Stan Winston
Made films the shows talk about.
Counted as craft. The films the hosts said they worked on, which the two lists below run through too: Starman (1984); Jurassic Park (1993).
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
It Happened One Night (1934): 2 lines
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craft (genre / structure) · through Starman (1984), which they worked on as visual effects:
It Happened One Night ⇒ Starman (the host's read).
Carpenter wanted a road movie of two people in a car getting to know each other, in the mold of It Happened One Night.
“I want to make it happens one night.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 1:22:08 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (homage) · through Starman (1984), which they worked on as visual effects:
It Happened One Night ⇒ Starman (the host's read).
The hay-bale love scene in an empty train car is called a likely conscious homage to It Happened One Night.
“So it's a, maybe it's an homage.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 1:27:07 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Alien Resurrection (1997): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Jurassic Park (1993), which they worked on as practical effects:
Alien Resurrection ⇒ Jurassic Park (the host's read).
Aliens caged and taunted while hunting you feels like the raptors; raptors may be Alien rip-offs.
“the raptors have a bit of an alien rip off vibe, honestly”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:46:01 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
An American Werewolf in London (1981): 1 line
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lineage (effects lineage) · through Starman (1984), which they worked on as visual effects:
An American Werewolf in London ⇒ Starman (the host's read).
The transformation sequence is indebted to American Werewolf's practical, show-it-all body effects.
“Yes, which is very like American werewolf in London, where the body is stretching out.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 1:20:41 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982): 1 line
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industry (studio rivalry / shadow) · through Starman (1984), which they worked on as visual effects:
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial ⇒ Starman (the host's read).
Columbia chose Starman over Night Skies, which Universal turned into E.T., so Starman carried the stigma of the one that got away and then looked like a ripoff.
“Uh, so they let go of night skies and let Universal acquire and turnaround.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 0:24:25 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Michael Crichton: 1 line
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unmapped (adapted) · through Jurassic Park (1993), which they worked on as practical effects:
Michael Crichton ⇒ Jurassic Park (the host's read).
Named among the Crichton adaptations they could do another time.
“we would not do Jurassic Park”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:18:30 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Two for the Road (1967): 1 line
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craft (genre / structure) · through Starman (1984), which they worked on as visual effects:
Two for the Road ⇒ Starman (the host's read).
Carpenter reportedly wanted to make something like Two for the Road.
“I want to make like 2 for the road.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 1:22:06 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001): 1 line
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unmapped (technology showed it was possible) · through Jurassic Park (1993), which they worked on as practical effects:
Jurassic Park ⇒ A.I. Artificial Intelligence (the host's read).
The speaker says Kubrick, who first asked Spielberg to build a robot, saw Jurassic Park and reconsidered.
“And then he sees Jurassic Park and he's once again like, well, wait a second.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 0:31:56 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Anaconda (1997): 1 line
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lineage (ripple effect) · through Jurassic Park (1993), which they worked on as practical effects:
Jurassic Park ⇒ Anaconda (the host's read).
Anaconda is called the final lapping of the Jurassic Park creature-feature wave.
“that's like the final lapping of the Jurassic Park ripple, sort of washing up on the beach.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:37:19 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Forrest Gump (1994): 1 line
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people (performance lineage) · through Starman (1984), which they worked on as visual effects:
Starman ⇒ Forrest Gump (the host's read).
Bridges' hat, check shirt, strange speech and not-quite-a-person quality read as a proto-Forrest Gump.
“there's like a proto-Forrest Gump vibe in this performance in the hat and in the check shirt”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 1:57:23 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
John from Cincinnati (2007): 1 line
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theme (premise) · through Starman (1984), which they worked on as visual effects:
Starman ⇒ John from Cincinnati (the host's read).
A mysterious odd visitor who solves everyone's problems and parrots dialogue; John from Cincinnati owes a lot to Starman.
