Black Panther (2018)

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Wikidata Q23780734, film, IMDb tt1825683, TMDB 284054: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Ryan Coogler as director (‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald); 12 more episodes agree.

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In the store as #564, Black Panther (2018).

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Captain America: The First Avenger: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Black Panther (the host's read). Vibranium, the shield metal, leads to Wakanda; adamantium is the X-Men analogue the MCU couldn't use.
    “So instead they use vibranium as their super metal.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:27:32 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever: 2 lines the host's read ×2

  1. theme (ancestral plane parallel): Black Panther ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read). Van explains that in the first film T'Challa saw his father on the ancestral plane because he had questions for him, while Shuri saw Killmonger because she wanted revenge, the same motive Killmonger had.
    “Shuri did not want to be the Black Panther to protect Wakanda.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:32:14 · Van Lathan (0.85 sure it was them)

Connected to

Avengers: Infinity War: 6 lines programming ×2 craft ×2 industry ×2

  1. programming (programming): Black Panther → Avengers: Infinity War. Griffin loved Black Panther just before, then felt Infinity War was one Marvel movie too big.
    “Having, you know, loved Black Panther, which came out right before this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:25:32 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever: 6 lines unmapped ×3 lineage ×1 theme ×1 craft ×1

  1. lineage (sequel theme): Black Panther: Wakanda Forever → Black Panther. The first film's theme was isolation versus justice (Killmonger vs. T'Challa); the sequel has a real-world theme too, about allyship between Latinx and Black communities, but is not done as well.
    “his movies always have a big dynamic real world theme in them in a way that I don't think many Marvel movies do.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:17:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)

Bohemian Rhapsody: 2 lines industry ×2

  1. industry (industry): Black Panther → Bohemian Rhapsody. Last year's Oscar movies were mega hits; this year only Joker is.
    “Last year, Bohemian Rhapsody, Star Is Born, Black Panther, that's as big as Oscar movies get.”
    The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:42:33 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Roma: 2 lines theme ×1 industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Roma → Black Panther. Voters resisted a Netflix film the way they resisted superhero movies for years.
    “I do think at some point just people didn't want to vote for a Netflix film and in the same way that they didn't want to vote for a superhero movie for many years.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:26:13 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45 sure it was them)

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse: 2 lines contrast ×1 industry ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse → Black Panther. Not the same cultural phenomenon as Black Panther, but strong on representation without feeling forced.
    “it's not the same cultural phenomenon that Black Panther was.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:22:34 · Micah Peters (0.85 sure it was them)

Thor: 2 lines industry ×1 contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Thor → Black Panther. Black Panther gives every ensemble member an inner life and a plot function; Thor's side characters like Volstagg and Sif do little.
    “every single character has their own personality, their own internal conflict, but has like a very important plot function as well.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:47:38 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck → Black Panther. Sean says he does not think the directors of Black Panther or Thor: Ragnarok sold out, but the comparison to Boden and Fleck is unavoidable.
    “I love Black Panther, and I love Thor Ragnarok, and I don't think either of those guys sold out when they made those movies”
    The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:23:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.75 sure it was them)

Batman Returns: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Black Panther → Batman Returns. Coogler could make his own Batman Returns-style odd, personal sequel.
    “Like, he can do his fucking Batman Returns, Iron Man 3.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:14:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Beachler: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Beachler → Black Panther. The first film's production design and Ruth Carter's costumes kept it in one coherent Afrofuturist look, which the sequel lacks.
    “in part because of the Ruth Carter costume design, had a beach or production design.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:53:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Captain America: The First Avenger: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Captain America: The First Avenger → Black Panther. Vibranium, the shield metal, leads to Wakanda; adamantium is the X-Men analogue the MCU couldn't use.
    “So instead they use vibranium as their super metal.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:27:32 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Captain America: The Winter Soldier: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Black Panther. Black Panther is the highest grossing Marvel movie domestically.
    “The fact that Black Panther is the highest grossing Marvel movie domestically, ever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:04:13 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Chadwick Boseman: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Chadwick Boseman → Black Panther. Sean says Boseman holds Black Panther together and carries it on his shoulders.
    “he holds the movie together. He carries the movie on his shoulders”
    The Big Picture · Did Disney’s ‘Mulan’ Experiment Work? A Binge Mode Investigation · 0:09:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.90 sure it was them)

