The Long Goodbye (1973)

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Wikidata Q1197489, film, IMDb tt0070334, TMDB 1847: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Robert Altman as director (‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt!); 1 more episode agrees.

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Who talked about it

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Dr. Strangelove: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. people (casting persona): Dr. Strangelove ⇒ The Long Goodbye (the host's read). Speaker says Strangelove was the first time Hayden's personal struggles were put on screen, and later filmmakers used that persona going forward (Godfather, Long Goodbye).
    “This is the 1st time when like his personal struggles, like were actualized in a movie, and then I felt like filmmakers only used this in movies going forward”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 1:55:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

The Player: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Long Goodbye ⇒ The Player (the host's read). Wesley reads Greta Scacchi's character as an echo of Nina van Pallandt's ice queen in The Long Goodbye, itself a riff on noir femmes fatales.
    “that character is a an echo of another Altman character, the Nina Van Palant character in the longabai”
    The Rewatchables · 'The Player' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Wesley Morris · 1:07:08 · Wesley Morris (0.80 sure it was them)

Connected to

Dr. Strangelove: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (casting persona): Dr. Strangelove → The Long Goodbye. Speaker says Strangelove was the first time Hayden's personal struggles were put on screen, and later filmmakers used that persona going forward (Godfather, Long Goodbye).
    “This is the 1st time when like his personal struggles, like were actualized in a movie, and then I felt like filmmakers only used this in movies going forward”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 1:55:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Night Moves: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (decade trend): The Long Goodbye → Night Moves. 70s films that take on and almost parody the tone of old noir; cynical yet strangely pie-eyed.
    “I'm fascinated by the 70s. taking on and almost almost parodying satirizing the tonality of some of these movies.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt! · 1:00:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)

Save the Tiger: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (shared theme (men out of time)): Save the Tiger → The Long Goodbye. Lemmon and Elliott Gould play men in the wrong time; Save the Tiger is basically a noir about the garment business.
    “a prestige film like Save the Tiger is basically a film noir.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt! · 1:01:23 · Patton Oswalt (0.95 sure it was them)

The Late Show: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (shared theme (time-warped detective)): The Late Show → The Long Goodbye. A time-warped 70s detective story; The Late Show is Sam Spade with a hearing aid and a bus pass.
    “it's Sam Spade with a hearing aid and a bus pass.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt! · 1:02:09 · Patton Oswalt (0.95 sure it was them)

The Player: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Player → The Long Goodbye. Wesley reads Greta Scacchi's character as an echo of Nina van Pallandt's ice queen in The Long Goodbye, itself a riff on noir femmes fatales.
    “that character is a an echo of another Altman character, the Nina Van Palant character in the longabai”
    The Rewatchables · 'The Player' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Wesley Morris · 1:07:08 · Wesley Morris (0.80 sure it was them)

Under the Silver Lake: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (self-aware modern noir): Under the Silver Lake → The Long Goodbye. The modern noir with a real idea about now, self-parodying like The Long Goodbye.
    “similar to that longer buy, sort of like highly self-aware, almost self-parodying aspect, but that is really, really successful.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt! · 1:06:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

lineage (1)

  1. lineage (lineage): The Player → The Long Goodbye. Wesley reads Greta Scacchi's character as an echo of Nina van Pallandt's ice queen in The Long Goodbye, itself a riff on noir femmes fatales.
    “that character is a an echo of another Altman character, the Nina Van Palant character in the longabai”
    The Rewatchables · 'The Player' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Wesley Morris · 1:07:08 · Wesley Morris (0.80 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (casting persona): Dr. Strangelove → The Long Goodbye. Speaker says Strangelove was the first time Hayden's personal struggles were put on screen, and later filmmakers used that persona going forward (Godfather, Long Goodbye).
    “This is the 1st time when like his personal struggles, like were actualized in a movie, and then I felt like filmmakers only used this in movies going forward”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 1:55:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

theme (2)

  1. theme (shared theme (men out of time)): Save the Tiger → The Long Goodbye. Lemmon and Elliott Gould play men in the wrong time; Save the Tiger is basically a noir about the garment business.
    “a prestige film like Save the Tiger is basically a film noir.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt! · 1:01:23 · Patton Oswalt (0.95 sure it was them)
  2. theme (shared theme (time-warped detective)): The Late Show → The Long Goodbye. A time-warped 70s detective story; The Late Show is Sam Spade with a hearing aid and a bus pass.
    “it's Sam Spade with a hearing aid and a bus pass.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt! · 1:02:09 · Patton Oswalt (0.95 sure it was them)

unmapped (2)

  1. unmapped (decade trend): The Long Goodbye → Night Moves. 70s films that take on and almost parody the tone of old noir; cynical yet strangely pie-eyed.
    “I'm fascinated by the 70s. taking on and almost almost parodying satirizing the tonality of some of these movies.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt! · 1:00:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (self-aware modern noir): Under the Silver Lake → The Long Goodbye. The modern noir with a real idea about now, self-parodying like The Long Goodbye.
    “similar to that longer buy, sort of like highly self-aware, almost self-parodying aspect, but that is really, really successful.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Nightmare Alley’ and Our Favorite Films Noir, With Patton Oswalt! · 1:06:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

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