Fight Club (1999)

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Wikidata Q190050, film, IMDb tt0137523, TMDB 550: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits David Fincher as director (‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More); 7 more episodes agree.

What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.

The Rewatchables' awards

From ‘Fight Club’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan (2021-07-20):

Most rewatchable scene

  1. pick The semi-opening insomnia and IKEA sequence, where the narrator sets up his life and the things he hates.
    “Um, I really like the opening, the semi-opening scene with the insomnia.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:51:12
  2. pick The second Tyler and narrator scene (the things you own end up owning you; hit me as hard as you can).
    “The 2nd Tyler and narrator scene.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:52:48
  3. pick The first actual Fight Club scene: Tyler's speech to the club and Lou's cameo.
    “So got that one, got the 1st actual fight club scene when the fight club gets together.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:54:02
  4. pick The starting-a-fight-with-a-stranger montage, through the narrator fighting himself in the boss's office and the first Project Mayhem montage; the roughly 20 minutes from Tyler's speech on is the most rewatchable stretch.
    “The starting a fight with a stranger montage”
    Chris Ryan · 0:55:31
  5. runner-up The car accident scene, which he calls a half rewatchable scene for how it was shot.
    “The car accident is a half rewatchable scene, but it really great how they shot that.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:56:38
  6. pick The narrator realizing in the hotel room that he is Tyler.
    “Next rewatchable narrator realizing that he's actually Tyler in the hotel room is just great.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:57:21
  7. pick The final Pitt and Norton scene, with the Pixies ending.
    “The final Pitt Norton scene.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:58:23
  8. pick The bar and the first fight, plus the speech, the Lou cameo and the stranger-fight montage; that whole first section.
    “But my favorite, my most rewatchable scene is just like the bar and then their 1st fight. I like the speech, the Lou Cameo and starting a fight with a stranger montage, that whole section, I would go with that.”
    Chris Ryan · 0:59:07

Casting What Ifs · Who else was up for the parts, or what else could have been.

  1. pick Matt Damon as the narrator: Imagines the universe where Damon does Fight Club and Norton does The Talented Mr. Ripley.
    “At the same time, Damon grabs talented Mr. Ripley, and the merry-go-round stops, and Norton ends up with rounders, but like, there is a weird alternate universe where Damon does Fight Club, and Norton does talented Mr. Ripley, and I'm not sure both movies aren't better, even though I love both actors in those roles.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:40:18
  2. pick Russell Crowe as Tyler Durden: One producer wanted Crowe; he would still rather have Pitt, and Chris says the film is Pitt.
    “Um, one producer went for Russell Crowe.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:09:58
  3. pick Janeane Garofalo as Marla Singer: Fincher's first choice for Marla, per his research.
    “I, I double research this because it blew me away and I was just so dumbfounded by it, but Fincher's 1st choice for the role of Marlo was Janine Garofalo.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:10:52
  4. pick Sarah Michelle Gellar as Marla Singer: Per Variety, they tried for her but she was doing Buffy.
    “According to Variety Magazine, they tried to get Sarah Michelle Geller, but she was doing Buffy the Vampire Slayer, couldn't get the part.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:11:20
  5. pick Courtney Love as Marla Singer: The studio wanted her, but she was dating Norton at the time, so it was too weird.
    “Studio wanted Courtney Love.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:11:40
  6. pick Radiohead doing the score: Fincher wanted Radiohead; the hosts agree it would have made a different, gloomier film, though Chris thinks it needs the Dust Brothers' energy.
    “Fincher wanted Radiohead to do the score, which would have been amazing.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:13:12
  7. pick Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Marla Singer: Skeptical this was real; thinks it came from IMDb trivia.
    “The one that I thought was incredible was Julia Louis Dreyfus?”
    Bill Simmons · 1:14:45
  8. pick Winona Ryder as Marla Singer: Also in the research as a possible Marla; he thinks it was made up.
    “And Winona Ryder was also in the research as like a possible Marla.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:15:07
  9. pick Reese Witherspoon as Marla Singer: On the recasting couch he loves the idea and thinks she would have been nominated.
    “But I really, really, really like the idea of Reese Witherspoon is Marla in this movie.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:19:28

Joey Pants Award · Best that guy.

  1. winner Zach Grenier as the narrator's boss: Chris names him and says he knows him from this and Curb Your Enthusiasm.
    “So have to mention it, but it's got to be narrators boss, right?”
    Bill Simmons · 1:15:42
  2. nominee Holt McCallany as one of Tyler's right-hand guys
    “Holt McCalney is that guy from Fight Club.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:15:28

Vincent Hanna Award · Overacting.

  1. nominee Helena Bonham Carter as Marla Singer: Offered as a candidate; Bill allows it. No winner is named.
    “Can we can we pull Helena in here or no?”
    Chris Ryan · 1:16:12

Judd Nelson Award (seems to be in a different movie) · A guy or girl who seems like they are in a different movie.

