What the corpus says about The Ice Storm (1997)

The 53 lines php artisan corpus:ask hands a model, in the order it gets them, and nothing else. The model writes a clerk's answer from these and only these.

What was said about it (26)

  1. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:50:18 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] The Ice Storm ⇒ Swingtown (TV) (the host's read) · programming · Swingtown tried to tap the key party idea but belonged on Cinemax. · "That show has to be on Cinemax."
  2. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 1:09:25 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Brokeback Mountain ↔ The Ice Storm · programming · Simmons eyes Brokeback Mountain as a contender for Fucked Up Family February 2023. · "Brokeback Mountain is definitely one of the contenders."
  3. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 1:26:54 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Ice Storm ↔ The Squid and the Whale · programming · Fennessey says Squid and the Whale was the biggest near-miss for Fucked Up Family February. · "I think was probably the biggest one that could have made it."
  4. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 1:27:53 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Ice Storm ↔ Pulp Fiction · programming · Next episodes will cover two famous movies; Ryan and Simmons tease Pulp Fiction. · "I've been watching a lot of pulp fiction lately."
  5. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 1:07:49 · unknown (0.40)] Swingtown (TV) ↔ The Ice Storm · programming · CBS's Swingtown was a third of the way to interesting and watered the key-party era down. · "Wasn't that good, but it was sort of like a 3rd of the way to being interesting."
  6. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:12:44 · Bill Simmons (0.90)] The Brady Bunch Movie ⇒ The Ice Storm (the host's read) · lineage · Simmons traces a mid-90s wave of 70s nostalgia (Brady Bunch movies, Reality Bites) that led to harder looks like Ice Storm. · "They make the Brady Bunch movie, which is a parody of the Brady Bunch."
  7. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:13:48 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm ↔ Nixon · lineage · Simmons says the nostalgia turned to re-examination in the mid-90s, citing Oliver Stone's Nixon. · "So mid 90s, it starts to be like, hmm."
  8. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:14:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] The Ice Storm ↔ Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice · lineage · Fennessey pairs the 1969 Mazursky satire of the early sexual revolution with Ice Storm, which comes at the end of that era. · "I think there's a really interesting movie to pair this movie with that's called Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice."
  9. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:15:44 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm ↔ The Doors · lineage · Simmons ties The Doors (1991) to the era of re-examining 60s and 70s figures in the most fun way. · "the doors, which we did in the rewatchables, that came out like 91"
  10. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:14:22 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Ice Storm ↔ Freaks and Geeks · lineage · Recognizing the Ice Storm as a 40-something's nostalgia piece led to the same realization with Freaks and Geeks. · "the next thing I remember thinking that about and having that realization about was, uh, was freaks and geeks."
  11. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:14:40 · unknown (0.40)] The Ice Storm ↔ Landline · lineage · The nostalgia wave moves a decade at a time: Landline is our generation's Ice Storm. · "You get landline, which is our generation, the ice storm."
  12. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:26:19 · Emily Yoshida (0.75)] The Ice Storm ↔ Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice · lineage · Emily watched Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice as a companion piece to The Ice Storm. · "this relates to another movie I watched kind of as a companion piece to Ice Storm"
  13. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:35:56 · David Sims (0.55)] The Ice Storm ↔ Hulk · lineage · After loving Hulk, a host went back to the Lee filmography and read The Ice Storm as the family psychodrama behind it. · "And then this movie is like, oh, here's all the weird family psychodrama, which is already contextualized through the Marvel Comics prism."
  14. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 1:17:11 · unknown (0.40)] The Ice Storm ↔ American Beauty · lineage · The Ice Storm teens read as younger versions of Thora Birch and Wes Bentley in American Beauty. · "these characters are like just the younger versions of Thorpe, Birch, and West Bentley and American beauty."
  15. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:10:48 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Ice Storm ↔ JFK · theme · Ryan asks whether decades had to pass before America could tell the story, as Simmons said about Oliver Stone's JFK. · "when we did the JFK pod, you talked a little bit about needing some time to go by for America to be ready to hear about that story"
  16. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:16:54 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm ↔ Mad Men · theme · Kevin Kline's out-of-step character parallels late-series Don Draper, uncool as the 70s change. · "that's basically the Kevin Klein character in this, right?"
  17. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:17:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Ice Storm ↔ The Brady Bunch Movie · theme · Fennessey says the Brady Bunch movie made subtext into text, while Ice Storm stays subtext. · "did take that subtext and make it text."
  18. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:28:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Ice Storm ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · theme · Fennessey places the film between Deep Throat (1972) and Texas Chain Saw (1974) as culture coarsened after Watergate. · "This movie takes place right in between those 2 things."
  19. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:36:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Ice Storm ↔ Brokeback Mountain · theme · The shared superpower is what is unsaid between characters; in both, characters feel lonely even with their partners. · "This movie is all about what is unsaid between characters."
  20. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:38:30 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] The Ice Storm ↔ Kramer vs. Kramer · theme · Both belong to Fucked Up Family February and trade on unspoken tension rather than action. · "We were talking about last week with Kramer versus Kramer"
  21. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:48:57 · Chris Ryan (0.60)] The Ice Storm ↔ Basic Instinct · theme · Ryan says mass media (Basic Instinct) taught him about sex, like the kids learning from TV in this film. · "mass media had taught me like the basic instinct and whatnot had taught me everything I needed to know."
  22. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:10:11 · Emily Yoshida (0.90)] The Ice Storm ↔ Annihilation · theme · Emily says her teenage Ice Storm essay and her recent Annihilation essay reach the same conclusion. · "So now I'm, I'm, I'm riding the, the ice storm is annihilation chip"
  23. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:10:40 · David Sims (0.45)] The Ice Storm ↔ Annihilation · theme · Emily and a host independently landed on the two films as the best visualizations of depression. · "I think they're 2 of the films that best visualized depression."
  24. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:38:07 · Griffin Newman (0.55)] The Ice Storm ↔ Fantastic Four · theme · The Ice Storm's families map onto the Fantastic Four, with Joan Allen as Invisible Woman and Kevin Kline as Mr. Fantastic. · "No, yeah, no, Joan Allen is Invisible Woman, and Kevin Klein is fucking Mr. Fate Desk."
  25. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:21:05 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm ↔ Jaws · craft · Simmons says the key party became the movie's marketing hook, like the shark in Jaws. · "it's kind of became like Jaws where it's like, 0 my god, what's this thing going to look like?"
  26. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:35:35 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm ↔ Brokeback Mountain · craft · Simmons says the two films share a vibe: sparse dialogue and the way Lee advances story and sets scenery. · "They have no relation to each other at all."

