The Incredible Hulk (2008)

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Wikidata Q466611, film, IMDb tt0800080, TMDB 1724: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Edward Norton as actor (to be discussed) (Iron Man); 5 more episodes agree.

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In the store as #503, The Incredible Hulk (2008).

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Hulk: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Hulk ⇒ The Incredible Hulk (the host's read). Despite the reboot claim, the same three relationships (Hulk, Betty, Thunderbolt Ross) carry through, as does the South America opening.
    “And those 3 relationships feel very much on a continuity with everything that happens in English film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:06:37 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

The Incredible Hulk: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Incredible Hulk (the host's read). A speaker says the film reuses the old TV show's score, the sad-guitar cue from Bixby walking away, even though Craig Armstrong scored it.
    “They used the score from the Incredible Hulk at some point in this movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:47:14 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

The Avengers: 2 lines the host's read ×2

  1. lineage (lineage): The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read). Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it.
    “That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Captain America (First Avenger / MCU): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. programming (programming): The Incredible Hulk ⇒ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) (the host's read). The hero jumping out of a hangar plane becomes a recurring Marvel image, starting here and used in Black Panther and Captain America.
    “And this is the 1st of what then becomes the Marvel trope where a hero is either pushed out of or jumps out of the back of like a hangar plane.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:31:34 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

Connected to

The Avengers: 6 lines lineage ×3 contrast ×2 industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Avengers → The Incredible Hulk. Pre-Avengers grosses (Iron Man ~300, Hulk ~150, Cap ~170) suggested a glass ceiling; the unaccounted factor was the movie being very good.
    “And then the X factor I wasn't considering was, what if movie very good?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:13:53 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Hulk: 5 lines lineage ×2 verdict ×2 contrast ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Incredible Hulk → Hulk. Despite the reboot claim, the same three relationships (Hulk, Betty, Thunderbolt Ross) carry through, as does the South America opening.
    “And those 3 relationships feel very much on a continuity with everything that happens in English film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:06:37 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

Iron Man: 4 lines theme ×1 programming ×1 industry ×1 contrast ×1

  1. theme (shared MCU characters): The Incredible Hulk → Iron Man. The two characters appearing in the first two MCU films were Hulk and Iron Man.
    “It's the Incredible Hulk and Iron Man, you fools.”
    The Big Picture · Emergency Mailbag: The Oscars Are Streaming and Hollywood Is Fighting Over Trolls | The Big Picture · 1:05:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

Captain America (First Avenger / MCU): 2 lines programming ×2

  1. programming (programming): The Incredible Hulk → Captain America (First Avenger / MCU). The hero jumping out of a hangar plane becomes a recurring Marvel image, starting here and used in Black Panther and Captain America.
    “And this is the 1st of what then becomes the Marvel trope where a hero is either pushed out of or jumps out of the back of like a hangar plane.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:31:34 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

Batman Forever / Batman & Robin (the Schumacher movies): 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): The Incredible Hulk → Batman Forever / Batman & Robin (the Schumacher movies). Speakers agree the Schumacher films are more engaging than the worst superhero movies.
    “I think we both agree that both of the Schumacher movies are at least more engaging in how like...”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:33:46 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice → The Incredible Hulk. The Abomination, like BvS's Doomsday, looks like a mud monster with no texture.
    “It's the same problem as Doomsday in Batman versus Superman, where it's just like, he just looks like a mud monster.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:33:33 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Edward Norton: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Edward Norton → The Incredible Hulk. Norton rewrote Zak Penn's script, cut Rick Jones and more S.H.I.E.L.D., added the flower scene, and lobbied the WGA.
    “Norton takes Rick Jones out.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:18:18 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

