The Shape of Water (2017)

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Wikidata Q26698156, film, IMDb tt5580390, TMDB 399055: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Guillermo del Toro as director (‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt!); 1 more episode agrees.

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Who talked about it

The Big Picture

Came from

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Led to

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Connected to

Get Out: 2 lines verdict ×1 contrast ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Get Out → The Shape of Water. Any of Get Out, Lady Bird or Phantom Thread should have beaten The Shape of Water.
    “3 options over the shape of water, get out, Ladybird or Phantom Thread, take your pick.”
    The Big Picture · Thirteen Awards Movies to Watch Out for, Oscar Do-Overs, and More From the Mailbag · 0:41:23 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)

Nightmare Alley: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (same filmmaker, tonal opposite): Nightmare Alley → The Shape of Water. Both are Del Toro and Kim Morgan scripts, but this one has no way out where the earlier films stay hopeful.
    “Yeah, they're often pretty hopeful and they often look on the bright side, ultimately, and they often feature children kind of emerging from traumatic circumstances.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt! · 0:11:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

contrast (2)

  1. contrast (same filmmaker, tonal opposite): Nightmare Alley → The Shape of Water. Both are Del Toro and Kim Morgan scripts, but this one has no way out where the earlier films stay hopeful.
    “Yeah, they're often pretty hopeful and they often look on the bright side, ultimately, and they often feature children kind of emerging from traumatic circumstances.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt! · 0:11:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): The Shape of Water → Get Out. Shape of Water won in a soft year because nobody was comfortable giving it to Get Out, Dunkirk, Lady Bird or Three Billboards.
    “Nobody feels comfortable giving it to get out or to Dunkirk or to Ladybird, or even a 3 billboards.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:25:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

verdict (1)

  1. verdict (verdict): Get Out → The Shape of Water. Any of Get Out, Lady Bird or Phantom Thread should have beaten The Shape of Water.
    “3 options over the shape of water, get out, Ladybird or Phantom Thread, take your pick.”
    The Big Picture · Thirteen Awards Movies to Watch Out for, Oscar Do-Overs, and More From the Mailbag · 0:41:23 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)

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