What the corpus says about The Incredible Hulk (2008)

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What was said about it (26)

  1. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:23:12 · Griffin or David (0.35)] Iron Man ↔ The Incredible Hulk · programming · Both Iron Man's post-credits Fury scene and Tony's Hulk cameo got audiences cheering, building the idea of a shared universe. · "I was so invested in the idea, which seems hilarious now of a cinematic universe."
  2. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:36:32 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) · programming · The WWII super-soldier line makes theater audiences excited for a Captain America reference, a habit Iron Man 2 repeats. · "Iron Man 2 is the guiltiest of that."
  3. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:31:34 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) (the host's read) · programming · The hero jumping out of a hangar plane becomes a recurring Marvel image, starting here and used in Black Panther and Captain America. · "And this is the 1st of what then becomes the Marvel trope where a hero is either pushed out of or jumps out of the back of like a hangar plane."
  4. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:51:33 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Consultant ↔ The Incredible Hulk · programming · The short on the Thor Blu-ray explains Tony's cameo as a ploy to sabotage the recruitment of Blonsky. · "They see him as a war hero and blame the devastation of Harlem and Bruce Banner."
  5. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:04:49 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Hulk · lineage · A speaker says the opening credits re-establish the origin so the film can claim to be a new beginning rather than a direct sequel to Ang Lee's film. · "So this is why people say, oh, it this isn't a direct sequel to Angly because they make the..."
  6. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:06:37 · Griffin or David (0.35)] Hulk ⇒ The Incredible Hulk (the host's read) · lineage · Despite the reboot claim, the same three relationships (Hulk, Betty, Thunderbolt Ross) carry through, as does the South America opening. · "And those 3 relationships feel very much on a continuity with everything that happens in English film."
  7. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read) · lineage · Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out. · "The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot."
  8. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read) · lineage · Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it. · "That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem."
  9. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:47:14 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Incredible Hulk (the host's read) · lineage · A speaker says the film reuses the old TV show's score, the sad-guitar cue from Bixby walking away, even though Craig Armstrong scored it. · "They used the score from the Incredible Hulk at some point in this movie."
  10. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:49:27 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ The Avengers · lineage · Tony's end cameo promises a team that Iron Man's Avengers arc and Nick Fury's pitch in Iron Man 2 contradict; a Blu-ray one-shot was needed to patch it. · "So this is one of those things where they just like rewrite the film's 3 movies later because chest beaten's like, that makes no sense."
  11. [The Big Picture · Emergency Mailbag: The Oscars Are Streaming and Hollywood Is Fighting Over Trolls | The Big Picture · 1:05:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Iron Man · theme · The two characters appearing in the first two MCU films were Hulk and Iron Man. · "It's the Incredible Hulk and Iron Man, you fools."
  12. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:21:49 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ The Scorpion King · craft · Norton's table hulk-out is compared to the Scorpion King bug-man CGI at the end of The Mummy Returns. · "Awful. That looks like scorpion king shit."
  13. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:33:33 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice ↔ The Incredible Hulk · craft · The Abomination, like BvS's Doomsday, looks like a mud monster with no texture. · "It's the same problem as Doomsday in Batman versus Superman, where it's just like, he just looks like a mud monster."
  14. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:15:40 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Italian Job ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Norton gives either a gun-to-the-head performance (Italian Job) or 110 percent; this is the one film that feels uneven. · "There are movies like the Italian job where like Paramount forced him to be in it."
  15. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:06 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Fight Club ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Norton's live-wire narrator in Fight Club was a blueprint for a Banner performance, yet he is boring in this. · "the narrator in Fight Club kind of feels like a perfect show reel for a Bruce Banner performance, right?"
  16. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:27:25 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Avengers ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Avengers' Hulk transformation is frightening and feels large; here it is cartoony. · "The Hulk's transformation is frightening."
  17. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:31:00 · Griffin or David (0.40)] The Amazing Spider-Man 2 ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Told as a tangent on bad superhero origins: Tim Roth's Abomination origin ('I want to be big like Hulk') triggers a retelling of Electro's origin. · "Ben, do you know electro's origin and Amazing Spider-Man 2?"
  18. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:59:18 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Elektra · contrast · The Sonic-cannon fight with no stylization feels like the Elektra movie. · "You know, but this like looks like the Electra movie or whatever."
  19. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:39:10 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Avengers ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Avengers uses a six-block radius around Grand Central for storytelling; this film picked Harlem but could be anywhere. · "They like pick that like 6 block radius around Grand Central."
  20. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:46:28 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Hulk ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Ang Lee's Hulk makes jumping and falling spiritual in the desert, while this film's rooftop jumping looks like the Flatiron District. · "It's way cooler in the Angling Hulk when jumping and falling is like spiritual."
  21. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:04:50 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Hulk is what Marvel wanted all its movies to look like, and it is generic and lacks personality; Iron Man came out first and lucked into its looseness. · "that's what they, I think, wanted all these movies to look like, and it's so generic and lacking in any sort of personality."
  22. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:19:32 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Interstellar · verdict · Marvel's later formula is compared to fast food where quality control is the achievement; this film is the Subway-or-worse option. · "Like Marvel, when they figure out their formula for better or worse, they become like fast food."
  23. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:34 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Hulk ↔ The Incredible Hulk · verdict · Ruffalo, Bixby and Bana all share a haunted Banner; this film prioritizes action over that. · "Right, but let's say, like Ruffalo, Bixby, and Bana all get the same thing that's most important, which is this guy's kind of haunted."
  24. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:33:46 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Batman Forever / Batman & Robin (the Schumacher movies) · verdict · Speakers agree the Schumacher films are more engaging than the worst superhero movies. · "I think we both agree that both of the Schumacher movies are at least more engaging in how like..."
  25. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:51:43 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Hulk ↔ The Incredible Hulk · verdict · Ang Lee's film is about four-person relationships so lack of scale works there; this one is a perfunctory action film. · "No, and that's an asset to the Angli Hulk because it's just about those relationships."
  26. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:00:49 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Iron Man 2 · verdict · A speaker ranks this the worst of the early MCU, below Iron Man 2, which is at least esoteric and fails valiantly. · "Iron 2 is like failing valiantly."

