is why The Wire felt revolutionary around the same time. · "this is why the wire had felt so revolutionary, which is around the same time"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:51:16 · unknown (0.30)] The Silence of the Lambs ↔ Zodiac · craft · Belli looks straight into camera, called the Lambs cam. · "the lambs cam."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 2:14:21 · unknown (0.40)] The Conversation ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read) · craft · The Conversation's score was used as temp music while Zodiac was cut, then Shire scored it. · "they use the conversation score as temp score."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:22:10 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Zodiac ↔ Panic Room · contrast · Zodiac is deep (obsession, meaning through someone else's experience) where Panic Room is a well-made B movie. · "It's one of those things where like zodiac is deep."
[The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:13:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] The Social Network ↔ Zodiac · contrast · Social Network was one host's top Fincher film; the Fincher podcast chose Zodiac as the purest Fincher. · "Zodiac is like the Fincheryist."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:31:54 · unknown (0.40)] Seven ↔ Zodiac · contrast · Zodiac is called the anti-Seven: killers made dorky, not glamorous. · "It is it is really the anti-seven."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en · 2:16:36 · Nick Wiger (0.60)] Seven ↔ Zodiac · contrast · The speaker prefers Zodiac's derivative, dumb real killer to Se7en's super-villain John Doe. · "What I like about Zodiac is that it shows serial killers as we know them to actual actually be"
[Blank Check · Judging The Judge · 0:20:21 · David Sims (0.50)] Kiss Kiss Bang Bang ↔ Zodiac · career · Roles like Good Night and Good Luck, A Scanner Darkly and Zodiac cast Downey as weathered men clinging on. · "these roles of slightly weathered guys who, like, are kind of clinging on a little bit, you know, like rather than sort of breezing through things."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:22:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Panic Room ↔ Zodiac · career · Five years between Panic Room and Zodiac; the effect on Fincher shows in how he tells stories afterward. · "5 years went by between panic room and zodiac."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:22:44 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Donnie Darko ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read) · people · Fincher liked Donnie Darko and had Gyllenhaal pegged for a while. · "unsurprisingly, Fincher liked Donny Darko"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:24:06 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Collateral ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read) · people · Fincher cast Ruffalo partly because he liked him in Collateral. · "One, Fincher really liked him in collateral."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:25:09 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Rumor Has It ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read) · people · Jennifer Aniston, on Rumor Has It with Ruffalo, helped him get the role. · "So rumor has it kind of helps him get this."

Films put beside it more than once (5)

[pairs] Zodiac ↔ Seven · said 6 times in 3 episodes
[pairs] Zodiac ↔ The Social Network · said 4 times in 3 episodes
[pairs] Zodiac ↔ L.A. Confidential · said 4 times in 1 episode
[pairs] Zodiac ↔ Panic Room · said 3 times in 2 episodes
[pairs] Zodiac ↔ The Shining · said 3 times in 2 episodes

Fun items about it (6)

[The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 1:26:53 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50)] Zodiac · fun · A listener wants an AI to cut Zodiac to 97 minutes; Craig is 'the new Claude' trimming an hour out of Zodiac. · "I'm trying to trim an hour out of zodiac right now."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:15:50 · unknown (0.40)] Zodiac · fun · The era's meme: Norbit got one Oscar nomination (makeup), Zodiac got none. · "Norbit one Oscar Nam Zodiac Zero."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:18:38 · David Sims (0.40)] Zodiac · fun · Zodiac was released at Cannes two months after it bombed, to Fincher's confusion. · "They put it at Cann, 2 months as Griffin is saying, after it had bombed, even to Fincher's confusion."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:53:34 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Zodiac · fun · Graysmith claimed the killer could mount a flashlight on his gun; Fincher went to a flashlight museum, learned no 1969 bulb could do it, and so the film shows no such beam. · "And Fincher went to a flashlight museum."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:14:21 · Leslye Headland (0.50)] Zodiac · fun · The opening dolly shot needed a huge run of dolly track; Leslye says she'd be laughed out of the room pitching it. · "40 yards of fucking dolly track"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:34:10 · Leslye Headland (0.50)] Zodiac · fun · Zodiac's blood is digital, and Leslye says it looks better than almost any digital blood she has seen. · "the fact that the blood is digital."