Do the Right Thing: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (prescient detail): Do the Right Thing → Black Panther. A character holds a Black Panther comic and eats pizza; Sean first noticed it in the age of Coogler.
    “Black Panther eat pizza.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Do The Right Thing’ With Sean Fennessey and Wesley Morris · 1:22:51 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Idris Elba: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Black Panther → Idris Elba. Elba, stuck as Heimdall, could have played the Forest Whitaker part or the Daniel Kaluuya part in Black Panther.
    “he could have played the Forrest Whitaker part.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:40:35 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Internal Affairs: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Black Panther → Internal Affairs. Peck is the man compared to Garcia, like a Killmonger thing: he talks shit to the very end.
    “It's kind of like a whole, like, Black Panther, Killmonger thing, where you leave.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Internal Affairs’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:35:07 · Van Lathan (0.35 sure it was them)

Iron Man 3: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Black Panther → Iron Man 3. Speaker hopes Ryan Coogler goes as personal and unconstrained on Black Panther 2 as Black did here.
    “I kind of my hope is that Ryan Kugler is going to go totally Iron Man 3 with Black Panther, too.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:14:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Joker: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Joker → Black Panther. A Joker Best Picture win would follow Black Panther in the Academy honoring comic book movies.
    “And it would be one year after Black Panther, which sort of ushered in.”
    The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:04:44 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Kendrick Lamar: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Kendrick Lamar → Black Panther. Kendrick Lamar skipping the Oscars read as a referendum that the Academy did not acknowledge Black Panther enough.
    “you didn't really acknowledge Black Panther in the way that you should have at this award show”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:32:49 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)

Ludwig Goransson: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Ludwig Goransson → Black Panther. The score blends African sounds with a Silvestri/Zimmer-style propulsive action feel.
    “with the classic African sounds that he's trying to integrate into the story, plus that sort of like sweeping Alan Sylvestri, Hans Zimmer, kind of propulsive feeling”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:54:52 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)

Ta-Nehisi Coates: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Black Panther → Ta-Nehisi Coates. Coates' comic run made new interest in Black Panther.
    “when Tahasi Coates took on the character and created a whole new level of interest in him.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:48:44 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

The Avengers cast: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Black Panther → The Avengers cast. Black Panther is a significant event, while the Avengers cast list is still a lot of Chrises.
    “if you look down the cast list on the Avengers,”
    The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:21:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)

The Irishman: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Irishman → Black Panther. Cultural interest in The Irishman may not match that of Black Panther.
    “the sort of cultural interest in that movie is as high as it was in something like Black Panther.”
    The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:43:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them)

Thor: The Dark World: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Thor: The Dark World → Black Panther. Black Panther does Thor-style city-under-attack better than Asgard, which never reads as a city or a planet.
    “You never really understand if Asgard is a city or a planet.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:59:42 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Tyler Perry: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Black Panther → Tyler Perry. Marvel shoots in Atlanta, where Tyler Perry built production infrastructure; Black Panther was largely built there.
    “He set up a whole production infrastructure in Atlanta, and now Marvel just runs.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:49:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (2)

  1. career (career): Chadwick Boseman → Black Panther. Sean says Boseman holds Black Panther together and carries it on his shoulders.
    “he holds the movie together. He carries the movie on his shoulders”
    The Big Picture · Did Disney’s ‘Mulan’ Experiment Work? A Binge Mode Investigation · 0:09:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Black Panther → Ta-Nehisi Coates. Coates' comic run made new interest in Black Panther.
    “when Tahasi Coates took on the character and created a whole new level of interest in him.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:48:44 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

contrast (5)

  1. contrast (contrast): The Irishman → Black Panther. Cultural interest in The Irishman may not match that of Black Panther.
    “the sort of cultural interest in that movie is as high as it was in something like Black Panther.”
    The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:43:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck → Black Panther. Sean says he does not think the directors of Black Panther or Thor: Ragnarok sold out, but the comparison to Boden and Fleck is unavoidable.
    “I love Black Panther, and I love Thor Ragnarok, and I don't think either of those guys sold out when they made those movies”
    The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:23:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.75 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast): Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse → Black Panther. Not the same cultural phenomenon as Black Panther, but strong on representation without feeling forced.
    “it's not the same cultural phenomenon that Black Panther was.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:22:34 · Micah Peters (0.85 sure it was them)
  4. contrast (contrast): Thor: The Dark World → Black Panther. Black Panther does Thor-style city-under-attack better than Asgard, which never reads as a city or a planet.
    “You never really understand if Asgard is a city or a planet.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:59:42 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. contrast (contrast): Thor → Black Panther. Black Panther gives every ensemble member an inner life and a plot function; Thor's side characters like Volstagg and Sif do little.
    “every single character has their own personality, their own internal conflict, but has like a very important plot function as well.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:47:38 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

craft (5)

