What the corpus says about Gone Girl (2014)
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What was said about it (26)
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ · 1:37:30 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50)] The War of the Roses ↔ Gone Girl · lineage · Roses is described as a prequel to Gone Girl; it could have pivoted to Turner killing Douglas and going on the run. · "This movie's kind of a prequel to Gone Girl."
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:17:53 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · lineage · It is the closest Fincher has come to a pure thriller since Gone Girl, maybe Dragon Tattoo. · "he hasn't made a movie quite like this, I guess, since Gone Girl, but even, I mean, you could maybe even going back further to Dragon Tattoo is maybe a little closer to this kind of a pure thriller."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:34:23 · Esther Zuckerman (0.70)] Gone Girl (Gillian Flynn novel) ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read) · lineage · The film adapts Flynn's novel, and the first-person diary trickery was the open question about how it would work on screen. · "Because it is such like a little fun piece of 1st person narration trickery."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:36:35 · unknown (0.30)] A Simple Plan ⇒ Gone Girl (the maker said so) · lineage · Flynn used A Simple Plan as her model for adapting her own novel, then worried she could not match it. · "And she said, so I tried to use that as a model and then I freaked myself out because I was like, well, this is too good. I won't do this well."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:12:35 · unknown (0.30)] Glengarry Glen Ross ↔ Gone Girl · theme · Fincher reportedly said the book's Tanner Bolt reads like Baldwin in Glengarry and would have turned the audience against him. · "The way it reads on paper is you imagine him being more of a like Baldwin and Glengarry Glenn Bross."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:18:15 · unknown (0.30)] Lolita ⇒ Gone Girl (the maker said so: In the commentary) · theme · On the commentary Fincher says he wanted a Claire Quilty type for Desi and found it in Neil Patrick Harris. · "Fincher said he wanted a Claire quilty type and he's like, what's a modern Claire quilty type?"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room · 1:30:27 · unknown (0.40)] Panic Room ↔ Gone Girl · craft · A host says Panic Room's antiseptic, fluorescent look anticipates Gone Girl. · "Like, not eight, but like, it looks like Gone Girl."
- [The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 1:14:48 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] The Intern ↔ Gone Girl · contrast · Gone Girl is Fincher's gender movie; the speaker thinks The Intern could be funny too. · "I mean, like David Fincher does like a gender movie, I guess, is gone girl, but the intern could be funny too"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:33:59 · unknown (0.30)] Mad Men ↔ Gone Girl · contrast · The speaker argues Hamm's Don Draper unknowability would sit on the surface where Affleck's reads as real doubt. · "Ham would be affecting a thing that just exists on the surface of Affleck."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:57:21 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ↔ Promising Young Woman · contrast · Gone Girl's cool-girl monologue is praised as clear; Promising Young Woman is said to lack a clear worldview. · "But I think that is a movie that, like, on a pretty fundamental level, does not really have a clarity in what it is saying or what its worldview is."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:38:13 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ↔ Strangers on a Train (unmade Fincher/Flynn project) · career · Fincher and Flynn almost at once announced a Strangers on a Train that never happened. · "they almost immediately announced after this, the strangers on a train that doesn't happen."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:55:22 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read) · people · The speaker thinks Fincher's exhaustive casting search on Dragon Tattoo informed how he cast Amy with someone new to the audience. · "that exhaustive casting search, which I do think informs the way he approaches Amy going into this movie as well"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:06:28 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ⇒ Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (the host's read) · people · While making Gone Girl, Affleck reportedly joked to his agent that he needed a heroic-chin movie after the evil-chin one. · "the joke was the chin things in the script, he calls up his agent, while making Gone Girl, and says, like, I'm doing the evil chin movie now, you got to find me a heroic chin movie."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:09:35 · unknown (0.30)] Alex Cross ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read) · people · Perry's turn in Alex Cross is given as the reason Fincher cast him as Tanner Bolt. · "Well, that's why Fisher cast him in this."
