What the corpus says about Black Panther (2018)
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What was said about it (26)
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:49:22 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Black Panther looks like the best bet to carry the MCU into the next phase after Infinity War. · "Black Panther certainly looks to be the best bet to carry the series into phase four"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 0:25:32 · Griffin Newman (0.70)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Griffin loved Black Panther just before, then felt Infinity War was one Marvel movie too big. · "Having, you know, loved Black Panther, which came out right before this."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:17:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↔ Black Panther · lineage · The first film's theme was isolation versus justice (Killmonger vs. T'Challa); the sequel has a real-world theme too, about allyship between Latinx and Black communities, but is not done as well. · "his movies always have a big dynamic real world theme in them in a way that I don't think many Marvel movies do."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:27:32 · David Sims (0.40)] Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Black Panther (the host's read) · lineage · Vibranium, the shield metal, leads to Wakanda; adamantium is the X-Men analogue the MCU couldn't use. · "So instead they use vibranium as their super metal."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Internal Affairs’ · 1:35:07 · Van Lathan (0.35)] Black Panther ↔ Internal Affairs · theme · Peck is the man compared to Garcia, like a Killmonger thing: he talks shit to the very end. · "It's kind of like a whole, like, Black Panther, Killmonger thing, where you leave."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:32:14 · Van Lathan (0.85)] Black Panther ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read) · theme · Van explains that in the first film T'Challa saw his father on the ancestral plane because he had questions for him, while Shuri saw Killmonger because she wanted revenge, the same motive Killmonger had. · "Shuri did not want to be the Black Panther to protect Wakanda."
- [The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show · 0:23:11 · unknown (0.40)] Roma ↔ Black Panther · theme · Two Black Panther craft wins early made the night feel like one Hollywood, with Roma and Netflix bursting both. · "I was like, okay, the 2 Hollywoods, that's definitely the theme, but in the middle kind of bursting the two, is is Roma and Netflix"
- [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:53:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↔ Black Panther · craft · The first film lived in one coherent Wakanda look from Ruth Carter's costumes and the production design, while the sequel hops between many places and loses a single visual style. · "In this movie, we're in so many places, that ship at night, Riri's dorm room, Talakan, Everett Ross's jogging trip, his kitchen, the movie's just all over the place."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 2:03:09 · unknown (0.35)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · craft · Had Marvel known how big Black Panther would be, Shuri would not have been kept in one room. · "if they had known how big Black Panther was gonna be, they would not have kept Sherry in one room"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 2:03:48 · unknown (0.30)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · craft · A listener pointed out that Wakanda in Black Panther is an Atlanta parking lot on green screen, a source of local pride. · "clearly it is a parking lot in Atlanta that is green screen"
- [The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:43:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.45)] The Irishman ↔ Black Panther · contrast · Cultural interest in The Irishman may not match that of Black Panther. · "the sort of cultural interest in that movie is as high as it was in something like Black Panther."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · 0:22:34 · Micah Peters (0.85)] Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse ↔ Black Panther · contrast · Not the same cultural phenomenon as Black Panther, but strong on representation without feeling forced. · "it's not the same cultural phenomenon that Black Panther was."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:59:42 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Black Panther · contrast · Black Panther does Thor-style city-under-attack better than Asgard, which never reads as a city or a planet. · "You never really understand if Asgard is a city or a planet."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:47:38 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Thor ↔ Black Panther · contrast · Black Panther gives every ensemble member an inner life and a plot function; Thor's side characters like Volstagg and Sif do little. · "every single character has their own personality, their own internal conflict, but has like a very important plot function as well."
- [The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:04:44 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Joker ↔ Black Panther · industry · A Joker Best Picture win would follow Black Panther in the Academy honoring comic book movies. · "And it would be one year after Black Panther, which sort of ushered in."
- [The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:42:33 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Black Panther ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · industry · Last year's Oscar movies were mega hits; this year only Joker is. · "Last year, Bohemian Rhapsody, Star Is Born, Black Panther, that's as big as Oscar movies get."
