Father of the Bride (1991)

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In the store as #523, Father of the Bride (1991).

The Rewatchables' awards

From ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins (2021-12-22):

Most rewatchable scene

  1. pick The opening monologue, where Steve Martin talks to the camera
    “The opening monologue I mentioned before.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:25:55
  2. pick Annie tells her parents she's getting married
    “So, this scene was rewatchable anyway because Steve Martin's so funny in it.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:27:40
  3. pick Meeting Brian, the son-in-law
    “Next scene, meeting Brian, the son-in-law.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:34:00
  4. pick Cutting down the wedding list
    “Next one I have is cutting down the wedding list, which is a shorter scene, but if you've ever been married is so, it's so cutthroat as you're trying to figure out whatever you want to get to your number.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:35:03
  5. pick The blender fight between Annie and Brian, and George grappling with the blender
    “The uh, the Bunder fight, which we needed a little melodrama in there, but I actually think, I think Kimberly Williams, and we'll talk about her later too.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:35:27
  6. pick The kid montage into the father-daughter basketball scene
    “Last one I have is the kid montage basketball scene.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:36:12
  7. pick Annie saying she's getting married, the first family dinner scene
    “Mine is Annie saying she's getting married.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:37:12
  8. pick The hot dog and hot dog bun math scene
    “The hot dog hot dog bun scene.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:44:21

What Aged the Best · What about the movie holds up best today.

  1. pick Kieran Culkin as Matty Banks: Watching the kid who grows up to be Roman Roy on Succession.
    “It is so fucking hilarious to watch this and think that kid's going to be Roman Roy.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:37:34
  2. pick Kimberly Williams as Annie Banks: Likable, with real father-daughter chemistry with Steve Martin.
    “Just a utter delight in this movie.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:38:41
  3. pick San Marino: A wonderful place he has visited for soccer games.
    “I'm putting that in as a wet stage, the best, especially after having gone to many soccer games there and, uh, It's a wonderful place.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:40:41
  4. pick The father-daughter basketball scene: As well as a dad-daughter basketball scene could go.
    “I have the basketball scene for what stage the best, only because we've seen this go badly.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:41:34
  5. pick The overwhelmed dad who can't afford the wedding: Still accurate to how weddings spin out of control.
    “A couple more would say it's the best. The overwhelmed dad who can't totally afford the wedding is just a great movie plot.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:43:06
  6. pick The house
    “We mentioned the house for what stage the best.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:43:49

What Aged the Worst · What about the movie plays worst today.

  1. pick Annie getting married at 22: Felt abrupt even in 1991.
    “We mention it, but let's hit it again, 22 getting married at 22.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:45:58
  2. pick The virtual Netflix sequel (Zoom table read): Called a low point of the pandemic.
    “The virtual Netflix sequel.”
    unknown · 0:47:27
  3. pick The parking situation at the wedding: Nobody would drive to a wedding now; too many cars; cops and kids driving.
    “Um, The parking situation at the wedding is the wood stage the worst, just because nobody would drive to a wedding now for a couple of reasons.”
    unknown · 0:48:06
  4. pick Diane Keaton's clothes: Of a moment, though the high-waisted khaki look is coming back, so it may be aging best now.
    “Diane Keaton's clothes, some some winners.”
    unknown · 0:48:51
  5. pick Diane Keaton as the mom (stunt casting): Was a hook at the time; nobody would see it as stunt casting now.
    “Slight stunt casting with Diane Keaton as the mom in this movie at the time that now nobody would think was dunk casting.”
    unknown · 0:49:41
  6. pick Falling in the pool: Too hacky and unrealistic compared with the rest of the movie.
    “I just don't love the falling in the pool scene.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:50:40
  7. pick Franck the wedding planner's accent gag as Franck (Martin Short): The running accent joke is not comedy in 2021; also a one-note gag.
    “Well, because I would say, specifically, like the accent gag, just is not a type of comedy we do anymore of, like, oh, what?”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:51:47

Casting What Ifs · Almost-castings and recasts.

