What the corpus says about The Fate of the Furious (2017)

You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished The Fate of the Furious (2017) and wants to know what to watch next.

Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about The Fate of the Furious (2017) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.

[The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:17:53 · Shea Serrano (0.85)] Furious 7 ⇒ The Fate of the Furious (the host's read) · lineage · Fate and F9 lean on Furious 7's ending in vain with passing references to Brian. · "And they try and lean on it a little bit in the fate of the furious."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:54:27 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ The Fate of the Furious · craft · The London flat where Thor and Jane land looks like the penthouse where the Fast & Furious gang drinks Budweisers at the end of Fate. · "It sort of looks like the flat where they Fast and Furious gang gathers at the end of fate."
[The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:36:53 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] F9 ↔ The Fate of the Furious · verdict · Amanda puts F9 over Fate of the Furious purely for the magnet set pieces; Fate's submarine and baby sequences are the other side. · "I would put F9 over the fate of the furious."
[The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:37:10 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50)] The Fate of the Furious ↔ Hobbs & Shaw · verdict · Fate of the Furious is ranked above Hobbs & Shaw, with the Statham/Mirren material working better in Fate. · "Especially in Fate of the Furious, because it works in that movie and like doesn't really work in Hobson Shaw"
[The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:20:21 · Shea Serrano (0.80)] Better Luck Tomorrow ↔ F9 · lineage · Justin Lin folds his earlier film (via Han) into the Fast saga, like Jay-Z and Nas remaking a hot song. · "he's like, oh, the movie that I did before, Better Luck tomorrow."
[The Rewatchables · 'Taken' · 0:52:34 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Furious 7 ↔ Taken · theme · Toddlers are like cars without brakes, as in Furious 7 with Vin Diesel and Paul Walker. · "in fact, in Furious seven. Vin Diesel and Paul Walker in that car are jumping across buildings because there's no breaks in it."
[The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:34:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.90)] Hobbs & Shaw ↔ Fast Five · theme · Sean expects the franchise to become expansion titles because Statham and Diesel do not want to make movies together. · "clearly Jason Statham and Vin Diesel don't necessarily want to make a lot of movies together"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:00:57 · unknown (0.30)] Benicio del Toro ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Del Toro's Collector first appears in the Dark World post-credits and has been used little since. · "How much is he in dark world?"
[The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:40:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.90)] 2 Fast 2 Furious ↔ F9 · lineage · Sean says 2 Fast 2 Furious is tonally closer to the current franchise than the gritty Rob Cohen original. · "seems like it has a little bit more in common tonally than with the current set of the franchise than that original Rob Cohen film"
[The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:15:53 · Shea Serrano (0.60)] Fast and Furious 6 ↔ Furious 7 · craft · Letty-Gina fight in 6 and Letty-Ronda Rousey fight in 7 named as the two best fights. · "she's given us the 2 best fights."
[The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:40:45 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Hobbs & Shaw ↔ The Hustle · theme · As films, not box office, The Hustle is judged more successful than Hobbs & Shaw. · "I think the hustle is more successful than Hobbs and Shaw personally."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Dark World is the high-fantasy entry in the same one-genre-per-film scheme. · "Dark World is like high fantasy."
[The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:43:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.90)] The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift ⇒ F9 (the host's read) · lineage · F9 gives Tokyo Drift a big shout out and brings back Han. · "it's a movie that has a huge cult fan base that gets a pretty big shout out in F9."
[The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:30:41 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85)] Fast Five ↔ Furious 7 · craft · Amanda defends Fast Five over Furious 7 by the Rio safe-drag set piece. · "Like they took the safe out of the wall and then they just dragged it through the city and then they switched it to another safe."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:50:31 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Nutcracker and the Four Realms ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Joking that a 'four realms' film from the director of Captain America should have had nine realms. · "He won't settle for four."
[The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:31:52 · Shea Serrano (0.70)] Furious 7 ↔ Wiz Khalifa · craft · A Wiz Khalifa song carries the Paul Walker send-off ending, enough to make the speaker cry in the theater. · "I can't, I'm crying to a whiz Khalifa song in the movie theater, like, what? That's how special this movie is."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:59:51 · David Sims (0.30)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Guardians of the Galaxy · programming · The Collector mid-credits scene already shows the Guardians' comic space weirdness; the speaker thinks James Gunn directed it. · "I think gun directed this. It's 100% difficult."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:17:10 · David Sims (0.40)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ The Lord of the Rings · lineage · The Dark Elf war prologue and design is Lord of the Rings style ancient-story fantasy. · "This is some sort of like Lord of the Rings stuff where it's sort of like, you know, this is an ancient story."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B. · "This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone. · "And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 2:02:06 · David Sims (0.40)] Doctor Who ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read) · lineage · Marvel in general is indebted to Doctor Who's tone of lightness, comedy, hope and teamwork, especially the Russell T Davies era. · "I think Marvel in general is very kind of indebted to Doctor Who with the same tone of like lightness and comedy and hope and team teamwork."
[speaker] Amanda Dobbins · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · Loves The Strangers' withholding craft and a good tense horror film without gore, but likes fun, communal movies like Mamma Mia. She dislikes supernatural or gory horror, which irritates her more than it scares her. She is a sucker for stars and for Googling a movie mid-recording. · stances: The Strangers is scary because of what it doesn't show or explain; Ending explanation weakens it; no answer would be better; Prefers 'withholding' filmmaking; Defends Mamma Mia as joyful and intentional
[speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
[speaker] Shea Serrano · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · The franchise's biggest fan, loves family, Dom, Letty and stunts, and the first film as the centerpiece. Shrugs at villains and wants smaller street-racing again. · stances: The Fast and the Furious is number one; Tokyo Drift is the keystone; Worst moments are still really fun
[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
[bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)

Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with The Fate of the Furious (2017); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend The Fate of the Furious (2017) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.

Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.

You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.

Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.