One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (14)

[The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:17:05 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Seven ↔ The Shawshank Redemption · programming · Both are movies you get sucked into on cable by the last 40 minutes. · "The same thing with Shawshank."
[The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 1:31:24 · unknown (0.40)] L.A. Confidential ↔ The Nice Guys · programming · CR month ends with To Live and Die in L.A., Nice Guys, and L.A. Confidential, the first four-person Rewatchable. · "Our 1st 4 person we watchable."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:40:17 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Panic Room ↔ The Social Network · programming · Fincher movies are rewatchable and date-movie friendly, with the exception of Se7en; Social Network is the perfect date movie. · "Like social network, perfect date movie."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:29:37 · Bill Simmons (0.55)] Panic Room ↔ Bird Box · programming · Home-invasion and people-in-peril movies are what Netflix feeds viewers; Panic Room is the well-done version. · "But I think this is the really well-done version of it."
[The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:31:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] The Shining ⇒ Doctor Sleep (the host's read) · lineage · Doctor Sleep uses grown-up Danny and a new generation, Abra Stone. · "Using a familiar figure from the original film in Danny, the grown up Danny"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:04:37 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Seven ↔ Heat · lineage · Grouped with Usual Suspects, Heat and Casino as the four defining 1995 movies, three of which were shut out at the Oscars. · "Our usual suspects, which we recently did, Heat Casino in seven."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Internal Affairs’ · 0:44:46 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Internal Affairs ↔ L.A. Confidential · theme · L.A. Confidential is the other prominent L.A. dirty-cop movie that the speakers had left out. · "LA Confidential?"
[The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:56:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] The Social Network ⇒ Steve Jobs (the host's read) · lineage · Steve Jobs is called a worthy sequel to The Social Network on big tech and innovation. · "I think this is in many ways a worthy sequel to the social network"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:40:17 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Panic Room ↔ The Social Network · programming · Fincher movies are rewatchable and date-movie friendly, with the exception of Se7en; Social Network is the perfect date movie. · "Like social network, perfect date movie."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 0:03:31 · David Sims (0.90)] Stephen King ↔ The Shining · lineage · The film is a Kubrick film King hated, which sits under the whole project. · "trying to do the thing Stephen King hated"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:14:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Alfred Hitchcock ⇒ Seven (the host's read) · lineage · Se7en is a Hitchcock movie in its pulling-your-chain structure of mystery, reveal and anxiety, and Hitchcock is Fincher's biggest influence. · "I think as much as this seems like a modern movie, it's also just completely a Hitchcock movie in so many ways."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Internal Affairs’ · 0:44:49 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] L.A. Confidential ↔ Internal Affairs · craft · Both open with a dirty cop who executes a man and plants a gun on him with no consequences. · "So like even in like confidential when Russell Crowe just walks in and executes that guy."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network · 0:11:24 · David Sims (0.50)] The Social Network ↔ Blackberry · lineage · Blackberry is named as the only movie to come close to The Social Network in the 13 years since. · "I think Blackberry is the only thing that has come close and then now 13 years since this movie came out."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 1:33:06 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] Panic Room ↔ Succession · programming · As a ten-episode Netflix show, Junior would be Roman from Succession. · "but it's just that, um, Junior is Roman from Succession."

Who said it, by their latest sketch (6)

[speaker] Leslye Headland · latest sketch, Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · Loves Zodiac as part of a Mount Rushmore (Zodiac, The Shining, Back to the Future, The Apartment) and watched it daily at a low point in her life. Adores blocking and staging as the true mark of the greats, loves Fincher's digital photography, and sees Fight Club as an evergreen Strangelove-style satire. Also a fan of L.A. Confidential as a nook-and-cranny movie. · stances: Zodiac is a masterpiece and a movie to live inside; Fincher's real genius is blocking and staging, not flash; Fight Club is a durable satire; Digital can look gorgeous
[speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
[speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
[speaker] Bill Simmons · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Loves the Friday series as a communal, rental-era memory and tells childhood stories about the ads and theaters. Likes casting what-ifs and sports analogies for everything. Skeptical of horror at Christmas and of anything that wastes the premise. · stances: Friday the 13th is not the best entry but the origin story had to be told; Friday 2 is a leap over the original
[speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
[speaker] Craig Horlbeck · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · First-time viewer of the series; expected Jason and was thrown by Mrs. Voorhees. Rates the film a 4 or 5 and singled out the canoe ending as the best scene. Prefers the Chain Saw's intensity. · stances: Rug-pulled by the killer-mom reveal; The ending saves the movie

The shows' running bits (3)

[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
[bits] Blank Check: The box office game (Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against); The sung theme ("Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it)
[bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)

The whole prompt

As the model gets it, from app/Ai/Prompts/CorpusAsk.md

You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished Zodiac (2007) and wants to know what to watch next.

Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about Zodiac (2007) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.

[The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 1:20:45 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] Zodiac ↔ Almost Famous · programming · AI cut-your-own-runtime fantasy: trim Zodiac to 97 minutes; instead Bill watched the bootleg Almost Famous with 35 extra minutes. · "we watch the bootleg cut the 2nd time, which has like 35 minutes of additional scenes."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:50:16 · Leslye Headland (0.80)] L.A. Confidential ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read) · lineage · Leslye says Zodiac feels like it follows in the footsteps of L.A. Confidential. · "zodiac feels like it follows in the footsteps of that."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:04:09 · Leslye Headland (0.90)] Zodiac ↔ The Shining · theme · Both are on Leslye's four-film Mount Rushmore. · "It's Zodiac, the Shining, back to the future, the apartment."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:04:09 · Leslye Headland (0.90)] Zodiac ↔ Back to the Future · theme · Both are on Leslye's four-film Mount Rushmore. · "It's Zodiac, the Shining, back to the future, the apartment."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:04:09 · Leslye Headland (0.90)] Zodiac ↔ The Apartment · theme · Both are on Leslye's four-film Mount Rushmore. · "It's Zodiac, the Shining, back to the future, the apartment."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:56:14 · unknown (0.30)] L.A. Confidential ↔ Zodiac · theme · The vanishing Avery is likened to the Kevin Spacey character in L.A. Confidential. · "Like, like the Kevin Spacey character."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:18:38 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] Seven ↔ Zodiac · craft · Both have a patient first hour of procedural foreplay where you pick up new details on each rewatch. · "isn't isn't that why we all like zodiac for the, like a lot of that 1st hour is the same thing where it's all foreplay"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:58:07 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Seven ↔ Zodiac · craft · Zodiac similarly does not show most of its murders. · "It's very similar to zodiac in that way, too."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:17:09 · Leslye Headland (0.40)] Zodiac ↔ There Will Be Blood · craft · Zodiac, There Will Be Blood and No Country shared a nihilistic mood in 2007. · "There's something in the air that year."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:17:16 · Leslye Headland (0.40)] Zodiac ↔ No Country for Old Men · craft · Zodiac, There Will Be Blood and No Country shared a nihilistic mood in 2007. · "But even like just these nihilistic endings where you're like, you know, there's just there's no hope."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:32:02 · Leslye Headland (0.80)] The Shining ↔ Zodiac · craft · Zodiac's episodic, not-three-act feel is likened to The Shining's labyrinth. · "it's not a slave to the 3 act structure, it's interstitial, it's got this sort of episodic feel to it and not unlike the shining."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:49:11 · Leslye Headland (0.80)] L.A. Confidential ↔ Zodiac · craft · The script reminds Leslye of L.A. Confidential: methodical, restarts mid-film, scenes handing off to the next. · "It's absolutely, like, the script reminds me so much of LA confidential."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:09:57 · unknown (0.40)] Miami Vice ↔ Zodiac · craft · Both used the Thomson Viper digital camera. · "man, use that on Miami Vice as well."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:14:21 · unknown (0.40)] Panic Room ↔ Zodiac · craft · The opening dolly shot is the Panic Room kind of thing: a camera moving with a mind of its own. · "it is that panic room kind of thing as well, of just like the camera kind of perfectly moving"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:43:07 · unknown (0.40)] The Wire ↔ Zodiac · craft · Zodiac's boring, methodical procedure is why The Wire felt revolutionary around the same time. · "this is why the wire had felt so revolutionary, which is around the same time"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:51:16 · unknown (0.30)] The Silence of the Lambs ↔ Zodiac · craft · Belli looks straight into camera, called the Lambs cam. · "the lambs cam."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 2:14:21 · unknown (0.40)] The Conversation ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read) · craft · The Conversation's score was used as temp music while Zodiac was cut, then Shire scored it. · "they use the conversation score as temp score."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:22:10 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Zodiac ↔ Panic Room · contrast · Zodiac is deep (obsession, meaning through someone else's experience) where Panic Room is a well-made B movie. · "It's one of those things where like zodiac is deep."