  1. pick Steve Martin as George Banks: Cast before the screenplay was written; the movie was built around him.
    “Steve Martin cast before they wrote the screenplay.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:53:35
  2. pick Phoebe Cates as Annie Banks: Offered the role but turned it down because she was pregnant.
    “Phoebe Cates, who my generation, um, completely loves and is all in on, but, um, never had like, like great follow-up role and then just got married to Kevin Klein started having kids.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:54:20
  3. pick Diane Keaton as Nina Banks: Reads her account that Disney did not want her after The Good Mother and Shyer and Meyers had to beg.
    “Charles Shire, Nancy Myers, who'd worked with me before, had to beg to get me into Father of the Bride.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:55:06
  4. pick George Clooney as Brian MacKenzie: 1991 Clooney as the son-in-law, boyish and charming, and a bit more of a threat.
    “And now as you're watching this years later, it's like, 0 my, I can't believe George Clooney was the son-in-law, just would have been a fun wrinkle.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:59:37

Best That Guy (Joey Pants Award) · Best familiar face whose name people don't know.

  1. nominee B.D. Wong as Howard Weinstein: Past winner; Bill thinks he has graduated from the award.
    “It B.D. Wong's won this before.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:55:47
  2. winner George Newburn as Brian MacKenzie: Prolific actor and an Audible narrator with over 350 credits.
    “All right, so we'll give him we'll give it to George Newburn.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:57:31

Vincent Hanna Award · Best overacting.

  1. winner Martin Short as Franck: Reframed as most overacting rather than best.
    “Martin Short.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:57:44

Dion Waiters Award · Best heat check in a small role.

  1. nominee Eugene Levy as Mr. Mackenzie: In one scene, fine.
    “Eugene Levy's in one scene.”
    unknown · 0:58:03
  2. nominee B.D. Wong as Howard Weinstein: Funny facial expressions that add something.
    “I really like B.D. Wong.”
    unknown · 0:58:07
  3. winner Kieran Culkin as Matty Banks
    “We'll give it to Karen Culkin.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:58:49

Apex Mountain · Whether this movie is the peak of a person's or thing's career.

  1. pick Steve Martin: True apex is around 1978-79, but this starts mainstream Steve Martin and counts as the apex of that second career.
    “Yeah, mainstream Steve Martin.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:02:05
  2. pick Diane Keaton: No; her apex is Annie Hall, and mainstream peak is later (Something's Gotta Give, circa 2003).
    “Yeah. Like 13, 14 years before this movie.”
    unknown · 1:02:34
  3. pick Kimberly Williams: Yes.
    “Kimberly Williams, yes.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:02:38
  4. pick Father-daughter movies: Undeniably yes.
    “Father daughter movies, undeniably, yes.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:02:40
  5. pick Nancy Meyers: No.
    “Nancy Myers, no.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:02:44
  6. pick San Marino: Yes, 100%.
    “San Marino, 100%, yes.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:02:45
  7. pick Wedding movies: Yes; it is the happy wedding-movie apex and started the 90s wedding movie explosion.
    “Even though we have nitpicks, I still think it's the wedding movie Apex.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:03:02

Picking Nits · Nitpicks of a movie they love, mostly about the wedding.

