The Rock (1996)

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Wikidata Q216720, film, IMDb tt0117500, TMDB 9802: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Don Simpson as producer (‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan); 3 more episodes agree.

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Who talked about it

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Beverly Hills Cop II: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. theme (scrapped premise): Beverly Hills Cop II ⇒ The Rock (the host's read). The abandoned England/Scotland Yard concept with Sean Connery became the backbone of The Rock a decade later.
    “initially written Beverly Hills Cop 2 to be Eddie Murphy in England, solving crimes with Sean Connery, actually, which basically, I think, winds up being like essentially the backbone for what the rock is 10 years later or whatever.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:00:18 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

Beverly Hills Cop II: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (scrapped premise): Beverly Hills Cop II → The Rock. The abandoned England/Scotland Yard concept with Sean Connery became the backbone of The Rock a decade later.
    “initially written Beverly Hills Cop 2 to be Eddie Murphy in England, solving crimes with Sean Connery, actually, which basically, I think, winds up being like essentially the backbone for what the rock is 10 years later or whatever.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:00:18 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Die Hard 2: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (alternate ending): Die Hard 2 → The Rock. Ryan wants the Rock-style fix where the villain is stopped at the last second, with Ed Harris redirecting the rockets.
    “when Ed Harris shoots the rockets at San Francisco and then he like redirects them at the last second.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Die Hard 2’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:23:34 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Don Simpson: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career run): Don Simpson → The Rock. Simpson and Bruckheimer's run of hits ended with The Rock and then Simpson died.
    “Flash Dance, Thief of Hearts, Beverly's Cop, Top Gun, Beverly's Cop 2, Days of Thunder, the Ref, Bad Boys, Crimson Tide, Dangerous Minds, The Rock.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:44:28 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

Mission: Impossible: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (same-year theme): Mission: Impossible → The Rock. Phelps's complaint about being farmed out matches Ed Harris's line in The Rock, a post-Desert Storm military-grievance theme.
    “this is also the same year that the rock came out and that's the same line that Ed Harris has in the at the end of the rock.”
    The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:38:37 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)

National Treasure: Book of Secrets: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): National Treasure: Book of Secrets → The Rock. Both end on Kennedy-assassination secrets with Nicolas Cage and Ed Harris.
    “there are 2 fucking Nick Cage, Ed Harris movies”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Something's Gotta Give with Bobby Finger (Ad-Free) · 0:13:22 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)

Twister: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Twister → The Rock. Craig calls Twister the ice cold beer of movies: tight, simple, one storyline, perfect CGI-practical blend.
    “the ice cold beer of movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:50:35 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (1)

  1. career (career run): Don Simpson → The Rock. Simpson and Bruckheimer's run of hits ended with The Rock and then Simpson died.
    “Flash Dance, Thief of Hearts, Beverly's Cop, Top Gun, Beverly's Cop 2, Days of Thunder, the Ref, Bad Boys, Crimson Tide, Dangerous Minds, The Rock.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:44:28 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

craft (1)

  1. craft (craft): National Treasure: Book of Secrets → The Rock. Both end on Kennedy-assassination secrets with Nicolas Cage and Ed Harris.
    “there are 2 fucking Nick Cage, Ed Harris movies”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Something's Gotta Give with Bobby Finger (Ad-Free) · 0:13:22 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)

theme (2)

  1. theme (scrapped premise): Beverly Hills Cop II → The Rock. The abandoned England/Scotland Yard concept with Sean Connery became the backbone of The Rock a decade later.
    “initially written Beverly Hills Cop 2 to be Eddie Murphy in England, solving crimes with Sean Connery, actually, which basically, I think, winds up being like essentially the backbone for what the rock is 10 years later or whatever.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:00:18 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. theme (same-year theme): Mission: Impossible → The Rock. Phelps's complaint about being farmed out matches Ed Harris's line in The Rock, a post-Desert Storm military-grievance theme.
    “this is also the same year that the rock came out and that's the same line that Ed Harris has in the at the end of the rock.”
    The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:38:37 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)

verdict (1)

  1. verdict (verdict): Twister → The Rock. Craig calls Twister the ice cold beer of movies: tight, simple, one storyline, perfect CGI-practical blend.
    “the ice cold beer of movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:50:35 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50 sure it was them)

what-if (1)

  1. what-if (alternate ending): Die Hard 2 → The Rock. Ryan wants the Rock-style fix where the villain is stopped at the last second, with Ed Harris redirecting the rockets.
    “when Ed Harris shoots the rockets at San Francisco and then he like redirects them at the last second.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Die Hard 2’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:23:34 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

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Who the speakers said made it

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