Elektra: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Incredible Hulk → Elektra. The Sonic-cannon fight with no stylization feels like the Elektra movie.
    “You know, but this like looks like the Electra movie or whatever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:59:18 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Fast Five: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Incredible Hulk → Fast Five. The film belongs to a 2007-2011 window where everything was set in Rio favelas with rooftop chases, like the Fast and Furious entries.
    “in, like, there's a four-year gap window in Hollywood where they're like, everything should be set in the favelas of Rio.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:07:17 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Fight Club: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Fight Club → The Incredible Hulk. Norton's live-wire narrator in Fight Club was a blueprint for a Banner performance, yet he is boring in this.
    “the narrator in Fight Club kind of feels like a perfect show reel for a Bruce Banner performance, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:06 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Hulk with Adam Sandler / Jim Carrey (unmade): 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): The Incredible Hulk → Hulk with Adam Sandler / Jim Carrey (unmade). They recall a development-era idea of a 90s comedy Hulk with Adam Sandler getting angry, covered in their earlier Hulk episode, plus Jack Black's Green Lantern.
    “They tried to develop as, like, what if Adam Sandler was the Hulk and when he gets angry?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:42:56 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

Interstellar: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): The Incredible Hulk → Interstellar. Marvel's later formula is compared to fast food where quality control is the achievement; this film is the Subway-or-worse option.
    “Like Marvel, when they figure out their formula for better or worse, they become like fast food.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:19:32 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Iron Man 2: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): The Incredible Hulk → Iron Man 2. A speaker ranks this the worst of the early MCU, below Iron Man 2, which is at least esoteric and fails valiantly.
    “Iron 2 is like failing valiantly.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:00:49 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

James Schamus: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): James Schamus → The Incredible Hulk. Schamus's actual Hulk 2 pitch was about Native American reservations rather than Hulk fights; Zak Penn's conventional version is what got made.
    “He mostly just talked about Native American reservations and how that land is continually being exploited and how it's more trenchant than ever now.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:05:47 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

Louis Leterrier: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Louis Leterrier → The Incredible Hulk. Leterrier is said to have based the film closely on Jeph Loeb's comic Hulk: Gray.
    “So apparently Louis Letierrier based this very intently on Jeff Loeb's Hulk Gray, which no one remembers or likes.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:14:45 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Sony: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Incredible Hulk → Sony. Universal's Hulk rights and Marvel's creative control are likened to the Sony Spider-Man deal.
    “The the Sony Spider-Man deal.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:04:16 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

The Amazing Spider-Man 2: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Amazing Spider-Man 2 → The Incredible Hulk. Told as a tangent on bad superhero origins: Tim Roth's Abomination origin ('I want to be big like Hulk') triggers a retelling of Electro's origin.
    “Ben, do you know electro's origin and Amazing Spider-Man 2?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:31:00 · Griffin or David (0.40 sure it was them)

The Consultant: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): The Consultant → The Incredible Hulk. The short on the Thor Blu-ray explains Tony's cameo as a ploy to sabotage the recruitment of Blonsky.
    “They see him as a war hero and blame the devastation of Harlem and Bruce Banner.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:51:33 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

The Incredible Hulk: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Incredible Hulk → The Incredible Hulk. A speaker says the film reuses the old TV show's score, the sad-guitar cue from Bixby walking away, even though Craig Armstrong scored it.
    “They used the score from the Incredible Hulk at some point in this movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:47:14 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

The Italian Job: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Italian Job → The Incredible Hulk. Norton gives either a gun-to-the-head performance (Italian Job) or 110 percent; this is the one film that feels uneven.
    “There are movies like the Italian job where like Paramount forced him to be in it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:15:40 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

The Scorpion King: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Incredible Hulk → The Scorpion King. Norton's table hulk-out is compared to the Scorpion King bug-man CGI at the end of The Mummy Returns.
    “Awful. That looks like scorpion king shit.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:21:49 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Watchmen: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Watchmen → The Incredible Hulk. A Hulk nudity joke leads to complaining that Watchmen's Dr. Manhattan penis was rendered when the comic gave it one line.
    “You got to realize that for like 20 years they were like, they're never going to be able to make a Watchman movie that they do their censor it and they won't even show his dick.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:59:36 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

X2 / X3 / Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Incredible Hulk → X2 / X3 / Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. Toronto doubled for Harlem like Vancouver forests recurred in Fox superhero movies.
    “They always meet in this one forest and you're like, is it, do all forests look the same?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:53:28 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

contrast (8)