  1. winner Lou
    “Welcome to the Jen Nelson word, Lou.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:16:23

Dion Waiters Award · A small role that makes a big impact.

  1. winner Meat Loaf as Robert Paulson: The campy 70s rock star turning up in three or four scenes; Bill agrees he probably wins.
    “I mean, it has to be meatloaf, right?”
    Chris Ryan · 1:16:52
  2. nominee Chloe, the cancer patient
    “How about Chloe the cancer patient?”
    Bill Simmons · 1:17:13

Best Quote · A favorite line from the movie.

  1. pick Our fathers were our models for gods as Tyler Durden: His favorite line, about a generation whose fathers left.
    “Yeah, that, and the fact that these are, like, I thought, I, my favorite line from the movie and the one that I think is really important generally, generationally speaking is our fathers were our models for gods, if our fathers abandoned us.”
    Chris Ryan · 0:14:12
  2. pick The condom is the glass slipper of our generation as Marla Singer: A yearbook-quote pick.
    “The condom is the glass slipper of our generation.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:03:34
  3. pick It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything as Tyler Durden: He says Chris once said it to him when they were figuring out The Ringer.
    “It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:03:40

Who Won the Movie · Who came out ahead from this movie.

  1. winner Brad Pitt as Tyler Durden: A rock-star performance; the movie jumps up every time he is on screen. Norton is his bronze at best, and he would hear it for Fincher.
    “So I'm going to go pit because the watching it this time around, I was just like, this is rock star more than movie star performance. And for as good as Norton is, every time Pitt's on the screen, the movie jumps up like 5 notches.”
    Chris Ryan · 1:34:59
  2. nominee David Fincher: Torn between Fincher and Pitt, with Norton as bronze.
    “So it's between Pitt and Fincher for me.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:35:25
  3. winner Brad Pitt as Tyler Durden: Settles on Pitt: it is an iconic 90s performance that pushes his career to a different level.
    “that it's Fincher, but I'd feel like it's Pitt.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:36:23

What Aged Best · What has held up best.

  1. pick The twist that the narrator and Tyler are the same person: Bill agrees the twist aged best, then also lists it under aged worst.
    “And this is the one that I think ages the best and also, I care about the least.”
    Chris Ryan · 0:58:51
  2. pick The DVD: The 99-2000 DVD era done right: commentary, double disc, deleted scenes.
    “The DVD has aged the best.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:59:54
  3. pick The shirtless Pitt photo with the black eye and cigarette: Attribution inferred: it continues his DVD thread.
    “I think is aged the best of it's shirtless pit with the black eye and the cigarette. And it's like in the fight thing.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:00:21
  4. pick The Pixies song over the ending
    “I don't think we sold hard enough in what stage the best, the ending with the pixie song.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:26:02

What Aged Worst · What has held up worst.

  1. pick The reveal that Tyler and the narrator are the same person: Everyone knows it now, so you lose the rush of the first viewing.
    “The reveal that... Tyler and narrator are the same person.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:05:36
  2. pick The brief self-fighting scenes that carry the twist: They are shown so fleetingly because the visuals do not hold up.
    “Well, I would say that the only thing that's also aged the worst about that twist is there's a reason why they so fleetingly show the self-fighting scenes.”
    Chris Ryan · 1:06:34
  3. pick Semi-glorified Project Mayhem stuff, like the Disinformation and Mischief boxes: Attribution inferred from the exchange.
    “I mean, it's, there's things kind of semi-glorified in this movie that there's people would just not go near. And, um, just the fact there's, when they have the whole headquarters, there's a box that says disinformation on it.”
    Chris Ryan · 1:07:04
  4. pick The running time: Should have been about two hours ten.
    “It's 15 minutes too long.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:07:33
  5. pick The Project Mayhem material after January 6th
    “No, it was basically the same thing that it's really when you watch like all the project mayhem stuff after like January 6th and all the stuff that we've kind of seen.”
    Chris Ryan · 1:08:04
  6. pick Helena Bonham Carter as Marla Singer: He argues the home-run part deserved an Oscar nomination in stronger hands; Chris disagrees.
    “Helena Bottom Carter, for what stage is worst.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:08:16

Ebert Review · Roger Ebert's review of the film.

  1. pick Fight Club: Two stars: visceral and hard-edged, a thrill ride masquerading as philosophy.
    “Ebert, our guy Raj, 2 stars.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:50:29

Apex Mountain · Where each person's career or work peaked, yes or no.