Films put beside it more than once (6)

  1. [pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ Annihilation · said 4 times in 1 episode
  2. [pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ Sense and Sensibility · said 3 times in 2 episodes
  3. [pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ Swingtown (TV) · said 3 times in 2 episodes
  4. [pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ Brokeback Mountain · said 3 times in 1 episode
  5. [pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice · said 2 times in 2 episodes
  6. [pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ American Beauty · said 2 times in 2 episodes

Fun items about it (6)

  1. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:03:10 · Bill Simmons (0.90)] The Ice Storm · fun · Simmons says there is hardly any rewatchable scene beyond the key party; it works as a whole. · "There's really almost no rewatchable scenes other than, um, other than the key party."
  2. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:07:18 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm · fun · The key party was the sales hook of the film, but the last 25 minutes feel like a drill to the head. · "The last 25 minutes is like being, uh, having a drill put to the side of your head."
  3. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:08:01 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Ice Storm · fun · Structure: crosscutting among three storylines makes it a poem rather than short stories. · "it's more of like a poem than it is short stories, right?"
  4. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:10:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Ice Storm · fun · Ryan loves the film's dark, funny undercurrent: it is a satire with tragedy. · "It's got a really dark, funny undercurrent to it that you kind of have to give yourself over to."
  5. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:17:35 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Ice Storm · fun · Fennessey notes the opening reading of the Fantastic Four as nearly announcing its theme: four family members at the end. · "you have a character open the movie reading the Fantastic Four."
  6. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:18:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] The Ice Storm · fun · The kids' trance in front of the television shows mass media taking over minds. · "the hypnotic power of television."