Films put beside it more than once (4)

  1. [pairs] The Incredible Hulk ↔ The Avengers · said 6 times in 2 episodes
  2. [pairs] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Hulk · said 5 times in 1 episode
  3. [pairs] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Iron Man · said 4 times in 3 episodes
  4. [pairs] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) · said 2 times in 1 episode

Fun items about it (6)

  1. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:04:38 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · See the opening credits sequence, the only MCU film with one, which retells the origin so it can claim to be a new start. · "Is this the only one with an opening credits sequence?"
  2. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:50 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · See the scene where the soda-factory blood contaminates a bottle and Stan Lee's cameo drinks it, and then nothing comes of it. · "Okay, so, 0 my god, who got the soda bottle?"
  3. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:30:47 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · Tim Roth's origin: the Hulk breaks every bone in his body and his reaction is to want to be big so he can punch the Hulk back. · "He's like, I want to be big like Hulk so I can punch him back."
  4. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:41:19 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · The Italian salami-shop scene: Banner's best friend Pasquale is invented, with the set dressed only with salami. · "Put some salami there."
  5. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:52:51 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · Toronto's mayor reportedly lobbied for the Hulk to shoot there; the college-quad fight is a punch-up target. · "Apparently the mayor of Toronto was a big Hulk fan."
  6. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:53:37 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · Eating the heart-rate monitor chip in the stacks, a sequence a speaker likes. · "I'm liking this scene, though, in which he has to put on his heart rate monitor and hide in the stacks."

One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (21)

