Hard Eight (Sydney)

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Who talked about it

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Came from

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David Mamet: 1 line the maker said so ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): David Mamet ⇒ Hard Eight (Sydney) (the maker said so: PTA talking about it). PTA talks about Mamet's influence, but Brian says he threw it off more easily than Brian and his partner do.
    “although PTA talks about Mammoth's influence”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:54:07 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)

Robert Altman: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Robert Altman ⇒ Hard Eight (Sydney) (the host's read). If you talk about its influences you have to talk about Altman too.
    “you got to talk about Altman, I think too”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:58:47 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

Boogie Nights: 2 lines career ×1 contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Boogie Nights. Boogie Nights is about being young, Hard Eight about getting older, so it was the harder first film to see.
    “Boogie Nights is about being young and heart 8 is about getting older”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:59:36 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

California: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Hard Eight (Sydney) → California. Brian says the film's voice is filtered through California, so it differs from Mamet.
    “because it's filtered through California”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:54:19 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)

David Mamet: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Hard Eight (Sydney) → David Mamet. PTA talks about Mamet's influence, but Brian says he threw it off more easily than Brian and his partner do.
    “although PTA talks about Mammoth's influence”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:54:07 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)

Gwyneth Paltrow: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Gwyneth Paltrow. Playing someone less smart than herself was brave in her career, and she did it with no ego.
    “For her to play somebody not as smart as she was, very brave in that spot in her career.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:55:50 · Brian Koppelman (0.85 sure it was them)

Jonathan Demme: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Jonathan Demme. The into-camera close-ups in the diner are Demme-like; it is like Scorsese and Demme together.
    “It's like if Scorsese and Demi made something together in a lot of ways.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:58:17 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Phantom Thread: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Phantom Thread. Phantom Thread is the hyper-disciplined piece PTA delivered after going very far afield.
    “the next time he made just a hyper discipline piece was Phantom Thread”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:57:32 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)

Philip Seymour Hoffman: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Philip Seymour Hoffman. Everything magical about Hoffman is in his one-minute scene.
    “Everything magical about Filistino Hoffman is in this one minute sequence.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:56:34 · Brian Koppelman (0.85 sure it was them)

Robert Altman: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Robert Altman. If you talk about its influences you have to talk about Altman too.
    “you got to talk about Altman, I think too”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:58:47 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

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career (2)

  1. career (career): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Phantom Thread. Phantom Thread is the hyper-disciplined piece PTA delivered after going very far afield.
    “the next time he made just a hyper discipline piece was Phantom Thread”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:57:32 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Boogie Nights. Seeing Hard Eight after Boogie Nights was like a first album that got bigger distribution once the second took off.
    “It was a little bit of a like 1st album, 2nd album thing”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:59:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Boogie Nights. Boogie Nights is about being young, Hard Eight about getting older, so it was the harder first film to see.
    “Boogie Nights is about being young and heart 8 is about getting older”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:59:36 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

craft (1)

  1. craft (craft): Hard Eight (Sydney) → California. Brian says the film's voice is filtered through California, so it differs from Mamet.
    “because it's filtered through California”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:54:19 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)

lineage (3)

  1. lineage (lineage): Hard Eight (Sydney) → David Mamet. PTA talks about Mamet's influence, but Brian says he threw it off more easily than Brian and his partner do.
    “although PTA talks about Mammoth's influence”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:54:07 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Jonathan Demme. The into-camera close-ups in the diner are Demme-like; it is like Scorsese and Demme together.
    “It's like if Scorsese and Demi made something together in a lot of ways.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:58:17 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Robert Altman. If you talk about its influences you have to talk about Altman too.
    “you got to talk about Altman, I think too”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:58:47 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

people (2)

  1. people (people): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Gwyneth Paltrow. Playing someone less smart than herself was brave in her career, and she did it with no ego.
    “For her to play somebody not as smart as she was, very brave in that spot in her career.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:55:50 · Brian Koppelman (0.85 sure it was them)
  2. people (people): Hard Eight (Sydney) → Philip Seymour Hoffman. Everything magical about Hoffman is in his one-minute scene.
    “Everything magical about Filistino Hoffman is in this one minute sequence.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:56:34 · Brian Koppelman (0.85 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Hard Eight (Sydney): Brian says the studio forced the title Hard Eight in exchange for letting Paul keep his cut; Brian insists on calling it Sydney.
    “if we're going to do it for this list, we have to call it Sydney, right?”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:52:58 · Brian Koppelman (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Hard Eight (Sydney): Brian watched the Hard Eight commentary many times; PTA limited Gwyneth Paltrow's and John C. Reilly's use of props like the cigarette.
    “How he limited the amount of time she could go to the cigarette because he didn't want her using props”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:55:35 · Brian Koppelman (0.85 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Hard Eight (Sydney): See the diner opening: the cigarette goes into the ashtray and the camera starts moving.
    “the cigarette goes to the ashtray and the camera moves down and then we're moving.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:58:30 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)

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