  1. pick Brad Pitt: No, because the movie was not that successful.
    “Because the movie wasn't that successful.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:24:34
  2. pick Edward Norton: Yes: it rounds out his six-movie run.
    “Ed Norton, I'm gonna say yes.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:24:36
  3. pick David Fincher: No: still The Social Network.
    “Fincher, I'm going to say still social network.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:24:57
  4. pick Rosie O'Donnell: Maybe.
    “Rosie O'Donnell, maybe.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:25:03
  5. pick Helena Bonham Carter: Yes, though he still does not love her in this movie.
    “Helena Bottom Carter, yes.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:25:39
  6. pick The Pixies: No, probably not.
    “No, probably not.”
    unknown · 1:25:45
  7. pick IKEA: Yes: great job in the late 90s, maybe not eventually.
    “IKEA, I think Apex Mountain.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:26:41
  8. pick Actual fight clubs: Yes: they sprang up everywhere.
    “Fight clubs, definitely.”
    unknown · 1:27:25
  9. pick Meat Loaf: No: he peaked in the 70s.
    “Meatloaf, I still say 70s, he probably peaked.”
    unknown · 1:27:36

Picking Nits · Nitpicks of a film they love.

  1. pick Not enough facial damage from all the fighting
    “Feels like there would be just more facial damage from Fight Club, like more broken eye sockets, broken noses, missing teeth.”
    unknown · 1:27:45
  2. pick Norton's untreated fractured orbital bone and double vision
    “It's just, I just feel like Ed Norton has double vision, maybe at the hour 20 mark of this movie from his fractured orbo bone that never got healed, then he got punched in it again or something.”
    unknown · 1:28:01
  3. pick Tyler's face damage not matching the narrator's
    “Why didn't the Tyler face damage match the narrator face damage?”
    unknown · 1:28:16
  4. pick The police not shutting down the house of domestic terrorists: Chris answers that there are cops in the fight clubs and in Project Mayhem.
    “At what point does the police just shut down this house of domestic terrorists who are having fight clubs all over the city.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:29:02

Unanswered Questions · Open questions the hosts put to each other.

  1. pick Could this be made as a 10-episode Netflix show: Probably could, but both say please do not remake it.
    “Could this be made as a 10 episode Netflix show.”
    Chris Ryan · 1:29:18
  2. pick What is the narrator's name: Concludes it is Jack, with Tyler as his alter ego.
    “There's a lot of confusion, and there's a lot of internet chatter about what's the narrator's name, and people have decided it's Jack because he says, I am Jack.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:29:45
  3. pick Did this movie create the anti-hero: Discussed as a question; the answer given is no.
    “Did this movie create the anti-hero?”
    unknown · 1:30:24
  4. pick Would MMA training have quickly ruined Fight Club
    “Wouldn't MMA training have quickly ruined Fight Club.”
    unknown · 1:30:54
  5. pick Did Reddit and Twitter replace Fight Club: Chris agrees social media has taken the space for cultish devotion.
    “Did Reddit and Twitter replace Fight Club?”
    Bill Simmons · 1:31:50
  6. pick The Trump Tyler Durden cultural personality: Both see the appeal of a leader offering lonely, disenfranchised people an alternate path.
    “Um, We just have to at least mention it, the Trump Tyler Durden, the cultural personality.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:33:15

Memorabilia · A piece of memorabilia they would want from the movie.

  1. pick The soap
    “The soap would probably be the obvious pick.”
    Chris Ryan · 1:34:15
  2. pick The printouts of the Fight Club rules from the narrator's work: Attribution inferred from the exchange.
    “I would I would enjoy maybe a couple of like the printouts, like why is like why is the the narrator character like printing out the fight club club rules at work?”
    Bill Simmons · 1:34:20
  3. pick The Disinformation and Mischief boxes
    “Just having those 2 boxes in my office.”
    unknown · 1:34:41
  4. pick Brad Pitt's first leather jacket
    “I think Brad Pitt's 1st jacket would be cool to have too.”
    unknown · 1:34:46

Oscar Picks · Who should have been nominated, retroactively.

  1. pick Edward Norton as the narrator: Best actor; Chris says he takes the Sean Penn spot.
    “I'm going to give you best actor, which Norton would be eligible for.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:43:40
  2. pick Brad Pitt as Tyler Durden: Best supporting actor; they discuss bumping Michael Clarke Duncan, Michael Caine or Haley Joel Osment.
    “And I'll give you best supporting actor for Pitt.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:43:44

What If It Were Made Today · How the film would differ if made now.

  1. pick Fight Club with sponsored product placement: It would still mock those brands, but they would be sponsored content in the movie.
    “Like, if you made Fight Club now, you might still make fun of those things, but you would definitely have all that stuff like would be, like, it would be Sponcon with in your movie.”
    Chris Ryan · 0:18:03

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Seven: 2 lines the host's read ×2

  1. career (career): Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read). Without Se7en's power Fincher does not get to do The Game and Fight Club his way.
    “I think without this movie, he doesn't go on this run”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:27:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)

Chuck Palahniuk: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (adaptation): Chuck Palahniuk ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read). The film adapts Palahniuk's novel; the speaker says the screenplay cribs straight from the book.
    “obviously the movie is, the book is very, he's cribbing right from the book.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:13:14 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Douglas Coupland: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (literary lineage): Douglas Coupland ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read). The speaker says the early car-recall section is right out of Coupland and Gen X writing.
    “It's right out of like Douglas Copeland or whatever, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:59:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