  1. pick No father-daughter dance; the father would be in the run of show
    “There's no father, father-daughter dance.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:03:55
  2. pick The wedding planner gets an invitation: He's working the wedding and would not need an invitation.
    “No, you don't have to invite him.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:05:48
  3. pick A 500-person initial guest list
    “The initial list is like 500 people.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:06:11
  4. pick Annie says nothing to her parents for three months in Italy, yet the in-laws knew
    “So she's in Italy for 3 months, falling in love with Brian.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:07:20
  5. pick No rehearsal dinner
    “Also, where was the rehearsal dinner?”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:09:12
  6. pick The couple leaves for the honeymoon the same night
    “This only happens in movies where people get married and then they immediately have to go on a plane to wherever the honeymoon is.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:10:31
  7. pick 14-year age gap between Annie and Matty
    “There's a 14 year age difference between Kimberly Williams and Kieran Culkin?”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:11:39
  8. pick Snow in LA that does not cancel the wedding and melts by night
    “It snows in LA in this movie, which is now you can make a case.”
    unknown · 1:12:31
  9. pick Fitting 200 guests in the house and tent
    “200 people in that house is you're really going to be crammed.”
    unknown · 1:14:20

Remade as a Netflix Show · Whether and how the movie could be remade today.

  1. pick A 10-episode Netflix remake with Martin and Keaton as grandparents
    “Could this be remade as a 10 episode Netflix show?”
    Bill Simmons · 1:14:58
  2. pick The same remake: Resisted at first, then agreed in under 90 seconds.
    “All right, I'm talked into it, fine.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:16:09

Unanswerable questions · Open questions about the movie.

  1. pick How much the wedding cost: between $60,000 and $90,000 in 1991 dollars
    “So we'll say somewhere between like 60,000 and 90,000.”
    unknown · 1:18:27
  2. pick A show would be called Grandfather of the Bride
    “Grandfather of the bride.”
    unknown · 1:18:56
  3. pick Father of the Bride as the best Steve Martin movie: Her sentimental favorite.
    “But it's, it's my sentimental favorite for sure, and it's such a sentimental favorite that it's hard for me to detach from it.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:13
  4. pick Father of the Bride as the best Steve Martin movie: Considered The Jerk, Roxanne and Parenthood, and lands on this one.
    “I think it's this.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:20:15
  5. pick Annie was a bad daughter as Annie Banks: Never told her parents, ignored her dad at the wedding, left without a goodbye.
    “Are we sure Annie was a good daughter?”
    Bill Simmons · 1:20:26
  6. pick Annie was inexperienced, not bad as Annie Banks: Defends her: great movie moment, and she's only 22.
    “My defenses are, number one, again, great movie moment.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:22:03

Memorabilia · A prop or piece of the movie they would own.

  1. pick The front of the house
    “I just want the front of the house.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:24:27
  2. pick The cappuccino maker
    “I would take the cappuccino maker.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:25:22
  3. pick The bedazzled wedding sneakers
    “I would take the sneakers.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:25:30

Roger Ebert's Review · The hosts read Roger Ebert's review.

  1. pick Father of the Bride: Three stars; Bill hoped for 3.5.
    “Kind of was kind of hoping for 3.5 , but he did say, uh, one of the movies with a lot of smiles and laughter in it and a good feeling.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:23:49

Who Won the Movie · Who came out of the movie best.

  1. winner Steve Martin
    “I think it has to be Steve Martin.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:25:52
  2. nominee Nancy Meyers: A case since it all comes together here, but more so later.
    “You could make a case for Nancy Myers because this is when it all comes together, but it comes together more for her later on.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:25:54

Who talked about it

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The Rewatchables

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Father of the Bride: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (remake): Father of the Bride ⇒ Father of the Bride (the host's read). The 1991 film remakes the Spencer Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor original, and the duo argue the remake anxiety has faded with time.
    “there is obviously the original with Spencer Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor, but fine.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:02:04 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Parenthood: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. verdict (best-Martin-movie rival): Parenthood ⇒ Father of the Bride (the host's read). Some would pick Parenthood as his best because it tried this type of movie first and spun off into a TV show.
    “Some people might say parenthood actually, because it's the 1st type of movie that tried to do the stuff they did.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:51 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

Father of the Bride Part 3 (Netflix Zoom reunion): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (pandemic sequel): Father of the Bride ⇒ Father of the Bride Part 3 (Netflix Zoom reunion) (the host's read). The virtual Netflix reunion is called a low point of the pandemic.
    “The virtual Netflix sequel. I think was one of the low points of the pandemic.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:47:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)