[The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:13:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] The Social Network ↔ Zodiac · contrast · Social Network was one host's top Fincher film; the Fincher podcast chose Zodiac as the purest Fincher. · "Zodiac is like the Fincheryist."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:31:54 · unknown (0.40)] Seven ↔ Zodiac · contrast · Zodiac is called the anti-Seven: killers made dorky, not glamorous. · "It is it is really the anti-seven."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en · 2:16:36 · Nick Wiger (0.60)] Seven ↔ Zodiac · contrast · The speaker prefers Zodiac's derivative, dumb real killer to Se7en's super-villain John Doe. · "What I like about Zodiac is that it shows serial killers as we know them to actual actually be"
[Blank Check · Judging The Judge · 0:20:21 · David Sims (0.50)] Kiss Kiss Bang Bang ↔ Zodiac · career · Roles like Good Night and Good Luck, A Scanner Darkly and Zodiac cast Downey as weathered men clinging on. · "these roles of slightly weathered guys who, like, are kind of clinging on a little bit, you know, like rather than sort of breezing through things."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:22:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Panic Room ↔ Zodiac · career · Five years between Panic Room and Zodiac; the effect on Fincher shows in how he tells stories afterward. · "5 years went by between panic room and zodiac."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:22:44 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Donnie Darko ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read) · people · Fincher liked Donnie Darko and had Gyllenhaal pegged for a while. · "unsurprisingly, Fincher liked Donny Darko"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:24:06 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Collateral ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read) · people · Fincher cast Ruffalo partly because he liked him in Collateral. · "One, Fincher really liked him in collateral."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:25:09 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Rumor Has It ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read) · people · Jennifer Aniston, on Rumor Has It with Ruffalo, helped him get the role. · "So rumor has it kind of helps him get this."
[pairs] Zodiac ↔ Seven · said 6 times in 3 episodes
[pairs] Zodiac ↔ The Social Network · said 4 times in 3 episodes
[pairs] Zodiac ↔ L.A. Confidential · said 4 times in 1 episode
[pairs] Zodiac ↔ Panic Room · said 3 times in 2 episodes
[pairs] Zodiac ↔ The Shining · said 3 times in 2 episodes
[The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 1:26:53 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50)] Zodiac · fun · A listener wants an AI to cut Zodiac to 97 minutes; Craig is 'the new Claude' trimming an hour out of Zodiac. · "I'm trying to trim an hour out of zodiac right now."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:15:50 · unknown (0.40)] Zodiac · fun · The era's meme: Norbit got one Oscar nomination (makeup), Zodiac got none. · "Norbit one Oscar Nam Zodiac Zero."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:18:38 · David Sims (0.40)] Zodiac · fun · Zodiac was released at Cannes two months after it bombed, to Fincher's confusion. · "They put it at Cann, 2 months as Griffin is saying, after it had bombed, even to Fincher's confusion."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 0:53:34 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Zodiac · fun · Graysmith claimed the killer could mount a flashlight on his gun; Fincher went to a flashlight museum, learned no 1969 bulb could do it, and so the film shows no such beam. · "And Fincher went to a flashlight museum."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:14:21 · Leslye Headland (0.50)] Zodiac · fun · The opening dolly shot needed a huge run of dolly track; Leslye says she'd be laughed out of the room pitching it. · "40 yards of fucking dolly track"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · 1:34:10 · Leslye Headland (0.50)] Zodiac · fun · Zodiac's blood is digital, and Leslye says it looks better than almost any digital blood she has seen. · "the fact that the blood is digital."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:17:05 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Seven ↔ The Shawshank Redemption · programming · Both are movies you get sucked into on cable by the last 40 minutes. · "The same thing with Shawshank."
[The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 1:31:24 · unknown (0.40)] L.A. Confidential ↔ The Nice Guys · programming · CR month ends with To Live and Die in L.A., Nice Guys, and L.A. Confidential, the first four-person Rewatchable. · "Our 1st 4 person we watchable."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:40:17 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Panic Room ↔ The Social Network · programming · Fincher movies are rewatchable and date-movie friendly, with the exception of Se7en; Social Network is the perfect date movie. · "Like social network, perfect date movie."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:29:37 · Bill Simmons (0.55)] Panic Room ↔ Bird Box · programming · Home-invasion and people-in-peril movies are what Netflix feeds viewers; Panic Room is the well-done version. · "But I think this is the really well-done version of it."
