What the corpus says about Mindhunter (2017)

You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished Mindhunter (2017) and wants to know what to watch next.

Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about Mindhunter (2017) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.

[The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:13:07 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Mindhunter · theme · Mindhunter, Mank and The Killer are three works asking what it was all for, suggesting Fincher is questioning his own devotion. · "Mindhunter and Mank and this are 3 movies slash series about kind of like, what is it all for?"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:43:45 · unknown (0.30)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ↔ Mindhunter · career · Between The Social Network and Dragon Tattoo, Fincher developed Mindhunter with Charlize Theron. · "starts developing Mindhunter with Charlie's Theron, who is a producer."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Mank · 0:55:17 · Griffin Newman (0.60)] Mank ↔ Mindhunter · how Mank got made · When Netflix could not afford a third Mindhunter season, Fincher pulled Mank off the shelf. · "Netflix is kind of like we kind of can't make a 3rd season of this, it's too expensive."
[The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:54:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] The Trial of the Chicago 7 ↔ Mank · programming · Chicago 7 is a big fat fastball for the Oscars alongside Mank, Nomadland and Hillbilly Elegy. · "this is a big fat, fastball right down the middle."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:16:06 · Fran Hoepfner (0.40)] The Girl in the Spider's Web ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · lineage · Spider's Web is the reboot after Fincher's film; the speaker finds it ill advised to abandon Mara. · "especially when the thing that everyone liked most about this movie was that performance and how quickly they abandoned it."
[The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:20:30 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Fight Club · programming · Both are very funny first-person-narrated films about sociopaths who rationalize brutal violence as a personal mission. · "This movie would make a neat pairing with Fight Club. Two very funny films about sociopaths whose inner monologues rationalize brutal violence as expressions of a personal mission."
[The Big Picture · Emergency Mailbag: The Oscars Are Streaming and Hollywood Is Fighting Over Trolls | The Big Picture · 0:58:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Citizen Kane ⇒ Mank (the host's read) · lineage · Mank is partly inspired by Pauline Kael's essay on who truly authored Citizen Kane. · "it's in part inspired by that very famous Pauline Kale, story raising Kane, about the true authorship of Citizen Kane"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:49:09 · unknown (0.30)] Stieg Larsson ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read) · lineage · The film is Zaillian's abridged adaptation of Larsson's novel, which loses nothing major. · "I think this is an excellent piece of adaptation that does not really, like, skip anything major."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:16:54 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Killer ↔ Steven Soderbergh · programming · A friend of the podcast says it is Fincher and Soderbergh land: a stripped-down genre exercise. · "it's Fincher and Sodaberg land."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Mank · 0:48:09 · Griffin Newman (0.60)] Jack Fincher ⇒ Mank (the maker said so: Fincher's own account as read from the dossier (outlet not named)) · lineage · Fincher's father wrote the original Mank script, which David set aside until years later. · "I'm handed this script that my dad wrote about all powerful directors ruining storytelling"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:54:19 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read) · lineage · The Fincher film is the American remake of the Swedish original; its director says he was not worried. · "Everyone who loves film will go see the original."
[The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:17:53 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · lineage · It is the closest Fincher has come to a pure thriller since Gone Girl, maybe Dragon Tattoo. · "he hasn't made a movie quite like this, I guess, since Gone Girl, but even, I mean, you could maybe even going back further to Dragon Tattoo is maybe a little closer to this kind of a pure thriller."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Mank · 1:13:08 · David Sims (0.80)] Citizen Kane ⇒ Mank (the maker said so: David's interview with cinematographer Erik Messerschmidt) · lineage · Messerschmidt told the interviewer he wanted low, deep-focus photography evoking Citizen Kane, not noir. · "He's like, no, I want to do it low to the ground, lots of deep focus, evoking citizen Kane."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 1:25:22 · Griffin Newman (0.30)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ↔ Michael Clayton · theme · Both open on a protagonist already broken by past failure. · "It's the Michael Clayton thing I love of like, you start this movie with a character"
[The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:20:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Rear Window ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The Paris hit sequence is a clear homage built on watching rooms across the street. · "it is a kind of rear window monkey. You know, it is like an attempt to recreate the across the street path, vision of what is happening in rooms in another building, and clear homage to that film."
[The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 0:02:38 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Mank ↔ David Fincher · craft · Fincher shot and cut Mank to look like a 1940s film. · "he has shot this film to look like a film from the 1940s and the trailer has been cut to look like a film from the 1940s"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:02:09 · unknown (host) (0.30)] The Killer ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · craft · The speaker listened to the Dragon Tattoo score while reading the comic because The Killer score was not out. · "it's not out there, so I just listened Dragon Tattoo."
[The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:22:52 · Adam Nayman (0.70)] The Cable Guy ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The TV-character aliases gag was already a joke in The Cable Guy (50s characters there, 70s and 80s here). · "that was a joke of the cable guy just to give credit where it's to."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:13:02 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Ren Klyce ↔ Mank · craft · The Killer's sound designer also did Mank; the speaker talked to him for both. · "Talk to him too for Mank."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 0:52:03 · unknown (0.30)] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · craft · The Swedish version is a near one-to-one transposition with no act structure; Fincher's feels dramatic. · "the Swedish one is almost so one-to-one that it has no ax structure."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:12:09 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Killer (graphic novel) ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The film takes almost everything from the first 200-odd pages of the comic; the series ran on to 2018. · "it feels like everything from the movie is basically taken from the 1st 200 some odd pages"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Mank · 1:10:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Citizen Kane ↔ Mank · craft · Like Citizen Kane, Mank has a complicated relationship to its lead; Mank mirrors the attitude of the man himself. · "Yeah, as much as Citizen Kane, the movie has a very complicated relationship to its lead character."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 1:11:05 · unknown (0.30)] Sven Nykvist ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the maker said so) · craft · Someone on the shoot (Fincher, or the DP by the garbled name) wanted a Sven Nykvist look: warm fires, cold rooms. · "I wanted to do a whole Sven Nikfist thing"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:17:31 · unknown (host) (0.30)] Panic Room ↔ The Killer · lineage · Panic Room was loaded with everything; The Killer strips a genre down. · "even when he's making something like panic room that's a bit of a genre riff"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Mank · 2:03:48 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Lost Weekend ⇒ Mank (the host's read) · craft · The election-night drunk sequence in Mank is called self-consciously reminiscent of The Lost Weekend. · "almost self-consciously reminiscent of the last the lost weekend"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · 1:11:51 · unknown (0.30)] Lola Visual Effects ↔ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · craft · Lola tracked a hair gap into reshot footage. · "So Lola, the special effects house, who's like one of the best, they do like all the de-aging, they're like top level."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:27:27 · unknown (host) (0.30)] The Killer (graphic novel) ⇒ The Killer (the maker said so: interviews (Fincher 'gave some interviewers')) · lineage · Fincher told interviewers he was adapting a French graphic novel about an assassin that he had always liked. · "he gave some interviewers, like, we're working on this Chinatown thing, and then he was like, I'm also playing with adapting this French graphic novel about the assassin that I've always liked."
[speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
[speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)

Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with Mindhunter (2017); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend Mindhunter (2017) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.

Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.

You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.

Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.