One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (7)

  1. [Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 1:46:30 · David Ehrlich (0.35)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Brokeback Mountain · lineage · CTHD as the first of Lee's 'fuck mountain diptych' of transgressive sex movies, with Brokeback. · "This is the 1st of Angley's fuck mountain diptych."
  2. [The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:10:10 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50)] Sense and Sensibility ↔ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse · programming · The 2019 swap pairing Spider-Verse and Sense and Sensibility taught Amanda how she watches animation and became a reference for later animated films. · "it taught me a lot about how I watch animation, what I respond to"
  3. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 1:08:02 · unknown (0.40)] Pan Am (TV) ↔ Swingtown (TV) · programming · Pan Am, the Ricci show, is another version of Swingtown's period-swing idea. · "Which is Pan M, the Christina Ricci show is another version of the same."
  4. [Blank Check — Patreon · Hanging Up · 1:35:05 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Hanging Up ↔ American Beauty · theme · Early 2000 cinema, Hanging Up included, reflected pre-9/11 confidence that would not last. · "And like, you're not going to make a movie like this a few years later."
  5. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:10:05 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Ang Lee ↔ Brokeback Mountain · craft · Lee is a master of teleporting into new worlds; Brokeback is the other proof. · "Brokeback Mountain, and, you know, many times over the years that he is a master of like teleporting into new worlds every time he makes a film."
  6. [Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:30:13 · David Ehrlich (0.45)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Sense and Sensibility · theme · Ang Lee's bottled-emotion movies; CTHD as Sense and Sensibility with a magic sword. · "This is one of his great bottled emotion movies, which is like a big running theme for people who don't know how to express those. Sensibility with a magic sword."
  7. [Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:37:29 · Griffin Newman (0.30)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Sense and Sensibility · theme · After 15 minutes the movie goes full Jane Austen. · "But like 15 minutes later, when the movie goes full, Jane Austen"

Who said it, by their latest sketch (6)

  1. [speaker] Bill Simmons · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Loves the Friday series as a communal, rental-era memory and tells childhood stories about the ads and theaters. Likes casting what-ifs and sports analogies for everything. Skeptical of horror at Christmas and of anything that wastes the premise. · stances: Friday the 13th is not the best entry but the origin story had to be told; Friday 2 is a leap over the original
  2. [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
  3. [speaker] Chris Ryan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · A franchise and genre scholar who likes Jason, the early sequels, and Manhattan; attention to trivia, tropes and critic reception. Treats slashers as a canon with tiers. · stances: Parts 1, 2, 4 and Manhattan are the good ones; The series finds its legs at 4
  4. [speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
  5. [speaker] Emily Yoshida · latest sketch, Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · Wrote her UCLA essay on The Ice Storm and loves Annihilation; fixated on cold, sound, and depression on screen. Has real gripes: the curled-up Weaver shot, and underplayed child deaths. A sucker for Ricci and Wood. · stances: Ice Storm is Annihilation (the ice storm is the Shimmer); Dislikes underplayed child death on film; Questions the movie's impulse to punish Weaver's character
  6. [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases

The shows' running bits (2)

  1. [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
  2. [bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)

The whole prompt

As the model gets it, from app/Ai/Prompts/CorpusAsk.md 
You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished The Ice Storm (1997) and wants to know what to watch next.

Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about The Ice Storm (1997) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.