Father of the Bride Part II: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (sequel): Father of the Bride ⇒ Father of the Bride Part II (the host's read). Dobbins is okay with Part II because it comments on weddings and pregnancy smartly and she likes the family; it made $76.6M on a $30M budget.
    “I'm okay with Father of the Bride too.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:46:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.90 sure it was them)

Four Weddings and a Funeral: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (genre influence): Father of the Bride ⇒ Four Weddings and a Funeral (the host's read). Father of the Bride starts the 90s wedding-movie explosion that includes Four Weddings, Wedding Planner and Wedding Singer.
    “This like really starts the 90s explosion of everything from 4 weddings and a funeral to wedding planner and wedding singer and you name it.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:03:26 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)

Connected to

Parenthood: 3 lines lineage ×2 verdict ×1

  1. lineage (dad-persona precursor): Father of the Bride → Parenthood. Martin had been doing family-friendly dad stuff before, in Parenthood, but this is where he nails it.
    “he had been doing some of this like family friendly dad stuff before parenthood, et cetera.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:08:43 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)

Rachel Getting Married: 3 lines contrast ×2 people ×1

  1. contrast (tonal opposite): Father of the Bride → Rachel Getting Married. Rachel Getting Married is the dysfunctional, intense wedding movie; Father of the Bride is the gentle one where everyone ends up loving each other.
    “the bizarre version of this is Rachel's getting married.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:09:23 · Bill Simmons (0.85 sure it was them)

Baby Boom: 2 lines lineage ×1 craft ×1

  1. lineage (creative lineage): Father of the Bride → Baby Boom. Baby Boom has some of the Meyers aesthetics (the Vermont kitchen), but Father of the Bride is where the full Nancy Meyers formula clicks in.
    “I think Father of the Bride is really where you see the Nancy Myers formula, just like clicking in the house, the kitchen, the skirt suits”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:19:21 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)

My Best Friend's Wedding: 2 lines theme ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. theme (shared wedding-movie trope): Father of the Bride → My Best Friend's Wedding. Both end with newlyweds leaving for the honeymoon immediately, which never happens in real life.
    “By the way, my best friend's wedding does it too.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:11:05 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)

Steve Martin: 2 lines unmapped ×1 career ×1

  1. career (career pivot): Father of the Bride → Steve Martin. The film cements Martin's shift from wild-and-crazy comic to America's dad and starts mainstream Steve Martin (Oscars host, etc.).
    “I don't think he like hosts the Oscars or does any of his sort of just kind of America's dad stuff without this movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:01:59 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)

Blade Runner: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (remake-distance analogy): Father of the Bride → Blade Runner. A 1991 remake of a 1950 film is like remaking Blade Runner now, 40 years on.
    “think about movies in 1982 now that that would be the 40 year mark where it would be like if they were remaking Blade Runner”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:08:22 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

Britt Leach: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Britt Leach → Father of the Bride. Gary's dad actor is the grocery store manager in Father of the Bride and in The Great Outdoors.
    “He's in, he has a scene in Father of the Bride when George Banks crashes out, as they say, at the hot dogs.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 1:18:45 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Diane Keaton: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Diane Keaton → Father of the Bride. Keaton is in her 1990s comedy zone here, as in Father of the Bride and First Wives Club.
    “is doing in like father of the bride and um, uh, 1st wives club and whatever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Hanging Up with Sonia Sarayia · 0:30:33 · Griffin Newman (0.35 sure it was them)

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (earlier edgier Martin): Father of the Bride → Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels and Three Amigos show a Martin edgier than the dad persona, like discovering your dad was cool in his 20s.
    “you go back and you see 3 of me, it goes, and you see dirty rotten scoundrels.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:14:32 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)

