What the corpus says about Wonder Woman (2017)

The 59 lines php artisan corpus:ask hands a model, in the order it gets them, and nothing else. The model writes a clerk's answer from these and only these.

What was said about it (13)

[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 1:02:48 · Sean Fennessey (0.75)] Wonder Woman ↔ Kingdom Come · lineage · Sean points to Alex Ross's 90s comic Kingdom Come, where an elderly Wonder Woman and Batman had a thing. · "you got the sense that Wonder Woman and Batman had a thing, but they no longer got along anymore."
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:24:27 · Jason Concepcion (0.40)] Wonder Woman ↔ Batman Begins · lineage · Wonder Woman is the first DC movie since the Nolan films that understands what it is. · "Wonder Woman is the 1st movie that they've made."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:06:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Shazam! ↔ Wonder Woman · theme · Both films, in Miles's view, start clever and then end in a punching match with a monster or villain. · "That was also one of my struggles, honestly, with Wonder Woman"
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:17:07 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Captain Marvel ↔ Wonder Woman · theme · Wonder Woman, like Superman, is a god and needs less emotional complexity; Carol Danvers is a real person who is blank for most of the film. · "Wonder Woman, likes Superman, is a god. And the levels of emotional complexity that we expect from a god are lesser than a real person."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:57:48 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80)] Wonder Woman ↔ Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens · theme · Both Wonder Woman's Amazons and Rey getting the lightsaber hit Amanda with a symbolic reaction, despite her not being a franchise person. · "I felt the same way when Ray gets the lightsaber in, in the Force Awakens"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 1:38:16 · David Sims (0.35)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Wonder Woman · theme · CTHD tapped into female strength that Wonder Woman had to catch up to 18 years later. · "this movie was tapping into things that Wonder Woman would have to like run around to 18 years later."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:03:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Wonder Woman ↔ Captain Marvel · craft · Wonder Woman did its origin story in the first 30 minutes and moved on; Captain Marvel spends the whole film on it. · "What Wonder Woman did was gave us the best version of its origin story in the 1st 30 minutes, and then we were kind of done with that."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:01:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80)] Captain Marvel ↔ Wonder Woman · contrast · Amanda's instant reaction is that Captain Marvel falls short of Wonder Woman, a high bar. · "my immediate reaction was this is not Wonder Woman."
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:29:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] Wonder Woman ↔ Suicide Squad · contrast · Wonder Woman does not react to anything else; Suicide Squad and Batman v Superman do. · "Wonder Woman is the 1st DCU movie that doesn't feel reactionary to something else that has happened."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:09:17 · Miles Surrey (0.85)] Shazam! ↔ Wonder Woman · verdict · Miles was less of a fan of Wonder Woman than others were. · "I personally wasn't as big of a fan as as Wonder Woman, as other people were"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:02:44 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Wonder Woman · industry · Marvel can present a first female-led MCU film as a milestone even after Wonder Woman. · "Marvel is so big that it can actually pretend that's a milestone."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:06:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Wonder Woman ↔ David Thewlis · people · The Wonder Woman finale had Diana fighting a demon monster played by Thewlis. · "ultimately just turned into Diana fighting like a demon monster, who was played by David Thulas"
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:22:51 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Wonder Woman ↔ Patty Jenkins · people · Jenkins choosing to make Wonder Woman is the Marvel blueprint of finding the right filmmaker, unlike Snyder. · "Patty Jenkins has chosen to make that movie."

Films put beside it more than once (2)

[pairs] Wonder Woman ↔ Captain Marvel · said 3 times in 1 episode
[pairs] Wonder Woman ↔ Shazam! · said 2 times in 1 episode

Fun items about it (1)

[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:56:50 · Amanda Dobbins (0.75)] Wonder Woman · fun · Amanda rewatched Wonder Woman the night before and still cried at the Amazons on the beach. · "Catch me out here crying about it."