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:57:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · industry · Pitched as a conventional hitman movie it might do commercially though not $500 million like Gone Girl. · "It might not be a $500 million movie like Gone Girl, but it's pretty commercial."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:32:49 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ↔ Dark Places · industry · Dark Places was sold off Gone Girl, with the Gone Girl one-sheet on its poster; a business pairing, not a creative claim. · "Dark Places came out a year after Gone Girl and had like Gone Girl on the poster."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:47:44 · unknown (0.30)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ↔ Gone Girl · industry · Dragon Tattoo got the same dismissal as a stylist's pulp job, with more nominations. · "He is, he is, but Dragon Tattoo kind of got the same treatment."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:50:30 · David Sims (0.40)] Gone Girl ↔ Annabelle · industry · Gone Girl and Annabelle opened to almost the same money. · "Two movies opening to the same amount of money, essentially."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:10:07 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ↔ Alex Cross · what-if · If Gone Girl had come first, a better Alex Cross franchise might have been built around Perry. · "If Gone Girl had come first. And then he was like, I want to take on Alex Cross."
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:09:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · emotional through-line · Amazing Amy's coping with childhood exploitation is another Fincher story of someone never letting the facade break. · "Gone Girl is the same way, you know, like everything that Amazing Amy is going through is like her coping with"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:05:14 · unknown (0.30)] Runner Runner → Gone Girl · lesson learned · Affleck reportedly said Runner Runner was a mistake and he should only work with top-tier directors; the speaker does not tie it to Gone Girl by name. · "this was a mistake. I need to only work with like really top tier directors"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:37:02 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ↔ The Way Back · shared detail · Natty Ice appears in Gone Girl and is also Affleck's beer in The Way Back. · "I feel like Natty Ice is also his beer in the way back."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:06:31 · unknown (0.30)] Fight Club ↔ Gone Girl · unreliable voiceover · Fight Club, Gone Girl and The Killer share voiceover that turns out to be lying. · "But like, Fight Club, Gone, Girl, and the killer are all very unreliable voice."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:06:31 · unknown (0.30)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · unreliable voiceover · Fight Club, Gone Girl and The Killer share voiceover that turns out to be lying. · "But like, Fight Club, Gone, Girl, and the killer are all very unreliable voice."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network · 0:06:46 · unknown (0.35)] Zodiac ↔ Gone Girl · Fincher's peak run · The speaker calls Fincher's run from Zodiac to Gone Girl the peak of his career. · "Yeah, I guess his run from zodiac to gone girl. I do think is the peak of his career."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:20:39 · unknown (0.30)] Reese Witherspoon ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read) · lineage · Witherspoon took the book and had the idea of bringing Fincher on board. · "takes this book, has the smart idea, bring Fincher on board."
Films put beside it more than once (3)
- [pairs] Gone Girl ↔ The Killer · said 4 times in 2 episodes
- [pairs] Gone Girl ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · said 2 times in 1 episode
- [pairs] Gone Girl ↔ Alex Cross · said 2 times in 1 episode
Fun items about it (6)
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:04:57 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl · fun · The much-debated nudity: a one-hour-in glimpse of Affleck that the framing does not point at, which some theater crowds and projections missed. · "He does not construct that frame to draw your attention to the dick."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:09:57 · Esther Zuckerman (0.70)] Gone Girl · fun · Esther's boyfriend's ex saw it with him in 2014 and told him afterward she would like to 'gone girl' him. · "I would like to gone girl you, basically."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:12:16 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl · fun · Fincher attended the opening-weekend Lincoln Square screening and afterward trimmed a few seconds from scenes that ran long. · "I remember later hearing that Fincher was at that screening."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:15:28 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl · fun · On the commentary, Fincher's first remark is that Rosamund Pike wears a wig in nearly every scene, so almost every shot needed a digital wig-line removal, including the opening shot of the back of her head. · "basically every scene Rosemond Pike is wearing a wig in this movie and wig technology has not really advanced in the last 100 years."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:30:14 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl · fun · The Blu-ray includes a real Amazing Amy kids' book written to mirror the movie, which the speakers find arch and not child-friendly. · "It's arch and it's very much like they wrote an amazing Amy that mirrors the movie."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:50:38 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl · fun · Fincher's hardest job was getting Fox to market only the first 45 minutes; the only later image allowed in the trailer was the imagined shot of Amy's body underwater. · "going to Fox and being like, the marketing of this film in every way has to be centered only around the 1st 45 minutes."
