Phoebe Cates
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q14439: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.
Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: The Big Chill (1983); Father of the Bride (1991).
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Father of the Bride (1950): 1 line
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lineage (remake) · through Father of the Bride (1991), which they were tied to as actor, offered Annie role:
Father of the Bride ⇒ Father of the Bride (the host's read).
The 1991 film remakes the Spencer Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor original, and the duo argue the remake anxiety has faded with time.
“there is obviously the original with Spencer Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor, but fine.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:02:04 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Parenthood (1989): 1 line
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verdict (best-Martin-movie rival) · through Father of the Bride (1991), which they were tied to as actor, offered Annie role:
Parenthood ⇒ Father of the Bride (the host's read).
Some would pick Parenthood as his best because it tried this type of movie first and spun off into a TV show.
“Some people might say parenthood actually, because it's the 1st type of movie that tried to do the stuff they did.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:51 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
Return of the Secaucus 7: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they were tied to as auditioned for Chloe:
Return of the Secaucus 7 ⇒ The Big Chill (the host's read).
Called a precursor to The Big Chill.
“precursor to this movie, Socaucus 7 is like this.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:05:04 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
10 Years: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they were tied to as auditioned for Chloe:
The Big Chill ⇒ 10 Years (the host's read).
Another reunion-with-a-great-cast attempt that did not match The Big Chill.
“I kind of like 10 years.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:05:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Beautiful Girls (1996): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they were tied to as auditioned for Chloe:
The Big Chill ⇒ Beautiful Girls (the host's read).
Named among the later films that tried and failed to be the Big Chill for a new generation, along with About Alex.
“I remember beautiful girls tried in the mid 90s and there's a movie called About Alex and the mid 2010s.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:04:50 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Bill Clinton: 1 line
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theme (theme) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they were tied to as auditioned for Chloe:
The Big Chill ⇒ Bill Clinton (the host's read).
EW's 15th anniversary review blamed The Big Chill for soundtrack albums, 30-something, and Bill Clinton.
“Hell, blame the big show for Bill Quinton.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:29:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Father of the Bride Part 3 (Netflix Zoom reunion): 1 line
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lineage (pandemic sequel) · through Father of the Bride (1991), which they were tied to as actor, offered Annie role:
Father of the Bride ⇒ Father of the Bride Part 3 (Netflix Zoom reunion) (the host's read).
The virtual Netflix reunion is called a low point of the pandemic.
“The virtual Netflix sequel. I think was one of the low points of the pandemic.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:47:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
Father of the Bride Part II (1995): 1 line
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lineage (sequel) · through Father of the Bride (1991), which they were tied to as actor, offered Annie role:
Father of the Bride ⇒ Father of the Bride Part II (the host's read).
Dobbins is okay with Part II because it comments on weddings and pregnancy smartly and she likes the family; it made $76.6M on a $30M budget.
“I'm okay with Father of the Bride too.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:46:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.90 sure it was them)
Four Weddings and a Funeral (1994): 1 line
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lineage (genre influence) · through Father of the Bride (1991), which they were tied to as actor, offered Annie role:
Father of the Bride ⇒ Four Weddings and a Funeral (the host's read).
Father of the Bride starts the 90s wedding-movie explosion that includes Four Weddings, Wedding Planner and Wedding Singer.
“This like really starts the 90s explosion of everything from 4 weddings and a funeral to wedding planner and wedding singer and you name it.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:03:26 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)
Hometown (TV series): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they were tied to as auditioned for Chloe:
The Big Chill ⇒ Hometown (TV series) (the host's read).
The Big Chill was adapted as a short-lived 16-episode TV series called Hometown in 1986.
“As the short-lived series hometown?”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:11:06 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Reality Bites (1994): 1 line
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theme (theme) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they were tied to as auditioned for Chloe:
The Big Chill ⇒ Reality Bites (the host's read).
Reality Bites is the young-person reaction to the sold-out generation The Big Chill depicts.
“And then that's why like reality bites hits and you see reality bites and you're like, oh, that's why Troy is like, fuck everything.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:12:44 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
The Intervention: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they were tied to as auditioned for Chloe:
The Big Chill ⇒ The Intervention (the host's read).
Another indie friends-weekend film in the same vortex.
“There was a movie called The Intervention.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:05:24 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Other (2) everyone in other
- auditioned for Chloe, The Big Chill (The Rewatchables, ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- actor, offered Annie role, Father of the Bride (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
What was said about them, by kind
people (1)
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people (people):
Phoebe Cates → Kevin Kline.
Kline met Cates because she auditioned for Chloe.
“Kevin Klein met Phoebe Cates because she auditioned for Chloe.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:22:59 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
what-if (3)
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what-if (what-if):
Phoebe Cates → Meg Tilly.
Cates read for Chloe; Tilly got it. Cates seen as too famous.
“I think Phoebe Cates is like too famous almost.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:23:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
what-if (casting what-if):
Phoebe Cates → Father of the Bride.
Cates was offered Annie Banks but turned it down because she was pregnant.
“Phoebe Cates. Offered the role of Annie Banks. had to turn it down because she was pregnant.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:53:56 · Bill Simmons (0.75 sure it was them) -
what-if (alternate-universe rival):
Phoebe Cates → Demi Moore.
Cates would have taken half of Demi Moore's parts if she had fought for them.
“If she had just said, I'm fighting for every Demi Moore part with Demi Moore. she gets half of them.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:54:41 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Phoebe Cates:
Casting what-if: Phoebe Cates was offered Annie Banks but was pregnant. Simmons says she and Demi Moore would have split the Demi Moore parts.
“Phoebe Cates. Offered the role of Annie Banks. had to turn it down because she was pregnant.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:53:56 · Bill Simmons (0.75 sure it was them)