Rudolph Valentino
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q188692: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.
Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Sherlock, Jr. (1924); Babylon (2022).
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Singin' in the Rain (1952): 5 lines
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craft (scene mirror) · through Babylon (2022), which they were tied to as silent-era star Pitt's Babylon character draws on:
Singin' in the Rain ⇒ Babylon (the host's read).
Babylon's walk-on bar scene mirrors the flashback that opens Singin' in the Rain, where Don Lockwood gets a walk-on.
“Um, Don Lockwood gets a walk on part in a bar in that like in that flashback to start the movie.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:48:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (homage) · through Babylon (2022), which they were tied to as silent-era star Pitt's Babylon character draws on:
Singin' in the Rain ⇒ Babylon (the host's read).
A speaker calls the sound-stage scene a direct Singin' in the Rain homage, 'on steroids times a 1000'.
“Again, like a very, very direct homage.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 1:13:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
theme (echo) · through Babylon (2022), which they were tied to as silent-era star Pitt's Babylon character draws on:
Singin' in the Rain ⇒ Babylon (the host's read).
The silent-to-sound struggle scene in Babylon echoes Singin' in the Rain, down to the actress who cannot find the microphone.
“And that is a huge echo of singing in the rain.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 1:14:54 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (scene mirror) · through Babylon (2022), which they were tied to as silent-era star Pitt's Babylon character draws on:
Singin' in the Rain ⇒ Babylon (the host's read).
A Babylon moment is said to echo Don and Kathy Selden from Singin' in the Rain.
“Also, echoes of Don and Kathy Selden.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 1:44:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (homage) · through Babylon (2022), which they were tied to as silent-era star Pitt's Babylon character draws on:
Singin' in the Rain ⇒ Babylon (the host's read).
The speaker says Babylon is deliberately built around Singin' in the Rain, with specific scenes mirrored on purpose.
“But it is so intentionally built around singing in the rain that I do think the mirroring of the specific scenes are intentional.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 2:51:30 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Houdini: 1 line
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unmapped (borrowed magic bits) · through Sherlock, Jr. (1924), which they were tied to as namesake of the Sheik:
Houdini ⇒ Sherlock, Jr. (the host's read).
The dream sequence let Keaton use vaudeville and Houdini-style magic bits in a movie grounded in reality.
“there were magic bits that he knew from vaudeville, from Houdini and other magicians”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Sherlock Jr. / The Navigator with James Urbaniak · 0:53:54 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
John Gilbert: 1 line
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unmapped (real-life basis) · through Babylon (2022), which they were tied to as silent-era star Pitt's Babylon character draws on:
John Gilbert ⇒ Babylon (the host's read).
Brad Pitt's character in Babylon is obviously based on John Gilbert.
“John Gilbert, who Brad Pitt's character in Babylon, is very obviously based on”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Sherlock Jr. / The Navigator with James Urbaniak · 2:09:22 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
La La Land (2016): 1 line
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craft (score reuse) · through Babylon (2022), which they were tied to as silent-era star Pitt's Babylon character draws on:
La La Land ⇒ Babylon (the host's read).
The Babylon score is said to reappropriate music from La La Land's dream ballet.
“This is like very much from the dream ballet of La Land, this music and the score.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:57:59 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Merton of the Movies (stage play): 1 line
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lineage (possible source) · through Sherlock, Jr. (1924), which they were tied to as namesake of the Sheik:
Merton of the Movies (stage play) ⇒ Sherlock, Jr. (the host's read).
Keaton had seen a satiric play that may have given him the idea of a story set around a movie theater.
“there's a satiric play apparently called Merton of the movies.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Sherlock Jr. / The Navigator with James Urbaniak · 0:53:06 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Rudolph Valentino: 1 line, within their own work
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unmapped (namesake) · through Sherlock, Jr. (1924), which they were tied to as namesake of the Sheik:
Rudolph Valentino ⇒ Sherlock, Jr. (the host's read).
The villain is called the Sheik after Valentino.
“the sheik's so named because a la Rudolph Valentino.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Sherlock Jr. / The Navigator with James Urbaniak · 1:07:31 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
The Dancing Cavalier (film-within-Singin' in the Rain; heard also as 'link cavalier'): 1 line
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craft (scene mirror) · through Babylon (2022), which they were tied to as silent-era star Pitt's Babylon character draws on:
The Dancing Cavalier (film-within-Singin' in the Rain; heard also as 'link cavalier') ⇒ Babylon (the host's read).
The audience in Babylon's screening laughs at the same dialogue ('I love you') as in Singin' in the Rain's screening of The Dancing Cavalier.
“They're literally laughing at the exact same dialogue in the screening that they do of the link cavalier.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 1:56:30 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021): 1 line
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lineage (series lineage) · through Babylon (2022), which they were tied to as silent-era star Pitt's Babylon character draws on:
Zack Snyder's Justice League ⇒ Babylon (the maker said so: the hosts' own account of the show).
The Snyder Cut watch-along, born of a lost bet, started the show's watch-along concept that led to this one.
“The Snyder, the Snyder Cut thing was a bet that we lost, that Sean was like, if that, that's how the watch along concept started.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 3:06:12 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Brad Pitt: 1 line
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theme (character model) · them, directly:
Rudolph Valentino ⇒ Brad Pitt (the host's read).
Valentino is named as the other big influence on the writing of Pitt's character.
“Yeah, so I think Rudolph Valentino is the other one that is was a big influence on the writing of this character.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:14:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Sherlock, Jr. (1924): 1 line, within their own work
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unmapped (namesake) · them, directly:
Rudolph Valentino ⇒ Sherlock, Jr. (the host's read).
The villain is called the Sheik after Valentino.
“the sheik's so named because a la Rudolph Valentino.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Sherlock Jr. / The Navigator with James Urbaniak · 1:07:31 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
What's Up, Doc? (1972): 1 line
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lineage (homage) · through Sherlock, Jr. (1924), which they were tied to as namesake of the Sheik:
Sherlock, Jr. ⇒ What's Up, Doc? (the host's read).
The Chinese-dragon bicycle chase in What's Up, Doc? is a complete homage to the stag-party sequence.
“The bicycled Chinese dragon sequence and what's up dog is complete homage to this sequence.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Sherlock Jr. / The Navigator with James Urbaniak · 1:38:39 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Other (2) everyone in other
- namesake of the Sheik, Sherlock, Jr. (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Sherlock Jr. / The Navigator with James Urbaniak)
- silent-era star Pitt's Babylon character draws on, Babylon (The Big Picture, The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along)
What was said about them, by kind
theme (1)
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theme (character model):
Brad Pitt → Rudolph Valentino.
Valentino is named as the other big influence on the writing of Pitt's character.
“Yeah, so I think Rudolph Valentino is the other one that is was a big influence on the writing of this character.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:14:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
unmapped (1)
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unmapped (namesake):
Sherlock, Jr. → Rudolph Valentino.
The villain is called the Sheik after Valentino.
“the sheik's so named because a la Rudolph Valentino.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Sherlock Jr. / The Navigator with James Urbaniak · 1:07:31 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
None.