- [The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show · 0:12:41 · unknown (0.40)] Black Panther ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · industry · Bohemian Rhapsody's swamping of the telecast is tied to its box office, with only Black Panther earning more. · "the only movie that made any money, except for Black Panther, which made more money"
- [The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show · 0:26:13 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45)] Roma ↔ Black Panther · industry · Voters resisted a Netflix film the way they resisted superhero movies for years. · "I do think at some point just people didn't want to vote for a Netflix film and in the same way that they didn't want to vote for a superhero movie for many years."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · 0:21:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Black Panther ↔ The Avengers cast · industry · Black Panther is a significant event, while the Avengers cast list is still a lot of Chrises. · "if you look down the cast list on the Avengers,"
- [The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · 0:30:03 · Micah Peters (0.80)] Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse ↔ Black Panther · industry · Spider-Verse winning would matter as much as movies like Black Panther invading the Oscars. · "it's just as important as movies like Black Panther invading the Oscars."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 2:03:21 · unknown (0.30)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · industry · The Russos tested Infinity War before Black Panther opened and Black Panther material drew no reaction. · "They tested this movie before Black Panther came out and Black Panther shit got no reaction."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 2:53:25 · unknown (0.35)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · industry · Black Panther got a box-office bump from Infinity War, as Captain Marvel did for Endgame. · "This is Black Panther getting the Infinity War bump, which happened with Captain Marvel and Endgame."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:04:13 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Black Panther · industry · Black Panther is the highest grossing Marvel movie domestically. · "The fact that Black Panther is the highest grossing Marvel movie domestically, ever."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:45:46 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Thor ↔ Black Panther · industry · Thor shot on a real New Mexico location; later Marvel films like Black Panther are made in Atlanta lots for tax rebates and secrecy, hurting how they look. · "a lot of it looks ugly because they were so committed to filming it in like a fucking Atlanta parking lot."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:14:07 · unknown (0.30)] Black Panther ↔ Iron Man 3 · what-if · Speaker hopes Ryan Coogler goes as personal and unconstrained on Black Panther 2 as Black did here. · "I kind of my hope is that Ryan Kugler is going to go totally Iron Man 3 with Black Panther, too."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:14:16 · unknown (0.30)] Black Panther ↔ Batman Returns · what-if · Coogler could make his own Batman Returns-style odd, personal sequel. · "Like, he can do his fucking Batman Returns, Iron Man 3."
Films put beside it more than once (6)
- [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · said 6 times in 2 episodes
- [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever · said 6 times in 1 episode
- [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · said 2 times in 2 episodes
- [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Roma · said 2 times in 1 episode
- [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Thor · said 2 times in 1 episode
- [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse · said 2 times in 1 episode
Fun items about it (2)
- [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:54:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Black Panther · fun · Sean says Black Panther built a whole country so well that a Marvel movie got nominated for best picture. · "they fucking nominated a Marvel movie for best picture."
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:48:34 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Black Panther · fun · Ryan Coogler is the first black filmmaker on a superhero movie in these worlds. · "1st black filmmaker to make a superhero movie in one of these worlds."
One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (18)
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:52:39 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Guardians 3 is certain and Star-Lord is now a primary MCU figure. · "Chris Pratt, obviously, there will be a Guardians 3."
- [The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate · 1:37:26 · unknown (0.40)] Avatar: The Way of Water ↔ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever · programming · Both sequels arrive within a month of each other. · "Now, both getting sequels within a month of each other."
