What the corpus says about Fight Club (1999)
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What was said about it (26)
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:20:30 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Fight Club · programming · Both are very funny first-person-narrated films about sociopaths who rationalize brutal violence as a personal mission. · "This movie would make a neat pairing with Fight Club. Two very funny films about sociopaths whose inner monologues rationalize brutal violence as expressions of a personal mission."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:08:56 · Alex Ross Perry (0.40)] The Sixth Sense ↔ Fight Club · programming · Two big twist movies, ten weeks apart, with the same fake-person reveal. · "That's the same twist twice, 10 weeks apart."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:43:02 · unknown (0.35)] A Clockwork Orange ↔ Fight Club · programming · Fight Club is called the Clockwork Orange of another generation, an Edge Lord pick. · "This is kind of the clockwork Orange for another generation."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:57:12 · Alex Ross Perry (0.45)] Slacker ↔ Fight Club · programming · Klosterman, as read, names Slacker or Fight Club as the decade's most generationally defining film. · "either slacker or fight club, could justifiably be called the decade's most generationally defining."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:41:40 · unknown (host) (0.30)] The Killer (graphic novel) ↔ Fight Club · theme · The comic's killer has an inner monologue closer to the Fight Club narrator. · "it's more that like this guy's inner monologue is closer to Edward Norton Fight Club."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 0:46:32 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Jackass ↔ Fight Club · theme · A speaker says the urge Fight Club is getting at reaches its peak form in Jackass. · "I do find like the expression of what this movie is sort of getting at for me reaches its peak form in jackass."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 0:55:00 · unknown (0.40)] The Graduate ↔ Fight Club · theme · Reading the dossier, the speaker says Fincher's big comparison for Fight Club was The Graduate: coming of age, but in your 30s. · "His big comparison, which I do think is very interesting, is he's like, this is the graduate, right?"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 1:31:01 · unknown (0.40)] The Matrix ↔ Fight Club · theme · Norton's cubicle drone is called the mirror image of Keanu's in The Matrix. · "He is the mirror image of Keanu in the Matrix, the same mirror, the, you know, the cubicle guy with the fucking, you know, ill-fitting white shirt"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:53:18 · unknown (0.40)] Feels Good Man ↔ Fight Club · theme · A documentary on Pepe the Frog is cited for how online nihilism turned political. · "Feels good, man, which I think is an excellent documentary about the whole weird life cycle of Pepe the Frog,"
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 1:20:53 · Chris Ryan (0.45)] Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read) · craft · The inside-the-house camera moves Fincher started in Fight Club are fully developed in Panic Room. · "And there's a lot of like stuff that he had started to do a little bit with Fight Club is like really like fleshed out in panic room"
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 1:08:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] Seven ↔ Fight Club · craft · Fincher's cigarette burn shot in Fight Club is compared to the half-second Gwyneth shot in Se7en. · "I always think of Gwyneth as like a cigarette burn a little bit."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ · 1:05:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] Old School ↔ Fight Club · craft · The Godfather secret in front of Pompeo works like a Fight Club rule about not talking about it outside. · "It's a great, like, fight club joke."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:15:25 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] Panic Room ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Fincher assumed a one-location film would be easier than Fight Club's 400 scenes in 100 locations; it was harder. · "He does Fight Club and it's an insane movie to make, I think he said, Fight Club at 400 scenes in 100 locations."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:42:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Panic Room ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Panic Room is one of the first Fincher films where the audience is with the characters the whole time. · "And panic room is this real-time experience."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 1:27:08 · Chris Ryan (0.45)] Seven ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Fight Club feels more optimistic and is a love story, whereas Se7en says do not care about anything. · "Fight club's a love story."
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:22:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Killer ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Fight Club is about societal and male-psyche breakdown; The Killer is about a functioning guy who messed up at work. · "Fight Club is about the breakdown of society and the male psyche. The killer is about a guy who's like, shit, I fucked up at work"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 0:58:26 · Alex Ross Perry (0.45)] Seven ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Seven was fucked up in a way entirely different from Fight Club, yet studios treated Fincher as the fucked-up guy. · "it's fucked up in a way that's entirely different from this movie."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:58:36 · unknown (0.35)] Bonnie and Clyde ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Fight Club was not the first film of its decade the way Bonnie and Clyde was for the 70s. · "It's not like, oh, funny and Clyde, 1st movie of the 70s."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:06 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Fight Club ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Norton's live-wire narrator in Fight Club was a blueprint for a Banner performance, yet he is boring in this. · "the narrator in Fight Club kind of feels like a perfect show reel for a Bruce Banner performance, right?"