Father of the Bride: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (remake): Father of the Bride → Father of the Bride. The 1991 film remakes the Spencer Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor original, and the duo argue the remake anxiety has faded with time.
    “there is obviously the original with Spencer Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor, but fine.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:02:04 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Father of the Bride Part 3 (Netflix Zoom reunion): 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (pandemic sequel): Father of the Bride → Father of the Bride Part 3 (Netflix Zoom reunion). The virtual Netflix reunion is called a low point of the pandemic.
    “The virtual Netflix sequel. I think was one of the low points of the pandemic.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:47:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)

Father of the Bride Part II: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (sequel): Father of the Bride → Father of the Bride Part II. Dobbins is okay with Part II because it comments on weddings and pregnancy smartly and she likes the family; it made $76.6M on a $30M budget.
    “I'm okay with Father of the Bride too.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:46:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.90 sure it was them)

Four Weddings and a Funeral: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (genre influence): Father of the Bride → Four Weddings and a Funeral. Father of the Bride starts the 90s wedding-movie explosion that includes Four Weddings, Wedding Planner and Wedding Singer.
    “This like really starts the 90s explosion of everything from 4 weddings and a funeral to wedding planner and wedding singer and you name it.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:03:26 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)

George Clooney: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (casting what-if): George Clooney → Father of the Bride. Recasting Brian with 1991 Facts of Life-era Clooney would have made him more of a threat and pulled the focus.
    “I'm thinking Moet, Facts of Life, George Clooney, where it's like, he's still boyish.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:59:22 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

Goodfellas: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (narration that works): Father of the Bride → Goodfellas. Narration is usually a crutch, but it works in Goodfellas and here because the monologue is good and the narration lets George say what he cannot say.
    “Narration is usually a crutch and you really, like Goodfellas is a good example of like, narration totally worked.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:26:40 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

Indian Summer (Big Show ripoff, per speaker): 1 line people ×1

  1. people (actor follow-up): Father of the Bride → Indian Summer (Big Show ripoff, per speaker). Kimberly Williams's next notable role was Indian Summer, a Big Show ripoff, and she never broke out.
    “she was in Indian summer, which was one of the many terrible big show ripoffs.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:39:40 · Bill Simmons (0.85 sure it was them)

It's Complicated: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (recurring motif): Father of the Bride → It's Complicated. Everyone in Meyers movies is an architect: Annie here, and Steve Martin renovating Meryl Streep's kitchen in It's Complicated.
    “Steve Martin, later on, and it's complicated, also an architect, renovating Meryl Streep's house, specifically the kitchen, remember?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:21:04 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)

Nancy Meyers: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Nancy Meyers → Father of the Bride. Nancy Meyers is the goat of picking houses; Father of the Bride is the best to live in of all her houses.
    “she was the goat of picking house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:00:25 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)

Phoebe Cates: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (casting what-if): Phoebe Cates → Father of the Bride. Cates was offered Annie Banks but turned it down because she was pregnant.
    “Phoebe Cates. Offered the role of Annie Banks. had to turn it down because she was pregnant.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:53:56 · Bill Simmons (0.75 sure it was them)

Risky Business: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (remake-distance analogy): Father of the Bride → Risky Business. Remaking a film starring the biggest stars of 1982-83 would still have them hanging over it, as Elizabeth Taylor hung over the 1991 remake.
    “if you remade risky business, Tom Cruise would hang over that movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:25:08 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

Roxanne: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (best-Martin-movie rival): Roxanne → Father of the Bride. Roxanne was a massive movie that people feared he could not pull off, but this is still his best.
    “Roxanne was a massive movie. And was a movie that people were not were worried that he was going to pull it off and they did, and it's really good.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:38 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

Sex and the City: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (revival analogy): Father of the Bride → Sex and the City. Dobbins would watch a Father of the Bride series even if it betrays the original, like she watches the Sex and the City revival.
    “there's a new Sex in the City remake episode to watch, you know, even though it's like one of, it's, it's not really working”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:15:17 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)

