Wendell and Wild (2022)

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Wikidata Q98057531, film, IMDb tt5181830, TMDB 511817: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title.

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In the store as #641, Wendell and Wild (2022).

Who talked about it

Blank Check with Griffin & David

Blank Check — Patreon

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Coraline: 1 line the maker said so ×1

  1. unmapped (technique evolution): Coraline ⇒ Wendell and Wild (the maker said so: Selick's own statement). Selick turned against slick 3D-assisted look after Coraline and kept seams visible and embraced artifice in Wendell & Wild.
    “He said Coraline was maybe a little too smooth, and he wanted to go a bit backwards and show off the artifice with this movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:08:37 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Jordan Peele: 1 line the maker said so ×1

  1. lineage (origin of film): Jordan Peele ⇒ Wendell and Wild (the maker said so: Selick's account of seeing Key and Peele). Selick saw Key and Peele on Comedy Central and realized they were Wendell and Wild.
    “then it hit me, Wendell and Wild.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 0:53:45 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Pablo Lobato: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (visual inspiration): Pablo Lobato ⇒ Wendell and Wild (the host's read). Selick picked a flat, cutout caricature style that should not be adaptable to 3D and asked the team to build it.
    “Wendolyn Wilde, Argentinian artist, Pablo Lobato, is the big inspiration for the look of a lot of these guys.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:09:45 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

The Shadow King: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (unfinished predecessor): The Shadow King ⇒ Wendell and Wild (the host's read). The Shadow King combined stop motion with shadow animation; some of that is used in Wendell & Wild.
    “And they use some of that in this film, Wendell and Wild.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 0:44:46 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

The Nightmare Before Christmas: 5 lines contrast ×2 theme ×1 unmapped ×1 career ×1

  1. career (career): The Nightmare Before Christmas → Wendell and Wild. Selick's newest film is praised as sharpening, not shaving, his edges late in his career.
    “you're not shaving any of the edges, any of the edges away.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas with Michael Rianda (Ad-Free) · 0:21:40 · Michael Rianda (0.60 sure it was them)

Coraline: 3 lines unmapped ×2 craft ×1

  1. unmapped (technique evolution): Wendell and Wild → Coraline. Selick turned against slick 3D-assisted look after Coraline and kept seams visible and embraced artifice in Wendell & Wild.
    “He said Coraline was maybe a little too smooth, and he wanted to go a bit backwards and show off the artifice with this movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:08:37 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Beetlejuice: 2 lines craft ×1 contrast ×1

  1. craft (tone and structure): Wendell and Wild → Beetlejuice. Wendell and Wild are Beetlejuice-like in that the story is really about the human teen (Lydia/Kat) and they are the colorful characters.
    “They're Beetlejuicy in the movie in that it's like, well, it's really about Lydia.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:16:53 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Jordan Peele: 2 lines lineage ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (story note): Jordan Peele → Wendell and Wild. Peele pushed to make teen Kat the protagonist instead of the nun, to make the movie accessible to kids.
    “And Jordan Peele was like, cat should be the protagonist.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:01:45 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Monkeybone: 2 lines unmapped ×1 verdict ×1

  1. unmapped (protagonist note): Monkeybone → Wendell and Wild. Selick's pattern is to choose an adult / unconventional lead (retired pitchmen, a middle-aged nun) until a producer pushes for the kid.
    “Anyway, with monkey bone, I wanted every character to be a 60s, you know, retired pitch man.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:02:01 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Avatar: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (exposition style): Wendell and Wild → Avatar. Big sci-fi blockbusters like Inception and Avatar earn their virtuoso final acts with an hour of clumsy exposition; Wendell & Wild operates the same way.
    “And they're things like Inception or Avatar, where you're like, you know what?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:52:28 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (rewatch effect): Wendell and Wild → Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery. Griffin hoped a second viewing would work like Glass Onion, with setup gaining meaning, but it did not.
    “I was curious if watching it a 2nd time, it would have like a glass onion effect”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 2:12:32 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