“He comes and visits, and he's mysterious, and he's weird, and he solves everybody's problem.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 2:11:38 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Jurassic World (2015): 1 line
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unmapped (misreading) · through Jurassic Park (1993), which they worked on as practical effects:
Jurassic Park ⇒ Jurassic World (the host's read).
Spielberg's line that the T-Rex is the hero of Jurassic Park was taken too literally by Trevorrow in Jurassic World.
“Which Colin Trevor took way too literally in making Jurassic World.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:08:10 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Jurassic Park (1993), which they worked on as practical effects:
Jurassic Park ⇒ Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (the host's read).
The sequels are a spinoff of Spielberg's imagination though he only executive produces them.
“even though he's just an executive producer on those movies, it is this interesting spinoff of his imagination.”
The Big Picture · Steven Spielberg's Top 5 Movies With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan | The Big Picture (Ep. 57) · 0:08:07 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)
Midnight Special (2016): 1 line
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verdict (same story, better version) · through Starman (1984), which they worked on as visual effects:
Starman ⇒ Midnight Special (the host's read).
Midnight Special is called Spielbergian but really Starman-like; its Adam Driver agent does the benevolent-government-agent role better than Starman's.
“I'm like, God, that's so Starman.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 2:02:29 · Katey Rich (0.45 sure it was them)
Sean Levy: 1 line
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lineage (remake plan) · through Starman (1984), which they worked on as visual effects:
Starman ⇒ Sean Levy (the host's read).
Levy announced a 2016 remake with Michael Douglas on board.
“I learned from Wikipedia that in 2016, Sean Levy was planning to direct and produce a remake of Starman.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 2:13:16 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Starman (1986): 1 line
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lineage (sequel / spin-off) · through Starman (1984), which they worked on as visual effects:
Starman ⇒ Starman (the host's read).
The 1986 show is set 15 years later, about his son, with a recast Starman.
“is set 15 years in the future because it's about his son.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 2:08:52 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997): 1 line
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lineage (sequel-comparison) · through Jurassic Park (1993), which they worked on as practical effects:
Jurassic Park ⇒ The Lost World: Jurassic Park (the host's read).
The hosts judge the sequel as normalizing the dinosaurs too fast and dropping the wonder-before-terror structure of the original.
“This movie normalizes the dinosaurs way too much.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:03:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Twister (1996): 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Jurassic Park (1993), which they worked on as practical effects:
Jurassic Park ⇒ Twister (the host's read).
Marketing a disaster around unknown leads follows Jurassic Park, where Sam Neill and Laura Dern were known but not famous.
“coming off of Jurassic Park where it was like Sam Neil and Laura Dern were like well-known, but not famous.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:53:21 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Craft (3) everyone in craft
- visual effects, Starman (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Starman with Katey Rich)
- practical effects, Jurassic Park (The Big Picture, Steven Spielberg's Top 5 Movies With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan | The Big Picture (Ep. 57))
- effects, Oscar winner, Jurassic Park (Blank Check — Patreon, The Nightmare Before Christmas with Michael Rianda (Ad-Free))
What was said about them, by kind
craft (1)
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craft (craft):
Jurassic Park → Stan Winston.
Jurassic Park fuses a new standard of CGI with incredible practical effects.
“it set a new standard for what computer generated graphics could be in a film, and it also has incredible practical special effects.”
The Big Picture · Steven Spielberg's Top 5 Movies With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan | The Big Picture (Ep. 57) · 0:25:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
people (2)
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people (people):
Stan Winston → Rick Baker.
Winston, Baker and Dick Smith, the three effects names in the Starman credits, are called the three wise men of 80s visual effects.
“it's like the 3 like wise men of visual effects of the 80s.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 1:21:06 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Jurassic Park → Stan Winston.
Winston is named as one of the Jurassic Park effects Oscar winners that beat Nightmare.
“the winners for that Oscar are Dennis Muir and Phil Tippett and Stan Winston.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas with Michael Rianda (Ad-Free) · 2:22:52 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
None.