The Verdict (1982)

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Wikidata Q679373, film, IMDb tt0084855, TMDB 24226: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Paul Newman as actor (The Color of Money with Chris Ryan); 2 more episodes agree.

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Who talked about it

Blank Check with Griffin & David

The Big Picture

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

No line says it drew on another film or person.

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

A Few Good Men: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Verdict ⇒ A Few Good Men (the host's read). You cannot have A Few Good Men without The Verdict; everything on the courtroom checklist comes from it.
    “you really, really cannot have a few good men without having the verdict”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:07:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

The Firm: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Verdict ⇒ The Firm (the host's read). The Verdict is foundational for the Grisham underdog stories.
    “foundational for a lot of the Grisham stories”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:08:58 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

Connected to

The Color of Money: 4 lines industry ×2 contrast ×1 craft ×1

  1. industry (Oscar context): The Color of Money → The Verdict. Newman lost for The Verdict in a brutal year (Hoffman in Tootsie, Kingsley in Gandhi) then won in 1987 against a weaker slate.
    “In 87 when they give out the 86 Oscars. You know, it's it's a much weaker slate”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:06:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

A Few Good Men: 2 lines lineage ×1 contrast ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): A Few Good Men → The Verdict. You cannot have A Few Good Men without The Verdict; everything on the courtroom checklist comes from it.
    “you really, really cannot have a few good men without having the verdict”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:07:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

Paul Newman: 2 lines verdict ×1 career ×1

  1. career (career): Paul Newman → The Verdict. Newman's charm carries the film and a flawed character.
    “Newman just fits”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:11:54 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

...And Justice for All: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Verdict → ...And Justice for All. Justice for All was tonally all over the place and didn't make the list; The Verdict is a diamond.
    “The verdict on the other hand, is a diamond”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:08:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Anatomy of a Murder: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Anatomy of a Murder → The Verdict. Anatomy is cynical; it is not about who wins but who was on trial, a red herring verdict.
    “Like the movie is not about who wins and who loses”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 0:49:25 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)

David Mamet: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): The Verdict → David Mamet. Written by Mamet, one of his first screenplays.
    “written by David Mammon”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:08:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career-arc comparison): Once Upon a Time in Hollywood → The Verdict. This period of Pitt (Moneyball, OUATIH) is likened to Newman's The Verdict and Color of Money stage.
    “once upon a time in Hollywood is, like, almost like verdict, color of Money Newman.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:07:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

The Firm: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Verdict → The Firm. The Verdict is foundational for the Grisham underdog stories.
    “foundational for a lot of the Grisham stories”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:08:58 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

Tom Cruise: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Tom Cruise → The Verdict. Cruise should do a serious historical drama, something like The Verdict.
    “It should be the verdict or a movie like that.”
    The Big Picture · Steven Spielberg's Top 5 Movies With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan | The Big Picture (Ep. 57) · 1:02:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (2)

  1. career (career-arc comparison): Once Upon a Time in Hollywood → The Verdict. This period of Pitt (Moneyball, OUATIH) is likened to Newman's The Verdict and Color of Money stage.
    “once upon a time in Hollywood is, like, almost like verdict, color of Money Newman.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:07:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Paul Newman → The Verdict. Newman's charm carries the film and a flawed character.
    “Newman just fits”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:11:54 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

contrast (4)

  1. contrast (tonal contrast): The Color of Money → The Verdict. In both films Newman is battered yet hot, but pool hustler reads as cool while The Verdict makes the loser life look sad.
    “In this one, it's like, you're like, air pool player, that's cool. And the verdict, you're like, wow, you you suck.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:46:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): Anatomy of a Murder → The Verdict. Anatomy is cynical; it is not about who wins but who was on trial, a red herring verdict.
    “Like the movie is not about who wins and who loses”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 0:49:25 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast): The Verdict → ...And Justice for All. Justice for All was tonally all over the place and didn't make the list; The Verdict is a diamond.
    “The verdict on the other hand, is a diamond”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:08:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  4. contrast (contrast): The Verdict → A Few Good Men. Verdict's results hinge on integrity and decency, a counterpoint to being right or wrong.
    “a lot of these movies which are about the vagaries of being right and wrong”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:09:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)

craft (1)

  1. craft (set-design / visual): The Color of Money → The Verdict. Both are ranked on the podium of burnished-wood movies.
    “I call that the greatest burnished wood movie of all time. This one has a, but this is in on the podium with that.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:47:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

industry (2)

  1. industry (Oscar gold watch): The Color of Money → The Verdict. The Oscar for Color of Money is treated as a gold-watch win after the Verdict snub, awarded the year after his honorary Oscar.
    “This is kind of one of the most famous gold watch Oscar wins, right? They give it to him the year after they give him the lifetime achievement award.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:57:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. industry (Oscar context): The Color of Money → The Verdict. Newman lost for The Verdict in a brutal year (Hoffman in Tootsie, Kingsley in Gandhi) then won in 1987 against a weaker slate.
    “In 87 when they give out the 86 Oscars. You know, it's it's a much weaker slate”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:06:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

lineage (2)

  1. lineage (lineage): A Few Good Men → The Verdict. You cannot have A Few Good Men without The Verdict; everything on the courtroom checklist comes from it.
    “you really, really cannot have a few good men without having the verdict”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:07:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): The Verdict → The Firm. The Verdict is foundational for the Grisham underdog stories.
    “foundational for a lot of the Grisham stories”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:08:58 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (people): The Verdict → David Mamet. Written by Mamet, one of his first screenplays.
    “written by David Mammon”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:08:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

verdict (2)

  1. verdict (career best): Paul Newman → The Verdict. The Verdict is named Newman's best performance and the one he should have won an Oscar for.
    “Verdict, I think, is his best performance.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:03:17 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (verdict): The Verdict → The Verdict. Dawn of the modern courtroom drama.
    “this is basically the dawn of the modern courtroom drama”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:07:43 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

what-if (1)

  1. what-if (what-if): Tom Cruise → The Verdict. Cruise should do a serious historical drama, something like The Verdict.
    “It should be the verdict or a movie like that.”
    The Big Picture · Steven Spielberg's Top 5 Movies With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan | The Big Picture (Ep. 57) · 1:02:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about The Verdict: Sean tweeted about the judge and Bill Simmons texted back instantly; it is one of Bill's favorites.
    “I got a text message from Bill Simmons instantaneously”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:07:00 · Sean Fennessey (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about The Verdict: Newman hits a woman in the film, which both hosts find incongruous and would cut.
    “you could even excise it and it would work fine”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:12:33 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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