One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (37)

[Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:59:57 · unknown (0.30)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Captain Marvel provides context for the Nova Corps Cree and a not-yet-crazy Ronan, and Jude Law's Yon-Rogg. · "But the idea in Captain Marvel is he's not crazy yet."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:07:21 · Miles Surrey (0.85)] Shazam! ↔ Black Adam (planned) · programming · Miles expects Shazam! to lead into Shazam 2 or a Black Adam movie. · "it's just leading into Shazam 2 or maybe like a Black Adam movie"
[Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:47:48 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Batman Begins ⇒ RoboCop (the host's read) · lineage · The remake is part of the grounded-and-serious wave that followed Nolan; the speakers say this film marks the end of it. · "The Batman begins effect."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · Marvel gives each film a different genre; Winter Soldier is the political thriller, Iron Man 3 the noir/buddy film. · "Right. So this is when they're like, Iron Man 3 is sort of like a noir and like a buddy film, Dark World is like high fantasy."
[The Big Picture · Did Disney’s ‘Mulan’ Experiment Work? A Binge Mode Investigation · 0:28:58 · Jason Concepcion (0.80)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ⇒ Mulan (the host's read) · lineage · The remake's wuxia/mystical style follows the wave of Chinese films that grew popular after Crouching Tiger and the Zhang Yimou films. · "they've gotten very big, kind of post, crouching tiger hidden dragon, and the Jang Yi-Mu films"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:34:42 · unknown (0.40)] Samuel L. Jackson ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Hosts are excited to see Jackson as a younger Nick Fury again. · "Can't wait for him to do stuff again in like Captain Marvel and shit."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:03:27 · Miles Surrey (0.85)] Shazam! ↔ Amblin · lineage · Miles says Shazam! has the throwback coming-of-age feel of 1980s Amblin movies. · "something you would see from like ambling in like the 80s"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:05:06 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Batman Begins · lineage · The suit-development process scenes are a funny version of Batman Begins' gadget-building. · "This is like funny version of Batman begins."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Dark World is the high-fantasy entry in the same one-genre-per-film scheme. · "Dark World is like high fantasy."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:23:14 · David Sims (0.40)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Westerns (genre) · lineage · Lee reviving an old genre like making a Western, but engineered for a worldwide audience. · "It was like if somebody made a Western, but it also was implicitly built to and engineered to appeal to a worldwide audience as much as it appealed to an American one."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:32 · David Sims (0.40)] Captain Marvel ↔ The Avengers · programming · Captain Marvel is a 1990s prequel in which Fury still has both eyes, bringing back Coulson/Fury; they predict nineties-reference gags. · "So in that one, Nick Fury has 2 eyes."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:04:17 · Sean Fennessey (0.90)] Big ⇒ Shazam! (the host's read) · lineage · Fennessey calls Shazam! essentially Big as a superhero movie. · "the movie is clearly pitched as sort of what if big but superhero"
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:07:52 · Jason Concepcion (0.50)] Batman Begins ↔ Iron Man · theme · Both the late-90s Batman films and the X-Men films hid the comic-book look; Marvel instead embraced what was authentic about its characters. · "They're very abashed to be like, this is a comic book movie."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:16:47 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Marvel Cinematic Universe · programming · Fury is in charge of SHIELD only in this film and Avengers; afterward mostly cameos. · "So this is only the only other movie where Fury is like in charge of S.E.L.D. and kind of just like in the movie."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:24:55 · David Sims (0.40)] King Hu ⇒ Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (the host's read) · lineage · CTHD plays in the milieu of King Hu and the wuxia classics, but with a more modern sensibility. · "this movie is playing in a, in a Milu that is inherent to like King Hu movies and Musha, like the classics"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:01:42 · unknown (Griffin) (0.50)] Iron Man ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Mentions Captain Marvel's upcoming 90s setting and Kamala Khan idolizing her as a possible future movie. · "And then like models herself after Captain Marvel."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:14:30 · David F. Sandberg (0.95)] Big ⇒ Shazam! (the maker said so: Sandberg, in this interview, on the studio pitch) · lineage · Sandberg says the studio pitched it to him as Big with superpowers. · "it's basically uh, big, but with superpowers"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:26:28 · David Sims (0.50)] The Lego Batman Movie ↔ Batman Begins · theme · The pit-and-rope lesson in Batman Begins is the one other time Batman learns anything about himself. · "Then it begins does."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:16:27 · unknown (0.45)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Iron Man 2 · programming · Gary Shandling's Hydra senator is an odd pull-back to Iron Man 2 for a franchise otherwise ignoring that film. · "when they're like trying to ignore as much of Iron Man 2 as possible"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 1:07:21 · Griffin Newman (0.30)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Last Action Hero · lineage · Jen worshipping Shu Lien and living her dreamed-of story is very Last Action Hero. · "It's very last action hero."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:03:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · The film goes back to the Steve Rogers style of origin story. · "here's how Steve Rogers became a super soldier style of storytelling."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:29:53 · David F. Sandberg (0.95)] Annabelle: Creation ↔ Shazam! · theme · Sandberg liked that, like Annabelle: Creation, Shazam! sits in a shared universe but stands as its own story. · "even though it is a sequel in this part of the universe, it was a prequel with all new characters and like a new story"
[Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:52:38 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] RoboCop ↔ Batman Begins · craft · The black rubber suit and the motorcycle read as Nolan's Batman, not as a robot. · "And then the suit looks very Nolan Batman."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:34:33 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Agents of S.H.I.L.E.L.D. · programming · The TV show had to stall its whole first season because the film's Hydra reveal could not be tipped. · "Of course, the 1st season of SHIELD began in 2013 and had to essentially stall for almost its entire 1st season because they knew that this was coming, but they couldn't tip it."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 1:46:30 · David Ehrlich (0.35)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Brokeback Mountain · lineage · CTHD as the first of Lee's 'fuck mountain diptych' of transgressive sex movies, with Brokeback. · "This is the 1st of Angley's fuck mountain diptych."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] The Avengers ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · The Tesseract, the glowing box, was a MacGuffin in the first Avengers and in Infinity War. · "you may remember the Tesseract from the 1st Avengers film, and then, of course, the most recent Avengers film, Avengers Infinity War"
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:23:14 · David F. Sandberg (0.95)] Annabelle: Creation ↔ Shazam! · craft · Sandberg brought back his Annabelle: Creation costume designer, who had not done a superhero suit before. · "costume designer, Leah Butler, who I worked with on Alba Creation"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:34:59 · unknown (0.35)] Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ↔ Captain America: The Winter Soldier · programming · Marvel then told ABC SHIELD would not exist for the film universe. · "Just so you know, Shield's not going to exist enough."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:30:13 · David Ehrlich (0.45)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Sense and Sensibility · theme · Ang Lee's bottled-emotion movies; CTHD as Sense and Sensibility with a magic sword. · "This is one of his great bottled emotion movies, which is like a big running theme for people who don't know how to express those. Sensibility with a magic sword."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Captain Marvel ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · lineage · The film is connective tissue, dragging continuity toward the next Avengers movie. · "this movie is basically a connective tissue movie."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:26:01 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Terminator 2: Judgment Day ⇒ Shazam! (the host's read) · craft · Fennessey asks whether an effects shot echoes the T-1000 reassembling in Terminator 2; Sandberg agrees he references other films. · "this is basically that shot in Terminator 2, when the T 1000 gets, you know, comes back together and rises up"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:59:18 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Disney+ Falcon and Bucky show · programming · Smaller side-character projects are the future on Disney Plus. · "That feels like what Disney Plus is going to be with the like Falcon and Bucky show and the Scarlet Wish show."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:37:29 · Griffin Newman (0.30)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Sense and Sensibility · theme · After 15 minutes the movie goes full Jane Austen. · "But like 15 minutes later, when the movie goes full, Jane Austen"
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:18:39 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Pulp Fiction ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · Samuel L. Jackson driving around mid-90s Los Angeles evokes Jules Winfield, a clever but surface 90s nod. · "a Samuel L. Jackson character in the mid 90s driving around in a car in Los Angeles, a la Jules Winfield in Pulp Fiction."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:26:01 · David F. Sandberg (0.70)] War of the Worlds ⇒ Shazam! (the maker said so: Sandberg, in this interview) · craft · Sandberg wanted buildings to explode as in Spielberg's War of the Worlds when the tripods fire. · "the buildings explode in War of the Worlds, the Spielbergs, you know, when the tripods shoot through the buildings"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:59:26 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Loki · programming · The Loki show hired a Rick and Morty writer; time-traveling premise. · "have you heard the premise of the Loki show and they hired a Rick and Morty writer?"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:42:52 · David Ehrlich (0.55)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Lady Bird · theme · Seen as a coming-of-age story where Jen is the surrogate daughter holding the adults together and apart. · "I never really looked at it through this lens until I was just, you know, on ambient and trying to apply ladybird quotes to everything"