  1. contrast (contrast): The Italian Job → The Incredible Hulk. Norton gives either a gun-to-the-head performance (Italian Job) or 110 percent; this is the one film that feels uneven.
    “There are movies like the Italian job where like Paramount forced him to be in it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:15:40 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): Fight Club → The Incredible Hulk. Norton's live-wire narrator in Fight Club was a blueprint for a Banner performance, yet he is boring in this.
    “the narrator in Fight Club kind of feels like a perfect show reel for a Bruce Banner performance, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:06 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast): The Avengers → The Incredible Hulk. Avengers' Hulk transformation is frightening and feels large; here it is cartoony.
    “The Hulk's transformation is frightening.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:27:25 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. contrast (contrast): The Amazing Spider-Man 2 → The Incredible Hulk. Told as a tangent on bad superhero origins: Tim Roth's Abomination origin ('I want to be big like Hulk') triggers a retelling of Electro's origin.
    “Ben, do you know electro's origin and Amazing Spider-Man 2?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:31:00 · Griffin or David (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. contrast (contrast): The Incredible Hulk → Elektra. The Sonic-cannon fight with no stylization feels like the Elektra movie.
    “You know, but this like looks like the Electra movie or whatever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:59:18 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. contrast (contrast): The Avengers → The Incredible Hulk. Avengers uses a six-block radius around Grand Central for storytelling; this film picked Harlem but could be anywhere.
    “They like pick that like 6 block radius around Grand Central.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:39:10 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. contrast (contrast): Hulk → The Incredible Hulk. Ang Lee's Hulk makes jumping and falling spiritual in the desert, while this film's rooftop jumping looks like the Flatiron District.
    “It's way cooler in the Angling Hulk when jumping and falling is like spiritual.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:46:28 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  8. contrast (contrast): Iron Man → The Incredible Hulk. Hulk is what Marvel wanted all its movies to look like, and it is generic and lacks personality; Iron Man came out first and lucked into its looseness.
    “that's what they, I think, wanted all these movies to look like, and it's so generic and lacking in any sort of personality.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:04:50 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

craft (2)

  1. craft (craft): The Incredible Hulk → The Scorpion King. Norton's table hulk-out is compared to the Scorpion King bug-man CGI at the end of The Mummy Returns.
    “Awful. That looks like scorpion king shit.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:21:49 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice → The Incredible Hulk. The Abomination, like BvS's Doomsday, looks like a mud monster with no texture.
    “It's the same problem as Doomsday in Batman versus Superman, where it's just like, he just looks like a mud monster.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:33:33 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

industry (6)

  1. industry (industry): The Avengers → The Incredible Hulk. Pre-Avengers grosses (Iron Man ~300, Hulk ~150, Cap ~170) suggested a glass ceiling; the unaccounted factor was the movie being very good.
    “And then the X factor I wasn't considering was, what if movie very good?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:13:53 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry): The Incredible Hulk → Sony. Universal's Hulk rights and Marvel's creative control are likened to the Sony Spider-Man deal.
    “The the Sony Spider-Man deal.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:04:16 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. industry (industry): The Incredible Hulk → Fast Five. The film belongs to a 2007-2011 window where everything was set in Rio favelas with rooftop chases, like the Fast and Furious entries.
    “in, like, there's a four-year gap window in Hollywood where they're like, everything should be set in the favelas of Rio.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:07:17 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. industry (industry): The Incredible Hulk → X2 / X3 / Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. Toronto doubled for Harlem like Vancouver forests recurred in Fox superhero movies.
    “They always meet in this one forest and you're like, is it, do all forests look the same?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:53:28 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. industry (industry): Watchmen → The Incredible Hulk. A Hulk nudity joke leads to complaining that Watchmen's Dr. Manhattan penis was rendered when the comic gave it one line.
    “You got to realize that for like 20 years they were like, they're never going to be able to make a Watchman movie that they do their censor it and they won't even show his dick.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:59:36 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. industry (industry): Iron Man → The Incredible Hulk. Hulk remained at Universal, which helped make a new Hulk, so Marvel's Paramount five-picture deal excluded it.
    “So Hulk was still set up at Universal, and they were able to be like, we'll help you make a new Hulk.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:21:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

lineage (7)