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:19:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read) · career · Panic Room read as a small antidote to the response to Fight Club. · "This seemed like a little bit of an antidote to that because what's panic room about."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 1:27:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read) · career · Without Se7en's power Fincher does not get to do The Game and Fight Club his way. · "I think without this movie, he doesn't go on this run"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en · 1:05:55 · unknown (0.30)] Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read) · career · Se7en's success is what let Fincher make the seemingly impossible Fight Club. · "But the fight club is him more being like, okay, guys, I know this seems impossible, but I made seven."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room · 1:15:03 · unknown (0.40)] Panic Room ↔ Fight Club · people · Fincher put Jared Leto through physical abuse in both Fight Club and Panic Room. · "Because in the fight club as well, he gets a shipping down."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 1:17:49 · unknown (0.40)] The People vs. Larry Flynt ↔ Fight Club · people · Fincher cast Norton off his work in Larry Flynt, which had the same vibe. · "But Fincher casts him in this off of people versus Larry Flynn, which is very much the same vibe."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:09:50 · unknown (0.40)] 12 Monkeys ↔ Fight Club · people · Pitt in 12 Monkeys now looks like trying too hard compared with his ease in Fight Club. · "I watch that movie, that performance now, and I'm like, he's trying so hard."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 0:55:13 · unknown (0.40)] Alien 3 ↔ Fight Club · industry · Fincher's bad time at Fox on Alien 3 is why he did not want Fox to have Fight Club. · "he had obviously had a terrible experience with Fox, doing Alien three."
Films put beside it more than once (6)
- [pairs] Fight Club ↔ Panic Room · said 6 times in 2 episodes
- [pairs] Fight Club ↔ Seven · said 5 times in 3 episodes
- [pairs] Fight Club ↔ The Killer · said 3 times in 1 episode
- [pairs] Fight Club ↔ Alien 3 · said 2 times in 2 episodes
- [pairs] Fight Club ↔ Easy Rider · said 2 times in 2 episodes
- [pairs] Fight Club ↔ The Matrix · said 2 times in 1 episode
Fun items about it (6)
- [The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 0:12:18 · Bill Simmons (0.40)] Fight Club · fun · Listener pictures Ed Norton's narrator looking at Bill praising new top boy Craig. · "I feel like destroying something beautiful."
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:22:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Fight Club · fun · The Killer is 'a guy who's like, shit, I fucked up at work', 20 years after Fight Club's society collapse. · "that's amazing to come like 20 years later and land there"
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 1:14:33 · unknown (0.40)] Fight Club · fun · The three detectives are named for the polish writer Andrew Kevin Walker, split across scenes. · "The 3 detectives in this movie are named Detective Andrew, Detective Kevin Deveca Walker."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 1:39:06 · unknown (0.40)] Fight Club · fun · Fox gave Fincher about $750,000 and six more weeks, which also moved the release to fall. · "they gave him like $750,000, another 6 weeks to refine it and push it back because of that."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:01:49 · unknown (0.40)] Fight Club · fun · In China the release added a tacked-on text ending where the police stop everything. · "It ends with a note to viewers that says, through the clue provided by Tyler, the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all criminals successfully preventing the bomb from exploding."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:23:25 · unknown (0.35)] Fight Club · fun · Timing the Dust Brothers-adjacent song MMMBop to the car crash scene. · "If you actually, if you time Mbop with that scene in Fight Club, it works out perfectly."
