The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997)

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Wikidata Q200873, film, IMDb tt0119567, TMDB 330: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title; 4 more episodes agree.

What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.

In the store as #132, The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997).

Who talked about it

Blank Check with Griffin & David

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Godzilla: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (intent): Godzilla ⇒ The Lost World: Jurassic Park (the host's read). A host suggests Spielberg wanted to make a Godzilla-style fun monster movie, which explains the San Diego ending.
    “I've always wanted to make like a Godzilla movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:26:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Jurassic Park: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (sequel-comparison): Jurassic Park ⇒ The Lost World: Jurassic Park (the host's read). The hosts judge the sequel as normalizing the dinosaurs too fast and dropping the wonder-before-terror structure of the original.
    “This movie normalizes the dinosaurs way too much.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:03:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

King Kong: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. theme (plot trope): King Kong ⇒ The Lost World: Jurassic Park (the host's read). The T-Rex escaping a boat into a city is called a predictable King Kong move.
    “We've all seen King Kong.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:24:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Lost World: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (homage): The Lost World ⇒ The Lost World: Jurassic Park (the host's read). Crichton's sequel novel pays homage to Doyle's 1912 Lost World about an island of dinosaurs.
    “the novelist has also decided to sort of pay homage to Arthur Conan Doyle's 1912 or whatever book, The Lost World.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

Godzilla: 2 lines unmapped ×2

  1. unmapped (viewing memory): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → Godzilla. As a child, the speaker saw this, Godzilla and Batman & Robin without seeing the originals and loved the worse versions.
    “I was getting the shittier version of the one that everyone liked, but because I was so unexposed to it, I was like, this is great.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:06:23 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Addicted to Love: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (counterprogramming): Addicted to Love → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. The romantic comedy opened against Lost World as classic counterprogramming but did not work.
    “Number 2 is a classic example of counterprogramming.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:28:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Alien Resurrection: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Alien Resurrection → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Resurrection came out the same year as The Lost World, with Independence Day in the mix.
    “This comes out the same year as Lost World.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:45:51 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them)

Amistad: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (double-release strategy): Amistad → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. In 1997 Spielberg tried to repeat his 1993 pairing of a blockbuster and a prestige Oscar film.
    “I'll give you your Blockbuster and your serious Oscar movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:11:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Flesh and Blood: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Flesh and Blood → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Flesh+Blood is a tweener or bridge between two phases of the director's career, as Lost World was for Spielberg.
    “It's sort of a tweener.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Flesh+Blood · 0:08:18 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Hannibal: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (sequel-novel pattern): Hannibal → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Like Crichton's Lost World, Harris wrote Hannibal under pressure from a studio wanting a sequel to a hit film adaptation.
    “another example of this is Thomas Harris with Hannibal, whichever wants to make a Sansa Lamb sequel.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:26:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Jeff Goldblum: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Jeff Goldblum → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. The Lost World shows why that second-lead model fails when he becomes the lead.
    “And that's why Lost World is not a great idea.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:22:33 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

John Williams: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → John Williams. A host credits Williams for holding back his main Jurassic Park theme in the score until the end credits.
    “Williams, to his credit, does not use his theme until the credits.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:52:24 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Jurassic Park: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (sequel-comparison): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → Jurassic Park. The hosts judge the sequel as normalizing the dinosaurs too fast and dropping the wonder-before-terror structure of the original.
    “This movie normalizes the dinosaurs way too much.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:03:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Jurassic Park III: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (quality ranking): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → Jurassic Park III. A host prefers Jurassic Park III because it is shorter, lacks the Spielberg ambition, and acts like a fun monster movie.
    “Jurassic Park 3 benefits from, it doesn't have the Spielberg touch, right?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:30:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Jurassic World: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (shared flaw): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → Jurassic World. Both sequels equate dinosaurs with animals and make zoo-and-animal-rights metaphors that the hosts say do not work.
    “the movie is not equating dinosaurs to animals, which is the thing that this movie and Jurassic World both do.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:25:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