  1. craft (craft): Beachler → Black Panther. The first film's production design and Ruth Carter's costumes kept it in one coherent Afrofuturist look, which the sequel lacks.
    “in part because of the Ruth Carter costume design, had a beach or production design.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:53:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. craft (visual coherence): Black Panther: Wakanda Forever → Black Panther. The first film lived in one coherent Wakanda look from Ruth Carter's costumes and the production design, while the sequel hops between many places and loses a single visual style.
    “In this movie, we're in so many places, that ship at night, Riri's dorm room, Talakan, Everett Ross's jogging trip, his kitchen, the movie's just all over the place.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:53:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  3. craft (craft): Ludwig Goransson → Black Panther. The score blends African sounds with a Silvestri/Zimmer-style propulsive action feel.
    “with the classic African sounds that he's trying to integrate into the story, plus that sort of like sweeping Alan Sylvestri, Hans Zimmer, kind of propulsive feeling”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:54:52 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. craft (craft): Black Panther → Avengers: Infinity War. Had Marvel known how big Black Panther would be, Shuri would not have been kept in one room.
    “if they had known how big Black Panther was gonna be, they would not have kept Sherry in one room”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:03:09 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  5. craft (craft): Black Panther → Avengers: Infinity War. A listener pointed out that Wakanda in Black Panther is an Atlanta parking lot on green screen, a source of local pride.
    “clearly it is a parking lot in Atlanta that is green screen”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:03:48 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

industry (11)

  1. industry (industry): Joker → Black Panther. A Joker Best Picture win would follow Black Panther in the Academy honoring comic book movies.
    “And it would be one year after Black Panther, which sort of ushered in.”
    The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:04:44 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry): Black Panther → Bohemian Rhapsody. Last year's Oscar movies were mega hits; this year only Joker is.
    “Last year, Bohemian Rhapsody, Star Is Born, Black Panther, that's as big as Oscar movies get.”
    The Big Picture · The Snubs and Surprises of the 92nd Academy Award Nominations | The Oscars Show · 0:42:33 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. industry (industry): Black Panther → Bohemian Rhapsody. Bohemian Rhapsody's swamping of the telecast is tied to its box office, with only Black Panther earning more.
    “the only movie that made any money, except for Black Panther, which made more money”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:12:41 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. industry (industry): Roma → Black Panther. Voters resisted a Netflix film the way they resisted superhero movies for years.
    “I do think at some point just people didn't want to vote for a Netflix film and in the same way that they didn't want to vote for a superhero movie for many years.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:26:13 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45 sure it was them)
  5. industry (industry): Black Panther → The Avengers cast. Black Panther is a significant event, while the Avengers cast list is still a lot of Chrises.
    “if you look down the cast list on the Avengers,”
    The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:21:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)
  6. industry (industry): Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse → Black Panther. Spider-Verse winning would matter as much as movies like Black Panther invading the Oscars.
    “it's just as important as movies like Black Panther invading the Oscars.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:30:03 · Micah Peters (0.80 sure it was them)
  7. industry (industry): Black Panther → Avengers: Infinity War. The Russos tested Infinity War before Black Panther opened and Black Panther material drew no reaction.
    “They tested this movie before Black Panther came out and Black Panther shit got no reaction.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:03:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  8. industry (industry): Black Panther → Avengers: Infinity War. Black Panther got a box-office bump from Infinity War, as Captain Marvel did for Endgame.
    “This is Black Panther getting the Infinity War bump, which happened with Captain Marvel and Endgame.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:53:25 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  9. industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Black Panther. Black Panther is the highest grossing Marvel movie domestically.
    “The fact that Black Panther is the highest grossing Marvel movie domestically, ever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:04:13 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  10. industry (industry): Thor → Black Panther. Thor shot on a real New Mexico location; later Marvel films like Black Panther are made in Atlanta lots for tax rebates and secrecy, hurting how they look.
    “a lot of it looks ugly because they were so committed to filming it in like a fucking Atlanta parking lot.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:45:46 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  11. industry (industry): Black Panther → Tyler Perry. Marvel shoots in Atlanta, where Tyler Perry built production infrastructure; Black Panther was largely built there.
    “He set up a whole production infrastructure in Atlanta, and now Marvel just runs.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:49:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

lineage (2)