One hop out: what recommends the films most often joined to it (14)
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:29:37 · Bill Simmons (0.55)] Panic Room ↔ Bird Box · programming · Home-invasion and people-in-peril movies are what Netflix feeds viewers; Panic Room is the well-done version. · "But I think this is the really well-done version of it."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:17:05 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Seven ↔ The Shawshank Redemption · programming · Both are movies you get sucked into on cable by the last 40 minutes. · "The same thing with Shawshank."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:16:54 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Killer ↔ Steven Soderbergh · programming · A friend of the podcast says it is Fincher and Soderbergh land: a stripped-down genre exercise. · "it's Fincher and Sodaberg land."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 1:35:21 · unknown (0.40)] Alien 3 ↔ Resident Evil · programming · Resident Evil should not be programmed next to Alien; wait for in-person sessions. · "Also, you can't put it next to Alien because Resident Evil does, well, not, that will not be good for Resident Evil."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:40:17 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Panic Room ↔ The Social Network · programming · Fincher movies are rewatchable and date-movie friendly, with the exception of Se7en; Social Network is the perfect date movie. · "Like social network, perfect date movie."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:04:37 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Seven ↔ Heat · lineage · Grouped with Usual Suspects, Heat and Casino as the four defining 1995 movies, three of which were shut out at the Oscars. · "Our usual suspects, which we recently did, Heat Casino in seven."
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:17:53 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · lineage · It is the closest Fincher has come to a pure thriller since Gone Girl, maybe Dragon Tattoo. · "he hasn't made a movie quite like this, I guess, since Gone Girl, but even, I mean, you could maybe even going back further to Dragon Tattoo is maybe a little closer to this kind of a pure thriller."
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:59:46 · Adam Nayman (0.85)] David Fincher ↔ Alien 3 · lineage · Alien 3 is the primal scene of Fincher's chip on his shoulder, producers treating him like a shoe salesman. · "there's the chip on the shoulder and the primal scene of alien 3, right?"
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 1:33:06 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] Panic Room ↔ Succession · programming · As a ten-episode Netflix show, Junior would be Roman from Succession. · "but it's just that, um, Junior is Roman from Succession."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:14:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Alfred Hitchcock ⇒ Seven (the host's read) · lineage · Se7en is a Hitchcock movie in its pulling-your-chain structure of mystery, reveal and anxiety, and Hitchcock is Fincher's biggest influence. · "I think as much as this seems like a modern movie, it's also just completely a Hitchcock movie in so many ways."
- [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:20:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Rear Window ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The Paris hit sequence is a clear homage built on watching rooms across the street. · "it is a kind of rear window monkey. You know, it is like an attempt to recreate the across the street path, vision of what is happening in rooms in another building, and clear homage to that film."
- [Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ · 0:24:13 · David Sims (0.30)] Alien 3 ⇒ Alien Resurrection (the host's read) · lineage · Resurrection follows Alien 3, but its Ripley is a different character from the one who died. · "As much as she was quote unquote resurrected, obviously, that's a different character explicitly."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:16:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Panic Room ↔ Rope · lineage · One-location construction recalls the Hitchcock single-setting movies. · "So it has shades of rope or lifeboat, those movies that Hitchcock made."
- [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:15:19 · Chris Ryan (0.55)] Seven ⇒ True Detective (the host's read) · lineage · Se7en's influence shows in True Detective from the title sequence to the characters, though True Detective's first season flinches at the dark ending. · "you can see the influence of of 7 on things like True Detective from the title sequence to the characters."
Who said it, by their latest sketch (6)
- [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license
- [speaker] Alex Ross Perry · latest sketch, Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · Loves Fight Club as a formative film he saw at the AMC Marple on opening night and again on Saturday, and says it still ranks among his heart picks despite finding it juvenile now. Respects a movie that looks good. Cannot stand the Fincher perfectionist myth, and thinks his push for digital had a bad influence. A sucker for Zodiac, which he ranks first. · stances: Fight Club is a time capsule: deeply embarrassing to admire but loved spiritually; Fincher's perfectionist myth and digital proselytizing are overrated; The second half and Project Mayhem say nothing new; Zodiac is the best Fincher
