What the corpus says about Rocky II (1979)
The 36 lines php artisan corpus:ask hands a model, in the order it gets them, and nothing else.
The model writes a clerk's answer from these and only these.
What was said about it (4)
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 1:44:48 · Bill Simmons (0.45)] Rocky ↔ Rocky II · programming · Best double feature: go right from Rocky into Rocky 2 and skip the Adrian coma stretch. · "I think you have to go right from here into the 2nd one."
- [Blank Check · The Color of Money · 1:06:13 · unknown (0.30)] The Color of Money ↔ Rocky II · lineage · The original Tevis-based script, a two-hander with Fats in Florida, would have been more by-the-book, like Rocky II or Creed II. · "It's more going by the book, right? It's like Rocky 2."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 1:00:41 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] The Natural ↔ Rocky II · craft · Hospital-bound pacing in The Natural echoes the biggest flaw of Rocky II. · "This is the biggest flaw on Rocky 2."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 1:51:56 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] Rocky ↔ Rocky II · verdict · Rocky 2 is a continuation of the first, which is just superior. · "3 is the Rocky, the Leap of the Rocky franchise, 2 is like a continuation of one and one is just superior."
Films put beside it more than once (1)
- [pairs] Rocky II ↔ Rocky · said 2 times in 1 episode
Fun items about it (1)
- [The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · 0:45:54 · Stephen Merchant (0.95)] Rocky II · fun · Merchant's pick of the Rockys. · "I'm I'm very partial to Rocky 2."
One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (24)
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 1:44:35 · Van Lathan (0.45)] Rocky ↔ Raging Bull · programming · Another double-feature choice, Raging Bull, picked by one host. · "I go Raging Bull."
- [Blank Check · The Color of Money · 0:13:06 · unknown (0.30)] The Hustler ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read) · lineage · The Color of Money is the sequel to The Hustler, but built from a new script that keeps only the title of the Tevis sequel novel. · "Even when they start developing scripts and go, like, throw all that out, start fresh, they kept writing in parts from Minnesota fats."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 1:46:33 · Bill Simmons (0.90)] The Natural ↔ Major League · programming · Major League and Field of Dreams are the next two Rewatchables. · "we're going to be doing Major League and Field of Dreams over the next couple weeks."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 1:44:41 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Rocky ↔ Saturday Night Fever · programming · Watching Rocky made Chris Ryan want to watch Saturday Night Fever as a double feature. · "This movie made me want to watch Saturday Night Fever for some reason."
- [Blank Check · The Color of Money · 0:20:34 · David Sims (0.55)] The Color of Money ↔ Return to Oz · lineage · Reddit consensus calls Color of Money the first legacy sequel, with Return to Oz as a debated earlier candidate dismissed as too weird. · "Uh, color money is generally agreed to on to be the 1st legacy sequel. Some people are like, does return to Oz count?"
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 1:46:38 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] The Natural ↔ Bull Durham · programming · Bull Durham is being saved for a magical time (heard as Boulder). · "Boulder, we're saving for when it's a really magical time."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 1:50:04 · Bill Simmons (0.40)] Rocky ↔ Warrior · programming · If you did a UFC Rocky, Warrior is by far the best UFC movie so far. · "Warriors by far the best one."
- [Blank Check · The Color of Money · 0:20:55 · unknown (0.30)] The Color of Money ↔ Dawn of the Dead · lineage · Another early sequel candidate that shares no characters, just a long gap and iconography. · "Dawn of the Dead kind of counts because it was a long, like, weight. between movies that like they don't have the same characters."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:10:12 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Natural ↔ Field of Dreams · lineage · The Natural's ending, a catch with your son, echoes the wheat-field catch in Field of Dreams. · "And the concept of when I have a son someday will have a catch and then we'll be playing in the backyard."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 0:05:47 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Rocky ⇒ (the modern sports movie) (the host's read) · lineage · Rocky created the sports-movie prototype and the modern underdog. · "created the sports movie prototype, like just period."