One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (17)
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:20:30 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Fight Club · programming · Both are very funny first-person-narrated films about sociopaths who rationalize brutal violence as a personal mission. · "This movie would make a neat pairing with Fight Club. Two very funny films about sociopaths whose inner monologues rationalize brutal violence as expressions of a personal mission."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:16:06 · Fran Hoepfner (0.40)] The Girl in the Spider's Web ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · lineage · Spider's Web is the reboot after Fincher's film; the speaker finds it ill advised to abandon Mara. · "especially when the thing that everyone liked most about this movie was that performance and how quickly they abandoned it."
- [The Big Picture · The 10 Most Misused Stars in Hollywood and the Gnarly Magic of ‘Send Help’ · 0:55:16 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50)] Sam Raimi ↔ A Simple Plan · craft · Raimi repeatedly makes characters' own choices, not the system, the cause of their ruin, as in A Simple Plan. · "Like in a simple plan, he does this."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:16:54 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Killer ↔ Steven Soderbergh · programming · A friend of the podcast says it is Fincher and Soderbergh land: a stripped-down genre exercise. · "it's Fincher and Sodaberg land."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:49:09 · unknown (0.30)] Stieg Larsson ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read) · lineage · The film is Zaillian's abridged adaptation of Larsson's novel, which loses nothing major. · "I think this is an excellent piece of adaptation that does not really, like, skip anything major."
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:20:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Rear Window ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The Paris hit sequence is a clear homage built on watching rooms across the street. · "it is a kind of rear window monkey. You know, it is like an attempt to recreate the across the street path, vision of what is happening in rooms in another building, and clear homage to that film."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:54:19 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read) · lineage · The Fincher film is the American remake of the Swedish original; its director says he was not worried. · "Everyone who loves film will go see the original."
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:22:52 · Adam Nayman (0.70)] The Cable Guy ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The TV-character aliases gag was already a joke in The Cable Guy (50s characters there, 70s and 80s here). · "that was a joke of the cable guy just to give credit where it's to."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 1:25:22 · Griffin Newman (0.30)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ↔ Michael Clayton · theme · Both open on a protagonist already broken by past failure. · "It's the Michael Clayton thing I love of like, you start this movie with a character"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:12:09 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Killer (graphic novel) ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The film takes almost everything from the first 200-odd pages of the comic; the series ran on to 2018. · "it feels like everything from the movie is basically taken from the 1st 200 some odd pages"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:02:09 · unknown (host) (0.30)] The Killer ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · craft · The speaker listened to the Dragon Tattoo score while reading the comic because The Killer score was not out. · "it's not out there, so I just listened Dragon Tattoo."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:17:31 · unknown (host) (0.30)] Panic Room ↔ The Killer · lineage · Panic Room was loaded with everything; The Killer strips a genre down. · "even when he's making something like panic room that's a bit of a genre riff"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:52:03 · unknown (0.30)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · craft · The Swedish version is a near one-to-one transposition with no act structure; Fincher's feels dramatic. · "the Swedish one is almost so one-to-one that it has no ax structure."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:27:27 · unknown (host) (0.30)] The Killer (graphic novel) ⇒ The Killer (the maker said so: interviews (Fincher 'gave some interviewers')) · lineage · Fincher told interviewers he was adapting a French graphic novel about an assassin that he had always liked. · "he gave some interviewers, like, we're working on this Chinatown thing, and then he was like, I'm also playing with adapting this French graphic novel about the assassin that I've always liked."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 1:11:05 · unknown (0.30)] Sven Nykvist ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the maker said so) · craft · Someone on the shoot (Fincher, or the DP by the garbled name) wanted a Sven Nykvist look: warm fires, cold rooms. · "I wanted to do a whole Sven Nikfist thing"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 1:30:07 · unknown (host) (0.30)] The Killer ↔ Michael Mann · lineage · Fincher is doing a Michael Mann riff: a man with one feeling he will not admit. · "this is also Fincher doing a man, Michael Mann type riff"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 1:11:51 · unknown (0.30)] Lola Visual Effects ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · craft · Lola tracked a hair gap into reshot footage. · "So Lola, the special effects house, who's like one of the best, they do like all the de-aging, they're like top level."