Panic Room: 3 lines the host's read ×3

  1. career (career): Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read). Panic Room read as a small antidote to the response to Fight Club.
    “This seemed like a little bit of an antidote to that because what's panic room about.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:19:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

Deadpool 2: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (joke template): Fight Club ⇒ Deadpool 2 (the host's read). A joke that Fight Club is the template Deadpool perfected.
    “I walked so that Deadpool could run.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:59:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Connected to

Panic Room: 6 lines contrast ×2 career ×1 craft ×1 unmapped ×1 people ×1

  1. career (career): Panic Room → Fight Club. Panic Room read as a small antidote to the response to Fight Club.
    “This seemed like a little bit of an antidote to that because what's panic room about.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:19:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

Seven: 5 lines contrast ×2 career ×2 craft ×1

  1. career (career): Seven → Fight Club. Without Se7en's power Fincher does not get to do The Game and Fight Club his way.
    “I think without this movie, he doesn't go on this run”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:27:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)

The Killer: 3 lines programming ×1 unmapped ×1 contrast ×1

  1. unmapped (narration): The Killer → Fight Club. They are the two Fincher films driven by complicit first-person narration, though Fight Club uses it for a reality-bending twist and The Killer stays objective.
    “They're the 2 Fincher movies that are driven by 1st person narration, and a 1st person narration where the tone is, you're with me.”
    The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:20:45 · Adam Nayman (0.85 sure it was them)

Alien 3: 2 lines industry ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (critic's verdict): Fight Club → Alien 3. In his Fight Club review Ebert called Alien 3 one of the best looking bad movies.
    “So Fight Club is when he said Alien 3 is one of the best looking bad movies I've ever seen.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 1:12:27 · Matt Singer (0.40 sure it was them)

Andrew Kevin Walker: 2 lines theme ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (script polish): Andrew Kevin Walker → Fight Club. Walker polished the script, as he did with The Game.
    “Andrew Kevin Walker, polish.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:14:16 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Easy Rider: 2 lines unmapped ×2

  1. unmapped (generational datedness): Easy Rider → Fight Club. Younger viewers may see Fight Club the way the speakers see Easy Rider.
    “younger people now watching that film would be like us watching Easy Rider.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac with Leslye Headland (Ad-Free) · 0:24:48 · Leslye Headland (0.70 sure it was them)

The Matrix: 2 lines theme ×1 industry ×1

  1. theme (mirror image): The Matrix → Fight Club. Norton's cubicle drone is called the mirror image of Keanu's in The Matrix.
    “He is the mirror image of Keanu in the Matrix, the same mirror, the, you know, the cubicle guy with the fucking, you know, ill-fitting white shirt”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:31:01 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

12 Monkeys: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (performance contrast): 12 Monkeys → Fight Club. Pitt in 12 Monkeys now looks like trying too hard compared with his ease in Fight Club.
    “I watch that movie, that performance now, and I'm like, he's trying so hard.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:09:50 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

A Clockwork Orange: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (generational pairing): A Clockwork Orange → Fight Club. Fight Club is called the Clockwork Orange of another generation, an Edge Lord pick.
    “This is kind of the clockwork Orange for another generation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:43:02 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Alex Ross Perry: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (formative pick): Alex Ross Perry → Fight Club. Perry's last three picks are called the building blocks of his entire personality, Fight Club among them.
    “It's a new trilogy of movies that basically are the building blocks of your entire personality.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:06:04 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

American Psycho: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (misread satire): American Psycho → Fight Club. Both films are satire that fans take at face value.
    “If you take this at face value, you are a fool and you are missing the point.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:44:58 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Bonnie and Clyde: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Bonnie and Clyde → Fight Club. Fight Club was not the first film of its decade the way Bonnie and Clyde was for the 70s.
    “It's not like, oh, funny and Clyde, 1st movie of the 70s.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:58:36 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Buck Henry: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (declined to write): Buck Henry → Fight Club. Fincher approached Buck Henry to write, who found nothing funny in it.
    “but Buck Henry's response was, I don't think there's anything funny about it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:12:41 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Cameron Crowe: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (script advice): Cameron Crowe → Fight Club. Fincher asked Crowe about Tyler Durden and was told to make him more unknowable.
    “make him more inscrutable.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:16:15 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Chuck Palahniuk: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (adaptation): Chuck Palahniuk → Fight Club. The film adapts Palahniuk's novel; the speaker says the screenplay cribs straight from the book.
    “obviously the movie is, the book is very, he's cribbing right from the book.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:13:14 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Conrad W. Hall: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (camera operator): Conrad W. Hall → Fight Club. The replacement DP had been a camera operator on Seven and Fight Club.
    “He been a camera operator on uh 7 in Fight Club.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 1:33:04 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