  1. [The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:13:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Avengers ↔ Thor · programming · Thor was treated as a loss leader, a stepping stone to the Avengers. · "Thor was treated as a loss leader, essentially."
  2. [Blank Check — Patreon · In the Cut · 0:09:37 · Griffin Newman (0.60)] In the Cut ↔ Hulk · programming · Both were 2003 films that were derided on release; Hulk is called David's derided film of the year. · "It was your derided film of 2000."
  3. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:18:06 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Iron Man 2 · programming · Griffin has a point about Paltrow in Iron Man 2 and promises a separate Iron Man 2 commentary. · "We're going to do an Iron Man 2 commentary so we can talk about the movie I want to talk about there."
  4. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:16:00 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 3 ↔ The Avengers · programming · Phase 2 begins here and Avengers' victory lap gave Feige room to let each film feel individual. · "They're on such a victory lap that it feels like this is the one little chunk of time where Kevin Feige lets go a little bit."
  5. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:42:44 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift ↔ Hulk · programming · Hulk-van talk reminds a speaker of Bow Wow's Hulk-fist BMW in Tokyo Drift. · "And then, of course, in Fast and Furious, Tokyo Drift, Lil Bow Wow drives a whole car."
  6. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:48:57 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Thor · programming · The hosts preview the next trio: Thor, Captain America, Avengers; one hates Thor. · "So what our next three is going to be Thor, Captain America, Avengers."
  7. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:09 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. · programming · Coulson was brought back for the TV show but kept out of the movies, signaling the TV show is only loosely connected. · "you can be in the TV show, like, because we need, you know, a star for the show"
  8. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:35:56 · David Sims (0.55)] The Ice Storm ↔ Hulk · lineage · After loving Hulk, a host went back to the Lee filmography and read The Ice Storm as the family psychodrama behind it. · "And then this movie is like, oh, here's all the weird family psychodrama, which is already contextualized through the Marvel Comics prism."
  9. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:01:42 · unknown (Griffin) (0.50)] Iron Man ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Mentions Captain Marvel's upcoming 90s setting and Kamala Khan idolizing her as a possible future movie. · "And then like models herself after Captain Marvel."
  10. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:32 · David Sims (0.40)] Captain Marvel ↔ The Avengers · programming · Captain Marvel is a 1990s prequel in which Fury still has both eyes, bringing back Coulson/Fury; they predict nineties-reference gags. · "So in that one, Nick Fury has 2 eyes."
  11. [The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:36:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Ang Lee ↔ Hulk · theme · Even in a Hulk movie he dislikes, Fennessey sees Lee chasing a battle between two sides of a man. · "There's the 2 sides of a man that he's really interested in that."
  12. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:57 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read) · lineage · The Iron Man trilogy is closed into a circle by the flashback to the party and Becca Hall and Pierce. · "as individualistic as this movie is, it actually like... It's bringing the 1st 2 complete."
  13. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read) · programming · Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list. · "We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon."
  14. [Blank Check — Patreon · Vanilla Sky · 0:24:25 · unknown (0.35)] Hulk ↔ Vanilla Sky · theme · The strongest example of defending a movie against dismissive friends in the speaker's adolescence was Ang Lee's Hulk, like defending Vanilla Sky. · "Drew the line was Anglies Hulk."
  15. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:09:11 · unknown (Griffin or David) (0.30)] Iron Man ⇒ modern superhero movies (the host's read) · lineage · Called the prototype format every later superhero film riffs on. · "this is the prototype for the modern superhero movie."
  16. [Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:02:12 · Griffin Newman (0.35)] Thor ↔ The Avengers · programming · The Hawkeye cameo, with no interaction, made the speaker doubt the Avengers team-up would work. · "The thing you want to see is how they talk and interact with each other."
  17. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:27:36 · unknown (probably David) (0.40)] Stan Lee ⇒ Iron Man (the maker said so: Stan Lee interviews) · lineage · The film follows the first comic issue's origin; Lee wanted to make an industrialist war profiteer compelling to hippie kids. · "here's like an industrialist, war profiteer, Laos, and make him like compelling to these, like, hippie kids."
  18. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:12:08 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 2 ↔ The Avengers · programming · Feige pushed more cinematic-universe setup after the first film, but held most back; the Fury scene and shield joke are the result. · "Let's build shield outlets, like give them, you know, a little more of what they want."
  19. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:05:06 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Batman Begins · lineage · The suit-development process scenes are a funny version of Batman Begins' gadget-building. · "This is like funny version of Batman begins."
  20. [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:24:59 · Griffin or David (0.25)] William Hurt ↔ The Avengers · programming · Hurt's Ross is the one thread kept through the MCU and the film otherwise sits apart from Ruffalo's Hulk. · "The only kind of thread they keep."
  21. [Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:53:20 · unknown (0.30)] RoboCop ⇒ Iron Man (the host's read) · lineage · The Ironmonger voice and suit recall ED-209, and the finale is ED-209 versus RoboCop. · "You know what the voice is? He's Ed 209."