- [Blank Check · The Color of Money · 1:07:05 · David Sims (0.40)] The Color of Money ⇒ Top Gun: Maverick (the host's read) · lineage · Gap-based legacy sequels like Top Gun Maverick, Tron Legacy and Blade Runner follow the template Color of Money invented, though in 1986 sequels were derided. · "now we get more and more like your your Tron legacies and your Top Gun Mavericks, where it's just casually... 37, 40 years later"
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:13:28 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Bernard Malamud ⇒ The Natural (the host's read) · lineage · The film is adapted from his 1952 novel, but its ending is very different. · "Written in 1952 by Bernard Malamud."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 0:06:09 · Chris Ryan (0.45)] The Longest Yard ⇒ Rocky (the host's read) · lineage · Longest Yard arguably started the big-event beats, but Rocky is what made the sports-movie recipe stick. · "which I guess you could say longest yard started it, but once Rocky did this."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ · 0:44:53 · Chris Ryan (0.65)] The Hustler ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read) · lineage · The mentoring conversation Newman has with Vince and Carmen mirrors the one George C. Scott has with Newman in The Hustler; both films also go on the road. · "that's basically the George C. Scott has the same conversation with Paul Newman and the Hustler."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:13:33 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Eddie Waitkus ⇒ The Natural (the host's read) · lineage · The novel borrowed from the 1949 shooting of Eddie Waitkus of the Phillies. · "Borrowed from this bizarre shooting of Eddie Waitkiss in 1949 in the Phillies"
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 0:10:16 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Rocky ↔ Mean Streets · lineage · Rocky is essentially Stallone making Mean Streets. · "It's essentially like Stallone making mean streets."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ · 0:45:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Hustler ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read) · lineage · Newman's Eddie Felson in 1986 becomes the George C. Scott hustler-mentor character of the original, and the sequel answers rather than remakes it. · "the Newman character in the color of money becomes the George C. Scott character in the Hustler."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:14:00 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Shoeless Joe Jackson ⇒ The Natural (the host's read) · lineage · The book's ending, with a boy saying it ain't true, Roy, is a clear Shoeless Joe Jackson rip-off. · "which is a clear shoeless Joe Jackson, rip off thing."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 0:11:32 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Rocky ⇒ The Karate Kid (the host's read) · lineage · Rocky is eight years before Karate Kid, which is called the 2.0 version of the same underdog story but a completely different movie in every respect. · "We're 8 years away from karate kid, which is the next, the 2.0 version of this movie."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ · 0:45:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Hustler ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read) · lineage · Newman getting drunk and hustled by Amos is the first time he plays the Jackie Gleason role of the original, drunk and overconfident. · "it's basically the 1st time he plays Jackie Gleason and the hustler where he's just like wasted and thinks he's going to win and then gets gets hustled."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:14:21 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] The Odyssey (Homer) ⇒ The Natural (the host's read) · lineage · The movie maps onto Homer: Roy is Odysseus, Harriet and Memo play siren/Calypso figures, Iris is Penelope. · "So basically it's Roy Hobbs is Odysseus."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 0:28:11 · Chris Ryan (0.45)] Rocky ⇒ Cinderella Man (the host's read) · lineage · Rocky set up the idea that a victory transforms the supporting cast too, as in Cinderella Man where he fights for Giamatti. · "by the time you get to like Cinderella man, you realize that he's not just fighting for him, he's fighting for Giamatti."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ · 0:52:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Hustler ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read) · lineage · The film is theoretically based on Walter Tevis's follow-up novel to The Hustler but has almost nothing to do with it; Minnesota Fats was in the novel. · "this is theoretically based on Walter Tevis's follow-up novel to the Hustler, but the movie has almost nothing to do with the novel"
- [The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:16:36 · Mallory Rubin (0.80)] The Natural ↔ Arthurian legend · lineage · Roy is king, Wonderboy is Excalibur; the Fisher King, Percival and the Grail also fit. · "Wonder Boy is Excalibur."
Who said it, by their latest sketch (3)
- [speaker] Bill Simmons · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Loves the Friday series as a communal, rental-era memory and tells childhood stories about the ads and theaters. Likes casting what-ifs and sports analogies for everything. Skeptical of horror at Christmas and of anything that wastes the premise. · stances: Friday the 13th is not the best entry but the origin story had to be told; Friday 2 is a leap over the original
- [speaker] Chris Ryan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · A franchise and genre scholar who likes Jason, the early sequels, and Manhattan; attention to trivia, tropes and critic reception. Treats slashers as a canon with tiers. · stances: Parts 1, 2, 4 and Manhattan are the good ones; The series finds its legs at 4
- [speaker] Stephen Merchant · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · A former film critic with very broad taste, from Fellini and Antonioni to Predator and Die Hard, and loves Rocky (especially Rocky 2), musicals, and grittier-than-remembered classics like Saturday Night Fever. Admires craft and performance skill, and is wary of mocking subject matter. · stances: Wrestling was a late conversion; he came to respect the performance craft; Make it work for non-fans, like Rocky or Billy Elliot; Simplify the source rather than serve every fan; Success in one thing does not open every door
The shows' running bits (3)
- [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
- [bits] Blank Check: The box office game (Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against); The sung theme ("Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it)
- [bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)
The whole prompt
As the model gets it, from app/Ai/Prompts/CorpusAsk.md
You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished Rocky II (1979) and wants to know what to watch next.
Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about Rocky II (1979) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.
[The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 1:44:48 · Bill Simmons (0.45)] Rocky ↔ Rocky II · programming · Best double feature: go right from Rocky into Rocky 2 and skip the Adrian coma stretch. · "I think you have to go right from here into the 2nd one."
[Blank Check · The Color of Money · 1:06:13 · unknown (0.30)] The Color of Money ↔ Rocky II · lineage · The original Tevis-based script, a two-hander with Fats in Florida, would have been more by-the-book, like Rocky II or Creed II. · "It's more going by the book, right? It's like Rocky 2."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 1:00:41 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] The Natural ↔ Rocky II · craft · Hospital-bound pacing in The Natural echoes the biggest flaw of Rocky II. · "This is the biggest flaw on Rocky 2."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 1:51:56 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] Rocky ↔ Rocky II · verdict · Rocky 2 is a continuation of the first, which is just superior. · "3 is the Rocky, the Leap of the Rocky franchise, 2 is like a continuation of one and one is just superior."
[pairs] Rocky II ↔ Rocky · said 2 times in 1 episode
[The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · 0:45:54 · Stephen Merchant (0.95)] Rocky II · fun · Merchant's pick of the Rockys. · "I'm I'm very partial to Rocky 2."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 1:44:35 · Van Lathan (0.45)] Rocky ↔ Raging Bull · programming · Another double-feature choice, Raging Bull, picked by one host. · "I go Raging Bull."
[Blank Check · The Color of Money · 0:13:06 · unknown (0.30)] The Hustler ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read) · lineage · The Color of Money is the sequel to The Hustler, but built from a new script that keeps only the title of the Tevis sequel novel. · "Even when they start developing scripts and go, like, throw all that out, start fresh, they kept writing in parts from Minnesota fats."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 1:46:33 · Bill Simmons (0.90)] The Natural ↔ Major League · programming · Major League and Field of Dreams are the next two Rewatchables. · "we're going to be doing Major League and Field of Dreams over the next couple weeks."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 1:44:41 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Rocky ↔ Saturday Night Fever · programming · Watching Rocky made Chris Ryan want to watch Saturday Night Fever as a double feature. · "This movie made me want to watch Saturday Night Fever for some reason."
[Blank Check · The Color of Money · 0:20:34 · David Sims (0.55)] The Color of Money ↔ Return to Oz · lineage · Reddit consensus calls Color of Money the first legacy sequel, with Return to Oz as a debated earlier candidate dismissed as too weird. · "Uh, color money is generally agreed to on to be the 1st legacy sequel. Some people are like, does return to Oz count?"
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 1:46:38 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] The Natural ↔ Bull Durham · programming · Bull Durham is being saved for a magical time (heard as Boulder). · "Boulder, we're saving for when it's a really magical time."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 1:50:04 · Bill Simmons (0.40)] Rocky ↔ Warrior · programming · If you did a UFC Rocky, Warrior is by far the best UFC movie so far. · "Warriors by far the best one."
[Blank Check · The Color of Money · 0:20:55 · unknown (0.30)] The Color of Money ↔ Dawn of the Dead · lineage · Another early sequel candidate that shares no characters, just a long gap and iconography. · "Dawn of the Dead kind of counts because it was a long, like, weight. between movies that like they don't have the same characters."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:10:12 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Natural ↔ Field of Dreams · lineage · The Natural's ending, a catch with your son, echoes the wheat-field catch in Field of Dreams. · "And the concept of when I have a son someday will have a catch and then we'll be playing in the backyard."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 0:05:47 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Rocky ⇒ (the modern sports movie) (the host's read) · lineage · Rocky created the sports-movie prototype and the modern underdog. · "created the sports movie prototype, like just period."