Inception: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (exposition style): Wendell and Wild → Inception. The whole movie spends its running time on clumsy rules-exposition so the final act can pay off, like Inception.
    “the whole movie is Inception style explaining to you, well, this is a kick, and this is a totem”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:53:13 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

James and the Giant Peach: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (ranking): James and the Giant Peach → Wendell and Wild. Peach is ranked third over Wendell & Wild because it is more straightforward and rewatchable.
    “Peaches third.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 2:11:42 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Kingdom Hearts (game series): 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (accept the lore): Wendell and Wild → Kingdom Hearts (game series). The hellmaiden rules are like Kingdom Hearts lore: you just accept them because those are the rules.
    “Those are the rules because those are the rules.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:42:42 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Mad God: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (oscar ballot): Wendell and Wild → Mad God. A host voted Mad God first and Wendell & Wild second on the Critics Circle animation ballot.
    “I voted for Mad God of the Critics Circle because I was like, well, that's the thing I really think.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:59:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Marcel the Shell with Shoes On: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (stop-motion award field): Wendell and Wild → Marcel the Shell with Shoes On. With Marcel mostly stop motion, up to four of five animation nominees could be stop motion.
    “You could have a good category where 4 out of the 5 nominees were stop motion.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:59:25 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Pablo Lobato: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (visual inspiration): Pablo Lobato → Wendell and Wild. Selick picked a flat, cutout caricature style that should not be adaptable to 3D and asked the team to build it.
    “Wendolyn Wilde, Argentinian artist, Pablo Lobato, is the big inspiration for the look of a lot of these guys.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:09:45 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Pinocchio (Guillermo del Toro): 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (oscar competition): Wendell and Wild → Pinocchio (Guillermo del Toro). Netflix has two stop-motion films in one category; Pinocchio has the Oscar heat and likely cannibalized Wendell & Wild.
    “I get them not wanting to cannibalize against Pinocchio, that they have like 2 movies in this one category in the same medium”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 2:10:31 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

The Incredible Mr. Limpet: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (caricature casting): Wendell and Wild → The Incredible Mr. Limpet. Making the characters caricatures of Key and Peele is likened to the Mr. Limpet trick of putting the star's face on the animated character.
    “Like we have to make the characters caricatures of them, almost like it's the incredible Mr. Limpet or something”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:14:59 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

The Shadow King: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (unfinished predecessor): The Shadow King → Wendell and Wild. The Shadow King combined stop motion with shadow animation; some of that is used in Wendell & Wild.
    “And they use some of that in this film, Wendell and Wild.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 0:44:46 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

The Whale: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (viewing schedule): Wendell and Wild → The Whale. David planned to see The Whale right after Wendell & Wild at TIFF but skipped it after the Airbnb ordeal.
    “I was supposed to see the whale next.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 0:28:36 · David Sims (0.70 sure it was them)

Wednesday: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (Netflix algorithm): Wendell and Wild → Wednesday. Typing 'Wen' brings Wendell & Wild up because of Wednesday's popularity, though JD Amato says Netflix never recommended it.
    “Surely the algorithm's like, hey, you know, you might like Wendell and Wild.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 0:36:43 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (1)

  1. career (career): The Nightmare Before Christmas → Wendell and Wild. Selick's newest film is praised as sharpening, not shaving, his edges late in his career.
    “you're not shaving any of the edges, any of the edges away.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas with Michael Rianda (Ad-Free) · 0:21:40 · Michael Rianda (0.60 sure it was them)

contrast (3)

  1. contrast (contrast of villainy): Wendell and Wild → Beetlejuice. Unlike Beetlejuice, who is purely malevolent, Wendell and Wild are babes in the wood whose ulterior motive is an amusement park.
    “Unlike Beetlejuice who like operates from a place of like pure malevolence, right?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:22:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast of setup): Wendell and Wild → The Nightmare Before Christmas. Imagines Nightmare's Halloween Town opening as ten minutes of dialogue introducing each denizen as a plot function, to describe how Wendell & Wild feels.
    “It feels like if in the opening, this is Halloween sequence of nightmare before Christmas.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:31:00 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast of setup): Wendell and Wild → The Nightmare Before Christmas. Nightmare doesn't open with civic politics, so its underworld needs no explaining; Wendell & Wild front-loads dense plot.
    “Yeah, it also helps that like nightmare before Christmas doesn't start with 10 minutes of like the political infrastructure of a small town.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:36:39 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

craft (5)