Who said it, by their latest sketch (1)

  1. [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license

The shows' running bits (2)

  1. [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
  2. [bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)

The whole prompt

As the model gets it, from app/Ai/Prompts/CorpusAsk.md 
You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished The Incredible Hulk (2008) and wants to know what to watch next.

Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about The Incredible Hulk (2008) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.

[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:23:12 · Griffin or David (0.35)] Iron Man ↔ The Incredible Hulk · programming · Both Iron Man's post-credits Fury scene and Tony's Hulk cameo got audiences cheering, building the idea of a shared universe. · "I was so invested in the idea, which seems hilarious now of a cinematic universe."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:36:32 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) · programming · The WWII super-soldier line makes theater audiences excited for a Captain America reference, a habit Iron Man 2 repeats. · "Iron Man 2 is the guiltiest of that."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:31:34 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) (the host's read) · programming · The hero jumping out of a hangar plane becomes a recurring Marvel image, starting here and used in Black Panther and Captain America. · "And this is the 1st of what then becomes the Marvel trope where a hero is either pushed out of or jumps out of the back of like a hangar plane."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:51:33 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Consultant ↔ The Incredible Hulk · programming · The short on the Thor Blu-ray explains Tony's cameo as a ploy to sabotage the recruitment of Blonsky. · "They see him as a war hero and blame the devastation of Harlem and Bruce Banner."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:04:49 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Hulk · lineage · A speaker says the opening credits re-establish the origin so the film can claim to be a new beginning rather than a direct sequel to Ang Lee's film. · "So this is why people say, oh, it this isn't a direct sequel to Angly because they make the..."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:06:37 · Griffin or David (0.35)] Hulk ⇒ The Incredible Hulk (the host's read) · lineage · Despite the reboot claim, the same three relationships (Hulk, Betty, Thunderbolt Ross) carry through, as does the South America opening. · "And those 3 relationships feel very much on a continuity with everything that happens in English film."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read) · lineage · Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out. · "The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read) · lineage · Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it. · "That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:47:14 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40)] The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Incredible Hulk (the host's read) · lineage · A speaker says the film reuses the old TV show's score, the sad-guitar cue from Bixby walking away, even though Craig Armstrong scored it. · "They used the score from the Incredible Hulk at some point in this movie."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:49:27 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ The Avengers · lineage · Tony's end cameo promises a team that Iron Man's Avengers arc and Nick Fury's pitch in Iron Man 2 contradict; a Blu-ray one-shot was needed to patch it. · "So this is one of those things where they just like rewrite the film's 3 movies later because chest beaten's like, that makes no sense."
[The Big Picture · Emergency Mailbag: The Oscars Are Streaming and Hollywood Is Fighting Over Trolls | The Big Picture · 1:05:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Iron Man · theme · The two characters appearing in the first two MCU films were Hulk and Iron Man. · "It's the Incredible Hulk and Iron Man, you fools."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:21:49 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ The Scorpion King · craft · Norton's table hulk-out is compared to the Scorpion King bug-man CGI at the end of The Mummy Returns. · "Awful. That looks like scorpion king shit."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:33:33 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice ↔ The Incredible Hulk · craft · The Abomination, like BvS's Doomsday, looks like a mud monster with no texture. · "It's the same problem as Doomsday in Batman versus Superman, where it's just like, he just looks like a mud monster."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:15:40 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Italian Job ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Norton gives either a gun-to-the-head performance (Italian Job) or 110 percent; this is the one film that feels uneven. · "There are movies like the Italian job where like Paramount forced him to be in it."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:06 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Fight Club ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Norton's live-wire narrator in Fight Club was a blueprint for a Banner performance, yet he is boring in this. · "the narrator in Fight Club kind of feels like a perfect show reel for a Bruce Banner performance, right?"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:27:25 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Avengers ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Avengers' Hulk transformation is frightening and feels large; here it is cartoony. · "The Hulk's transformation is frightening."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:31:00 · Griffin or David (0.40)] The Amazing Spider-Man 2 ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Told as a tangent on bad superhero origins: Tim Roth's Abomination origin ('I want to be big like Hulk') triggers a retelling of Electro's origin. · "Ben, do you know electro's origin and Amazing Spider-Man 2?"