Tár (2022)
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Wikidata Q108649516, film, IMDb tt14444726, TMDB 817758: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Todd Field as director (Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons); 4 more episodes agree.
What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.
Who talked about it
The Big Picture
- Sean Fennessey: 7 lines in The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons
- Chris Ryan: 4 lines in The Top Five Movies of 2022
- Amanda Dobbins: 3 lines in The 2022 Movie Draft
- Adam Nayman: 2 lines in The Top Five Movies of 2022
- Tim Simons: 1 line in Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Ken Russell: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (spiritual forebear):
Ken Russell ⇒ Tár (the host's read).
Russell's melodramatic operatic composer biopics like Mahler are a Tar precursor.
“He made a lot of, um, uh, like melodramatic, stylish operatic recreations of composers lives, like Mahler.”
The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:01 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Leonard Bernstein: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (lineage):
Leonard Bernstein ⇒ Tár (the host's read).
Tim asks whether the hosts joked that Tar was about Bernstein conducting Mahler in the church; Sean answers that it was inspired by his work.
“Mad Tar must have been about Bernstein doing the Mahler in the church, right?”
The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:20 · Tim Simons (0.60 sure it was them)
Mahler: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (precursor):
Mahler ⇒ Tár (the host's read).
Ken Russell's composer-life films like Mahler are a precursor to Tar.
“It is kind of a tar precursor.”
The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
No line says another film or person drew on it.
Connected to
Phantom Thread: 2 lines theme ×2
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theme (comparison):
Tár → Phantom Thread.
Adam compares Tar to Phantom Thread as an unexpected discourse and meme movie driven by a naked, embarrassing performance.
“It is a meme monster movie. In a way that reminds me, in a way that reminds me actually more than anything, of something like Phantom Thread”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:19:08 · Adam Nayman (0.80 sure it was them)
Top Gun: Maverick: 2 lines unmapped ×1 verdict ×1
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unmapped (shared quality):
Tár → Top Gun: Maverick.
Amanda calls them her two favorites of the year, one for the spectacle of cinema and the other for going for it as capital-C cinema.
“I have 2 favorites of this year, Top Gun Maverick. For the spectacle of cinema and tar for just absolutely fucking going for it, capital C cinema.”
The Big Picture · The 2022 Movie Draft · 0:35:06 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)
Avatar: The Way of Water: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (industry):
Avatar: The Way of Water → Tár.
Way of Water's one vague teaser is compared to Tár's teaser campaign.
“This movie has the same marketing campaign as Tar.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:30:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
Daniel Day-Lewis: 1 line people ×1
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people (performance comparison):
Tár → Daniel Day-Lewis.
Chris says watching Blanchett is like watching a Daniel Day-Lewis movie, something you need front row seats for.
“This is like when you're watching a Daniel Day-Lewis movie.”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:00:13 · Chris Ryan (0.85 sure it was them)
Ken Russell: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (spiritual forebear):
Ken Russell → Tár.
Russell's melodramatic operatic composer biopics like Mahler are a Tar precursor.
“He made a lot of, um, uh, like melodramatic, stylish operatic recreations of composers lives, like Mahler.”
The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:01 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Leonard Bernstein: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (lineage):
Leonard Bernstein → Tár.
Tim asks whether the hosts joked that Tar was about Bernstein conducting Mahler in the church; Sean answers that it was inspired by his work.
“Mad Tar must have been about Bernstein doing the Mahler in the church, right?”
The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:20 · Tim Simons (0.60 sure it was them)
Lincoln: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (comparison):
Tár → Lincoln.
Chris contrasts Blanchett's level of performance with a Lincoln-style historically resonant part, as a box-office draw for older audiences.
“I guess it's not Lincoln where she's like doing this historically like sort of resonant part, but it's in that kind of level of performance”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:16:11 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Mahler: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (precursor):
Mahler → Tár.
Ken Russell's composer-life films like Mahler are a precursor to Tar.
“It is kind of a tar precursor.”
The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Nope: 1 line verdict ×1
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verdict (ranking):
Tár → Nope.
Chris puts Tar at three and Banshees at two; Adam has Nope at three; the four lists overlap on Tar (Chris 3, Amanda 2, Sean 2) and on Nope (Adam 3, Sean 1).
“Number 3 is for me is tar.”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:00:01 · Chris Ryan (0.85 sure it was them)
Stanley Kubrick: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (style comparison):
Tár → Stanley Kubrick.
Sean says Tar is perceived as having Kubrickian coldness, which makes it less inviting at the box office.
“it at least is perceived as having that Kubrickian coldness, which I think is not very inviting as a movie going experience.”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:16:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- passing in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild, first at 2:09:23, 1 time
- recommended in The Big Picture · The 2022 Movie Draft, first at 0:20:47, 10 times
- passing in The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along, first at 2:36:16, 1 time
- compared in The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons, first at 1:12:13, 2 times
- recommended in The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022, first at 0:25:33, 16 times
- passing in The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims, first at 0:02:45, 6 times
- anecdote in Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free), first at 1:25:16, 6 times
What was said about it, by kind
craft (1)
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craft (style comparison):
Tár → Stanley Kubrick.
Sean says Tar is perceived as having Kubrickian coldness, which makes it less inviting at the box office.
“it at least is perceived as having that Kubrickian coldness, which I think is not very inviting as a movie going experience.”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:16:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
industry (1)
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industry (industry):
Avatar: The Way of Water → Tár.