  1. craft (tone and structure): Wendell and Wild → Beetlejuice. Wendell and Wild are Beetlejuice-like in that the story is really about the human teen (Lydia/Kat) and they are the colorful characters.
    “They're Beetlejuicy in the movie in that it's like, well, it's really about Lydia.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:16:53 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. craft (tone): Wendell and Wild → Coraline. The kindness shown to Kat, with quiet sadness, is likened to the boredom sequences in Coraline.
    “it's it's similar to the sort of the boredom sequences and core line where, uh, Everyone's kind to cat.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:28:33 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. craft (exposition style): Wendell and Wild → Avatar. Big sci-fi blockbusters like Inception and Avatar earn their virtuoso final acts with an hour of clumsy exposition; Wendell & Wild operates the same way.
    “And they're things like Inception or Avatar, where you're like, you know what?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:52:28 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. craft (exposition style): Wendell and Wild → Inception. The whole movie spends its running time on clumsy rules-exposition so the final act can pay off, like Inception.
    “the whole movie is Inception style explaining to you, well, this is a kick, and this is a totem”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:53:13 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. craft (rewatch effect): Wendell and Wild → Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery. Griffin hoped a second viewing would work like Glass Onion, with setup gaining meaning, but it did not.
    “I was curious if watching it a 2nd time, it would have like a glass onion effect”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 2:12:32 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

industry (3)

  1. industry (oscar ballot): Wendell and Wild → Mad God. A host voted Mad God first and Wendell & Wild second on the Critics Circle animation ballot.
    “I voted for Mad God of the Critics Circle because I was like, well, that's the thing I really think.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:59:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. industry (stop-motion award field): Wendell and Wild → Marcel the Shell with Shoes On. With Marcel mostly stop motion, up to four of five animation nominees could be stop motion.
    “You could have a good category where 4 out of the 5 nominees were stop motion.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:59:25 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. industry (oscar competition): Wendell and Wild → Pinocchio (Guillermo del Toro). Netflix has two stop-motion films in one category; Pinocchio has the Oscar heat and likely cannibalized Wendell & Wild.
    “I get them not wanting to cannibalize against Pinocchio, that they have like 2 movies in this one category in the same medium”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 2:10:31 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

lineage (2)

  1. lineage (origin of film): Jordan Peele → Wendell and Wild. Selick saw Key and Peele on Comedy Central and realized they were Wendell and Wild.
    “then it hit me, Wendell and Wild.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 0:53:45 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (visual inspiration): Pablo Lobato → Wendell and Wild. Selick picked a flat, cutout caricature style that should not be adaptable to 3D and asked the team to build it.
    “Wendolyn Wilde, Argentinian artist, Pablo Lobato, is the big inspiration for the look of a lot of these guys.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:09:45 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (caricature casting): Wendell and Wild → The Incredible Mr. Limpet. Making the characters caricatures of Key and Peele is likened to the Mr. Limpet trick of putting the star's face on the animated character.
    “Like we have to make the characters caricatures of them, almost like it's the incredible Mr. Limpet or something”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:14:59 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

theme (1)

  1. theme (plot density): Wendell and Wild → The Nightmare Before Christmas. Nightmare has one major objective everyone is on; Wendell & Wild is just so much plot.
    “Night before Christmas has like one major objective that everyone's right on.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:32:50 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

unmapped (9)