[Blank Check · The Color of Money · 1:07:05 · David Sims (0.40)] The Color of Money ⇒ Top Gun: Maverick (the host's read) · lineage · Gap-based legacy sequels like Top Gun Maverick, Tron Legacy and Blade Runner follow the template Color of Money invented, though in 1986 sequels were derided. · "now we get more and more like your your Tron legacies and your Top Gun Mavericks, where it's just casually... 37, 40 years later"
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:13:28 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Bernard Malamud ⇒ The Natural (the host's read) · lineage · The film is adapted from his 1952 novel, but its ending is very different. · "Written in 1952 by Bernard Malamud."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 0:06:09 · Chris Ryan (0.45)] The Longest Yard ⇒ Rocky (the host's read) · lineage · Longest Yard arguably started the big-event beats, but Rocky is what made the sports-movie recipe stick. · "which I guess you could say longest yard started it, but once Rocky did this."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ · 0:44:53 · Chris Ryan (0.65)] The Hustler ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read) · lineage · The mentoring conversation Newman has with Vince and Carmen mirrors the one George C. Scott has with Newman in The Hustler; both films also go on the road. · "that's basically the George C. Scott has the same conversation with Paul Newman and the Hustler."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:13:33 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Eddie Waitkus ⇒ The Natural (the host's read) · lineage · The novel borrowed from the 1949 shooting of Eddie Waitkus of the Phillies. · "Borrowed from this bizarre shooting of Eddie Waitkiss in 1949 in the Phillies"
[The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 0:10:16 · Chris Ryan (0.40)] Rocky ↔ Mean Streets · lineage · Rocky is essentially Stallone making Mean Streets. · "It's essentially like Stallone making mean streets."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ · 0:45:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Hustler ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read) · lineage · Newman's Eddie Felson in 1986 becomes the George C. Scott hustler-mentor character of the original, and the sequel answers rather than remakes it. · "the Newman character in the color of money becomes the George C. Scott character in the Hustler."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:14:00 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Shoeless Joe Jackson ⇒ The Natural (the host's read) · lineage · The book's ending, with a boy saying it ain't true, Roy, is a clear Shoeless Joe Jackson rip-off. · "which is a clear shoeless Joe Jackson, rip off thing."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 0:11:32 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Rocky ⇒ The Karate Kid (the host's read) · lineage · Rocky is eight years before Karate Kid, which is called the 2.0 version of the same underdog story but a completely different movie in every respect. · "We're 8 years away from karate kid, which is the next, the 2.0 version of this movie."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ · 0:45:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Hustler ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read) · lineage · Newman getting drunk and hustled by Amos is the first time he plays the Jackie Gleason role of the original, drunk and overconfident. · "it's basically the 1st time he plays Jackie Gleason and the hustler where he's just like wasted and thinks he's going to win and then gets gets hustled."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:14:21 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] The Odyssey (Homer) ⇒ The Natural (the host's read) · lineage · The movie maps onto Homer: Roy is Odysseus, Harriet and Memo play siren/Calypso figures, Iris is Penelope. · "So basically it's Roy Hobbs is Odysseus."
[The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ · 0:28:11 · Chris Ryan (0.45)] Rocky ⇒ Cinderella Man (the host's read) · lineage · Rocky set up the idea that a victory transforms the supporting cast too, as in Cinderella Man where he fights for Giamatti. · "by the time you get to like Cinderella man, you realize that he's not just fighting for him, he's fighting for Giamatti."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ · 0:52:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Hustler ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read) · lineage · The film is theoretically based on Walter Tevis's follow-up novel to The Hustler but has almost nothing to do with it; Minnesota Fats was in the novel. · "this is theoretically based on Walter Tevis's follow-up novel to the Hustler, but the movie has almost nothing to do with the novel"
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ · 0:16:36 · Mallory Rubin (0.80)] The Natural ↔ Arthurian legend · lineage · Roy is king, Wonderboy is Excalibur; the Fisher King, Percival and the Grail also fit. · "Wonder Boy is Excalibur."
[speaker] Bill Simmons · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Loves the Friday series as a communal, rental-era memory and tells childhood stories about the ads and theaters. Likes casting what-ifs and sports analogies for everything. Skeptical of horror at Christmas and of anything that wastes the premise. · stances: Friday the 13th is not the best entry but the origin story had to be told; Friday 2 is a leap over the original
[speaker] Chris Ryan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · A franchise and genre scholar who likes Jason, the early sequels, and Manhattan; attention to trivia, tropes and critic reception. Treats slashers as a canon with tiers. · stances: Parts 1, 2, 4 and Manhattan are the good ones; The series finds its legs at 4
[speaker] Stephen Merchant · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · A former film critic with very broad taste, from Fellini and Antonioni to Predator and Die Hard, and loves Rocky (especially Rocky 2), musicals, and grittier-than-remembered classics like Saturday Night Fever. Admires craft and performance skill, and is wary of mocking subject matter. · stances: Wrestling was a late conversion; he came to respect the performance craft; Make it work for non-fans, like Rocky or Billy Elliot; Simplify the source rather than serve every fan; Success in one thing does not open every door
[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
[bits] Blank Check: The box office game (Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against); The sung theme ("Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it)
[bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)
Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with Rocky II (1979); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend Rocky II (1979) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.
Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.
You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.
Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.