Singin' in the Rain (1952)

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Wikidata Q309153, film, IMDb tt0045152, TMDB 872: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Gene Kelly as star (Don Lockwood) (The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along); 2 more episodes agree.

What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.

Who talked about it

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Clara Bow: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. theme (character model): Clara Bow ⇒ Singin' in the Rain (the host's read). A speaker says part of the Lena Lamont / Clara Bow type of brassy outsider star is historically real, and Nellie fits it.
    “Well, I think like a little bit of the Lena Lamont Clara Beau stuff is real.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:56:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

Babylon: 5 lines the host's read ×5

  1. craft (scene mirror): Singin' in the Rain ⇒ Babylon (the host's read). Babylon's walk-on bar scene mirrors the flashback that opens Singin' in the Rain, where Don Lockwood gets a walk-on.
    “Um, Don Lockwood gets a walk on part in a bar in that like in that flashback to start the movie.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:48:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

Downton Abbey: A New Era: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. theme (plot borrowing): Singin' in the Rain ⇒ Downton Abbey: A New Era (the host's read). The Downton film's film-within-a-film plot, with Lady Mary dubbing a silent star, is a pure crib from Singin' in the Rain.
    “it's just pure crib from singing in the rain, but it starts as a silent film and then, you know, they go to see uh, the jazz singer”
    The Big Picture · The 2022 Movie Draft · 0:55:28 · Amanda Dobbins (0.90 sure it was them)

The Player: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Singin' in the Rain ⇒ The Player (the host's read). Sean says movies about movies go back long before The Player, e.g. Singin' in the Rain, but this one is far more inside the joke.
    “Going back to singing in the rain.”
    The Rewatchables · 'The Player' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Wesley Morris · 0:04:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Connected to

Babylon: 5 lines craft ×2 lineage ×2 theme ×1

  1. craft (scene mirror): Babylon → Singin' in the Rain. Babylon's walk-on bar scene mirrors the flashback that opens Singin' in the Rain, where Don Lockwood gets a walk-on.
    “Um, Don Lockwood gets a walk on part in a bar in that like in that flashback to start the movie.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:48:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

Frances Ha: 2 lines theme ×1 verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Singin' in the Rain → Frances Ha. Speaker judges these movies by whether they involuntarily smile at the screen.
    “At some point, I judge these movies by like, do I just involuntarily smile at the screen.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife,’ ‘Tick, Tick ... Boom!,' and Our Top Five Feel-Good Movies · 0:54:19 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)

Clara Bow: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (character model): Clara Bow → Singin' in the Rain. A speaker says part of the Lena Lamont / Clara Bow type of brassy outsider star is historically real, and Nellie fits it.
    “Well, I think like a little bit of the Lena Lamont Clara Beau stuff is real.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:56:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Downton Abbey: A New Era: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (plot borrowing): Downton Abbey: A New Era → Singin' in the Rain. The Downton film's film-within-a-film plot, with Lady Mary dubbing a silent star, is a pure crib from Singin' in the Rain.
    “it's just pure crib from singing in the rain, but it starts as a silent film and then, you know, they go to see uh, the jazz singer”
    The Big Picture · The 2022 Movie Draft · 0:55:28 · Amanda Dobbins (0.90 sure it was them)

Malcolm McDowell: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (improvised use): Malcolm McDowell → Singin' in the Rain. McDowell says he began singing the song when Kubrick asked if he could dance, and Kubrick bought the rights at once.
    “And so I began to sing a singing in the rain, and Stanley burst out laughing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:35:37 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Player: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Player → Singin' in the Rain. Sean says movies about movies go back long before The Player, e.g. Singin' in the Rain, but this one is far more inside the joke.
    “Going back to singing in the rain.”
    The Rewatchables · 'The Player' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Wesley Morris · 0:04:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

craft (2)