Teen Wolf: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (basketball scene scale): Father of the Bride → Teen Wolf. Teen Wolf has the worst basketball scene ever; Father of the Bride's father-daughter scene rates about an eight against its one.
    “The worst, the worst basketball scene ever in a movie is in Teen Wolf.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:42:02 · Bill Simmons (0.90 sure it was them)

The Godfather: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (wedding movie exclusion / actor redemption): Father of the Bride → The Godfather. Simmons does not count The Godfather as a wedding movie, and says Keaton's performance here makes up for Kay Corleone.
    “I don't count the godfather as a wedding movie, even though the wedding is important.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:03:21 · Bill Simmons (0.90 sure it was them)

The Jerk: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (best-Martin-movie rival): The Jerk → Father of the Bride. The Jerk would have been the pick for a while but has not got the legs.
    “I think the jerk would have been there for a while, but I just don't think it's gotten the legs.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:32 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

The Parent Trap: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (same writer-director): Father of the Bride → The Parent Trap. Meyers directed Parent Trap after the split with Shyer; Dobbins calls it weirdly important and Lohan's double role one of the great kid performances.
    “It's one of the great kid actor performances ever.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:23:33 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

The War of the Roses: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The War of the Roses → Father of the Bride. Amanda ranks the Roses house outside her top 20 movie houses, beginning her list with the Father of the Bride house.
    “This is not even a top 20 movie house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:59:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)

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career (3)

  1. career (career): Britt Leach → Father of the Bride. Gary's dad actor is the grocery store manager in Father of the Bride and in The Great Outdoors.
    “He's in, he has a scene in Father of the Bride when George Banks crashes out, as they say, at the hot dogs.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 1:18:45 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. career (career pivot): Father of the Bride → Steve Martin. The film cements Martin's shift from wild-and-crazy comic to America's dad and starts mainstream Steve Martin (Oscars host, etc.).
    “I don't think he like hosts the Oscars or does any of his sort of just kind of America's dad stuff without this movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:01:59 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. career (career): Diane Keaton → Father of the Bride. Keaton is in her 1990s comedy zone here, as in Father of the Bride and First Wives Club.
    “is doing in like father of the bride and um, uh, 1st wives club and whatever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Hanging Up with Sonia Sarayia · 0:30:33 · Griffin Newman (0.35 sure it was them)

contrast (3)

  1. contrast (contrast): The War of the Roses → Father of the Bride. Amanda ranks the Roses house outside her top 20 movie houses, beginning her list with the Father of the Bride house.
    “This is not even a top 20 movie house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:59:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (tonal opposite): Father of the Bride → Rachel Getting Married. Rachel Getting Married is the dysfunctional, intense wedding movie; Father of the Bride is the gentle one where everyone ends up loving each other.
    “the bizarre version of this is Rachel's getting married.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:09:23 · Bill Simmons (0.85 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (tonal opposite): Father of the Bride → Rachel Getting Married. Apex pick: Father of the Bride is the happy wedding movie, not the one with complete dysfunction.
    “not Rachel's getting married where it's just complete dysfunction and people fucking in the basement.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:03:06 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

craft (2)

  1. craft (craft): Nancy Meyers → Father of the Bride. Nancy Meyers is the goat of picking houses; Father of the Bride is the best to live in of all her houses.
    “she was the goat of picking house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:00:25 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): Baby Boom → Father of the Bride. The house and kitchen look of Nancy Meyers movies starts in Baby Boom and clicks into place in Father of the Bride.
    “Baby Booms has some of the aesthetics, like the Vermont home that Diane Keaton moves to has a beautiful kitchen, but I think Father of the Bride is really where you see the Nancy Myers formula”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:19:21 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)

lineage (9)