David O. Russell: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (passed on directing): David O. Russell → Fight Club. Fox first handed the book to David O. Russell, who says he did not understand it.
    “David O. Russell says he did not understand the book.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:53:32 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Deadpool 2: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (joke template): Fight Club → Deadpool 2. A joke that Fight Club is the template Deadpool perfected.
    “I walked so that Deadpool could run.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:59:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Douglas Coupland: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (literary lineage): Douglas Coupland → Fight Club. The speaker says the early car-recall section is right out of Coupland and Gen X writing.
    “It's right out of like Douglas Copeland or whatever, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:59:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Dr. Strangelove: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (satire that holds up): Fight Club → Dr. Strangelove. Leslye calls Fight Club a Strangelove-style satire that lasts because male toxicity is evergreen.
    “But to me, Fight Club is Doctor Strangelove.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac with Leslye Headland (Ad-Free) · 0:25:13 · Leslye Headland (0.85 sure it was them)

Dust Brothers: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (composer): Dust Brothers → Fight Club. After the first choice declined, Fincher gave the score to the Dust Brothers.
    “So instead he throws it to the Dust Brothers.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:22:32 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Eyes Wide Shut: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (marketing parallel): Eyes Wide Shut → Fight Club. Entertainment Tonight did an exclusive trailer premiere for both Eyes Wide Shut and Fight Club.
    “do the exclusive premiere of the trailer, which they also did for Eyes Wide Shut”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:56:25 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Feels Good Man: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (thematic echo): Feels Good Man → Fight Club. A documentary on Pepe the Frog is cited for how online nihilism turned political.
    “Feels good, man, which I think is an excellent documentary about the whole weird life cycle of Pepe the Frog,”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:53:18 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Ferris Bueller's Day Off: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (fan theory): Ferris Bueller's Day Off → Fight Club. The online theory that Ferris is a figment of Cameron's imagination is likened to Fight Club.
    “this is Cameron's fight club, you know, that Ferris is a figment of Cameron's imagination”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:02:36 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)

Gone Girl: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (unreliable voiceover): Fight Club → Gone Girl. Fight Club, Gone Girl and The Killer share voiceover that turns out to be lying.
    “But like, Fight Club, Gone, Girl, and the killer are all very unreliable voice.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:06:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Jackass: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (shared theme): Jackass → Fight Club. A speaker says the urge Fight Club is getting at reaches its peak form in Jackass.
    “I do find like the expression of what this movie is sort of getting at for me reaches its peak form in jackass.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:46:32 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Jared Leto: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Jared Leto → Fight Club. Fight Club made the cast stars (Norton, Pitt) and Bill expected Panic Room to do the same for Leto.
    “I think I kind of expected that to happen for Jared Leto in this movie when it 1st came out.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:22:49 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

Joshua Donen: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (brought the book): Joshua Donen → Fight Club. Donen recorded a reading of the novel and sent it to Fox 2000.
    “loves the twist of the book, the iconic twist at the end,”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:50:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Old School: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (joke structure): Old School → Fight Club. The Godfather secret in front of Pompeo works like a Fight Club rule about not talking about it outside.
    “It's a great, like, fight club joke.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:05:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

Raymond Bongiovanni: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (champion): Raymond Bongiovanni → Fight Club. A Fox executive's obituary said bringing Fight Club to the screen was his dying wish.
    “his his obituary claimed that bringing Fight Club to the screen was his dying wish.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:52:49 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Slacker: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (generational pairing): Slacker → Fight Club. Klosterman, as read, names Slacker or Fight Club as the decade's most generationally defining film.
    “either slacker or fight club, could justifiably be called the decade's most generationally defining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:57:12 · Alex Ross Perry (0.45 sure it was them)

The Graduate: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (comparison (Fincher's own)): The Graduate → Fight Club. Reading the dossier, the speaker says Fincher's big comparison for Fight Club was The Graduate: coming of age, but in your 30s.
    “His big comparison, which I do think is very interesting, is he's like, this is the graduate, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:55:00 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

The Incredible Hulk: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Fight Club → The Incredible Hulk. Norton's live-wire narrator in Fight Club was a blueprint for a Banner performance, yet he is boring in this.
    “the narrator in Fight Club kind of feels like a perfect show reel for a Bruce Banner performance, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:06 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

The Italian Job: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (business trade): The Italian Job → Fight Club. Paramount let Norton do Fight Club on condition he do The Italian Job.
    “He gets permission to appear in this movie with Italian job as the price,”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:37:50 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)

The Killer (graphic novel): 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (narration comparison): The Killer (graphic novel) → Fight Club. The comic's killer has an inner monologue closer to the Fight Club narrator.
    “it's more that like this guy's inner monologue is closer to Edward Norton Fight Club.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free) · 0:41:40 · unknown (host) (0.30 sure it was them)

The People vs. Larry Flynt: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (casting): The People vs. Larry Flynt → Fight Club. Fincher cast Norton off his work in Larry Flynt, which had the same vibe.
    “But Fincher casts him in this off of people versus Larry Flynn, which is very much the same vibe.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:17:49 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