- [speaker] Bill Simmons · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Loves the Friday series as a communal, rental-era memory and tells childhood stories about the ads and theaters. Likes casting what-ifs and sports analogies for everything. Skeptical of horror at Christmas and of anything that wastes the premise. · stances: Friday the 13th is not the best entry but the origin story had to be told; Friday 2 is a leap over the original
- [speaker] Chris Ryan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · A franchise and genre scholar who likes Jason, the early sequels, and Manhattan; attention to trivia, tropes and critic reception. Treats slashers as a canon with tiers. · stances: Parts 1, 2, 4 and Manhattan are the good ones; The series finds its legs at 4
- [speaker] Amanda Dobbins · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · Loves The Strangers' withholding craft and a good tense horror film without gore, but likes fun, communal movies like Mamma Mia. She dislikes supernatural or gory horror, which irritates her more than it scares her. She is a sucker for stars and for Googling a movie mid-recording. · stances: The Strangers is scary because of what it doesn't show or explain; Ending explanation weakens it; no answer would be better; Prefers 'withholding' filmmaking; Defends Mamma Mia as joyful and intentional
- [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases
The shows' running bits (2)
- [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten)
- [bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick)
The whole prompt
As the model gets it, from app/Ai/Prompts/CorpusAsk.md
You are a clerk at Video Culture, a video store. A customer just finished Fight Club (1999) and wants to know what to watch next. Below is what people who love movies said on three podcasts (Blank Check, The Rewatchables, The Big Picture) about Fight Club (1999) and the films around it, one line each. Every line starts with where it came from, in brackets: [show · episode · time · speaker (how sure we are it was them)]. A [pairs] line says how often two films were put side by side. A [speaker] line says what that person likes. A [bits] line lists a show's running bits: a format, not an opinion. [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:20:30 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Fight Club · programming · Both are very funny first-person-narrated films about sociopaths who rationalize brutal violence as a personal mission. · "This movie would make a neat pairing with Fight Club. Two very funny films about sociopaths whose inner monologues rationalize brutal violence as expressions of a personal mission." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:08:56 · Alex Ross Perry (0.40)] The Sixth Sense ↔ Fight Club · programming · Two big twist movies, ten weeks apart, with the same fake-person reveal. · "That's the same twist twice, 10 weeks apart." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:43:02 · unknown (0.35)] A Clockwork Orange ↔ Fight Club · programming · Fight Club is called the Clockwork Orange of another generation, an Edge Lord pick. · "This is kind of the clockwork Orange for another generation." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:57:12 · Alex Ross Perry (0.45)] Slacker ↔ Fight Club · programming · Klosterman, as read, names Slacker or Fight Club as the decade's most generationally defining film. · "either slacker or fight club, could justifiably be called the decade's most generationally defining." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:41:40 · unknown (host) (0.30)] The Killer (graphic novel) ↔ Fight Club · theme · The comic's killer has an inner monologue closer to the Fight Club narrator. · "it's more that like this guy's inner monologue is closer to Edward Norton Fight Club." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 0:46:32 · Griffin Newman (0.40)] Jackass ↔ Fight Club · theme · A speaker says the urge Fight Club is getting at reaches its peak form in Jackass. · "I do find like the expression of what this movie is sort of getting at for me reaches its peak form in jackass." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 0:55:00 · unknown (0.40)] The Graduate ↔ Fight Club · theme · Reading the dossier, the speaker says Fincher's big comparison for Fight Club was The Graduate: coming of age, but in your 30s. · "His big comparison, which I do think is very interesting, is he's like, this is the graduate, right?" [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 1:31:01 · unknown (0.40)] The Matrix ↔ Fight Club · theme · Norton's cubicle drone is called the mirror image of Keanu's in The Matrix. · "He is the mirror image of Keanu in the Matrix, the same mirror, the, you know, the cubicle guy with the fucking, you know, ill-fitting white shirt" [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:53:18 · unknown (0.40)] Feels Good Man ↔ Fight Club · theme · A documentary on Pepe the Frog is cited for how online nihilism turned political. · "Feels good, man, which I think is an excellent documentary about the whole weird life cycle of Pepe the Frog," [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 1:20:53 · Chris Ryan (0.45)] Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read) · craft · The inside-the-house camera moves Fincher started in Fight Club are fully developed in Panic Room. · "And there's a lot of like stuff that he had started to do a little bit with Fight Club is like really like fleshed out in panic room" [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 1:08:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] Seven ↔ Fight Club · craft · Fincher's cigarette burn shot in Fight Club is compared to the