Who said it, by their latest sketch (5)

[speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
[speaker] Amanda Dobbins · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · Loves The Strangers' withholding craft and a good tense horror film without gore, but likes fun, communal movies like Mamma Mia. She dislikes supernatural or gory horror, which irritates her more than it scares her. She is a sucker for stars and for Googling a movie mid-recording. · stances: The Strangers is scary because of what it doesn't show or explain; Ending explanation weakens it; no answer would be better; Prefers 'withholding' filmmaking; Defends Mamma Mia as joyful and intentional
[speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
[speaker] Jason Concepcion · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Did Disney’s ‘Mulan’ Experiment Work? A Binge Mode Investigation · Loves a musical, Donnie Yen action, and the 1998 Mulan with its Eddie Murphy humor. Finds the remake kind of boring and wants a grounded, historical version. Sucker for political and economic framing of film controversy. · stances: The remake is fine in a vacuum, a disappointment as a Mulan; Wants a more historical, less magical take; Sees the Mulan controversy as a symptom of the West-China economic experiment; Missing music means missing storytelling
[speaker] Miles Surrey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · Miles prefers the grounded first half of Shazam! to the CGI villain half, has some Marvel fatigue, and likes the DC standalone approach. He was less taken with Wonder Woman than most. He enjoys talking about actors who transform. · stances: Shazam! is best as a what-if about a kid with powers; Superhero final fights are derivative; Marvel fatigue makes DC's standalone approach appealing

The shows' running bits (1)

[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)

The whole prompt

As the model gets it, from app/Ai/Prompts/CorpusAsk.md

You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished Wonder Woman (2017) and wants to know what to watch next.

Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about Wonder Woman (2017) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion.