  1. lineage (lineage): The Incredible Hulk → Hulk. A speaker says the opening credits re-establish the origin so the film can claim to be a new beginning rather than a direct sequel to Ang Lee's film.
    “So this is why people say, oh, it this isn't a direct sequel to Angly because they make the...”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:04:49 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): The Incredible Hulk → Hulk. Despite the reboot claim, the same three relationships (Hulk, Betty, Thunderbolt Ross) carry through, as does the South America opening.
    “And those 3 relationships feel very much on a continuity with everything that happens in English film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:06:37 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage): Louis Leterrier → The Incredible Hulk. Leterrier is said to have based the film closely on Jeph Loeb's comic Hulk: Gray.
    “So apparently Louis Letierrier based this very intently on Jeff Loeb's Hulk Gray, which no one remembers or likes.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:14:45 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (lineage): The Incredible Hulk → The Avengers. Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out.
    “The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25 sure it was them)
  5. lineage (lineage): The Avengers → The Incredible Hulk. Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it.
    “That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. lineage (lineage): The Incredible Hulk → The Incredible Hulk. A speaker says the film reuses the old TV show's score, the sad-guitar cue from Bixby walking away, even though Craig Armstrong scored it.
    “They used the score from the Incredible Hulk at some point in this movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:47:14 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  7. lineage (lineage): The Incredible Hulk → The Avengers. Tony's end cameo promises a team that Iron Man's Avengers arc and Nick Fury's pitch in Iron Man 2 contradict; a Blu-ray one-shot was needed to patch it.
    “So this is one of those things where they just like rewrite the film's 3 movies later because chest beaten's like, that makes no sense.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:49:27 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (people): Edward Norton → The Incredible Hulk. Norton rewrote Zak Penn's script, cut Rick Jones and more S.H.I.E.L.D., added the flower scene, and lobbied the WGA.
    “Norton takes Rick Jones out.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:18:18 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

programming (4)

  1. programming (programming): Iron Man → The Incredible Hulk. Both Iron Man's post-credits Fury scene and Tony's Hulk cameo got audiences cheering, building the idea of a shared universe.
    “I was so invested in the idea, which seems hilarious now of a cinematic universe.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:23:12 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. programming (programming): The Incredible Hulk → Captain America (First Avenger / MCU). The WWII super-soldier line makes theater audiences excited for a Captain America reference, a habit Iron Man 2 repeats.
    “Iron Man 2 is the guiltiest of that.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:36:32 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. programming (programming): The Incredible Hulk → Captain America (First Avenger / MCU). The hero jumping out of a hangar plane becomes a recurring Marvel image, starting here and used in Black Panther and Captain America.
    “And this is the 1st of what then becomes the Marvel trope where a hero is either pushed out of or jumps out of the back of like a hangar plane.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:31:34 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)
  4. programming (programming): The Consultant → The Incredible Hulk. The short on the Thor Blu-ray explains Tony's cameo as a ploy to sabotage the recruitment of Blonsky.
    “They see him as a war hero and blame the devastation of Harlem and Bruce Banner.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:51:33 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

theme (1)

  1. theme (shared MCU characters): The Incredible Hulk → Iron Man. The two characters appearing in the first two MCU films were Hulk and Iron Man.
    “It's the Incredible Hulk and Iron Man, you fools.”
    The Big Picture · Emergency Mailbag: The Oscars Are Streaming and Hollywood Is Fighting Over Trolls | The Big Picture · 1:05:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

verdict (5)

  1. verdict (verdict): The Incredible Hulk → Interstellar. Marvel's later formula is compared to fast food where quality control is the achievement; this film is the Subway-or-worse option.
    “Like Marvel, when they figure out their formula for better or worse, they become like fast food.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:19:32 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (verdict): Hulk → The Incredible Hulk. Ruffalo, Bixby and Bana all share a haunted Banner; this film prioritizes action over that.
    “Right, but let's say, like Ruffalo, Bixby, and Bana all get the same thing that's most important, which is this guy's kind of haunted.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:34 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. verdict (verdict): The Incredible Hulk → Batman Forever / Batman & Robin (the Schumacher movies). Speakers agree the Schumacher films are more engaging than the worst superhero movies.
    “I think we both agree that both of the Schumacher movies are at least more engaging in how like...”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:33:46 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. verdict (verdict): Hulk → The Incredible Hulk. Ang Lee's film is about four-person relationships so lack of scale works there; this one is a perfunctory action film.
    “No, and that's an asset to the Angli Hulk because it's just about those relationships.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:51:43 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. verdict (verdict): The Incredible Hulk → Iron Man 2. A speaker ranks this the worst of the early MCU, below Iron Man 2, which is at least esoteric and fails valiantly.
    “Iron 2 is like failing valiantly.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:00:49 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

what-if (2)