half-second Gwyneth shot in Se7en. · "I always think of Gwyneth as like a cigarette burn a little bit." [The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ · 1:05:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.40)] Old School ↔ Fight Club · craft · The Godfather secret in front of Pompeo works like a Fight Club rule about not talking about it outside. · "It's a great, like, fight club joke." [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:15:25 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] Panic Room ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Fincher assumed a one-location film would be easier than Fight Club's 400 scenes in 100 locations; it was harder. · "He does Fight Club and it's an insane movie to make, I think he said, Fight Club at 400 scenes in 100 locations." [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:42:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Panic Room ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Panic Room is one of the first Fincher films where the audience is with the characters the whole time. · "And panic room is this real-time experience." [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 1:27:08 · Chris Ryan (0.45)] Seven ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Fight Club feels more optimistic and is a love story, whereas Se7en says do not care about anything. · "Fight club's a love story." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:22:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] The Killer ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Fight Club is about societal and male-psyche breakdown; The Killer is about a functioning guy who messed up at work. · "Fight Club is about the breakdown of society and the male psyche. The killer is about a guy who's like, shit, I fucked up at work" [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 0:58:26 · Alex Ross Perry (0.45)] Seven ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Seven was fucked up in a way entirely different from Fight Club, yet studios treated Fincher as the fucked-up guy. · "it's fucked up in a way that's entirely different from this movie." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:58:36 · unknown (0.35)] Bonnie and Clyde ↔ Fight Club · contrast · Fight Club was not the first film of its decade the way Bonnie and Clyde was for the 70s. · "It's not like, oh, funny and Clyde, 1st movie of the 70s." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:06 · Griffin or David (0.30)] Fight Club ↔ The Incredible Hulk · contrast · Norton's live-wire narrator in Fight Club was a blueprint for a Banner performance, yet he is boring in this. · "the narrator in Fight Club kind of feels like a perfect show reel for a Bruce Banner performance, right?" [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:19:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.60)] Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read) · career · Panic Room read as a small antidote to the response to Fight Club. · "This seemed like a little bit of an antidote to that because what's panic room about." [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 1:27:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read) · career · Without Se7en's power Fincher does not get to do The Game and Fight Club his way. · "I think without this movie, he doesn't go on this run" [Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en · 1:05:55 · unknown (0.30)] Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read) · career · Se7en's success is what let Fincher make the seemingly impossible Fight Club. · "But the fight club is him more being like, okay, guys, I know this seems impossible, but I made seven." [Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room · 1:15:03 · unknown (0.40)] Panic Room ↔ Fight Club · people · Fincher put Jared Leto through physical abuse in both Fight Club and Panic Room. · "Because in the fight club as well, he gets a shipping down." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 1:17:49 · unknown (0.40)] The People vs. Larry Flynt ↔ Fight Club · people · Fincher cast Norton off his work in Larry Flynt, which had the same vibe. · "But Fincher casts him in this off of people versus Larry Flynn, which is very much the same vibe." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:09:50 · unknown (0.40)] 12 Monkeys ↔ Fight Club · people · Pitt in 12 Monkeys now looks like trying too hard compared with his ease in Fight Club. · "I watch that movie, that performance now, and I'm like, he's trying so hard." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 0:55:13 · unknown (0.40)] Alien 3 ↔ Fight Club · industry · Fincher's bad time at Fox on Alien 3 is why he did not want Fox to have Fight Club. · "he had obviously had a terrible experience with Fox, doing Alien three." [pairs] Fight Club ↔ Panic Room · said 6 times in 2 episodes [pairs] Fight Club ↔ Seven · said 5 times in 3 episodes [pairs] Fight Club ↔ The Killer · said 3 times in 1 episode [pairs] Fight Club ↔ Alien 3 · said 2 times in 2 episodes [pairs] Fight Club ↔ Easy Rider · said 2 times in 2 episodes [pairs] Fight Club ↔ The Matrix · said 2 times in 1 episode [The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 0:12:18 · Bill Simmons (0.40)] Fight Club · fun · Listener pictures Ed Norton's narrator looking at Bill praising new top boy Craig. · "I feel like destroying something beautiful." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:22:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.50)] Fight Club · fun · The Killer is 'a guy who's like, shit, I fucked up at work', 20 years after Fight Club's society collapse. · "that's amazing to come like 20 years later and land there" [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 1:14:33 · unknown (0.40)] Fight Club · fun · The three detectives are named for the polish writer Andrew Kevin Walker, split across scenes. · "The 3 detectives in this movie are named Detective Andrew, Detective Kevin Deveca Walker." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 1:39:06 · unknown (0.40)] Fight Club · fun · Fox gave Fincher about $750,000 and six more weeks, which also moved the release to fall. · "they gave him like $750,000, another 6 weeks to refine it and push it back because of that." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:01:49 · unknown (0.40)] Fight Club · fun · In China the release added a tacked-on text ending where the police stop everything. · "It ends with a note to viewers that says, through the clue provided by Tyler, the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all criminals successfully preventing the bomb from exploding." [Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · 2:23:25 · unknown (0.35)] Fight Club · fun · Timing the Dust Brothers-adjacent song MMMBop to the car crash scene. · "If you actually, if you time Mbop with that scene in Fight Club, it works out perfectly." [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:29:37 · Bill Simmons (0.55)] Panic Room ↔ Bird Box · programming · Home-invasion and people-in-peril movies are what Netflix feeds viewers; Panic Room is the well-done version. · "But I think this is the really well-done version of it." [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:17:05 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Seven ↔ The Shawshank Redemption · programming · Both are movies you get sucked into on cable by the last 40 minutes. · "The same thing with Shawshank." [Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer · 0:16:54 · Griffin Newman (0.50)] The Killer ↔ Steven Soderbergh · programming · A friend of the podcast says it is Fincher and Soderbergh land: a stripped-down genre exercise. · "it's Fincher and Sodaberg land." [Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 1:35:21 · unknown (0.40)] Alien 3 ↔ Resident Evil · programming · Resident Evil should not be programmed next to Alien; wait for in-person sessions. · "Also, you can't put it next to Alien because Resident Evil does, well, not, that will not be good for Resident Evil." [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:40:17 · Bill Simmons (0.70)] Panic Room ↔ The Social Network · programming · Fincher movies are rewatchable and date-movie friendly, with the exception of Se7en; Social Network is the perfect date movie. · "Like social network, perfect date movie." [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:04:37 · Bill Simmons (0.60)] Seven ↔ Heat · lineage · Grouped with Usual Suspects, Heat and Casino as the four defining 1995 movies, three of which were shut out at the Oscars. · "Our usual suspects, which we recently did, Heat Casino in seven." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:17:53 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60)] The Killer ↔ Gone Girl · lineage · It is the closest Fincher has come to a pure thriller since Gone Girl, maybe Dragon Tattoo. · "he hasn't made a movie quite like this, I guess, since Gone Girl, but even, I mean, you could maybe even going back further to Dragon Tattoo is maybe a little closer to this kind of a pure thriller." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:59:46 · Adam Nayman (0.85)] David Fincher ↔ Alien 3 · lineage · Alien 3 is the primal scene of Fincher's chip on his shoulder, producers treating him like a shoe salesman. · "there's the chip on the shoulder and the primal scene of alien 3, right?" [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 1:33:06 · Bill Simmons (0.50)] Panic Room ↔ Succession · programming · As a ten-episode Netflix show, Junior would be Roman from Succession. · "but it's just that, um, Junior is Roman from Succession." [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:14:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.85)] Alfred Hitchcock ⇒ Seven (the host's read) · lineage · Se7en is a Hitchcock movie in its pulling-your-chain structure of mystery, reveal and anxiety, and Hitchcock is Fincher's biggest influence. · "I think as much as this seems like a modern movie, it's also just completely a Hitchcock movie in so many ways." [The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:20:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.70)] Rear Window ⇒ The Killer (the host's read) · lineage · The Paris hit sequence is a clear homage built on watching rooms across the street. · "it is a kind of rear window monkey. You know, it is like an attempt to recreate the across the street path, vision of what is happening in rooms in another building, and clear homage to that film." [Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ · 0:24:13 · David Sims (0.30)] Alien 3 ⇒ Alien Resurrection (the host's read) · lineage · Resurrection follows Alien 3, but its Ripley is a different character from the one who died. · "As much as she was quote unquote resurrected, obviously, that's a different character explicitly." [The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) · 0:16:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.55)] Panic Room ↔ Rope · lineage · One-location construction recalls the Hitchcock single-setting movies. · "So it has shades of rope or lifeboat, those movies that Hitchcock made." [The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ · 0:15:19 · Chris Ryan (0.55)] Seven ⇒ True