Who said it, by their latest sketch (6)
- [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
- [speaker] Esther Zuckerman · latest sketch, Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · Film writer and former Entertainment Weekly staffer who read the book first and loves Gone Girl without caveats. Adores Rosamund Pike, Reese Witherspoon's range and Wild, and thinks Amy is amazing. Defends Promising Young Woman and will not be teased out of a rom-com read of the film. · stances: Gone Girl is one of the great films, not a guilty pleasure; Amy Dunne is a girl boss; The cool-girl monologue was written from a crazy person's view, and the film speaks to a moment; Reese Witherspoon is undervalued
- [speaker] Amanda Dobbins · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · Loves The Strangers' withholding craft and a good tense horror film without gore, but likes fun, communal movies like Mamma Mia. She dislikes supernatural or gory horror, which irritates her more than it scares her. She is a sucker for stars and for Googling a movie mid-recording. · stances: The Strangers is scary because of what it doesn't show or explain; Ending explanation weakens it; no answer would be better; Prefers 'withholding' filmmaking; Defends Mamma Mia as joyful and intentional
- [speaker] Craig Horlbeck · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · First-time viewer of the series; expected Jason and was thrown by Mrs. Voorhees. Rates the film a 4 or 5 and singled out the canoe ending as the best scene. Prefers the Chain Saw's intensity. · stances: Rug-pulled by the killer-mom reveal; The ending saves the movie
- [speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
- [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
The shows' running bits (2)
- [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
- [bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)
The whole prompt
As the model gets it, from app/Ai/Prompts/CorpusAsk.md
You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished Gone Girl (2014) and wants to know what to watch next. Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about Gone Girl (2014) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion. [The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ · 1:37:30 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50)] The War of the Roses ↔ Gone Girl · lineage · Roses is described as a prequel to Gone Girl; it could have pivoted to Turner killing Douglas and going on the run. · "This movie's kind of a prequel to Gone Girl." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:17:53 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · lineage · It is the closest Fincher has come to a pure thriller since Gone Girl, maybe Dragon Tattoo. · "he hasn't made a movie quite like this, I guess, since Gone Girl, but even, I mean, you could maybe even going back further to Dragon Tattoo is maybe a little closer to this kind of a pure thriller." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:34:23 · Esther Zuckerman (0.70)] Gone Girl (Gillian Flynn novel) ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read) · lineage · The film adapts Flynn's novel, and the first-person diary trickery was the open question about how it would work on screen. · "Because it is such like a little fun piece of 1st person narration trickery." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:36:35 · unknown (0.30)] A Simple Plan ⇒ Gone Girl (the maker said so) · lineage · Flynn used A Simple Plan as her model for adapting her own novel, then worried she could not match it. · "And she said, so I tried to use that as a model and then I freaked myself out because I was like, well, this is too good. I won't do this well." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:12:35 · unknown (0.30)] Glengarry Glen Ross ↔ Gone Girl · theme · Fincher reportedly said the book's Tanner Bolt reads like Baldwin in Glengarry and would have turned the audience against him. · "The way it reads on paper is you imagine him being more of a like Baldwin and Glengarry Glenn Bross." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:18:15 · unknown (0.30)] Lolita ⇒ Gone Girl (the maker said so: In the commentary) · theme · On the commentary Fincher says he wanted a Claire Quilty type for Desi and found it in Neil Patrick Harris. · "Fincher said he wanted a Claire quilty type and he's like, what's a modern Claire quilty type?" [Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room · 1:30:27 · unknown (0.40)] Panic Room ↔ Gone Girl · craft · A host says Panic Room's antiseptic, fluorescent look anticipates Gone Girl. · "Like, not eight, but like, it looks like Gone Girl." [The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 1:14:48 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] The Intern ↔ Gone Girl · contrast · Gone Girl is Fincher's gender movie; the speaker thinks The Intern could be funny too. · "I mean, like David Fincher does like a gender movie, I guess, is gone girl, but the intern could be funny too" [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:33:59 · unknown (0.30)] Mad Men ↔ Gone Girl · contrast · The speaker argues Hamm's Don Draper unknowability would sit on the surface where Affleck's reads as real doubt. · "Ham would be affecting a thing that just exists on the surface of Affleck." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:57:21 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ↔ Promising Young Woman · contrast · Gone Girl's cool-girl monologue is praised as clear; Promising Young Woman is said to lack a clear worldview. · "But I think that is a movie that, like, on a pretty fundamental level, does not really have a clarity in what it is saying or what its worldview is." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:38:13 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ↔ Strangers on a Train (unmade Fincher/Flynn project) · career · Fincher and Flynn almost at once announced a Strangers on a Train that never happened. · "they almost immediately announced after this, the strangers on a train that doesn't happen." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:55:22 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read) · people · The speaker thinks Fincher's exhaustive casting search on Dragon Tattoo informed how he cast Amy with someone new to the audience. · "that exhaustive casting search, which I do think informs the way he approaches Amy going into this movie as well" [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:06:28 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ⇒ Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (the host's read) · people · While making Gone Girl, Affleck reportedly joked to his agent that he needed a heroic-chin movie after the evil-chin one. · "the joke was the chin things in the script, he calls up his agent, while making Gone Girl, and says, like, I'm doing the evil chin movie now, you got to find me a heroic chin movie." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:09:35 · unknown (0.30)] Alex Cross ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read) · people · Perry's turn in Alex Cross is given as the reason Fincher cast him as Tanner Bolt. · "Well, that's why Fisher cast him in this." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:57:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · industry · Pitched as a conventional hitman movie it might do commercially though not $500 million like Gone Girl. · "It might not be a $500 million movie like Gone Girl, but it's pretty commercial." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:32:49 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ↔ Dark Places · industry · Dark Places was sold off Gone Girl, with the Gone Girl one-sheet on its poster; a business pairing, not a creative claim. · "Dark Places came out a year after Gone Girl and had like Gone Girl on the poster." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:47:44 · unknown (0.30)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ↔ Gone Girl · industry · Dragon Tattoo got the same dismissal as a stylist's pulp job, with more nominations. · "He is, he is, but Dragon Tattoo kind of got the same treatment." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:50:30 · David Sims (0.40)] Gone Girl ↔ Annabelle · industry · Gone Girl and Annabelle opened to almost the same money. · "Two movies opening to the same amount of money, essentially." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:10:07 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ↔ Alex Cross · what-if · If Gone Girl had come first, a better Alex Cross franchise might have been built around Perry. · "If Gone Girl had come first. And then he was like, I want to take on Alex Cross." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:09:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · emotional through-line · Amazing Amy's coping with childhood exploitation is another Fincher story of someone never letting the facade break. · "Gone Girl is the same way, you know, like everything that Amazing Amy is going through is like her coping with" [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:05:14 · unknown (0.30)] Runner Runner → Gone Girl · lesson learned · Affleck reportedly said Runner Runner was a mistake and he should only work with top-tier directors; the speaker does not tie it to Gone Girl by name. · "this was a mistake. I need to only work with like really top tier directors" [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:37:02 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl ↔ The Way Back · shared detail · Natty Ice appears in Gone Girl and is also Affleck's beer in The Way Back. · "I feel like Natty Ice is also his beer in the way back." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:06:31 · unknown (0.30)] Fight Club ↔ Gone Girl · unreliable voiceover · Fight Club, Gone Girl and The Killer share voiceover that turns out to be lying. · "But like, Fight Club, Gone, Girl, and the killer are all very unreliable voice." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 2:06:31 · unknown (0.30)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · unreliable voiceover · Fight Club, Gone Girl and The Killer share voiceover that turns out to be lying. · "But like, Fight Club, Gone, Girl, and the killer are all very unreliable voice." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network · 0:06:46 · unknown (0.35)] Zodiac ↔ Gone Girl · Fincher's peak run · The speaker calls Fincher's run from Zodiac to Gone Girl the peak of his career. · "Yeah, I guess his run from zodiac to gone girl. I do think is the peak of his career." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:20:39 · unknown (0.30)] Reese Witherspoon ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read) · lineage · Witherspoon took the book and had the idea of bringing Fincher on board. · "takes this book, has the smart idea, bring Fincher on board." [pairs] Gone Girl ↔ The Killer · said 4 times in 2 episodes [pairs] Gone Girl ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · said 2 times in 1 episode [pairs] Gone Girl ↔ Alex Cross · said 2 times in 1 episode [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:04:57 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl · fun · The much-debated nudity: a one-hour-in glimpse of Affleck that the framing does not point at, which some theater crowds and projections missed. · "He does not construct that frame to draw your attention to the dick." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 0:09:57 · Esther Zuckerman (0.70)] Gone Girl · fun · Esther's boyfriend's ex saw it with him in 2014 and told him afterward she would like to 'gone girl' him. · "I would like to gone girl you, basically." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:12:16 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl · fun · Fincher attended the opening-weekend Lincoln Square screening and afterward trimmed a few seconds from scenes that ran long. · "I remember later hearing that Fincher was at that screening." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:15:28 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl · fun · On the commentary, Fincher's first remark is that Rosamund Pike wears a wig in nearly every scene, so almost every shot needed a digital wig-line removal, including the opening shot of the back of her head. · "basically every scene Rosemond Pike is wearing a wig in this movie and wig technology has not really advanced in the last 100 years." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:30:14 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl · fun · The Blu-ray includes a real Amazing Amy kids' book written to mirror the movie, which the speakers find arch and not child-friendly. · "It's arch and it's very much like they wrote an amazing Amy that mirrors the movie." [Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · 1:50:38 · unknown (0.30)] Gone Girl · fun · Fincher's hardest job was getting Fox to market only the first 45 minutes; the only later image allowed in the trailer was the imagined shot of Amy's body underwater. · "going to Fox and being like, the marketing of this film in every way has to be centered only around the 1st 45 minutes." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:20:30 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Fight Club · programming · Both are very funny first-person-narrated films about sociopaths who rationalize brutal violence as a personal mission. · "This movie would make a neat pairing with Fight Club. Two very funny films about sociopaths whose inner monologues rationalize brutal violence as expressions of a personal mission." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:16:06 · Fran Hoepfner (0.40)] The Girl in the Spider's Web ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · lineage · Spider's Web is the reboot after Fincher's film; the speaker finds it ill advised to abandon Mara. · "especially when the thing that everyone liked most about this movie was that performance and how quickly they abandoned it." [The Big Picture · The 10 Most Misused Stars in Hollywood and the Gnarly Magic of ‘Send Help’ · 0:55:16 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50)] Sam Raimi ↔ A Simple Plan · craft · Raimi repeatedly makes characters' own choices, not the system, the cause of their ruin, as in A Simple Plan. · "Like in a simple plan, he does this." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:16:54 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Killer ↔ Steven Soderbergh · programming · A friend of the podcast says it is Fincher and Soderbergh land: a stripped-down genre exercise. · "it's Fincher and Sodaberg land." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:49:09 · unknown (0.30)] Stieg Larsson ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read) · lineage · The film is Zaillian's abridged adaptation of Larsson's novel, which loses nothing major. · "I think this is an excellent piece of adaptation that does not really, like, skip anything major." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:20:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Rear Window ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The Paris hit sequence is a clear homage built on watching rooms across the street. · "it is a kind of rear window monkey. You know, it is like an attempt to recreate the across the street path, vision of what is happening in rooms in another building, and clear homage to that film." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:54:19 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read) · lineage · The Fincher film is the American remake of the Swedish original; its director says he was not worried. · "Everyone who loves film will go see the original." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:22:52 · Adam Nayman (0.70)] The Cable Guy ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The TV-character aliases gag was already a joke in The Cable Guy (50s characters there, 70s and 80s here). · "that was a joke of the cable guy just to give credit where it's to." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 1:25:22 · Griffin Newman (0.30)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ↔ Michael Clayton · theme · Both open on a protagonist already broken by past failure. · "It's the Michael Clayton thing I love of like, you start this movie with a character" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:12:09 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Killer (graphic novel) ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The film takes almost everything from the first 200-odd pages of the comic; the series ran on to 2018. · "it feels like everything from the movie is basically taken from the 1st 200 some odd pages" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:02:09 · unknown (host) (0.30)] The Killer ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · craft · The speaker listened to the Dragon Tattoo score while reading the comic because The Killer score was not out. · "it's not out there, so I just listened Dragon Tattoo." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:17:31 · unknown (host) (0.30)] Panic Room ↔ The Killer · lineage · Panic Room was loaded with everything; The Killer strips a genre down. · "even when he's making something like panic room that's a bit of a genre riff" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:52:03 · unknown (0.30)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · craft · The Swedish version is a near one-to-one transposition with no act structure; Fincher's feels dramatic. · "the Swedish one is almost so one-to-one that it has no ax structure." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:27:27 · unknown (host) (0.30)] The Killer (graphic novel) ⇒ The Killer (the maker said so: interviews (Fincher 'gave some interviewers')) · lineage · Fincher told interviewers he was adapting a French graphic novel about an assassin that he had always liked. · "he gave some interviewers, like, we're working on this Chinatown thing, and then he was like, I'm also playing with adapting this French graphic novel about the assassin that I've always liked." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 1:11:05 · unknown (0.30)] Sven Nykvist ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the maker said so) · craft · Someone on the shoot (Fincher, or the DP by the garbled name) wanted a Sven Nykvist look: warm fires, cold rooms. · "I wanted to do a whole Sven Nikfist thing" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 1:30:07 · unknown (host) (0.30)] The Killer ↔ Michael Mann · lineage · Fincher is doing a Michael Mann riff: a man with one feeling he will not admit. · "this is also Fincher doing a man, Michael Mann type riff" [Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 1:11:51 · unknown (0.30)] Lola Visual Effects ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · craft · Lola tracked a hair gap into reshot footage. · "So Lola, the special effects house, who's like one of the best, they do like all the de-aging, they're like top level." [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license [speaker] Esther Zuckerman · latest sketch, Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl · Film writer and former Entertainment Weekly staffer who read the book first and loves Gone Girl without caveats. Adores Rosamund Pike, Reese Witherspoon's range and Wild, and thinks Amy is amazing. Defends Promising Young Woman and will not be teased out of a rom-com read of the film. · stances: Gone Girl is one of the great films, not a guilty pleasure; Amy Dunne is a girl boss; The cool-girl monologue was written from a crazy person's view, and the film speaks to a moment; Reese Witherspoon is undervalued [speaker] Amanda Dobbins · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · Loves The Strangers' withholding craft and a good tense horror film without gore, but likes fun, communal movies like Mamma Mia. She dislikes supernatural or gory horror, which irritates her more than it scares her. She is a sucker for stars and for Googling a movie mid-recording. · stances: The Strangers is scary because of what it doesn't show or explain; Ending explanation weakens it; no answer would be better; Prefers 'withholding' filmmaking; Defends Mamma Mia as joyful and intentional [speaker] Craig Horlbeck · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · First-time viewer of the series; expected Jason and was thrown by Mrs. Voorhees. Rates the film a 4 or 5 and singled out the canoe ending as the best scene. Prefers the Chain Saw's intensity. · stances: Rug-pulled by the killer-mom reveal; The ending saves the movie [speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty' [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten) [bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick) Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with Gone Girl (2014); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend Gone Girl (2014) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them. Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact. You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here. Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.