  1. what-if (what-if): James Schamus → The Incredible Hulk. Schamus's actual Hulk 2 pitch was about Native American reservations rather than Hulk fights; Zak Penn's conventional version is what got made.
    “He mostly just talked about Native American reservations and how that land is continually being exploited and how it's more trenchant than ever now.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:05:47 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (what-if): The Incredible Hulk → Hulk with Adam Sandler / Jim Carrey (unmade). They recall a development-era idea of a 90s comedy Hulk with Adam Sandler getting angry, covered in their earlier Hulk episode, plus Jack Black's Green Lantern.
    “They tried to develop as, like, what if Adam Sandler was the Hulk and when he gets angry?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:42:56 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: See the opening credits sequence, the only MCU film with one, which retells the origin so it can claim to be a new start.
    “Is this the only one with an opening credits sequence?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:04:38 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: See the scene where the soda-factory blood contaminates a bottle and Stan Lee's cameo drinks it, and then nothing comes of it.
    “Okay, so, 0 my god, who got the soda bottle?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:50 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: Tim Roth's origin: the Hulk breaks every bone in his body and his reaction is to want to be big so he can punch the Hulk back.
    “He's like, I want to be big like Hulk so I can punch him back.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:30:47 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: The Italian salami-shop scene: Banner's best friend Pasquale is invented, with the set dressed only with salami.
    “Put some salami there.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:41:19 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: Toronto's mayor reportedly lobbied for the Hulk to shoot there; the college-quad fight is a punch-up target.
    “Apparently the mayor of Toronto was a big Hulk fan.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:52:51 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: Eating the heart-rate monitor chip in the stacks, a sequence a speaker likes.
    “I'm liking this scene, though, in which he has to put on his heart rate monitor and hide in the stacks.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:53:37 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: Proposed punch-up: a college tour walks through the quad fight and the Hulk interrupts a hacky sack game by throwing fuselage.
    “He interrupts some guys playing hacky sack.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:57:06 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: The Hulk's cave scene in the rain is called a bad video game cutscene; the hosts say they would usually love it.
    “And I would even usually like this kind of shit.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:03:24 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  9. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: The high-heart-rate sex scene: Banner cannot do it, a concept called a boardroom idea.
    “They're having sex?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:10:15 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  10. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: Tim Blake Nelson is the only one bringing energy while Norton is called sleepy.
    “He's definitely trying to bring some energy as Ed Norton is essentially falling asleep in this movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:24:00 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  11. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: The Leader's ice-pack head is likened to Martians from Mars Attacks.
    “He looks like the Mars attacked Martians.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:27:07 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  12. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: Michael K. Williams of The Wire has one shot as a man running from a car in Harlem.
    “12nd cameo as guy who runs away from a car.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:32:30 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  13. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: Plot beat: Hurt and Ross banter on the plane while Blonsky wants to fight; the 'make him angry' method is mocked with Don Rickles on speaker.
    “They put Don Rickles on speaker.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:35:11 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  14. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: The Abomination has no pants; his private part turned into a spine.
    “Turned into a spine.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:38:58 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  15. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: The Hulk's thunderclap is shown on screen and the host jokes it should happen to a song that says clap your hands.
    “There he does his famous Thunderclap.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:42:22 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  16. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: The ending was likely a reshoot, with Liv Tyler on a CGI pier; Lou Ferrigno voices the Hulk and the TV theme and sad guitar are echoed in the score.
    “This was definitely a reshoots ending, look, because it's like hardcore CGI.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:46:38 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  17. fun, about The Incredible Hulk: Tie-in trivia: 7-Eleven Incredible Gulp Slurpees, Kmart Incredible Dad gifts, and a Blu-ray disc that turns green.
    “releasing it on green ray.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:47:54 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.