The Sixth Sense: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (twist pairing): The Sixth Sense → Fight Club. Two big twist movies, ten weeks apart, with the same fake-person reveal.
    “That's the same twist twice, 10 weeks apart.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:08:56 · Alex Ross Perry (0.40 sure it was them)

Thom Yorke: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (declined score): Thom Yorke → Fight Club. Yorke was Fincher's first choice to score Fight Club and says he regrets saying no.
    “His 1st choice to score this film was Tom York.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:22:13 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (4)

  1. career (career): Panic Room → Fight Club. Panic Room read as a small antidote to the response to Fight Club.
    “This seemed like a little bit of an antidote to that because what's panic room about.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:19:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Jared Leto → Fight Club. Fight Club made the cast stars (Norton, Pitt) and Bill expected Panic Room to do the same for Leto.
    “I think I kind of expected that to happen for Jared Leto in this movie when it 1st came out.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:22:49 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. career (career): Seven → Fight Club. Without Se7en's power Fincher does not get to do The Game and Fight Club his way.
    “I think without this movie, he doesn't go on this run”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:27:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)
  4. career (career lever): Seven → Fight Club. Se7en's success is what let Fincher make the seemingly impossible Fight Club.
    “But the fight club is him more being like, okay, guys, I know this seems impossible, but I made seven.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 1:05:55 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

contrast (7)

  1. contrast (contrast): Panic Room → Fight Club. Fincher assumed a one-location film would be easier than Fight Club's 400 scenes in 100 locations; it was harder.
    “He does Fight Club and it's an insane movie to make, I think he said, Fight Club at 400 scenes in 100 locations.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:15:25 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): Panic Room → Fight Club. Panic Room is one of the first Fincher films where the audience is with the characters the whole time.
    “And panic room is this real-time experience.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:42:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast): Seven → Fight Club. Fight Club feels more optimistic and is a love story, whereas Se7en says do not care about anything.
    “Fight club's a love story.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:27:08 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
  4. contrast (contrast): The Killer → Fight Club. Fight Club is about societal and male-psyche breakdown; The Killer is about a functioning guy who messed up at work.
    “Fight Club is about the breakdown of society and the male psyche. The killer is about a guy who's like, shit, I fucked up at work”
    The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:22:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. contrast (contrast): Seven → Fight Club. Seven was fucked up in a way entirely different from Fight Club, yet studios treated Fincher as the fucked-up guy.
    “it's fucked up in a way that's entirely different from this movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:58:26 · Alex Ross Perry (0.45 sure it was them)
  6. contrast (contrast): Bonnie and Clyde → Fight Club. Fight Club was not the first film of its decade the way Bonnie and Clyde was for the 70s.
    “It's not like, oh, funny and Clyde, 1st movie of the 70s.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:58:36 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  7. contrast (contrast): Fight Club → The Incredible Hulk. Norton's live-wire narrator in Fight Club was a blueprint for a Banner performance, yet he is boring in this.
    “the narrator in Fight Club kind of feels like a perfect show reel for a Bruce Banner performance, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:16:06 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

craft (5)

  1. craft (craft): Panic Room → Fight Club. The inside-the-house camera moves Fincher started in Fight Club are fully developed in Panic Room.
    “And there's a lot of like stuff that he had started to do a little bit with Fight Club is like really like fleshed out in panic room”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:20:53 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): Seven → Fight Club. Fincher's cigarette burn shot in Fight Club is compared to the half-second Gwyneth shot in Se7en.
    “I always think of Gwyneth as like a cigarette burn a little bit.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:08:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. craft (joke structure): Old School → Fight Club. The Godfather secret in front of Pompeo works like a Fight Club rule about not talking about it outside.
    “It's a great, like, fight club joke.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:05:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. craft (camera operator): Conrad W. Hall → Fight Club. The replacement DP had been a camera operator on Seven and Fight Club.
    “He been a camera operator on uh 7 in Fight Club.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 1:33:04 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. craft (declined score): Thom Yorke → Fight Club. Yorke was Fincher's first choice to score Fight Club and says he regrets saying no.
    “His 1st choice to score this film was Tom York.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:22:13 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

industry (3)

  1. industry (studio history): Alien 3 → Fight Club. Fincher's bad time at Fox on Alien 3 is why he did not want Fox to have Fight Club.
    “he had obviously had a terrible experience with Fox, doing Alien three.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:55:13 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. industry (release context): The Matrix → Fight Club. The Matrix got tagged with the Columbine fallout because the two films opened so close together.
    “The Matrix has gotten tagged so much with the columbine shit because they were so close together.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:39:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. industry (marketing parallel): Eyes Wide Shut → Fight Club. Entertainment Tonight did an exclusive trailer premiere for both Eyes Wide Shut and Fight Club.
    “do the exclusive premiere of the trailer, which they also did for Eyes Wide Shut”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:56:25 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

lineage (2)