  1. lineage (remake): Father of the Bride → Father of the Bride. The 1991 film remakes the Spencer Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor original, and the duo argue the remake anxiety has faded with time.
    “there is obviously the original with Spencer Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor, but fine.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:02:04 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (remake-distance analogy): Father of the Bride → Blade Runner. A 1991 remake of a 1950 film is like remaking Blade Runner now, 40 years on.
    “think about movies in 1982 now that that would be the 40 year mark where it would be like if they were remaking Blade Runner”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:08:22 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (dad-persona precursor): Father of the Bride → Parenthood. Martin had been doing family-friendly dad stuff before, in Parenthood, but this is where he nails it.
    “he had been doing some of this like family friendly dad stuff before parenthood, et cetera.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:08:43 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (creative lineage): Father of the Bride → Baby Boom. Baby Boom has some of the Meyers aesthetics (the Vermont kitchen), but Father of the Bride is where the full Nancy Meyers formula clicks in.
    “I think Father of the Bride is really where you see the Nancy Myers formula, just like clicking in the house, the kitchen, the skirt suits”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:19:21 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)
  5. lineage (remake-distance analogy): Father of the Bride → Risky Business. Remaking a film starring the biggest stars of 1982-83 would still have them hanging over it, as Elizabeth Taylor hung over the 1991 remake.
    “if you remade risky business, Tom Cruise would hang over that movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:25:08 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
  6. lineage (physical comedy callback): Parenthood → Father of the Bride. Parenthood's famous little league scene shows Martin's athleticism, used to argue he made a Father of the Bride trick shot himself.
    “Because you think about like the parenthood, the famous little league scene.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:42:54 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
  7. lineage (sequel): Father of the Bride → Father of the Bride Part II. Dobbins is okay with Part II because it comments on weddings and pregnancy smartly and she likes the family; it made $76.6M on a $30M budget.
    “I'm okay with Father of the Bride too.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:46:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.90 sure it was them)
  8. lineage (pandemic sequel): Father of the Bride → Father of the Bride Part 3 (Netflix Zoom reunion). The virtual Netflix reunion is called a low point of the pandemic.
    “The virtual Netflix sequel. I think was one of the low points of the pandemic.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:47:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
  9. lineage (genre influence): Father of the Bride → Four Weddings and a Funeral. Father of the Bride starts the 90s wedding-movie explosion that includes Four Weddings, Wedding Planner and Wedding Singer.
    “This like really starts the 90s explosion of everything from 4 weddings and a funeral to wedding planner and wedding singer and you name it.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:03:26 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)

people (4)

  1. people (dad performance): Father of the Bride → Rachel Getting Married. The dad in Rachel Getting Married, and the kitchen meltdown scene, is amazing but intense in the opposite way.
    “the dad is amazing in that movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:09:39 · Bill Simmons (0.85 sure it was them)
  2. people (same writer-director): Father of the Bride → The Parent Trap. Meyers directed Parent Trap after the split with Shyer; Dobbins calls it weirdly important and Lohan's double role one of the great kid performances.
    “It's one of the great kid actor performances ever.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:23:33 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. people (actor follow-up): Father of the Bride → Indian Summer (Big Show ripoff, per speaker). Kimberly Williams's next notable role was Indian Summer, a Big Show ripoff, and she never broke out.
    “she was in Indian summer, which was one of the many terrible big show ripoffs.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:39:40 · Bill Simmons (0.85 sure it was them)
  4. people (wedding movie exclusion / actor redemption): Father of the Bride → The Godfather. Simmons does not count The Godfather as a wedding movie, and says Keaton's performance here makes up for Kay Corleone.
    “I don't count the godfather as a wedding movie, even though the wedding is important.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:03:21 · Bill Simmons (0.90 sure it was them)

theme (3)