Detective (the host's read) · lineage · Se7en's influence shows in True Detective from the title sequence to the characters, though True Detective's first season flinches at the dark ending. · "you can see the influence of of 7 on things like True Detective from the title sequence to the characters." [speaker] Sean Fennessey · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Resident Evil’ Absolutely Rips! · Loves gory, funny, fast genre movies with craft and confidence, especially 87-minute films that never overstay. Can't stand ponderous elevated horror that fills out its runtime with introspection and sad family history. A sucker for the Carpenter-era lineage, Die Hard homages, and directors who break studio dogma. · stances: Resident Evil is one of the best films of the year; Horror movies have become a drag; fun genre experiences are needed; Short running times are a virtue; Video-game films work best when great filmmakers get creative license [speaker] Alex Ross Perry · latest sketch, Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club · Loves Fight Club as a formative film he saw at the AMC Marple on opening night and again on Saturday, and says it still ranks among his heart picks despite finding it juvenile now. Respects a movie that looks good. Cannot stand the Fincher perfectionist myth, and thinks his push for digital had a bad influence. A sucker for Zodiac, which he ranks first. · stances: Fight Club is a time capsule: deeply embarrassing to admire but loved spiritually; Fincher's perfectionist myth and digital proselytizing are overrated; The second half and Project Mayhem say nothing new; Zodiac is the best Fincher [speaker] Bill Simmons · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · Loves the Friday series as a communal, rental-era memory and tells childhood stories about the ads and theaters. Likes casting what-ifs and sports analogies for everything. Skeptical of horror at Christmas and of anything that wastes the premise. · stances: Friday the 13th is not the best entry but the origin story had to be told; Friday 2 is a leap over the original [speaker] Chris Ryan · latest sketch, The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ · A franchise and genre scholar who likes Jason, the early sequels, and Manhattan; attention to trivia, tropes and critic reception. Treats slashers as a canon with tiers. · stances: Parts 1, 2, 4 and Manhattan are the good ones; The series finds its legs at 4 [speaker] Amanda Dobbins · latest sketch, The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · Loves The Strangers' withholding craft and a good tense horror film without gore, but likes fun, communal movies like Mamma Mia. She dislikes supernatural or gory horror, which irritates her more than it scares her. She is a sucker for stars and for Googling a movie mid-recording. · stances: The Strangers is scary because of what it doesn't show or explain; Ending explanation weakens it; no answer would be better; Prefers 'withholding' filmmaking; Defends Mamma Mia as joyful and intentional [speaker] Griffin Newman · latest sketch, Blank Check · The Last Temptation of Christ · Calls Last Temptation his college-era favorite Scorsese; loves Scorsese's smaller 80s and the film's closing transcendence and Gabriel score. Cannot stand fundamentalist outrage at it. A sucker for casting trivia and Tom Cruise-silliness. · stances: Hot take: Last Temptation structurally mirrors New York, New York as a better version; Outrage over the film is stupid; it is respectful to Jesus; Scorsese's smaller 80s work beats his later baroque phases [bits] The Big Picture: Drafts (Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument); Hall of Fame (A star's or director's best, ranked and argued); Countdowns (Ranked lists, top five or top ten) [bits] The Rewatchables: Apex Mountain (The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits); Who Won the Movie (The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off); The Ebert review (Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show); Casting what-ifs (Who was almost cast, or who should have been); Most rewatchable scene (The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels); Aged best / aged worst (What holds up and what does not); Picking Nits (The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits); Double feature (The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick) Recommend three to six films, and only films that appear in these lines. A series, a TV film, or a franchise counts too when a line recommends it or pairs it with Fight Club (1999); name it the way the line names it. Don't recommend Fight Club (1999) itself. For each one, give one short reason in your own words and say whose reason it is: the show, named exactly as the brackets name it, and the speaker when the line names one (an "unknown" speaker is just the show). If the lines are thin, say so plainly rather than stretching them. Keep a contrast a contrast. When a line sets two films apart, the reason is how they differ; never turn it into a way they're alike. A line with ⇒ puts the source first and what drew on it second, and one marked "the maker said so" is still the host reporting it: say who said it, and never state an influence as fact. You know only what's on these lines. Add no fact they don't state: not who directed a film, not what kind of film it is, not when it came out, unless a line says so. Say nothing about the store or how anything rents here. Talk the way a clerk talks to a customer at the counter: plain text, titles written plainly with no asterisks or other markup, no headings, no lists of more than six, no JSON.