What the corpus says about The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished The Dark Knight Rises (2012) and wants to know what to watch next.

Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about The Dark Knight Rises (2012) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.

[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 1:04:50 · Griffin Newman (0.45)] Batman (franchise) ↔ The Dark Knight Rises · programming · All the post-West movies are on a race to self-serious credibility. · "It's been this race to self-serious credibility."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 0:18:49 · David Sims (0.50)] The Batman ⇒ The Dark Knight Rises (the host's read) · lineage · The ocean bomb-disposal sequence is thought to be directly referenced in the final act of Dark Knight Rises. · "this sequence, a lot of people think, is directly referenced by the final act of Dark Knight Rises."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 1:14:38 · David Sims (0.50)] The Batman ⇒ The Dark Knight Rises (the host's read) · lineage · The giant bomb, the film's most iconic image, is what Dark Knight Rises lifts. · "This is the thing that Dark Knight Rises kind of lifts."
[Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT · 0:46:45 · unknown (0.30)] Batman & Robin ↔ The Dark Knight Rises · theme · Joke: Bane's 2nd best performance is Batman & Robin; Dark Knight Rises is the other Bane movie. · "I would say it's probably Bane's 2nd best performance in a movie."
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:36:11 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] The Dark Knight Rises ↔ Justice League · what-if · Imagined bit: Aquaman confronting Bruce Wayne over the fish killed by the nuclear blast in The Dark Knight Rises. · "Do you know how many fucking fish died when you exploded that nuclear weapon over the ocean?"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Vanilla Sky · 1:28:13 · unknown (0.40)] Vanilla Sky ↔ The Dark Knight Rises · what-if · Nolan did a better version of this movie, and Dark Knight Rises shares a disfigured billionaire heir plot. · "I just realized Dark Diet Rises is also about a disfigured billionaire air who falls in love with a woman who tries to kill him."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 0:28:17 · Griffin Newman (0.35)] Tim Drake ⇒ The Dark Knight Rises (the host's read) · lineage · Nolan's Robin take is basically Tim Drake, and a speaker wishes it had been 10 percent more obvious. · "And I wish Nolan had just gone 10%, you know, more obvious with it."
[pairs] The Dark Knight Rises ↔ The Batman · said 2 times in 1 episode
[Blank Check — Patreon · Marvel Nerdfest · 0:12:13 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Batman ↔ The Flash · programming · The Batman is not in the same world as the other Batmen; DC is carving out separate zones. · "Matt Reeves comes in and is just like, I don't really want this Batman to be in the same world as the other Batman."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 1:03:19 · David Sims (0.45)] Batman (franchise) ↔ The Batman · programming · Reeves' film was well reviewed enough that DC may do more of it, the hosts hoping for fun elsewhere. · "I think we're now in Reevesville."
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:33:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Justice League ↔ Thor · programming · Justice League must make Cyborg, Aquaman, and the Flash into linchpins the way Thor and Captain America are. · "They have to be the Thor, they have to be the Captain America."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Vanilla Sky · 0:51:56 · unknown (0.40)] Vanilla Sky ↔ Stargate · programming · Running joke: Ben's favorite movie Stargate was the first film with a website. · "The 1st movie, the 1st website was for Ben Hosley's favorite movie, Stargate."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 0:15:13 · David Sims (0.50)] The Batman ↔ Batman: Mask of the Phantasm · programming · The humor peaks with the first film and declines across the series; Phantasm and Lego Batman are partial exceptions. · "humor peaks with the 1st one, just decline, basically."
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:32:00 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Suicide Squad ↔ Justice League · craft · Suicide Squad's street-level crooks fighting a celestial god is a story-scale mistake. · "Like, why are they fighting an like a celestial god."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Vanilla Sky · 1:45:35 · unknown (0.40)] The Royal Tenenbaums ↔ Vanilla Sky · programming · Tenenbaums opened the same week as Vanilla Sky in 5 theaters and averaged $55,000. · "Tenenbaums comes out that very week on 5 theaters and it grosses $276,000"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 1:03:19 · David Sims (0.45)] Batman (franchise) ↔ The Batman · programming · Reeves' film was well reviewed enough that DC may do more of it, the hosts hoping for fun elsewhere. · "I think we're now in Reevesville."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:33:24 · unknown (0.30)] Zack Snyder ↔ Justice League · craft · Snyder's approach to a speedster: lightning effects and cranked-up slow-mo. · "Snyder does his super cranked up thing."