  1. theme (recurring motif): Father of the Bride → It's Complicated. Everyone in Meyers movies is an architect: Annie here, and Steve Martin renovating Meryl Streep's kitchen in It's Complicated.
    “Steve Martin, later on, and it's complicated, also an architect, renovating Meryl Streep's house, specifically the kitchen, remember?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:21:04 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)
  2. theme (shared wedding-movie trope): Father of the Bride → My Best Friend's Wedding. Both end with newlyweds leaving for the honeymoon immediately, which never happens in real life.
    “By the way, my best friend's wedding does it too.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:11:05 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. theme (revival analogy): Father of the Bride → Sex and the City. Dobbins would watch a Father of the Bride series even if it betrays the original, like she watches the Sex and the City revival.
    “there's a new Sex in the City remake episode to watch, you know, even though it's like one of, it's, it's not really working”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:15:17 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)

unmapped (5)

  1. unmapped (earlier edgier Martin): Father of the Bride → Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels and Three Amigos show a Martin edgier than the dad persona, like discovering your dad was cool in his 20s.
    “you go back and you see 3 of me, it goes, and you see dirty rotten scoundrels.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:14:32 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (narration that works): Father of the Bride → Goodfellas. Narration is usually a crutch, but it works in Goodfellas and here because the monologue is good and the narration lets George say what he cannot say.
    “Narration is usually a crutch and you really, like Goodfellas is a good example of like, narration totally worked.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:26:40 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (basketball scene scale): Father of the Bride → Teen Wolf. Teen Wolf has the worst basketball scene ever; Father of the Bride's father-daughter scene rates about an eight against its one.
    “The worst, the worst basketball scene ever in a movie is in Teen Wolf.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:42:02 · Bill Simmons (0.90 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (built around star): Father of the Bride → Steve Martin. Martin was cast before the screenplay was written; the movie was built around him.
    “Steve Martin cast before they wrote the screenplay.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:53:35 · Bill Simmons (0.75 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (ending alternative): Father of the Bride → My Best Friend's Wedding. A last-minute run back for a hug would echo My Best Friend's Wedding and The Graduate.
    “It's like sort of like a reverse to the graduate. Or my best friend's wedding when he pops up at the end”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:23:38 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

verdict (3)

  1. verdict (best-Martin-movie rival): The Jerk → Father of the Bride. The Jerk would have been the pick for a while but has not got the legs.
    “I think the jerk would have been there for a while, but I just don't think it's gotten the legs.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:32 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (best-Martin-movie rival): Roxanne → Father of the Bride. Roxanne was a massive movie that people feared he could not pull off, but this is still his best.
    “Roxanne was a massive movie. And was a movie that people were not were worried that he was going to pull it off and they did, and it's really good.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:38 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. verdict (best-Martin-movie rival): Parenthood → Father of the Bride. Some would pick Parenthood as his best because it tried this type of movie first and spun off into a TV show.
    “Some people might say parenthood actually, because it's the 1st type of movie that tried to do the stuff they did.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:51 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

what-if (2)

  1. what-if (casting what-if): Phoebe Cates → Father of the Bride. Cates was offered Annie Banks but turned it down because she was pregnant.
    “Phoebe Cates. Offered the role of Annie Banks. had to turn it down because she was pregnant.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:53:56 · Bill Simmons (0.75 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (casting what-if): George Clooney → Father of the Bride. Recasting Brian with 1991 Facts of Life-era Clooney would have made him more of a threat and pulled the focus.
    “I'm thinking Moet, Facts of Life, George Clooney, where it's like, he's still boyish.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:59:22 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Father of the Bride: The film's catchphrase-adjacent scene: the dad's opening monologue to camera. Dobbins hates talking to camera as a device but says it works here because the monologue is excellent, and it sets up voiceover narration that lets George say what he cannot say to the family.
    “It works in this one because the monologue's really good and he's really good in it.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:26:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Father of the Bride: Steve Martin's dinner list of consolations: Paul Simon tickets at the Forum, a Lakers game, and 'independent communications consultant' as code for unemployed. Dobbins used the line on her in-laws.
    “Independent communications consultant is still...”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:33:04 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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