- [The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:27:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Rocketman ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · theme · Rocketman was paired with Bohemian Rhapsody for obvious reasons but has faded from conversation. · "Obviously, it's Rocket Man has been paired with Bohemian Rhapsody for obvious reasons, but Rocket Man just doesn't come up."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:27:52 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50)] Captain Marvel ↔ Roma · theme · Recreating childhood wholesale is hard, which is why Roma was such a great movie. · "That's why Roma was such a great movie."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:10:10 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50)] Sense and Sensibility ↔ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse · programming · The 2019 swap pairing Spider-Verse and Sense and Sensibility taught Amanda how she watches animation and became a reference for later animated films. · "it taught me a lot about how I watch animation, what I respond to"
- [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:57:00 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Avengers: Infinity War ↔ Ant-Man and the Wasp · programming · Whether Ant-Man and the Wasp matters as much as Infinity War is a test of Marvel overexposure. · "At what point does Ant-man and the Wasp not matter as much as Infinity War?"
- [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:37:09 · Van Lathan (0.85)] Captain America: Civil War ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read) · theme · Van says Black Panther was handled better in Civil War than in his own movie, and that Civil War served as his origin; Ironheart's introduction here does not land the same way. · "Black Panther, to me, was portrayed better in Civil War than he was in the original Black Panther movie."
- [The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show · 0:14:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Bohemian Rhapsody ↔ The Pianist · theme · Rami Malek's win reminds the speaker of Adrien Brody's win for The Pianist, a film by a controversial filmmaker with a sordid past. · "I thought a bit of Adrian Brody winning for the pianist, which was also made by a controversial controversial filmmaker with a sordid past."
- [The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show · 0:53:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] Alfonso Cuaron ↔ Roma · craft · The cinematography Oscar went to Roma and to Cuarón, who shot his own film. · "This, of course, went to Roma, Alfonso Coron."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · 0:30:44 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse ↔ Avengers animated movies · programming · Sideline animated versions that don't affect continuity are not new; the Avengers animated titles exist on iTunes. · "You'll also find a bunch of other movies that are called the Avengers colon something that are animated"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 2:55:04 · David Sims (0.40)] Ant-Man and the Wasp ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Ant-Man and the Wasp is the sorbet to watch after Infinity War. · "A nice little sorbet, though."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:37:22 · Van Lathan (0.80)] Iron Man 2 ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read) · theme · Van says the MCU has introduced characters inside other movies before, like Black Widow in Iron Man 2. · "Black Widow makes her a parent, her 1st appearance."
- [The Big Picture · Instant Reactions to a Truly Ludicrous Golden Globes | The Oscars Show · 0:08:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Green Book ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · theme · Both wins read as 'I had a nice time at the movies' rewards rather than judgments of quality. · "feel a little bit like, you know what? I had a nice time at the movies."
- [The Big Picture · Celebrating ‘Scott Pilgrim vs. the World’ 10 Years Later · 0:17:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Scott Pilgrim vs. the World ⇒ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (the host's read) · lineage · Sean says Deadpool, the Lego movie and Spider-Verse could not happen without this film having broken the fourth wall first. · "Deadpool, for example, can't happen or like the Lego movie can't happen or into the Spider-Verse."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Captain Marvel ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · lineage · The film is connective tissue, dragging continuity toward the next Avengers movie. · "this movie is basically a connective tissue movie."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:38:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↔ Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness · theme · Sean sees Riri Williams as the second recent puckish teen hero, after America Chavez, whom the audience has no prior relationship with. · "we just had this with America Chavez in Doctor Strange in the multiverse of Madness."
- [The Big Picture · Instant Reactions to a Truly Ludicrous Golden Globes | The Oscars Show · 0:30:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] A Star Is Born ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · theme · Star's schmaltz and old-fashionedness were expected to lift it, but that is what the night rewarded in Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book. · "it's the schmaltiness and old-fashionedness of Bohemian Rhapsody and Green book that we're really discussing tonight."
- [The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · 0:19:10 · Sean Fennessey (0.90)] Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse ↔ Who Framed Roger Rabbit · lineage · As the film gets kaleidoscopic, it recalled Roger Rabbit's idea of cartoons existing in a world you can interact with. · "the movie that I kept thinking of, especially as this movie went on and it gets sort of more kaleidoscopic and more strange and more fun and high energy is who framed Roger Rabbit?"