  1. craft (scene mirror): Babylon → Singin' in the Rain. Babylon's walk-on bar scene mirrors the flashback that opens Singin' in the Rain, where Don Lockwood gets a walk-on.
    “Um, Don Lockwood gets a walk on part in a bar in that like in that flashback to start the movie.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:48:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. craft (scene mirror): Babylon → Singin' in the Rain. A Babylon moment is said to echo Don and Kathy Selden from Singin' in the Rain.
    “Also, echoes of Don and Kathy Selden.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 1:44:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

lineage (3)

  1. lineage (lineage): The Player → Singin' in the Rain. Sean says movies about movies go back long before The Player, e.g. Singin' in the Rain, but this one is far more inside the joke.
    “Going back to singing in the rain.”
    The Rewatchables · 'The Player' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Wesley Morris · 0:04:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (homage): Babylon → Singin' in the Rain. A speaker calls the sound-stage scene a direct Singin' in the Rain homage, 'on steroids times a 1000'.
    “Again, like a very, very direct homage.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 1:13:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (homage): Babylon → Singin' in the Rain. The speaker says Babylon is deliberately built around Singin' in the Rain, with specific scenes mirrored on purpose.
    “But it is so intentionally built around singing in the rain that I do think the mirroring of the specific scenes are intentional.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 2:51:30 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

theme (4)

  1. theme (plot borrowing): Downton Abbey: A New Era → Singin' in the Rain. The Downton film's film-within-a-film plot, with Lady Mary dubbing a silent star, is a pure crib from Singin' in the Rain.
    “it's just pure crib from singing in the rain, but it starts as a silent film and then, you know, they go to see uh, the jazz singer”
    The Big Picture · The 2022 Movie Draft · 0:55:28 · Amanda Dobbins (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. theme (character model): Clara Bow → Singin' in the Rain. A speaker says part of the Lena Lamont / Clara Bow type of brassy outsider star is historically real, and Nellie fits it.
    “Well, I think like a little bit of the Lena Lamont Clara Beau stuff is real.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:56:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. theme (echo): Babylon → Singin' in the Rain. The silent-to-sound struggle scene in Babylon echoes Singin' in the Rain, down to the actress who cannot find the microphone.
    “And that is a huge echo of singing in the rain.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 1:14:54 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. theme (theme): Frances Ha → Singin' in the Rain. Both are listed as feel-good picks about movement and joy: the pirouette to Modern Love versus dancing.
    “the scene of Greta Gerwig pirouetting down to modern love”
    The Big Picture · ‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife,’ ‘Tick, Tick ... Boom!,' and Our Top Five Feel-Good Movies · 0:52:14 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (1)

  1. unmapped (improvised use): Malcolm McDowell → Singin' in the Rain. McDowell says he began singing the song when Kubrick asked if he could dance, and Kubrick bought the rights at once.
    “And so I began to sing a singing in the rain, and Stanley burst out laughing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:35:37 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

verdict (1)

  1. verdict (verdict): Singin' in the Rain → Frances Ha. Speaker judges these movies by whether they involuntarily smile at the screen.
    “At some point, I judge these movies by like, do I just involuntarily smile at the screen.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife,’ ‘Tick, Tick ... Boom!,' and Our Top Five Feel-Good Movies · 0:54:19 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Singin' in the Rain: Makeup trivia: 1920s-30s screen stars look otherworldly because of heavy pancake, blush and lipstick, as with Al Jolson in The Jazz Singer.
    “I think that's important because when you look at images of screen stars from that time, and they look otherworldly because they're wearing so much pancake and so much blush and so much, so much lipstick.”
    The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 1:39:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Singin' in the Rain: Speaker saved it for the night before surgery as medicine.
    “I had surgery last year.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife,’ ‘Tick, Tick ... Boom!,' and Our Top Five Feel-Good Movies · 0:54:35 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Singin' in the Rain: McDowell says the song was his idea in the writer's-house scene; Kubrick phoned New York and bought the rights at once.
    “He went to Bournwood Studio, telephoned New York, and purchased the rights to the music immediately.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:35:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.