Dead Presidents (1995)

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Who talked about it

The Big Picture

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Apocalypse Now: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. craft (craft): Apocalypse Now ⇒ Dead Presidents (the host's read). The Hughes brothers kept an Apocalypse Now poster; the film borrows its helicopter shots.
    “The directors were big time movie obsessives, who kept an apocalypse now poster on the wall of their Hollywood studio.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:27 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Blaxploitation films: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Blaxploitation films ⇒ Dead Presidents (the host's read). It also drew on Blaxploitation films and gangster sagas, scored with 70s soul.
    “But so were Black'sploitation films and gangster sagas.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:51:07 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Bloods (book): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Bloods (book) ⇒ Dead Presidents (the host's read). Dead Presidents was inspired by Wallace Terry's oral history of Black Vietnam veterans.
    “It was inspired by a book called Bloods, an oral history of the Vietnam War by Black Veterans.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:48:28 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Full Metal Jacket: 1 line the maker said so ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Full Metal Jacket ⇒ Dead Presidents (the maker said so: Lorenz Tate recalling the Hughes brothers' videotapes). Allen Hughes made a VHS of Vietnam scenes; Tate was assigned Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, Platoon.
    “So I watched Full Metal Jacket.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:43 · Lorenz Tate (0.80 sure it was them)

The Deer Hunter: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Deer Hunter ⇒ Dead Presidents (the host's read). The film carries the Deer Hunter's post-war isolation, Platoon's combat, Apocalypse Now's helicopters.
    “The post-war isolation of the Deer Hunter, the bloody combat, a platoon, even the majestic helicopter shots from Apocalypse Now.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:57 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

Apocalypse Now: 2 lines craft ×1 people ×1

  1. craft (craft): Dead Presidents → Apocalypse Now. The Hughes brothers kept an Apocalypse Now poster; the film borrows its helicopter shots.
    “The directors were big time movie obsessives, who kept an apocalypse now poster on the wall of their Hollywood studio.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:27 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

90s cinema: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Dead Presidents → 90s cinema. The Hughes brothers ran the older Vietnam films through a hyperviolent, referential 90s lens.
    “they were jamming those older movies through the hyperviolent, ultra referential lens of 90s cinema.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:57:16 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Blaxploitation films: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Dead Presidents → Blaxploitation films. It also drew on Blaxploitation films and gangster sagas, scored with 70s soul.
    “But so were Black'sploitation films and gangster sagas.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:51:07 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Bloods (book): 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Dead Presidents → Bloods (book). Dead Presidents was inspired by Wallace Terry's oral history of Black Vietnam veterans.
    “It was inspired by a book called Bloods, an oral history of the Vietnam War by Black Veterans.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:48:28 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Dale Dye: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Dale Dye → Dead Presidents. Dye trained the Dead Presidents cast as he had Platoon's.
    “Dale Dye, the man who'd put Oliver Stone's platoon actors through fake hell and back.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:51:19 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Forrest Gump: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Forrest Gump → Dead Presidents. Audiences wanting Vietnam to go down easy by the mid 90s makes Dead Presidents a challenge.
    “suggests that by the mid 90s, audiences wanted their Vietnam films to go down easy.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:47:39 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Full Metal Jacket: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Dead Presidents → Full Metal Jacket. Allen Hughes made a VHS of Vietnam scenes; Tate was assigned Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, Platoon.
    “So I watched Full Metal Jacket.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:43 · Lorenz Tate (0.80 sure it was them)

Menace II Society: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Dead Presidents → Menace II Society. The Hughes brothers' debut was Menace II Society; Lorenz Tate was in both.
    “That's actor Lorenz Tate, who first worked with the Hughes Brothers and Menace to Society”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:49:17 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Platoon: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Dead Presidents → Platoon. Keith David appears in both: Kirby in Dead Presidents is played by Platoon's Keith David.
    “Kirby, a Korean war vet played by platoons Keith David”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:52:27 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

The Deer Hunter: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Dead Presidents → The Deer Hunter. The film carries the Deer Hunter's post-war isolation, Platoon's combat, Apocalypse Now's helicopters.
    “The post-war isolation of the Deer Hunter, the bloody combat, a platoon, even the majestic helicopter shots from Apocalypse Now.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:57 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