Who said it, by their latest sketch (6)
- [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
- [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
- [speaker] Micah Peters · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · Deep comics knowledge and loves characters, representation that doesn't feel preachy, and the act of seeing yourself on screen. Fond of hip-hop and silly gags like Spider Pig. Skeptical of Marvel swaps that revert and of the Avengers continuity burden. · stances: Representation here is natural and not preachy; Not on the level of Black Panther's cultural moment, but just as important; Wants more movies like it, and a Spider-Man Noir movie; Superhero movies can echo comic crossovers
- [speaker] Van Lathan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Enjoys the series for its sleaze, hang value and cheesy lines. Roots for Black-cast-free sendups and loves a flex category. Gravitates to Freddy and likes Kevin Bacon. · stances: Friday the 13th is a movie that did not need Black people; Rewards bad-hang awards and flex lists
- [speaker] Amanda Dobbins · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · Loves The Strangers' withholding craft and a good tense horror film without gore, but likes fun, communal movies like Mamma Mia. She dislikes supernatural or gory horror, which irritates her more than it scares her. She is a sucker for stars and for Googling a movie mid-recording. · stances: The Strangers is scary because of what it doesn't show or explain; Ending explanation weakens it; no answer would be better; Prefers 'withholding' filmmaking; Defends Mamma Mia as joyful and intentional
- [speaker] David Shoemaker · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · Believes the best wrestling movies are documentaries and cult oddities; loves weird, tonally pure b-movies like Body Slam and Paradise Alley. Dislikes tone-deaf studio efforts like Ready to Rumble. A sucker for wrestling's blur of real and fake. · stances: Documentaries beat fiction for wrestling; The Wrestler is the best wrestling movie; Fiction fails when it treats a fake sport in a fake world; Wrestling history (Gold Dust Trio, Sputnik Monroe) deserves movies
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- [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
- [bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)
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You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished Black Panther (2018) and wants to know what to watch next. Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about Black Panther (2018) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion. [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:49:22 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Black Panther looks like the best bet to carry the MCU into the next phase after Infinity War. · "Black Panther certainly looks to be the best bet to carry the series into phase four" [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 0:25:32 · Griffin Newman (0.70)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Griffin loved Black Panther just before, then felt Infinity War was one Marvel movie too big. · "Having, you know, loved Black Panther, which came out right before this." [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:17:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↔ Black Panther · lineage · The first film's theme was isolation versus justice (Killmonger vs. T'Challa); the sequel has a real-world theme too, about allyship between Latinx and Black communities, but is not done as well. · "his movies always have a big dynamic real world theme in them in a way that I don't think many Marvel movies do." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:27:32 · David Sims (0.40)] Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Black Panther (the host's read) · lineage · Vibranium, the shield metal, leads to Wakanda; adamantium is the X-Men analogue the MCU couldn't use. · "So instead they use vibranium as their super metal." [The Rewatchables · ‘Internal Affairs’ · 1:35:07 · Van Lathan (0.35)] Black Panther ↔ Internal Affairs · theme · Peck is the man compared to Garcia, like a Killmonger thing: he talks shit to the very end. · "It's kind of like a whole, like, Black Panther, Killmonger thing, where you leave." [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:32:14 · Van Lathan (0.85)] Black Panther ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read) · theme · Van explains that in the first film T'Challa saw his father on the ancestral plane because he had questions for him, while Shuri saw Killmonger because she wanted revenge, the same motive Killmonger had. · "Shuri did not want to be the Black Panther to protect Wakanda." [The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show · 0:23:11 · unknown (0.40)] Roma ↔ Black Panther · theme · Two Black Panther craft wins early made the night feel like one Hollywood, with Roma and Netflix bursting both. · "I was like, okay, the 2 Hollywoods, that's definitely the theme, but in the middle kind of bursting the two, is is Roma and Netflix" [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:53:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↔ Black Panther · craft · The first film lived in one coherent Wakanda look from Ruth Carter's costumes and the production design, while the sequel hops between many places and loses a single visual style. · "In this movie, we're in so many places, that ship at night, Riri's dorm