Leonard Bernstein

Made films the shows talk about.

Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Tár (2022); Maestro (2023).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Guillermo del Toro: 1 line

  1. unmapped (technique learned from) · through Maestro (2023), which they were tied to as subject of the film: Guillermo del Toro ⇒ Maestro (the maker said so: a video with Guillermo del Toro). Cooper learned crane technique from del Toro and used it in the On the Town sequence.
    “executed magnificently in the on the town sequence in Maestro.”
    The Big Picture · Best Picture Power Rankings and a ‘Poor Things’ Deep Dive. Plus: Julianne Moore and Todd Haynes! · 0:17:17 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)

Ken Russell: 1 line

  1. lineage (spiritual forebear) · through Tár (2022), which they were tied to as doing the Mahler in the church (the Tar comparison): Ken Russell ⇒ Tár (the host's read). Russell's melodramatic operatic composer biopics like Mahler are a Tar precursor.
    “He made a lot of, um, uh, like melodramatic, stylish operatic recreations of composers lives, like Mahler.”
    The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:01 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Leonard Bernstein: 1 line, within their own work

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Tár (2022), which they were tied to as doing the Mahler in the church (the Tar comparison): Leonard Bernstein ⇒ Tár (the host's read). Tim asks whether the hosts joked that Tar was about Bernstein conducting Mahler in the church; Sean answers that it was inspired by his work.
    “Mad Tar must have been about Bernstein doing the Mahler in the church, right?”
    The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:20 · Tim Simons (0.60 sure it was them)

Mahler (1974): 1 line

  1. lineage (precursor) · through Tár (2022), which they were tied to as doing the Mahler in the church (the Tar comparison): Mahler ⇒ Tár (the host's read). Ken Russell's composer-life films like Mahler are a precursor to Tar.
    “It is kind of a tar precursor.”
    The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Tár (2022): 1 line, within their own work

  1. lineage (lineage) · them, directly: Leonard Bernstein ⇒ Tár (the host's read). Tim asks whether the hosts joked that Tar was about Bernstein conducting Mahler in the church; Sean answers that it was inspired by his work.
    “Mad Tar must have been about Bernstein doing the Mahler in the church, right?”
    The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:20 · Tim Simons (0.60 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Other (2) everyone in other

What was said about them, by kind

lineage (1)

  1. lineage (lineage): Leonard Bernstein → Tár. Tim asks whether the hosts joked that Tar was about Bernstein conducting Mahler in the church; Sean answers that it was inspired by his work.
    “Mad Tar must have been about Bernstein doing the Mahler in the church, right?”
    The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:20 · Tim Simons (0.60 sure it was them)

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