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:59:18 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Elektra · contrast · The Sonic-cannon fight with no stylization feels like the Elektra movie. · "You know, but this like looks like the Electra movie or whatever."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:39:10 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Avengers ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Avengers uses a six-block radius around Grand Central for storytelling; this film picked Harlem but could be anywhere. · "They like pick that like 6 block radius around Grand Central."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:46:28 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Hulk ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Ang Lee's Hulk makes jumping and falling spiritual in the desert, while this film's rooftop jumping looks like the Flatiron District. · "It's way cooler in the Angling Hulk when jumping and falling is like spiritual."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:04:50 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Hulk is what Marvel wanted all its movies to look like, and it is generic and lacks personality; Iron Man came out first and lucked into its looseness. · "that's what they, I think, wanted all these movies to look like, and it's so generic and lacking in any sort of personality."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:19:32 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Interstellar · verdict · Marvel's later formula is compared to fast food where quality control is the achievement; this film is the Subway-or-worse option. · "Like Marvel, when they figure out their formula for better or worse, they become like fast food."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:34 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Hulk ↔ The Incredible Hulk · verdict · Ruffalo, Bixby and Bana all share a haunted Banner; this film prioritizes action over that. · "Right, but let's say, like Ruffalo, Bixby, and Bana all get the same thing that's most important, which is this guy's kind of haunted."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:33:46 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Batman Forever / Batman & Robin (the Schumacher movies) · verdict · Speakers agree the Schumacher films are more engaging than the worst superhero movies. · "I think we both agree that both of the Schumacher movies are at least more engaging in how like..."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:51:43 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Hulk ↔ The Incredible Hulk · verdict · Ang Lee's film is about four-person relationships so lack of scale works there; this one is a perfunctory action film. · "No, and that's an asset to the Angli Hulk because it's just about those relationships."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:00:49 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Iron Man 2 · verdict · A speaker ranks this the worst of the early MCU, below Iron Man 2, which is at least esoteric and fails valiantly. · "Iron 2 is like failing valiantly."
[pairs] The Incredible Hulk ↔ The Avengers · said 6 times in 2 episodes
[pairs] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Hulk · said 5 times in 1 episode
[pairs] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Iron Man · said 4 times in 3 episodes
[pairs] The Incredible Hulk ↔ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) · said 2 times in 1 episode
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:04:38 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · See the opening credits sequence, the only MCU film with one, which retells the origin so it can claim to be a new start. · "Is this the only one with an opening credits sequence?"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:50 · Griffin or David (0.35)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · See the scene where the soda-factory blood contaminates a bottle and Stan Lee's cameo drinks it, and then nothing comes of it. · "Okay, so, 0 my god, who got the soda bottle?"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:30:47 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · Tim Roth's origin: the Hulk breaks every bone in his body and his reaction is to want to be big so he can punch the Hulk back. · "He's like, I want to be big like Hulk so I can punch him back."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:41:19 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · The Italian salami-shop scene: Banner's best friend Pasquale is invented, with the set dressed only with salami. · "Put some salami there."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:52:51 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · Toronto's mayor reportedly lobbied for the Hulk to shoot there; the college-quad fight is a punch-up target. · "Apparently the mayor of Toronto was a big Hulk fan."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:53:37 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Incredible Hulk · fun · Eating the heart-rate monitor chip in the stacks, a sequence a speaker likes. · "I'm liking this scene, though, in which he has to put on his heart rate monitor and hide in the stacks."
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:13:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Avengers ↔ Thor · programming · Thor was treated as a loss leader, a stepping stone to the Avengers. · "Thor was treated as a loss leader, essentially."