  1. lineage (adaptation): Chuck Palahniuk → Fight Club. The film adapts Palahniuk's novel; the speaker says the screenplay cribs straight from the book.
    “obviously the movie is, the book is very, he's cribbing right from the book.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:13:14 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (literary lineage): Douglas Coupland → Fight Club. The speaker says the early car-recall section is right out of Coupland and Gen X writing.
    “It's right out of like Douglas Copeland or whatever, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:59:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

people (4)

  1. people (shared lead actor): Panic Room → Fight Club. Fincher put Jared Leto through physical abuse in both Fight Club and Panic Room.
    “Because in the fight club as well, he gets a shipping down.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 1:15:03 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. people (casting): The People vs. Larry Flynt → Fight Club. Fincher cast Norton off his work in Larry Flynt, which had the same vibe.
    “But Fincher casts him in this off of people versus Larry Flynn, which is very much the same vibe.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:17:49 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. people (performance contrast): 12 Monkeys → Fight Club. Pitt in 12 Monkeys now looks like trying too hard compared with his ease in Fight Club.
    “I watch that movie, that performance now, and I'm like, he's trying so hard.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:09:50 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. people (composer): Dust Brothers → Fight Club. After the first choice declined, Fincher gave the score to the Dust Brothers.
    “So instead he throws it to the Dust Brothers.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:22:32 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

programming (4)

  1. programming (paired double feature): The Killer → Fight Club. Both are very funny first-person-narrated films about sociopaths who rationalize brutal violence as a personal mission.
    “This movie would make a neat pairing with Fight Club. Two very funny films about sociopaths whose inner monologues rationalize brutal violence as expressions of a personal mission.”
    The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:20:30 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. programming (twist pairing): The Sixth Sense → Fight Club. Two big twist movies, ten weeks apart, with the same fake-person reveal.
    “That's the same twist twice, 10 weeks apart.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:08:56 · Alex Ross Perry (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. programming (generational pairing): A Clockwork Orange → Fight Club. Fight Club is called the Clockwork Orange of another generation, an Edge Lord pick.
    “This is kind of the clockwork Orange for another generation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:43:02 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  4. programming (generational pairing): Slacker → Fight Club. Klosterman, as read, names Slacker or Fight Club as the decade's most generationally defining film.
    “either slacker or fight club, could justifiably be called the decade's most generationally defining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:57:12 · Alex Ross Perry (0.45 sure it was them)

theme (6)

  1. theme (narration comparison): The Killer (graphic novel) → Fight Club. The comic's killer has an inner monologue closer to the Fight Club narrator.
    “it's more that like this guy's inner monologue is closer to Edward Norton Fight Club.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free) · 0:41:40 · unknown (host) (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. theme (recurring motif): Andrew Kevin Walker → Fight Club. Walker brought a similar modern-tech angle (name tags) to Fight Club.
    “I think he had some of that in fight club too”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free) · 0:48:38 · unknown (host) (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. theme (shared theme): Jackass → Fight Club. A speaker says the urge Fight Club is getting at reaches its peak form in Jackass.
    “I do find like the expression of what this movie is sort of getting at for me reaches its peak form in jackass.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:46:32 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. theme (comparison (Fincher's own)): The Graduate → Fight Club. Reading the dossier, the speaker says Fincher's big comparison for Fight Club was The Graduate: coming of age, but in your 30s.
    “His big comparison, which I do think is very interesting, is he's like, this is the graduate, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:55:00 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. theme (mirror image): The Matrix → Fight Club. Norton's cubicle drone is called the mirror image of Keanu's in The Matrix.
    “He is the mirror image of Keanu in the Matrix, the same mirror, the, you know, the cubicle guy with the fucking, you know, ill-fitting white shirt”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:31:01 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  6. theme (thematic echo): Feels Good Man → Fight Club. A documentary on Pepe the Frog is cited for how online nihilism turned political.
    “Feels good, man, which I think is an excellent documentary about the whole weird life cycle of Pepe the Frog,”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:53:18 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (18)