King Kong: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (plot trope): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → King Kong. The T-Rex escaping a boat into a city is called a predictable King Kong move.
    “We've all seen King Kong.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:24:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Pete Postlethwaite: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (only arc): Pete Postlethwaite → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Tembo's turn from hunter to awed protector is the only character arc in the film and suggests the poachers' viewpoint as a better sequel angle.
    “If this movie has any arc at all. it's his”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:59:12 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Pocahontas: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (merchandise-driven scenes): Pocahontas → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. The Miko hair-braiding scene stands as a model for toy-company demands that also shaped the vehicle-heavy Lost World.
    “toy company executives met with the filmmakers.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:21:11 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Fifth Element: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (box office neighbor): The Fifth Element → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. The Fifth Element was the previous week's number one and fell only thirty percent, grossing about 63 million total.
    “So number 3 was number one the week before.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:29:29 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Lost World: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (homage): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → The Lost World. Crichton's sequel novel pays homage to Doyle's 1912 Lost World about an island of dinosaurs.
    “the novelist has also decided to sort of pay homage to Arthur Conan Doyle's 1912 or whatever book, The Lost World.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Pink Panther: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (structural analogy): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → The Pink Panther. The sequel feels like deleted scenes from the first film with wraparound Goldblum footage, like the Pink Panther movie built from cut scenes after Peter Sellers died.
    “this just feels like deleted scenes from the 1st Jurassic Park with some wraparound footage of Goldberg.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:38:20 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Titanic: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (year ranking): Titanic → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Lost World was not the top film of 1997 because Titanic beat it, and Men in Black outgrossed it too.
    “it was, of course, not the biggest movie of 19797 because Titanic was the biggest part.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:34:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

craft (3)

  1. craft (structural analogy): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → The Pink Panther. The sequel feels like deleted scenes from the first film with wraparound Goldblum footage, like the Pink Panther movie built from cut scenes after Peter Sellers died.
    “this just feels like deleted scenes from the 1st Jurassic Park with some wraparound footage of Goldberg.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:38:20 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → John Williams. A host credits Williams for holding back his main Jurassic Park theme in the score until the end credits.
    “Williams, to his credit, does not use his theme until the credits.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:52:24 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. craft (craft): Jeff Goldblum → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. The Lost World shows why that second-lead model fails when he becomes the lead.
    “And that's why Lost World is not a great idea.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:22:33 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

industry (4)

  1. industry (industry): Flesh and Blood → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Flesh+Blood is a tweener or bridge between two phases of the director's career, as Lost World was for Spielberg.
    “It's sort of a tweener.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Flesh+Blood · 0:08:18 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. industry (double-release strategy): Amistad → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. In 1997 Spielberg tried to repeat his 1993 pairing of a blockbuster and a prestige Oscar film.
    “I'll give you your Blockbuster and your serious Oscar movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:11:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. industry (box office neighbor): The Fifth Element → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. The Fifth Element was the previous week's number one and fell only thirty percent, grossing about 63 million total.
    “So number 3 was number one the week before.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:29:29 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. industry (industry): Alien Resurrection → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Resurrection came out the same year as The Lost World, with Independence Day in the mix.
    “This comes out the same year as Lost World.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:45:51 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them)

lineage (3)

  1. lineage (homage): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → The Lost World. Crichton's sequel novel pays homage to Doyle's 1912 Lost World about an island of dinosaurs.
    “the novelist has also decided to sort of pay homage to Arthur Conan Doyle's 1912 or whatever book, The Lost World.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (sequel-novel pattern): Hannibal → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Like Crichton's Lost World, Harris wrote Hannibal under pressure from a studio wanting a sequel to a hit film adaptation.
    “another example of this is Thomas Harris with Hannibal, whichever wants to make a Sansa Lamb sequel.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:26:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (sequel-comparison): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → Jurassic Park. The hosts judge the sequel as normalizing the dinosaurs too fast and dropping the wonder-before-terror structure of the original.
    “This movie normalizes the dinosaurs way too much.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:03:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

theme (1)