[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:50:18 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] The Ice Storm ⇒ Swingtown (TV) (the host's read) · programming · Swingtown tried to tap the key party idea but belonged on Cinemax. · "That show has to be on Cinemax."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 1:09:25 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Brokeback Mountain ↔ The Ice Storm · programming · Simmons eyes Brokeback Mountain as a contender for Fucked Up Family February 2023. · "Brokeback Mountain is definitely one of the contenders."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 1:26:54 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Ice Storm ↔ The Squid and the Whale · programming · Fennessey says Squid and the Whale was the biggest near-miss for Fucked Up Family February. · "I think was probably the biggest one that could have made it."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 1:27:53 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] The Ice Storm ↔ Pulp Fiction · programming · Next episodes will cover two famous movies; Ryan and Simmons tease Pulp Fiction. · "I've been watching a lot of pulp fiction lately."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 1:07:49 · unknown (0.40)] Swingtown (TV) ↔ The Ice Storm · programming · CBS's Swingtown was a third of the way to interesting and watered the key-party era down. · "Wasn't that good, but it was sort of like a 3rd of the way to being interesting."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:12:44 · Bill Simmons (0.90)] The Brady Bunch Movie ⇒ The Ice Storm (the host's read) · lineage · Simmons traces a mid-90s wave of 70s nostalgia (Brady Bunch movies, Reality Bites) that led to harder looks like Ice Storm. · "They make the Brady Bunch movie, which is a parody of the Brady Bunch."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:13:48 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm ↔ Nixon · lineage · Simmons says the nostalgia turned to re-examination in the mid-90s, citing Oliver Stone's Nixon. · "So mid 90s, it starts to be like, hmm."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:14:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] The Ice Storm ↔ Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice · lineage · Fennessey pairs the 1969 Mazursky satire of the early sexual revolution with Ice Storm, which comes at the end of that era. · "I think there's a really interesting movie to pair this movie with that's called Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:15:44 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm ↔ The Doors · lineage · Simmons ties The Doors (1991) to the era of re-examining 60s and 70s figures in the most fun way. · "the doors, which we did in the rewatchables, that came out like 91"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:14:22 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Ice Storm ↔ Freaks and Geeks · lineage · Recognizing the Ice Storm as a 40-something's nostalgia piece led to the same realization with Freaks and Geeks. · "the next thing I remember thinking that about and having that realization about was, uh, was freaks and geeks."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:14:40 · unknown (0.40)] The Ice Storm ↔ Landline · lineage · The nostalgia wave moves a decade at a time: Landline is our generation's Ice Storm. · "You get landline, which is our generation, the ice storm."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:26:19 · Emily Yoshida (0.75)] The Ice Storm ↔ Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice · lineage · Emily watched Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice as a companion piece to The Ice Storm. · "this relates to another movie I watched kind of as a companion piece to Ice Storm"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:35:56 · David Sims (0.55)] The Ice Storm ↔ Hulk · lineage · After loving Hulk, a host went back to the Lee filmography and read The Ice Storm as the family psychodrama behind it. · "And then this movie is like, oh, here's all the weird family psychodrama, which is already contextualized through the Marvel Comics prism."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 1:17:11 · unknown (0.40)] The Ice Storm ↔ American Beauty · lineage · The Ice Storm teens read as younger versions of Thora Birch and Wes Bentley in American Beauty. · "these characters are like just the younger versions of Thorpe, Birch, and West Bentley and American beauty."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:10:48 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Ice Storm ↔ JFK · theme · Ryan asks whether decades had to pass before America could tell the story, as Simmons said about Oliver Stone's JFK. · "when we did the JFK pod, you talked a little bit about needing some time to go by for America to be ready to hear about that story"
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:16:54 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm ↔ Mad Men · theme · Kevin Kline's out-of-step character parallels late-series Don Draper, uncool as the 70s change. · "that's basically the Kevin Klein character in this, right?"
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:17:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Ice Storm ↔ The Brady Bunch Movie · theme · Fennessey says the Brady Bunch movie made subtext into text, while Ice Storm stays subtext. · "did take that subtext and make it text."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:28:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Ice Storm ↔ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · theme · Fennessey places the film between Deep Throat (1972) and Texas Chain Saw (1974) as culture coarsened after Watergate. · "This movie takes place right in between those 2 things."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:36:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Ice Storm ↔ Brokeback Mountain · theme · The shared superpower is what is unsaid between characters; in both, characters feel lonely even with their partners. · "This movie is all about what is unsaid between characters."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:38:30 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] The Ice Storm ↔ Kramer vs. Kramer · theme · Both belong to Fucked Up Family February and trade on unspoken tension rather than action. · "We were talking about last week with Kramer versus Kramer"
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:48:57 · Chris Ryan (0.60)] The Ice Storm ↔ Basic Instinct · theme · Ryan says mass media (Basic Instinct) taught him about sex, like the kids learning from TV in this film. · "mass media had taught me like the basic instinct and whatnot had taught me everything I needed to know."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:10:11 · Emily Yoshida (0.90)] The Ice Storm ↔ Annihilation · theme · Emily says her teenage Ice Storm essay and her recent Annihilation essay reach the same conclusion. · "So now I'm, I'm, I'm riding the, the ice storm is annihilation chip"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:10:40 · David Sims (0.45)] The Ice Storm ↔ Annihilation · theme · Emily and a host independently landed on the two films as the best visualizations of depression. · "I think they're 2 of the films that best visualized depression."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:38:07 · Griffin Newman (0.55)] The Ice Storm ↔ Fantastic Four · theme · The Ice Storm's families map onto the Fantastic Four, with Joan Allen as Invisible Woman and Kevin Kline as Mr. Fantastic. · "No, yeah, no, Joan Allen is Invisible Woman, and Kevin Klein is fucking Mr. Fate Desk."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:21:05 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm ↔ Jaws · craft · Simmons says the key party became the movie's marketing hook, like the shark in Jaws. · "it's kind of became like Jaws where it's like, 0 my god, what's this thing going to look like?"