room, Talakan, Everett Ross's jogging trip, his kitchen, the movie's just all over the place." [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 2:03:09 · unknown (0.35)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · craft · Had Marvel known how big Black Panther would be, Shuri would not have been kept in one room. · "if they had known how big Black Panther was gonna be, they would not have kept Sherry in one room" [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 2:03:48 · unknown (0.30)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · craft · A listener pointed out that Wakanda in Black Panther is an Atlanta parking lot on green screen, a source of local pride. · "clearly it is a parking lot in Atlanta that is green screen" [The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:43:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.45)] The Irishman ↔ Black Panther · contrast · Cultural interest in The Irishman may not match that of Black Panther. · "the sort of cultural interest in that movie is as high as it was in something like Black Panther." [The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · 0:22:34 · Micah Peters (0.85)] Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse ↔ Black Panther · contrast · Not the same cultural phenomenon as Black Panther, but strong on representation without feeling forced. · "it's not the same cultural phenomenon that Black Panther was." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:59:42 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Thor: The Dark World ↔ Black Panther · contrast · Black Panther does Thor-style city-under-attack better than Asgard, which never reads as a city or a planet. · "You never really understand if Asgard is a city or a planet." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:47:38 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Thor ↔ Black Panther · contrast · Black Panther gives every ensemble member an inner life and a plot function; Thor's side characters like Volstagg and Sif do little. · "every single character has their own personality, their own internal conflict, but has like a very important plot function as well." [The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:04:44 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Joker ↔ Black Panther · industry · A Joker Best Picture win would follow Black Panther in the Academy honoring comic book movies. · "And it would be one year after Black Panther, which sort of ushered in." [The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:42:33 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Black Panther ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · industry · Last year's Oscar movies were mega hits; this year only Joker is. · "Last year, Bohemian Rhapsody, Star Is Born, Black Panther, that's as big as Oscar movies get." [The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show · 0:12:41 · unknown (0.40)] Black Panther ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · industry · Bohemian Rhapsody's swamping of the telecast is tied to its box office, with only Black Panther earning more. · "the only movie that made any money, except for Black Panther, which made more money" [The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show · 0:26:13 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45)] Roma ↔ Black Panther · industry · Voters resisted a Netflix film the way they resisted superhero movies for years. · "I do think at some point just people didn't want to vote for a Netflix film and in the same way that they didn't want to vote for a superhero movie for many years." [The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · 0:21:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Black Panther ↔ The Avengers cast · industry · Black Panther is a significant event, while the Avengers cast list is still a lot of Chrises. · "if you look down the cast list on the Avengers," [The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · 0:30:03 · Micah Peters (0.80)] Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse ↔ Black Panther · industry · Spider-Verse winning would matter as much as movies like Black Panther invading the Oscars. · "it's just as important as movies like Black Panther invading the Oscars." [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 2:03:21 · unknown (0.30)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · industry · The Russos tested Infinity War before Black Panther opened and Black Panther material drew no reaction. · "They tested this movie before Black Panther came out and Black Panther shit got no reaction." [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 2:53:25 · unknown (0.35)] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · industry · Black Panther got a box-office bump from Infinity War, as Captain Marvel did for Endgame. · "This is Black Panther getting the Infinity War bump, which happened with Captain Marvel and Endgame." [Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:04:13 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Black Panther · industry · Black Panther is the highest grossing Marvel movie domestically. · "The fact that Black Panther is the highest grossing Marvel movie domestically, ever." [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:45:46 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Thor ↔ Black Panther · industry · Thor shot on a real New Mexico location; later Marvel films like Black Panther are made in Atlanta lots for tax rebates and secrecy, hurting how they look. · "a lot of it looks ugly because they were so committed to filming it in like a fucking Atlanta parking lot." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:14:07 · unknown (0.30)] Black Panther ↔ Iron Man 3 · what-if · Speaker hopes Ryan Coogler goes as personal and unconstrained on Black Panther 2 as Black did here. · "I kind of my hope is that Ryan Kugler is going to go totally Iron Man 3 with Black Panther, too." [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:14:16 · unknown (0.30)] Black Panther ↔ Batman Returns · what-if · Coogler could make his own Batman Returns-style odd, personal sequel. · "Like, he can do his fucking Batman Returns, Iron Man 3." [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · said 6 times in 2 episodes [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever · said 6 times in 1 episode [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · said 2 times in 2 episodes [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Roma · said 2 times in 1 episode [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Thor · said 2 times in 1 episode [pairs] Black Panther ↔ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse · said 2 times in 1 episode [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:54:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Black Panther · fun · Sean says Black Panther built a whole country so well that a Marvel movie got nominated for best picture. · "they fucking nominated a Marvel movie for best picture." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:48:34 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Black Panther · fun · Ryan Coogler is the first black filmmaker on a superhero movie in these worlds. · "1st black filmmaker to make a superhero movie in one of these worlds." [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:52:39 · David Shoemaker (0.40)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Guardians 3 is certain and Star-Lord is now a primary MCU figure. · "Chris Pratt, obviously, there will be a Guardians 3." [The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate · 1:37:26 · unknown (0.40)] Avatar: The Way of Water ↔ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever · programming · Both sequels arrive within a month of each other. · "Now, both getting sequels within a month of each other." [The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:27:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Rocketman ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · theme · Rocketman was paired with Bohemian Rhapsody for obvious reasons but has faded from conversation. · "Obviously, it's Rocket Man has been paired with Bohemian Rhapsody for obvious reasons, but Rocket Man just doesn't come up." [The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:27:52 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50)] Captain Marvel ↔ Roma · theme · Recreating childhood wholesale is hard, which is why Roma was such a great movie. · "That's why Roma was such a great movie." [The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:10:10 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50)] Sense and Sensibility ↔ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse · programming · The 2019 swap pairing Spider-Verse and Sense and Sensibility taught Amanda how she watches animation and became a reference for later animated films. · "it taught me a lot about how I watch animation, what I respond to" [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:57:00 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Avengers: Infinity War ↔ Ant-Man and the Wasp · programming · Whether Ant-Man and the Wasp matters as much as Infinity War is a test of Marvel overexposure. · "At what point does Ant-man and the Wasp not matter as much as Infinity War?" [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:37:09 · Van Lathan (0.85)] Captain America: Civil War ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read) · theme · Van says Black Panther was handled better in Civil War than in his own movie, and that Civil War served as his origin; Ironheart's introduction here does not land the same way. · "Black Panther, to me, was portrayed better in Civil War than he was in the original Black Panther movie." [The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show · 0:14:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Bohemian Rhapsody ↔ The Pianist · theme · Rami Malek's win reminds the speaker of Adrien Brody's win for The Pianist, a film by a controversial filmmaker with a sordid past. · "I thought a bit of Adrian Brody winning for the pianist, which was also made by a controversial controversial filmmaker with a sordid past." [The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show · 0:53:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] Alfonso Cuaron ↔ Roma · craft · The cinematography Oscar went to Roma and to Cuarón, who shot his own film. · "This, of course, went to Roma, Alfonso Coron." [The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · 0:30:44 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse ↔ Avengers animated movies · programming · Sideline animated versions that don't affect continuity are not new; the Avengers animated titles exist on iTunes. · "You'll also find a bunch of other movies that are called the Avengers colon something that are animated" [Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War · 2:55:04 · David Sims (0.40)] Ant-Man and the Wasp ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · programming · Ant-Man and the Wasp is the sorbet to watch after Infinity War. · "A nice little sorbet, though." [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:37:22 · Van Lathan (0.80)] Iron Man 2 ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read) · theme · Van says the MCU has introduced characters inside other movies before, like Black Widow in Iron Man 2. · "Black Widow makes her a parent, her 1st appearance." [The Big Picture · Instant Reactions to a Truly Ludicrous Golden Globes | The Oscars Show · 0:08:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Green Book ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · theme · Both wins read as 'I had a nice time at the movies' rewards rather than judgments of quality. · "feel a little bit like, you know what? I had a nice time at the movies." [The Big Picture · Celebrating ‘Scott Pilgrim vs. the World’ 10 Years Later · 0:17:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Scott Pilgrim vs. the World ⇒ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (the host's read) · lineage · Sean says Deadpool, the Lego movie and Spider-Verse could not happen without this film having broken the fourth wall first. · "Deadpool, for example, can't happen or like the Lego movie can't happen or into the Spider-Verse." [The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Captain Marvel ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · lineage · The film is connective tissue, dragging continuity toward the next Avengers movie. · "this movie is basically a connective tissue movie." [The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:38:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ↔ Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness · theme · Sean sees Riri Williams as the second recent puckish teen hero, after America Chavez, whom the audience has no prior relationship with. · "we just had this with America Chavez in Doctor Strange in the multiverse of Madness." [The Big Picture · Instant Reactions to a Truly Ludicrous Golden Globes | The Oscars Show · 0:30:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] A Star Is Born ↔ Bohemian Rhapsody · theme · Star's schmaltz and old-fashionedness were expected to lift it, but that is what the night rewarded in Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book. · "it's the schmaltiness and old-fashionedness of Bohemian Rhapsody and Green book that we're really discussing tonight." [The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · 0:19:10 · Sean Fennessey (0.90)] Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse ↔ Who Framed Roger Rabbit · lineage · As the film gets kaleidoscopic, it recalled Roger Rabbit's idea of cartoons existing in a world you can interact with. · "the movie that I kept thinking of, especially as this movie went on and it gets sort of more kaleidoscopic and more strange and more fun and high energy is who framed Roger Rabbit?" [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases [speaker] Micah Peters · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey · Deep comics knowledge and loves characters, representation that doesn't feel preachy, and the act of seeing yourself on screen. Fond of hip-hop and silly gags like Spider Pig. Skeptical of Marvel swaps that revert and of the Avengers continuity burden. · stances: Representation here is natural and not preachy; Not on the level of Black Panther's cultural moment, but just as important; Wants more movies like it, and a Spider-Man Noir movie; Superhero movies can echo comic crossovers [speaker] Van Lathan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Enjoys the series for its sleaze, hang value and cheesy lines. Roots for Black-cast-free sendups and loves a flex category. Gravitates to Freddy and likes Kevin Bacon. · stances: Friday the 13th is a movie that did not need Black people; Rewards bad-hang awards and flex lists [speaker] Amanda Dobbins · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · Loves The Strangers' withholding craft and a good tense horror film without gore, but likes fun, communal movies like Mamma Mia. She dislikes supernatural or gory horror, which irritates her more than it scares her. She is a sucker for stars and for Googling a movie mid-recording. · stances: The Strangers is scary because of what it doesn't show or explain; Ending explanation weakens it; no answer would be better; Prefers 'withholding' filmmaking; Defends Mamma Mia as joyful and intentional [speaker] David Shoemaker · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting · Believes the best wrestling movies are documentaries and cult oddities; loves weird, tonally pure b-movies like Body Slam and Paradise Alley. Dislikes tone-deaf studio efforts like Ready to Rumble. A sucker for wrestling's blur of real and fake. · stances: Documentaries beat fiction for wrestling; The Wrestler is the best wrestling movie; Fiction fails when it treats a fake sport in a fake world; Wrestling history (Gold Dust Trio, Sputnik Monroe) deserves movies [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten) [bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick) Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with Black Panther (2018); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend Black Panther (2018) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them. Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact. You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here. Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.