[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 1:02:48 · Sean Fennessey (0.75)] Wonder Woman ↔ Kingdom Come · lineage · Sean points to Alex Ross's 90s comic Kingdom Come, where an elderly Wonder Woman and Batman had a thing. · "you got the sense that Wonder Woman and Batman had a thing, but they no longer got along anymore."
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:24:27 · Jason Concepcion (0.40)] Wonder Woman ↔ Batman Begins · lineage · Wonder Woman is the first DC movie since the Nolan films that understands what it is. · "Wonder Woman is the 1st movie that they've made."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:06:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Shazam! ↔ Wonder Woman · theme · Both films, in Miles's view, start clever and then end in a punching match with a monster or villain. · "That was also one of my struggles, honestly, with Wonder Woman"
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:17:07 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Captain Marvel ↔ Wonder Woman · theme · Wonder Woman, like Superman, is a god and needs less emotional complexity; Carol Danvers is a real person who is blank for most of the film. · "Wonder Woman, likes Superman, is a god. And the levels of emotional complexity that we expect from a god are lesser than a real person."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:57:48 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80)] Wonder Woman ↔ Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens · theme · Both Wonder Woman's Amazons and Rey getting the lightsaber hit Amanda with a symbolic reaction, despite her not being a franchise person. · "I felt the same way when Ray gets the lightsaber in, in the Force Awakens"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 1:38:16 · David Sims (0.35)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Wonder Woman · theme · CTHD tapped into female strength that Wonder Woman had to catch up to 18 years later. · "this movie was tapping into things that Wonder Woman would have to like run around to 18 years later."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:03:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Wonder Woman ↔ Captain Marvel · craft · Wonder Woman did its origin story in the first 30 minutes and moved on; Captain Marvel spends the whole film on it. · "What Wonder Woman did was gave us the best version of its origin story in the 1st 30 minutes, and then we were kind of done with that."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:01:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80)] Captain Marvel ↔ Wonder Woman · contrast · Amanda's instant reaction is that Captain Marvel falls short of Wonder Woman, a high bar. · "my immediate reaction was this is not Wonder Woman."
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:29:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] Wonder Woman ↔ Suicide Squad · contrast · Wonder Woman does not react to anything else; Suicide Squad and Batman v Superman do. · "Wonder Woman is the 1st DCU movie that doesn't feel reactionary to something else that has happened."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:09:17 · Miles Surrey (0.85)] Shazam! ↔ Wonder Woman · verdict · Miles was less of a fan of Wonder Woman than others were. · "I personally wasn't as big of a fan as as Wonder Woman, as other people were"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:02:44 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Wonder Woman · industry · Marvel can present a first female-led MCU film as a milestone even after Wonder Woman. · "Marvel is so big that it can actually pretend that's a milestone."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:06:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Wonder Woman ↔ David Thewlis · people · The Wonder Woman finale had Diana fighting a demon monster played by Thewlis. · "ultimately just turned into Diana fighting like a demon monster, who was played by David Thulas"
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:22:51 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Wonder Woman ↔ Patty Jenkins · people · Jenkins choosing to make Wonder Woman is the Marvel blueprint of finding the right filmmaker, unlike Snyder. · "Patty Jenkins has chosen to make that movie."
[pairs] Wonder Woman ↔ Captain Marvel · said 3 times in 1 episode
[pairs] Wonder Woman ↔ Shazam! · said 2 times in 1 episode
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:56:50 · Amanda Dobbins (0.75)] Wonder Woman · fun · Amanda rewatched Wonder Woman the night before and still cried at the Amazons on the beach. · "Catch me out here crying about it."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:59:57 · unknown (0.30)] Guardians of the Galaxy ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Captain Marvel provides context for the Nova Corps Cree and a not-yet-crazy Ronan, and Jude Law's Yon-Rogg. · "But the idea in Captain Marvel is he's not crazy yet."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:07:21 · Miles Surrey (0.85)] Shazam! ↔ Black Adam (planned) · programming · Miles expects Shazam! to lead into Shazam 2 or a Black Adam movie. · "it's just leading into Shazam 2 or maybe like a Black Adam movie"
[Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:47:48 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] Batman Begins ⇒ RoboCop (the host's read) · lineage · The remake is part of the grounded-and-serious wave that followed Nolan; the speakers say this film marks the end of it. · "The Batman begins effect."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Iron Man 3 · programming · Marvel gives each film a different genre; Winter Soldier is the political thriller, Iron Man 3 the noir/buddy film. · "Right. So this is when they're like, Iron Man 3 is sort of like a noir and like a buddy film, Dark World is like high fantasy."