  1. lineage (sequel theme): Black Panther: Wakanda Forever → Black Panther. The first film's theme was isolation versus justice (Killmonger vs. T'Challa); the sequel has a real-world theme too, about allyship between Latinx and Black communities, but is not done as well.
    “his movies always have a big dynamic real world theme in them in a way that I don't think many Marvel movies do.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:17:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Captain America: The First Avenger → Black Panther. Vibranium, the shield metal, leads to Wakanda; adamantium is the X-Men analogue the MCU couldn't use.
    “So instead they use vibranium as their super metal.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:27:32 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

programming (2)

  1. programming (programming): Black Panther → Avengers: Infinity War. Black Panther looks like the best bet to carry the MCU into the next phase after Infinity War.
    “Black Panther certainly looks to be the best bet to carry the series into phase four”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:49:22 · David Shoemaker (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. programming (programming): Black Panther → Avengers: Infinity War. Griffin loved Black Panther just before, then felt Infinity War was one Marvel movie too big.
    “Having, you know, loved Black Panther, which came out right before this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:25:32 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

theme (4)

  1. theme (theme): Black Panther → Internal Affairs. Peck is the man compared to Garcia, like a Killmonger thing: he talks shit to the very end.
    “It's kind of like a whole, like, Black Panther, Killmonger thing, where you leave.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Internal Affairs’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:35:07 · Van Lathan (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. theme (ancestral plane parallel): Black Panther: Wakanda Forever → Black Panther. Van explains that in the first film T'Challa saw his father on the ancestral plane because he had questions for him, while Shuri saw Killmonger because she wanted revenge, the same motive Killmonger had.
    “Shuri did not want to be the Black Panther to protect Wakanda.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:32:14 · Van Lathan (0.85 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): Roma → Black Panther. Two Black Panther craft wins early made the night feel like one Hollywood, with Roma and Netflix bursting both.
    “I was like, okay, the 2 Hollywoods, that's definitely the theme, but in the middle kind of bursting the two, is is Roma and Netflix”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:23:11 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. theme (theme): Kendrick Lamar → Black Panther. Kendrick Lamar skipping the Oscars read as a referendum that the Academy did not acknowledge Black Panther enough.
    “you didn't really acknowledge Black Panther in the way that you should have at this award show”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:32:49 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (4)

  1. unmapped (prescient detail): Do the Right Thing → Black Panther. A character holds a Black Panther comic and eats pizza; Sean first noticed it in the age of Coogler.
    “Black Panther eat pizza.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Do The Right Thing’ With Sean Fennessey and Wesley Morris · 1:22:51 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (runtime): Black Panther: Wakanda Forever → Black Panther. The sequel runs 2:41 against the original's 2:12, which Amanda reads as the film trying to do too much.
    “it's 2 hours and 41 minutes for a reason because they're trying to do too much.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:39:26 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (CGI weakness): Black Panther: Wakanda Forever → Black Panther. The first film's video-game-looking CGI showdown is doubled down on in the sequel, with flying robots and an aircraft-carrier fight.
    “You know, it just kind of looked like a video game a little bit.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:46:42 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (action set piece): Black Panther: Wakanda Forever → Black Panther. Amanda rewatched the first film's casino fight, built around Okoye, and found nothing in the sequel as exciting.
    “I really loved the casino fight. I think that's like a really great action set piece.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:55:45 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)

what-if (3)

  1. what-if (what-if): Black Panther → Idris Elba. Elba, stuck as Heimdall, could have played the Forest Whitaker part or the Daniel Kaluuya part in Black Panther.
    “he could have played the Forrest Whitaker part.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:40:35 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (what-if): Black Panther → Iron Man 3. Speaker hopes Ryan Coogler goes as personal and unconstrained on Black Panther 2 as Black did here.
    “I kind of my hope is that Ryan Kugler is going to go totally Iron Man 3 with Black Panther, too.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:14:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. what-if (what-if): Black Panther → Batman Returns. Coogler could make his own Batman Returns-style odd, personal sequel.
    “Like, he can do his fucking Batman Returns, Iron Man 3.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:14:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Black Panther: Sean says Black Panther built a whole country so well that a Marvel movie got nominated for best picture.
    “they fucking nominated a Marvel movie for best picture.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:54:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Black Panther: Ryan Coogler is the first black filmmaker on a superhero movie in these worlds.
    “1st black filmmaker to make a superhero movie in one of these worlds.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:48:34 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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