Way of Water's one vague teaser is compared to Tár's teaser campaign.
“This movie has the same marketing campaign as Tar.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:30:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
lineage (3)
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lineage (spiritual forebear):
Ken Russell → Tár.
Russell's melodramatic operatic composer biopics like Mahler are a Tar precursor.
“He made a lot of, um, uh, like melodramatic, stylish operatic recreations of composers lives, like Mahler.”
The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:01 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (precursor):
Mahler → Tár.
Ken Russell's composer-life films like Mahler are a precursor to Tar.
“It is kind of a tar precursor.”
The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Leonard Bernstein → Tár.
Tim asks whether the hosts joked that Tar was about Bernstein conducting Mahler in the church; Sean answers that it was inspired by his work.
“Mad Tar must have been about Bernstein doing the Mahler in the church, right?”
The Big Picture · Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons · 1:12:20 · Tim Simons (0.60 sure it was them)
people (1)
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people (performance comparison):
Tár → Daniel Day-Lewis.
Chris says watching Blanchett is like watching a Daniel Day-Lewis movie, something you need front row seats for.
“This is like when you're watching a Daniel Day-Lewis movie.”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:00:13 · Chris Ryan (0.85 sure it was them)
theme (3)
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theme (comparison):
Tár → Lincoln.
Chris contrasts Blanchett's level of performance with a Lincoln-style historically resonant part, as a box-office draw for older audiences.
“I guess it's not Lincoln where she's like doing this historically like sort of resonant part, but it's in that kind of level of performance”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:16:11 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (comparison):
Tár → Phantom Thread.
Adam compares Tar to Phantom Thread as an unexpected discourse and meme movie driven by a naked, embarrassing performance.
“It is a meme monster movie. In a way that reminds me, in a way that reminds me actually more than anything, of something like Phantom Thread”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:19:08 · Adam Nayman (0.80 sure it was them) -
theme (comparison):
Tár → Phantom Thread.
Sean agrees with Phantom Thread as a perfect comparison, since both are secretly comedies.
“Phantom Thread is a perfect comparison, Adam, because it's also that's also a crypto comedy”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:19:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.75 sure it was them)
unmapped (1)
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unmapped (shared quality):
Tár → Top Gun: Maverick.
Amanda calls them her two favorites of the year, one for the spectacle of cinema and the other for going for it as capital-C cinema.
“I have 2 favorites of this year, Top Gun Maverick. For the spectacle of cinema and tar for just absolutely fucking going for it, capital C cinema.”
The Big Picture · The 2022 Movie Draft · 0:35:06 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)
verdict (2)
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verdict (ranking):
Tár → Nope.
Chris puts Tar at three and Banshees at two; Adam has Nope at three; the four lists overlap on Tar (Chris 3, Amanda 2, Sean 2) and on Nope (Adam 3, Sean 1).
“Number 3 is for me is tar.”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:00:01 · Chris Ryan (0.85 sure it was them) -
verdict (ranking):
Tár → Top Gun: Maverick.
Sean says his number two Tar and number one Nope are close, as electric moviegoing experiences, while his number three is Top Gun: Maverick.
“This, my number 2 and my number one are just, I almost did one and one and then I didn't do it”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:13:43 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
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fun, about
Tár:
Amanda laughed with joy at the ending and recalls small observed moments like the deleted email and Petra's father.
“I started like laughing with joy and I can't believe you're doing this at the end of this movie”
The Big Picture · The 2022 Movie Draft · 0:35:17 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tár:
The Juilliard confrontation is an instant time capsule of cancel culture, done less well since.
“The Juilliard set, you know, confrontation between the student and Lydia Tar is sort of like a, an instant time capsule”
The Big Picture · The 2022 Movie Draft · 0:37:23 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tár:
Chris watched three times: frustrated by the ending first, a blast second, and by the third he called it one of the great ones. He notes it will make under five million dollars.
“This is one of the great ones.”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:15:29 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tár:
Sean says the opening Q&A scene with the New Yorker interviewer is how to use Blanchett: ten minutes of her talking about things she likes. A hosts' joke imagines a Todd Field and Adam Sandler pairing.
“that opening scene, as I wrote in the Ringer piece, where she's taking questions from Gopnik, from the New Yorkers, like, that is how you use Cape Blanchett.”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:18:23 · Sean Fennessey (0.65 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tár:
Adam recommends Mr. Otterlake's Lydia Tar fan cam on Twitter; Sean notes many people think Lydia Tar is a real person.
“there's also the fact that so many people seem to think Lydia Tarr was a real person.”
The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:19:34 · Adam Nayman (0.55 sure it was them)
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- Cate Blanchett: star (Lydia Tár) (The Big Picture, The 2022 Movie Draft)
- Cate Blanchett: actor (The Big Picture, The Top Five Movies of 2022)
- Cate Blanchett: actor (The Big Picture, The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims)
- Todd Field: director (The Big Picture, The 2022 Movie Draft)
- Todd Field: director (The Big Picture, Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons)
- Todd Field: director (The Big Picture, The Top Five Movies of 2022)
- Todd Field: director (The Big Picture, The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims)
- Todd Field: director (Blank Check — Patreon, Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free))
- Todd Field: writer (Blank Check — Patreon, Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free))
- Focus Features: studio (developed a conductor movie) (The Big Picture, The 2022 Movie Draft)
- Leonard Bernstein: doing the Mahler in the church (the Tar comparison) (The Big Picture, Physical Media Strikes Back With Tim Simons)