[The Big Picture · Did Disney’s ‘Mulan’ Experiment Work? A Binge Mode Investigation · 0:28:58 · Jason Concepcion (0.80)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ⇒ Mulan (the host's read) · lineage · The remake's wuxia/mystical style follows the wave of Chinese films that grew popular after Crouching Tiger and the Zhang Yimou films. · "they've gotten very big, kind of post, crouching tiger hidden dragon, and the Jang Yi-Mu films"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:34:42 · unknown (0.40)] Samuel L. Jackson ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Hosts are excited to see Jackson as a younger Nick Fury again. · "Can't wait for him to do stuff again in like Captain Marvel and shit."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:03:27 · Miles Surrey (0.85)] Shazam! ↔ Amblin · lineage · Miles says Shazam! has the throwback coming-of-age feel of 1980s Amblin movies. · "something you would see from like ambling in like the 80s"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:05:06 · unknown (0.30)] Iron Man ↔ Batman Begins · lineage · The suit-development process scenes are a funny version of Batman Begins' gadget-building. · "This is like funny version of Batman begins."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Thor: The Dark World · programming · Dark World is the high-fantasy entry in the same one-genre-per-film scheme. · "Dark World is like high fantasy."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:23:14 · David Sims (0.40)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Westerns (genre) · lineage · Lee reviving an old genre like making a Western, but engineered for a worldwide audience. · "It was like if somebody made a Western, but it also was implicitly built to and engineered to appeal to a worldwide audience as much as it appealed to an American one."
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:32 · David Sims (0.40)] Captain Marvel ↔ The Avengers · programming · Captain Marvel is a 1990s prequel in which Fury still has both eyes, bringing back Coulson/Fury; they predict nineties-reference gags. · "So in that one, Nick Fury has 2 eyes."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:04:17 · Sean Fennessey (0.90)] Big ⇒ Shazam! (the host's read) · lineage · Fennessey calls Shazam! essentially Big as a superhero movie. · "the movie is clearly pitched as sort of what if big but superhero"
[The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture · 0:07:52 · Jason Concepcion (0.50)] Batman Begins ↔ Iron Man · theme · Both the late-90s Batman films and the X-Men films hid the comic-book look; Marvel instead embraced what was authentic about its characters. · "They're very abashed to be like, this is a comic book movie."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:16:47 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Marvel Cinematic Universe · programming · Fury is in charge of SHIELD only in this film and Avengers; afterward mostly cameos. · "So this is only the only other movie where Fury is like in charge of S.E.L.D. and kind of just like in the movie."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:24:55 · David Sims (0.40)] King Hu ⇒ Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (the host's read) · lineage · CTHD plays in the milieu of King Hu and the wuxia classics, but with a more modern sensibility. · "this movie is playing in a, in a Milu that is inherent to like King Hu movies and Musha, like the classics"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:01:42 · unknown (Griffin) (0.50)] Iron Man ↔ Captain Marvel · programming · Mentions Captain Marvel's upcoming 90s setting and Kamala Khan idolizing her as a possible future movie. · "And then like models herself after Captain Marvel."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:14:30 · David F. Sandberg (0.95)] Big ⇒ Shazam! (the maker said so: Sandberg, in this interview, on the studio pitch) · lineage · Sandberg says the studio pitched it to him as Big with superpowers. · "it's basically uh, big, but with superpowers"
[Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:26:28 · David Sims (0.50)] The Lego Batman Movie ↔ Batman Begins · theme · The pit-and-rope lesson in Batman Begins is the one other time Batman learns anything about himself. · "Then it begins does."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:16:27 · unknown (0.45)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Iron Man 2 · programming · Gary Shandling's Hydra senator is an odd pull-back to Iron Man 2 for a franchise otherwise ignoring that film. · "when they're like trying to ignore as much of Iron Man 2 as possible"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 1:07:21 · Griffin Newman (0.30)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Last Action Hero · lineage · Jen worshipping Shu Lien and living her dreamed-of story is very Last Action Hero. · "It's very last action hero."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:03:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · The film goes back to the Steve Rogers style of origin story. · "here's how Steve Rogers became a super soldier style of storytelling."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:29:53 · David F. Sandberg (0.95)] Annabelle: Creation ↔ Shazam! · theme · Sandberg liked that, like Annabelle: Creation, Shazam! sits in a shared universe but stands as its own story. · "even though it is a sequel in this part of the universe, it was a prequel with all new characters and like a new story"
[Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:52:38 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] RoboCop ↔ Batman Begins · craft · The black rubber suit and the motorcycle read as Nolan's Batman, not as a robot. · "And then the suit looks very Nolan Batman."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:34:33 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Agents of S.H.I.L.E.L.D. · programming · The TV show had to stall its whole first season because the film's Hydra reveal could not be tipped. · "Of course, the 1st season of SHIELD began in 2013 and had to essentially stall for almost its entire 1st season because they knew that this was coming, but they couldn't tip it."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 1:46:30 · David Ehrlich (0.35)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Brokeback Mountain · lineage · CTHD as the first of Lee's 'fuck mountain diptych' of transgressive sex movies, with Brokeback. · "This is the 1st of Angley's fuck mountain diptych."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] The Avengers ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · The Tesseract, the glowing box, was a MacGuffin in the first Avengers and in Infinity War. · "you may remember the Tesseract from the 1st Avengers film, and then, of course, the most recent Avengers film, Avengers Infinity War"