[The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:31:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] The Shining ⇒ Doctor Sleep (the host's read) · lineage · Doctor Sleep uses grown-up Danny and a new generation, Abra Stone. · "Using a familiar figure from the original film in Danny, the grown up Danny"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:04:37 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Seven ↔ Heat · lineage · Grouped with Usual Suspects, Heat and Casino as the four defining 1995 movies, three of which were shut out at the Oscars. · "Our usual suspects, which we recently did, Heat Casino in seven."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Internal Affairs’ · 0:44:46 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Internal Affairs ↔ L.A. Confidential · theme · L.A. Confidential is the other prominent L.A. dirty-cop movie that the speakers had left out. · "LA Confidential?"
[The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:56:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] The Social Network ⇒ Steve Jobs (the host's read) · lineage · Steve Jobs is called a worthy sequel to The Social Network on big tech and innovation. · "I think this is in many ways a worthy sequel to the social network"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:40:17 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Panic Room ↔ The Social Network · programming · Fincher movies are rewatchable and date-movie friendly, with the exception of Se7en; Social Network is the perfect date movie. · "Like social network, perfect date movie."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 0:03:31 · David Sims (0.90)] Stephen King ↔ The Shining · lineage · The film is a Kubrick film King hated, which sits under the whole project. · "trying to do the thing Stephen King hated"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:14:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Alfred Hitchcock ⇒ Seven (the host's read) · lineage · Se7en is a Hitchcock movie in its pulling-your-chain structure of mystery, reveal and anxiety, and Hitchcock is Fincher's biggest influence. · "I think as much as this seems like a modern movie, it's also just completely a Hitchcock movie in so many ways."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Internal Affairs’ · 0:44:49 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] L.A. Confidential ↔ Internal Affairs · craft · Both open with a dirty cop who executes a man and plants a gun on him with no consequences. · "So like even in like confidential when Russell Crowe just walks in and executes that guy."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network · 0:11:24 · David Sims (0.50)] The Social Network ↔ Blackberry · lineage · Blackberry is named as the only movie to come close to The Social Network in the 13 years since. · "I think Blackberry is the only thing that has come close and then now 13 years since this movie came out."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 1:33:06 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] Panic Room ↔ Succession · programming · As a ten-episode Netflix show, Junior would be Roman from Succession. · "but it's just that, um, Junior is Roman from Succession."
[speaker] Leslye Headland · latest sketch, Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac · Loves Zodiac as part of a Mount Rushmore (Zodiac, The Shining, Back to the Future, The Apartment) and watched it daily at a low point in her life. Adores blocking and staging as the true mark of the greats, loves Fincher's digital photography, and sees Fight Club as an evergreen Strangelove-style satire. Also a fan of L.A. Confidential as a nook-and-cranny movie. · stances: Zodiac is a masterpiece and a movie to live inside; Fincher's real genius is blocking and staging, not flash; Fight Club is a durable satire; Digital can look gorgeous
[speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
[speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
[speaker] Bill Simmons · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Loves the Friday series as a communal, rental-era memory and tells childhood stories about the ads and theaters. Likes casting what-ifs and sports analogies for everything. Skeptical of horror at Christmas and of anything that wastes the premise. · stances: Friday the 13th is not the best entry but the origin story had to be told; Friday 2 is a leap over the original
[speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
[speaker] Craig Horlbeck · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · First-time viewer of the series; expected Jason and was thrown by Mrs. Voorhees. Rates the film a 4 or 5 and singled out the canoe ending as the best scene. Prefers the Chain Saw's intensity. · stances: Rug-pulled by the killer-mom reveal; The ending saves the movie
[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
[bits] Blank Check: The box office game (Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against); The sung theme ("Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it)
[bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)

Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with Zodiac (2007); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend Zodiac (2007) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.

Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.

You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.

Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.