  1. unmapped (viewing schedule): Wendell and Wild → The Whale. David planned to see The Whale right after Wendell & Wild at TIFF but skipped it after the Airbnb ordeal.
    “I was supposed to see the whale next.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 0:28:36 · David Sims (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (Netflix algorithm): Wendell and Wild → Wednesday. Typing 'Wen' brings Wendell & Wild up because of Wednesday's popularity, though JD Amato says Netflix never recommended it.
    “Surely the algorithm's like, hey, you know, you might like Wendell and Wild.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 0:36:43 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (unfinished predecessor): The Shadow King → Wendell and Wild. The Shadow King combined stop motion with shadow animation; some of that is used in Wendell & Wild.
    “And they use some of that in this film, Wendell and Wild.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 0:44:46 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (story note): Jordan Peele → Wendell and Wild. Peele pushed to make teen Kat the protagonist instead of the nun, to make the movie accessible to kids.
    “And Jordan Peele was like, cat should be the protagonist.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:01:45 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (protagonist note): Monkeybone → Wendell and Wild. Selick's pattern is to choose an adult / unconventional lead (retired pitchmen, a middle-aged nun) until a producer pushes for the kid.
    “Anyway, with monkey bone, I wanted every character to be a 60s, you know, retired pitch man.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:02:01 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. unmapped (technique evolution): Wendell and Wild → Coraline. Selick turned against slick 3D-assisted look after Coraline and kept seams visible and embraced artifice in Wendell & Wild.
    “He said Coraline was maybe a little too smooth, and he wanted to go a bit backwards and show off the artifice with this movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:08:37 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  7. unmapped (unexplained underworld): Wendell and Wild → The Nightmare Before Christmas. Nobody asks who Oogie Boogie is in the spirit world, but Belzer's role is questioned.
    “We don't ask these same questions of someone like Oogie Boogie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:36:33 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. unmapped (accept the lore): Wendell and Wild → Kingdom Hearts (game series). The hellmaiden rules are like Kingdom Hearts lore: you just accept them because those are the rules.
    “Those are the rules because those are the rules.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:42:42 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  9. unmapped (merch): Wendell and Wild → Coraline. Coraline merch still lines Hot Topic while Wendell & Wild has none.
    “You're like, Coreline stuff is still lining fucking hot topic”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 2:00:53 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

verdict (2)

  1. verdict (ranking): James and the Giant Peach → Wendell and Wild. Peach is ranked third over Wendell & Wild because it is more straightforward and rewatchable.
    “Peaches third.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 2:11:42 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (ranking): Wendell and Wild → Monkeybone. Wendell & Wild is 4th and Monkeybone 5th in both hosts' Selick rankings.
    “Wendell Waldus 4th, monkey bonus 5th.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 2:11:43 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Wendell and Wild: Most of the film was animated remotely during the pandemic; animators moved sets into their homes.
    “Like animators moved sets into their homes and were in isolation working on their own section.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:08:20 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Wendell and Wild: A hellmaiden's cold open: the car crash, the punk boombox with a bloodshot eye, and X-Ray Spex on the radio ground the first seven minutes.
    “She's listening to x-ray specs on the radio.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:24:46 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Wendell and Wild: The undead city council members are skeletons from past centuries, which David finds a clever, laugh-out-loud idea.
    “Like, what if you brought back New York's city council from like the 18th century”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:40:33 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Wendell and Wild: Griffin and Ben saw it at the Quad in a nearly empty theater and walked out invigorated about its social commentary.
    “There was one other person in the theater, and we walked out and we were like pretty fucking invigorated by it.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:54:25 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about Wendell and Wild: The trans character Raul's identity is handled quietly through context clues, which they praise over self-congratulatory progressive films.
    “It's basically like stated only through context clues, you know?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 1:55:14 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about Wendell and Wild: No merchandise exists for the film, which the hosts find baffling given Selick's merch history.
    “No merch for this movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 2:00:26 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about Wendell and Wild: Griffin says a Republican version of the council skeleton gag is that they could consult dead founders to learn exactly what they intended.
    “We now know exactly what our founding forefathers intended because we brought them back to right here.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Wendell & Wild · 2:01:17 · Griffin Newman (0.30 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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