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:23:14 · David F. Sandberg (0.95)] Annabelle: Creation ↔ Shazam! · craft · Sandberg brought back his Annabelle: Creation costume designer, who had not done a superhero suit before. · "costume designer, Leah Butler, who I worked with on Alba Creation"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:34:59 · unknown (0.35)] Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. ↔ Captain America: The Winter Soldier · programming · Marvel then told ABC SHIELD would not exist for the film universe. · "Just so you know, Shield's not going to exist enough."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:30:13 · David Ehrlich (0.45)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Sense and Sensibility · theme · Ang Lee's bottled-emotion movies; CTHD as Sense and Sensibility with a magic sword. · "This is one of his great bottled emotion movies, which is like a big running theme for people who don't know how to express those. Sensibility with a magic sword."
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.80)] Captain Marvel ↔ Avengers: Infinity War · lineage · The film is connective tissue, dragging continuity toward the next Avengers movie. · "this movie is basically a connective tissue movie."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:26:01 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Terminator 2: Judgment Day ⇒ Shazam! (the host's read) · craft · Fennessey asks whether an effects shot echoes the T-1000 reassembling in Terminator 2; Sandberg agrees he references other films. · "this is basically that shot in Terminator 2, when the T 1000 gets, you know, comes back together and rises up"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:59:18 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Disney+ Falcon and Bucky show · programming · Smaller side-character projects are the future on Disney Plus. · "That feels like what Disney Plus is going to be with the like Falcon and Bucky show and the Scarlet Wish show."
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:37:29 · Griffin Newman (0.30)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Sense and Sensibility · theme · After 15 minutes the movie goes full Jane Austen. · "But like 15 minutes later, when the movie goes full, Jane Austen"
[The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:18:39 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Pulp Fiction ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read) · lineage · Samuel L. Jackson driving around mid-90s Los Angeles evokes Jules Winfield, a clever but surface 90s nod. · "a Samuel L. Jackson character in the mid 90s driving around in a car in Los Angeles, a la Jules Winfield in Pulp Fiction."
[The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · 0:26:01 · David F. Sandberg (0.70)] War of the Worlds ⇒ Shazam! (the maker said so: Sandberg, in this interview) · craft · Sandberg wanted buildings to explode as in Spielberg's War of the Worlds when the tripods fire. · "the buildings explode in War of the Worlds, the Spielbergs, you know, when the tripods shoot through the buildings"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:59:26 · unknown (0.40)] Captain America: The Winter Soldier ↔ Loki · programming · The Loki show hired a Rick and Morty writer; time-traveling premise. · "have you heard the premise of the Loki show and they hired a Rick and Morty writer?"
[Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon · 0:42:52 · David Ehrlich (0.55)] Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon ↔ Lady Bird · theme · Seen as a coming-of-age story where Jen is the surrogate daughter holding the adults together and apart. · "I never really looked at it through this lens until I was just, you know, on ambient and trying to apply ladybird quotes to everything"
[speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
[speaker] Amanda Dobbins · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · Loves The Strangers' withholding craft and a good tense horror film without gore, but likes fun, communal movies like Mamma Mia. She dislikes supernatural or gory horror, which irritates her more than it scares her. She is a sucker for stars and for Googling a movie mid-recording. · stances: The Strangers is scary because of what it doesn't show or explain; Ending explanation weakens it; no answer would be better; Prefers 'withholding' filmmaking; Defends Mamma Mia as joyful and intentional
[speaker] David Sims · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Prepares history: novel, casting, budgets, box office. Reveres the film and thinks it reads as a normal ground-level story. A sucker for Hollywood deal backstory and box office game. · stances: Praises Keitel and Dafoe casting; Respects Scorsese's persistence and Corman discipline; The film is now well regarded though not 'canonical Marty'
[speaker] Jason Concepcion · latest sketch, The Big Picture · Did Disney’s ‘Mulan’ Experiment Work? A Binge Mode Investigation · Loves a musical, Donnie Yen action, and the 1998 Mulan with its Eddie Murphy humor. Finds the remake kind of boring and wants a grounded, historical version. Sucker for political and economic framing of film controversy. · stances: The remake is fine in a vacuum, a disappointment as a Mulan; Wants a more historical, less magical take; Sees the Mulan controversy as a symptom of the West-China economic experiment; Missing music means missing storytelling
[speaker] Miles Surrey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU · Miles prefers the grounded first half of Shazam! to the CGI villain half, has some Marvel fatigue, and likes the DC standalone approach. He was less taken with Wonder Woman than most. He enjoys talking about actors who transform. · stances: Shazam! is best as a what-if about a kid with powers; Superhero final fights are derivative; Marvel fatigue makes DC's standalone approach appealing
[bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)

Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with Wonder Woman (2017); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend Wonder Woman (2017) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them.

Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact.

You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here.

Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.