[The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 1:09:45 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Open Your Eyes ⇒ Vanilla Sky (the host's read) · lineage · Cruise adapted Abre los Ojos into Vanilla Sky, a bold move he does not make today. · "adapted Aubrey Los Ojos into Vanilla Sky"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 2:03:25 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Batman ↔ The Sound of Music · programming · A UK sing-along Sound of Music (Prince Charles Theater) turned into a Rocky Horror-style costume event. · "It became this rocky horror adjacent thing"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Vanilla Sky · 0:18:08 · unknown (0.40)] Almost Famous ↔ Vanilla Sky · lineage · Almost Famous is the bridge: already more precious and less realistic than Jerry Maguire, before it tips over here. · "it's a definite bridge because, yes, it is more precious than Jerry Maguire."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 2:11:56 · David Sims (0.45)] Batman: Mask of the Phantasm ↔ The Batman · programming · The 'Not All Batman' series continues with Mask of the Phantasm in 20 days. · "Tune in for Batman Maska Phantasm for the thrilling conclusion"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Vanilla Sky · 0:26:51 · David Sims (0.60)] Abre los ojos (Open Your Eyes) ⇒ Vanilla Sky (the host's read) · lineage · Vanilla Sky is nearly the same story as the Spanish original, except the hero is a magazine magnate friends with Spielberg. · "So the film is actually pretty much exactly the same as Abri Lozojos, except for the main character of that movie is not a magazine magnate who's friends with Steven Spielberg."
[The Big Picture · The 2022 Movie Draft · 0:49:34 · unknown (0.40)] Gilda ↔ The Batman · lineage · A speaker says watching Gilda will help understand the next Batman, with Scarlett Johansson rumored as Gilda Dent. · "And then you'll be able to understand the Batman too."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Vanilla Sky · 0:31:50 · David Sims (0.45)] Abre los ojos (Open Your Eyes) ⇒ Vanilla Sky (the host's read) · lineage · The Spanish film has the same beats, and the protagonist's face looks even worse in it. · "But it's like the movie's beats are exactly the same down to the, you know, crucial moment of him like lying in the gut."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 0:08:26 · Griffin Newman (0.45)] The Batman ⇒ Batman Forever / Batman & Robin (the host's read) · lineage · Griffin says Schumacher's Batman films are directly shaped by the Adam West show's pairing and cliffhanger style. · "Joel Schumacher is very influenced by the Adam West show."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Vanilla Sky · 0:43:10 · unknown (0.40)] Vanilla Sky ↔ Jerry Maguire · lineage · Vanilla Sky is likened to Jerry Maguire escaping a Frankenstein experiment before it was finished. · "this movie is like Jerry Maguire, like, got out of some sort of like Frankenstein monster experiment before he was finished"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 0:11:37 · David Sims (0.50)] Batman (1943 serial) ⇒ The Batman (the host's read) · lineage · A New York screening of the 1943 Lewis Wilson serial caused bat fever and led Fox to greenlight the movie. · "someone screened that in New York City and it was such a phenomenon."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Vanilla Sky · 0:43:19 · unknown (0.35)] Vanilla Sky ↔ Jerry Maguire · lineage · A deformed Jerry Maguire. · "Well, it's like a deformed Jerry Maguire."
[speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
[speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
[speaker] David Shoemaker · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · Believes the best wrestling movies are documentaries and cult oddities; loves weird, tonally pure b-movies like Body Slam and Paradise Alley. Dislikes tone-deaf studio efforts like Ready to Rumble. A sucker for wrestling's blur of real and fake. · stances: Documentaries beat fiction for wrestling; The Wrestler is the best wrestling movie; Fiction fails when it treats a fake sport in a fake world; Wrestling history (Gold Dust Trio, Sputnik Monroe) deserves movies
[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)

Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with The Dark Knight Rises (2012); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend The Dark Knight Rises (2012) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.

Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.

You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.

Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.