  1. unmapped (fan theory): Ferris Bueller's Day Off → Fight Club. The online theory that Ferris is a figment of Cameron's imagination is likened to Fight Club.
    “this is Cameron's fight club, you know, that Ferris is a figment of Cameron's imagination”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:02:36 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (narration): The Killer → Fight Club. They are the two Fincher films driven by complicit first-person narration, though Fight Club uses it for a reality-bending twist and The Killer stays objective.
    “They're the 2 Fincher movies that are driven by 1st person narration, and a 1st person narration where the tone is, you're with me.”
    The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:20:45 · Adam Nayman (0.85 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (unreliable voiceover): Fight Club → Gone Girl. Fight Club, Gone Girl and The Killer share voiceover that turns out to be lying.
    “But like, Fight Club, Gone, Girl, and the killer are all very unreliable voice.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:06:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (generational datedness): Easy Rider → Fight Club. Younger viewers may see Fight Club the way the speakers see Easy Rider.
    “younger people now watching that film would be like us watching Easy Rider.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac with Leslye Headland (Ad-Free) · 0:24:48 · Leslye Headland (0.70 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (satire that holds up): Fight Club → Dr. Strangelove. Leslye calls Fight Club a Strangelove-style satire that lasts because male toxicity is evergreen.
    “But to me, Fight Club is Doctor Strangelove.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac with Leslye Headland (Ad-Free) · 0:25:13 · Leslye Headland (0.85 sure it was them)
  6. unmapped (response to): Fight Club → Panic Room. A host says Panic Room is a conscious response to Fight Club, which flopped and tried to be about everything.
    “Yes. And I feel like it's a very conscious response to fight club.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 0:24:52 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  7. unmapped (formative pick): Alex Ross Perry → Fight Club. Perry's last three picks are called the building blocks of his entire personality, Fight Club among them.
    “It's a new trilogy of movies that basically are the building blocks of your entire personality.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:06:04 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  8. unmapped (brought the book): Joshua Donen → Fight Club. Donen recorded a reading of the novel and sent it to Fox 2000.
    “loves the twist of the book, the iconic twist at the end,”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:50:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  9. unmapped (champion): Raymond Bongiovanni → Fight Club. A Fox executive's obituary said bringing Fight Club to the screen was his dying wish.
    “his his obituary claimed that bringing Fight Club to the screen was his dying wish.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:52:49 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  10. unmapped (passed on directing): David O. Russell → Fight Club. Fox first handed the book to David O. Russell, who says he did not understand it.
    “David O. Russell says he did not understand the book.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:53:32 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  11. unmapped (generational time capsule): Easy Rider → Fight Club. Alex says a young viewer today would find Fight Club the way he found Easy Rider: he can see what it meant but it does not connect.
    “this is like kids watching this now, I think, would be like when I watched Easy Rider.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:02:47 · Alex Ross Perry (0.60 sure it was them)
  12. unmapped (declined to write): Buck Henry → Fight Club. Fincher approached Buck Henry to write, who found nothing funny in it.
    “but Buck Henry's response was, I don't think there's anything funny about it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:12:41 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  13. unmapped (script polish): Andrew Kevin Walker → Fight Club. Walker polished the script, as he did with The Game.
    “Andrew Kevin Walker, polish.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:14:16 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  14. unmapped (script advice): Cameron Crowe → Fight Club. Fincher asked Crowe about Tyler Durden and was told to make him more unknowable.
    “make him more inscrutable.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:16:15 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  15. unmapped (business trade): The Italian Job → Fight Club. Paramount let Norton do Fight Club on condition he do The Italian Job.
    “He gets permission to appear in this movie with Italian job as the price,”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:37:50 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
  16. unmapped (joke template): Fight Club → Deadpool 2. A joke that Fight Club is the template Deadpool perfected.
    “I walked so that Deadpool could run.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:59:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  17. unmapped (misread satire): American Psycho → Fight Club. Both films are satire that fans take at face value.
    “If you take this at face value, you are a fool and you are missing the point.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:44:58 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  18. unmapped (critic's verdict): Fight Club → Alien 3. In his Fight Club review Ebert called Alien 3 one of the best looking bad movies.
    “So Fight Club is when he said Alien 3 is one of the best looking bad movies I've ever seen.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 1:12:27 · Matt Singer (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Fight Club: Listener pictures Ed Norton's narrator looking at Bill praising new top boy Craig.
    “I feel like destroying something beautiful.”
    The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 0:12:18 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Fight Club: The Killer is 'a guy who's like, shit, I fucked up at work', 20 years after Fight Club's society collapse.
    “that's amazing to come like 20 years later and land there”
    The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:22:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Fight Club: The three detectives are named for the polish writer Andrew Kevin Walker, split across scenes.
    “The 3 detectives in this movie are named Detective Andrew, Detective Kevin Deveca Walker.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:14:33 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Fight Club: Fox gave Fincher about $750,000 and six more weeks, which also moved the release to fall.
    “they gave him like $750,000, another 6 weeks to refine it and push it back because of that.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:39:06 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about Fight Club: In China the release added a tacked-on text ending where the police stop everything.
    “It ends with a note to viewers that says, through the clue provided by Tyler, the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all criminals successfully preventing the bomb from exploding.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:01:49 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about Fight Club: Timing the Dust Brothers-adjacent song MMMBop to the car crash scene.
    “If you actually, if you time Mbop with that scene in Fight Club, it works out perfectly.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:23:25 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about Fight Club: The key father-talk scene was reshot on a playground under a rusty swing after Fincher thought it sucked.
    “They shot that scene on like a children's playground underneath like a rusty swing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:32:22 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about Fight Club: At the Venice premiere the film was booed while Pitt grinned.
    “Brad Pitt turns to him with like a huge smile on his face being like, this is the best movie I've ever been in.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 3:08:47 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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