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:35:35 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm ↔ Brokeback Mountain · craft · Simmons says the two films share a vibe: sparse dialogue and the way Lee advances story and sets scenery. · "They have no relation to each other at all."
[pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ Annihilation · said 4 times in 1 episode
[pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ Sense and Sensibility · said 3 times in 2 episodes
[pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ Swingtown (TV) · said 3 times in 2 episodes
[pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ Brokeback Mountain · said 3 times in 1 episode
[pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice · said 2 times in 2 episodes
[pairs] The Ice Storm ↔ American Beauty · said 2 times in 2 episodes
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:03:10 · Bill Simmons (0.90)] The Ice Storm · fun · Simmons says there is hardly any rewatchable scene beyond the key party; it works as a whole. · "There's really almost no rewatchable scenes other than, um, other than the key party."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:07:18 · Bill Simmons (0.80)] The Ice Storm · fun · The key party was the sales hook of the film, but the last 25 minutes feel like a drill to the head. · "The last 25 minutes is like being, uh, having a drill put to the side of your head."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:08:01 · Chris Ryan (0.50)] The Ice Storm · fun · Structure: crosscutting among three storylines makes it a poem rather than short stories. · "it's more of like a poem than it is short stories, right?"
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:10:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Ice Storm · fun · Ryan loves the film's dark, funny undercurrent: it is a satire with tragedy. · "It's got a really dark, funny undercurrent to it that you kind of have to give yourself over to."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:17:35 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Ice Storm · fun · Fennessey notes the opening reading of the Fantastic Four as nearly announcing its theme: four family members at the end. · "you have a character open the movie reading the Fantastic Four."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:18:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] The Ice Storm · fun · The kids' trance in front of the television shows mass media taking over minds. · "the hypnotic power of television."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 1:46:30 · David Ehrlich (0.35)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Brokeback Mountain · lineage · CTHD as the first of Lee's 'fuck mountain diptych' of transgressive sex movies, with Brokeback. · "This is the 1st of Angley's fuck mountain diptych."
[The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:10:10 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50)] Sense and Sensibility ↔ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse · programming · The 2019 swap pairing Spider-Verse and Sense and Sensibility taught Amanda how she watches animation and became a reference for later animated films. · "it taught me a lot about how I watch animation, what I respond to"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 1:08:02 · unknown (0.40)] Pan Am (TV) ↔ Swingtown (TV) · programming · Pan Am, the Ricci show, is another version of Swingtown's period-swing idea. · "Which is Pan M, the Christina Ricci show is another version of the same."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Hanging Up · 1:35:05 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Hanging Up ↔ American Beauty · theme · Early 2000 cinema, Hanging Up included, reflected pre-9/11 confidence that would not last. · "And like, you're not going to make a movie like this a few years later."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:10:05 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Ang Lee ↔ Brokeback Mountain · craft · Lee is a master of teleporting into new worlds; Brokeback is the other proof. · "Brokeback Mountain, and, you know, many times over the years that he is a master of like teleporting into new worlds every time he makes a film."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:30:13 · David Ehrlich (0.45)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Sense and Sensibility · theme · Ang Lee's bottled-emotion movies; CTHD as Sense and Sensibility with a magic sword. · "This is one of his great bottled emotion movies, which is like a big running theme for people who don't know how to express those. Sensibility with a magic sword."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:37:29 · Griffin Newman (0.30)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Sense and Sensibility · theme · After 15 minutes the movie goes full Jane Austen. · "But like 15 minutes later, when the movie goes full, Jane Austen"
[speaker] Bill Simmons · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Loves the Friday series as a communal, rental-era memory and tells childhood stories about the ads and theaters. Likes casting what-ifs and sports analogies for everything. Skeptical of horror at Christmas and of anything that wastes the premise. · stances: Friday the 13th is not the best entry but the origin story had to be told; Friday 2 is a leap over the original
[speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
[speaker] Chris Ryan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · A franchise and genre scholar who likes Jason, the early sequels, and Manhattan; attention to trivia, tropes and critic reception. Treats slashers as a canon with tiers. · stances: Parts 1, 2, 4 and Manhattan are the good ones; The series finds its legs at 4
[speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
[speaker] Emily Yoshida · latest sketch, Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · Wrote her UCLA essay on The Ice Storm and loves Annihilation; fixated on cold, sound, and depression on screen. Has real gripes: the curled-up Weaver shot, and underplayed child deaths. A sucker for Ricci and Wood. · stances: Ice Storm is Annihilation (the ice storm is the Shimmer); Dislikes underplayed child death on film; Questions the movie's impulse to punish Weaver's character
[speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
[bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)

Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with The Ice Storm (1997); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend The Ice Storm (1997) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.

Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.

You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.

Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.