Criterion Collection
Made films the shows talk about.
Counted as studio. The films the hosts said they were behind, which the two lists below run through too: The Game (1997); The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008).
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
F. Scott Fitzgerald: 2 lines
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lineage (adaptation) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they were behind as Blu-ray branding, per the speakers:
F. Scott Fitzgerald ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
The film is adapted from Fitzgerald's short story, though the speakers say it shares little with it.
“It's quite, it's, it doesn't have too much in common with the film, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:01:30 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (adaptation distance) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they were behind as Blu-ray branding, per the speakers:
F. Scott Fitzgerald ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
By the time Roth finished, the film resembles the story in name only.
“By the time he's done with it, the movie has no resemblance to Benjamin Button apart from, it's called Benjamin Button.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:42:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Forrest Gump (1994): 2 lines
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unmapped (anti-Gump answer) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they were behind as Blu-ray branding, per the speakers:
Forrest Gump ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
Griffin reads Benjamin Button as a pointed answer to Gump, showing the death behind the Americana.
“But I think it's almost like pointedly an anti-gump.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:22:50 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (attempt at a Gump) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they were behind as Blu-ray branding, per the speakers:
Forrest Gump ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
The speaker says the cultural narrative is that Benjamin Button is Fincher trying to do Gump.
“but I do think this is like the cultural narrative of this movie is he's trying to do Gump, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:10:05 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Seven (1995): 2 lines
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unmapped (R-rated proof) · through The Game (1997), which they were behind as home video edition (laserdisc, Blu-ray 2012):
Seven ⇒ The Game (the host's read).
Se7en's hit status as an R-rated film convinced the backers to fund The Game.
“I think convinced, um, people like, okay, like, you can make an R-rated movie a hit.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:33:16 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (commercial lead-in) · through The Game (1997), which they were behind as home video edition (laserdisc, Blu-ray 2012):
Seven ⇒ The Game (the host's read).
Se7en's success gave Fincher an absurd budget for The Game.
“this is better for me because now I can make this movie at an absurd budget.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:47:35 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
A Christmas Carol (2009): 1 line
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unmapped (template) · through The Game (1997), which they were behind as home video edition (laserdisc, Blu-ray 2012):
A Christmas Carol ⇒ The Game (the maker said so: reading Fincher's quotes in the dossier JJ put together).
Fincher's own framing, as quoted in the dossier, is that The Game is A Christmas Carol and Nick is Scrooge.
“it's a Christmas carol.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:47:52 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Love Is Strong (Rolling Stones video): 1 line
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lineage (technique precursor) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they were behind as Blu-ray branding, per the speakers:
Love Is Strong (Rolling Stones video) ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
A host guesses the Stones' giant-scale effects helped Fincher on Benjamin Button.
“Well, and I bet this helped for Benjamin Button eventually.”
Blank Check — Patreon · David Fincher Music Videos · 1:59:12 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Orville Redenbacher commercial (Fincher, Digital Domain): 1 line
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unmapped (proof of concept) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they were behind as Blu-ray branding, per the speakers:
Orville Redenbacher commercial (Fincher, Digital Domain) ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the maker said so).
Fincher used a Redenbacher commercial to test whether the film was makeable.
“I'm basically stealing money from Orvell Redbocker to figure out whether this film is makeable or not.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:52:07 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
House of Cards (TV series): 1 line
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career (career step) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they were behind as Blu-ray branding, per the speakers:
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button ⇒ House of Cards (TV series) (the host's read).
Fincher moved Mahershala Ali from Button into House of Cards.
“But I mean, look, Fincher puts him from this into House of Cards, which is one of the things that definitely levels him up.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 1:05:36 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Succession (2018): 1 line
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unmapped (looks like) · through The Game (1997), which they were behind as home video edition (laserdisc, Blu-ray 2012):
The Game ⇒ Succession (the host's read).
Jokes that the opening home-movie footage is ripped off by Succession.
“ripped it right off”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:35:58 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (2013): 1 line
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unmapped (parody) · through The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008), which they were behind as Blu-ray branding, per the speakers:
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button ⇒ The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (the host's read).
The speaker says Walter Mitty parodies Benjamin Button, as if to say Button got the Gump wrong.
“And Walter Mitty parodies Benjamin Button, almost as if to say, they fucked up.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:10:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Studio (2) everyone in studio
- Blu-ray branding, per the speakers, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (Blank Check — Patreon, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free))
- home video edition (laserdisc, Blu-ray 2012), The Game (Blank Check — Patreon, The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free))
What was said about them, by kind
No claims join them to a film or another person.
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Criterion Collection:
The Criterion Button Blu-ray is a Paramount disc with a licensed Criterion branding.
“And Paramount basically paid to license criterion as branding.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 2:25:05 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)