[Blank Check — Patreon · In the Cut · 0:09:37 · Griffin Newman (0.60)] In the Cut ↔ Hulk · programming · Both were 2003 films that were derided on release; Hulk is called David's derided film of the year. · "It was your derided film of 2000."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:18:06 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Iron Man 2 · programming · Griffin has a point about Paltrow in Iron Man 2 and promises a separate Iron Man 2 commentary. · "We're going to do an Iron Man 2 commentary so we can talk about the movie I want to talk about there."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:16:00 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 3 ↔ The Avengers · programming · Phase 2 begins here and Avengers' victory lap gave Feige room to let each film feel individual. · "They're on such a victory lap that it feels like this is the one little chunk of time where Kevin Feige lets go a little bit."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:42:44 · Griffin or David (0.30)] The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift ↔ Hulk · programming · Hulk-van talk reminds a speaker of Bow Wow's Hulk-fist BMW in Tokyo Drift. · "And then, of course, in Fast and Furious, Tokyo Drift, Lil Bow Wow drives a whole car."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:48:57 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Thor · programming · The hosts preview the next trio: Thor, Captain America, Avengers; one hates Thor. · "So what our next three is going to be Thor, Captain America, Avengers."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:09 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] The Avengers ↔ Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. · programming · Coulson was brought back for the TV show but kept out of the movies, signaling the TV show is only loosely connected. · "you can be in the TV show, like, because we need, you know, a star for the show"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Ice Storm · 0:35:56 · David Sims (0.55)] The Ice Storm ↔ Hulk · lineage · After loving Hulk, a host went back to the Lee filmography and read The Ice Storm as the family psychodrama behind it. · "And then this movie is like, oh, here's all the weird family psychodrama, which is already contextualized through the Marvel Comics prism."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:01:42 · unknown (Griffin) (0.50)] Iron Man ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Mentions Captain Marvel's upcoming 90s setting and Kamala Khan idolizing her as a possible future movie. · "And then like models herself after Captain Marvel."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:32 · David Sims (0.40)] Captain Marvel ↔ The Avengers · programming · Captain Marvel is a 1990s prequel in which Fury still has both eyes, bringing back Coulson/Fury; they predict nineties-reference gags. · "So in that one, Nick Fury has 2 eyes."
[The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ · 0:36:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Ang Lee ↔ Hulk · theme · Even in a Hulk movie he dislikes, Fennessey sees Lee chasing a battle between two sides of a man. · "There's the 2 sides of a man that he's really interested in that."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:57 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read) · lineage · The Iron Man trilogy is closed into a circle by the flashback to the party and Becca Hall and Pierce. · "as individualistic as this movie is, it actually like... It's bringing the 1st 2 complete."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40)] The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read) · programming · Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list. · "We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Vanilla Sky · 0:24:25 · unknown (0.35)] Hulk ↔ Vanilla Sky · theme · The strongest example of defending a movie against dismissive friends in the speaker's adolescence was Ang Lee's Hulk, like defending Vanilla Sky. · "Drew the line was Anglies Hulk."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:09:11 · unknown (Griffin or David) (0.30)] Iron Man ⇒ modern superhero movies (the host's read) · lineage · Called the prototype format every later superhero film riffs on. · "this is the prototype for the modern superhero movie."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:02:12 · Griffin Newman (0.35)] Thor ↔ The Avengers · programming · The Hawkeye cameo, with no interaction, made the speaker doubt the Avengers team-up would work. · "The thing you want to see is how they talk and interact with each other."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:27:36 · unknown (probably David) (0.40)] Stan Lee ⇒ Iron Man (the maker said so: Stan Lee interviews) · lineage · The film follows the first comic issue's origin; Lee wanted to make an industrialist war profiteer compelling to hippie kids. · "here's like an industrialist, war profiteer, Laos, and make him like compelling to these, like, hippie kids."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:12:08 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man 2 ↔ The Avengers · programming · Feige pushed more cinematic-universe setup after the first film, but held most back; the Fury scene and shield joke are the result. · "Let's build shield outlets, like give them, you know, a little more of what they want."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:05:06 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Batman Begins · lineage · The suit-development process scenes are a funny version of Batman Begins' gadget-building. · "This is like funny version of Batman begins."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:24:59 · Griffin or David (0.25)] William Hurt ↔ The Avengers · programming · Hurt's Ross is the one thread kept through the MCU and the film otherwise sits apart from Ruffalo's Hulk. · "The only kind of thread they keep."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:53:20 · unknown (0.30)] RoboCop ⇒ Iron Man (the host's read) · lineage · The Ironmonger voice and suit recall ED-209, and the finale is ED-209 versus RoboCop. · "You know what the voice is? He's Ed 209."
[speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
[bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)

Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with The Incredible Hulk (2008); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend The Incredible Hulk (2008) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.

Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.

You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.

Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.