F. Scott Fitzgerald
Made films the shows talk about.
Counted as writer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they wrote, which the two lists below run through too: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008); The Great Gatsby (2013).
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
F. Scott Fitzgerald: 2 lines, within their own work
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lineage (adaptation) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they wrote:
F. Scott Fitzgerald ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
The film is adapted from Fitzgerald's short story, though the speakers say it shares little with it.
“It's quite, it's, it doesn't have too much in common with the film, right?”
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lineage (adaptation distance) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they wrote:
F. Scott Fitzgerald ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
By the time Roth finished, the film resembles the story in name only.
“By the time he's done with it, the movie has no resemblance to Benjamin Button apart from, it's called Benjamin Button.”
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Forrest Gump (1994): 2 lines
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unmapped (anti-Gump answer) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they wrote:
Forrest Gump ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
Griffin reads Benjamin Button as a pointed answer to Gump, showing the death behind the Americana.
“But I think it's almost like pointedly an anti-gump.”
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unmapped (attempt at a Gump) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they wrote:
Forrest Gump ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
The speaker says the cultural narrative is that Benjamin Button is Fincher trying to do Gump.
“but I do think this is like the cultural narrative of this movie is he's trying to do Gump, right?”
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Eric Roth: 1 line
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unmapped (tribute) · through The Great Gatsby (2013), which they wrote:
Eric Roth ⇒ The Great Gatsby (the host's read).
Roth named the love interest Daisy as a tribute to Gatsby.
“He calls the love interest daisy as a tribute to the Great Gatsby.”
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Love Is Strong (Rolling Stones video): 1 line
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lineage (technique precursor) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they wrote:
Love Is Strong (Rolling Stones video) ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
A host guesses the Stones' giant-scale effects helped Fincher on Benjamin Button.
“Well, and I bet this helped for Benjamin Button eventually.”
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Mark Twain: 1 line
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lineage (inspiration) · them, directly:
Mark Twain ⇒ F. Scott Fitzgerald (the maker said so).
Fitzgerald said the story was inspired by a Twain remark about the best part of life coming at the beginning.
“Fitzgerald said the story was inspired by a remark of Mark Twain.”
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Orville Redenbacher commercial (Fincher, Digital Domain): 1 line
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unmapped (proof of concept) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they wrote:
Orville Redenbacher commercial (Fincher, Digital Domain) ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the maker said so).
Fincher used a Redenbacher commercial to test whether the film was makeable.
“I'm basically stealing money from Orvell Redbocker to figure out whether this film is makeable or not.”
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Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): 2 lines, within their own work
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lineage (adaptation) · them, directly:
F. Scott Fitzgerald ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
The film is adapted from Fitzgerald's short story, though the speakers say it shares little with it.
“It's quite, it's, it doesn't have too much in common with the film, right?”
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lineage (adaptation distance) · them, directly:
F. Scott Fitzgerald ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
By the time Roth finished, the film resembles the story in name only.
“By the time he's done with it, the movie has no resemblance to Benjamin Button apart from, it's called Benjamin Button.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:42:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
House of Cards (TV series): 1 line
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career (career step) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they wrote:
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button ⇒ House of Cards (TV series) (the host's read).
Fincher moved Mahershala Ali from Button into House of Cards.
“But I mean, look, Fincher puts him from this into House of Cards, which is one of the things that definitely levels him up.”
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The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (2013): 1 line
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unmapped (parody) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they wrote:
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button ⇒ The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (the host's read).
The speaker says Walter Mitty parodies Benjamin Button, as if to say Button got the Gump wrong.
“And Walter Mitty parodies Benjamin Button, almost as if to say, they fucked up.”
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What the speakers said they did
Writing (2) everyone in writing
- author of the short story, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (Blank Check — Patreon, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free))
- author of the novel (Daisy name), The Great Gatsby (Blank Check — Patreon, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free))
What was said about them, by kind
lineage (3)
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lineage (adaptation):
F. Scott Fitzgerald → The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
The film is adapted from Fitzgerald's short story, though the speakers say it shares little with it.
“It's quite, it's, it doesn't have too much in common with the film, right?”
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lineage (inspiration):
Mark Twain → F. Scott Fitzgerald.
Fitzgerald said the story was inspired by a Twain remark about the best part of life coming at the beginning.
“Fitzgerald said the story was inspired by a remark of Mark Twain.”
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lineage (adaptation distance):
F. Scott Fitzgerald → The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
By the time Roth finished, the film resembles the story in name only.
“By the time he's done with it, the movie has no resemblance to Benjamin Button apart from, it's called Benjamin Button.”
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Fun items about them
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fun, about
F. Scott Fitzgerald:
An anonymous admirer's letter after the story ran: as a short story writer, you would make a good lunatic.
“I read this story, and I wish to say that as a short story writer, you would make a good lunatic.”
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