The Green Berets: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Dead Presidents → The Green Berets. Dead Presidents was as far from The Green Berets as a movie could get, closing the boom.
    “Stylistically and culturally, dead presidents was about as far from the Green Berets as a movie could get”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:57:23 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

contrast (2)

  1. contrast (contrast): Forrest Gump → Dead Presidents. Audiences wanting Vietnam to go down easy by the mid 90s makes Dead Presidents a challenge.
    “suggests that by the mid 90s, audiences wanted their Vietnam films to go down easy.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:47:39 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): Dead Presidents → The Green Berets. Dead Presidents was as far from The Green Berets as a movie could get, closing the boom.
    “Stylistically and culturally, dead presidents was about as far from the Green Berets as a movie could get”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:57:23 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

craft (3)

  1. craft (craft): Dead Presidents → Apocalypse Now. The Hughes brothers kept an Apocalypse Now poster; the film borrows its helicopter shots.
    “The directors were big time movie obsessives, who kept an apocalypse now poster on the wall of their Hollywood studio.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:27 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): Dead Presidents → The Deer Hunter. The film carries the Deer Hunter's post-war isolation, Platoon's combat, Apocalypse Now's helicopters.
    “The post-war isolation of the Deer Hunter, the bloody combat, a platoon, even the majestic helicopter shots from Apocalypse Now.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:57 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  3. craft (craft): Dead Presidents → 90s cinema. The Hughes brothers ran the older Vietnam films through a hyperviolent, referential 90s lens.
    “they were jamming those older movies through the hyperviolent, ultra referential lens of 90s cinema.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:57:16 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

lineage (3)

  1. lineage (lineage): Dead Presidents → Bloods (book). Dead Presidents was inspired by Wallace Terry's oral history of Black Vietnam veterans.
    “It was inspired by a book called Bloods, an oral history of the Vietnam War by Black Veterans.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:48:28 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Dead Presidents → Full Metal Jacket. Allen Hughes made a VHS of Vietnam scenes; Tate was assigned Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, Platoon.
    “So I watched Full Metal Jacket.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:43 · Lorenz Tate (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage): Dead Presidents → Blaxploitation films. It also drew on Blaxploitation films and gangster sagas, scored with 70s soul.
    “But so were Black'sploitation films and gangster sagas.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:51:07 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

people (4)

  1. people (people): Dead Presidents → Menace II Society. The Hughes brothers' debut was Menace II Society; Lorenz Tate was in both.
    “That's actor Lorenz Tate, who first worked with the Hughes Brothers and Menace to Society”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:49:17 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. people (people): Dale Dye → Dead Presidents. Dye trained the Dead Presidents cast as he had Platoon's.
    “Dale Dye, the man who'd put Oliver Stone's platoon actors through fake hell and back.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:51:19 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  3. people (people): Dead Presidents → Platoon. Keith David appears in both: Kirby in Dead Presidents is played by Platoon's Keith David.
    “Kirby, a Korean war vet played by platoons Keith David”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:52:27 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  4. people (people): Dead Presidents → Apocalypse Now. Martin Sheen, of Apocalypse Now, plays the sentencing judge.
    “played by Apocalypse Now Star Martin Sheen.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:53:09 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Dead Presidents: Allen Hughes compiled favorite Vietnam scenes on a VHS tape played in his trailer.
    “Alan Hughes even compiled his favorite Vietnam movie scenes onto a VHS tape, which he played in his trailer for inspiration.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:32 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Dead Presidents: Dale Dye's boot camp: actors dug toilet holes and lived off rations in Florida.
    “the dead president's actors lived off rations, dug holes for toilets, and listened to Di's war stories.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:51:29 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Dead Presidents: Vietnam vet David Marine saw it and thought he was losing his grip; he came from the Bronx, nickname Skip.
    “When I was a kid, my nickname was Skip.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:54:54 · David Marine (0.80 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Dead Presidents: Cult following on home video despite no box-office hit.
    “it found a cult following on home video.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:56:31 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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