  1. theme (plot trope): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → King Kong. The T-Rex escaping a boat into a city is called a predictable King Kong move.
    “We've all seen King Kong.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:24:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

unmapped (6)

  1. unmapped (intent): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → Godzilla. A host suggests Spielberg wanted to make a Godzilla-style fun monster movie, which explains the San Diego ending.
    “I've always wanted to make like a Godzilla movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:26:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (only arc): Pete Postlethwaite → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Tembo's turn from hunter to awed protector is the only character arc in the film and suggests the poachers' viewpoint as a better sequel angle.
    “If this movie has any arc at all. it's his”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:59:12 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (viewing memory): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → Godzilla. As a child, the speaker saw this, Godzilla and Batman & Robin without seeing the originals and loved the worse versions.
    “I was getting the shittier version of the one that everyone liked, but because I was so unexposed to it, I was like, this is great.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:06:23 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (merchandise-driven scenes): Pocahontas → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. The Miko hair-braiding scene stands as a model for toy-company demands that also shaped the vehicle-heavy Lost World.
    “toy company executives met with the filmmakers.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:21:11 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (shared flaw): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → Jurassic World. Both sequels equate dinosaurs with animals and make zoo-and-animal-rights metaphors that the hosts say do not work.
    “the movie is not equating dinosaurs to animals, which is the thing that this movie and Jurassic World both do.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:25:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. unmapped (counterprogramming): Addicted to Love → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. The romantic comedy opened against Lost World as classic counterprogramming but did not work.
    “Number 2 is a classic example of counterprogramming.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:28:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

verdict (2)

  1. verdict (quality ranking): The Lost World: Jurassic Park → Jurassic Park III. A host prefers Jurassic Park III because it is shorter, lacks the Spielberg ambition, and acts like a fun monster movie.
    “Jurassic Park 3 benefits from, it doesn't have the Spielberg touch, right?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:30:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (year ranking): Titanic → The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Lost World was not the top film of 1997 because Titanic beat it, and Men in Black outgrossed it too.
    “it was, of course, not the biggest movie of 19797 because Titanic was the biggest part.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:34:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about The Lost World: Jurassic Park: The hosts pitch a five-minute version: Hammond tells Malcolm about the second island over lunch, Malcolm says never go there, the end.
    “Let's never go there.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:35:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about The Lost World: Jurassic Park: Island name joke: Isla Sorna is mocked as Sarcasm Island and contrasted with Isla Nublar meaning Island of Clouds.
    “Isla Sorna.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 0:41:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about The Lost World: Jurassic Park: The one family-resemblance joke: when the stowaway daughter appears, Vaughn asks Schiff about a resemblance and Schiff holds up a finger, a casual treatment of a biracial family the hosts love.
    “do you see a family resemblance?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:11:56 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about The Lost World: Jurassic Park: The gymnastics raptor scene is widely mocked, but one host cheered as a child and likes Goldblum's line about being kicked off the team.
    “I actually think the line, the Goldblum line, kicked you off the team is funny.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:12:40 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about The Lost World: Jurassic Park: Runtime and budget trivia: 129 minutes, longest of the original three; budget read aloud as 73 million after a 125 million guess; Amazon X-Ray claims fifty percent more dinosaur footage.
    “They said that this film has 50% more dinosaur footage than the original.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:15:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about The Lost World: Jurassic Park: Camper sequence praised: the sound of cracking glass does ninety percent of the work and music enters late.
    “The way Spielberg uses the cracking of the glass is like, that's doing 90% of the heavy lifting for you.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:18:14 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about The Lost World: Jurassic Park: The toy T-Rex came with a screaming man in a cage that you could feed to the dinosaur and poop out, a scene better than anything in the actual movie.
    “It'd be more fun to play with that and pretend that that happened in the movie than anything that actually happened in the goddamn movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:24:02 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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