Fear and Desire (1953)

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Who talked about it

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Came from

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Led to

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No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

Killer's Kiss: 4 lines industry ×1 people ×1 contrast ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. people (shared cast): Fear and Desire → Killer's Kiss. Frank Silvera is in both films.
    “The cast, Frank Silvera, who's also in Killer's Kiss.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:37:27 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Stanley Kubrick: 2 lines lineage ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Stanley Kubrick → Fear and Desire. Kubrick's four explicit war movies are Strangelove, Fear and Desire, Full Metal Jacket and Paths of Glory.
    “This strange love, fear and desire, and full metal jacket.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 0:23:34 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

The Killing: 2 lines unmapped ×1 craft ×1

  1. unmapped (first real film): Fear and Desire → The Killing. Kubrick disowned Fear and Desire and treated Killer's Kiss as a warm-up, so The Killing is the first film he respects.
    “this is probably the 1st movie, Kubrick respects in his filmography”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:10:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

2001: A Space Odyssey: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career arc): Fear and Desire → 2001: A Space Odyssey. An artist can make Fear and Desire and later make 2001.
    “So I just think as like a filmmaker. It's just invaluable to be like, you can make fear and desire.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:29:41 · Alex Ross Perry (0.60 sure it was them)

Following: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (rough first film): Fear and Desire → Following. Following is the speaker's good example of a rough, interesting debut like this one.
    “Like, well, I think following is a good version of this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:39:36 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

La Grande Illusion: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (comparison): Fear and Desire → La Grande Illusion. Cutting to the generals feels like Grand Illusion.
    “But it almost feels like a grand illusion thing where you like, you then cut to the office and you stay in their perspective for a while, you know?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:49:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Story of a Three Day Pass: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (rough first film): Fear and Desire → Story of a Three Day Pass. A first film scraped together outside the system, with feeling.
    “story of a 3 day pass, the Melvin Van Peebles movie, which was similarly a 1st film that he kind of scraped together outside of the system.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:39:57 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

The Twilight Zone: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (tone): Fear and Desire → The Twilight Zone. The opening narration feels like the Twilight Zone.
    “that intro, narration, despite not making perfect sense, feels very Twilight Zone”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:02:18 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Top Gun: Maverick: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (comparison): Fear and Desire → Top Gun: Maverick. The unnamed enemy is like Top Gun Maverick's war without a country.
    “it almost feels like a Top Gun Maverick thing of just, like, just let me tell a story about war without, like, being anything.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:43:13 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (1)

  1. career (career arc): Fear and Desire → 2001: A Space Odyssey. An artist can make Fear and Desire and later make 2001.
    “So I just think as like a filmmaker. It's just invaluable to be like, you can make fear and desire.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 0:29:41 · Alex Ross Perry (0.60 sure it was them)

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast): Fear and Desire → Killer's Kiss. Killer's Kiss was conceived as pure action on a mechanical gangster plot, the opposite of the first film.
    “This one was nothing but action sequences strung together on a mechanically constructed gangster plot.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 1:03:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

craft (2)

  1. craft (documentary style): The Killing → Fear and Desire. The Killing's documentary feel recalls Fear and Desire and Kubrick's earlier work.
    “Fear and desire feels very documentary-esque.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:20:29 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. craft (tone): Fear and Desire → The Twilight Zone. The opening narration feels like the Twilight Zone.
    “that intro, narration, despite not making perfect sense, feels very Twilight Zone”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:02:18 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

industry (1)

  1. industry (shared financing): Fear and Desire → Killer's Kiss. Both were funded by pharmacists and druggists.
    “It's funny. Both of these films you read that all the money came from like fucking pharmacies and drugstores.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:27:56 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

lineage (1)

  1. lineage (lineage): Stanley Kubrick → Fear and Desire. Kubrick's four explicit war movies are Strangelove, Fear and Desire, Full Metal Jacket and Paths of Glory.
    “This strange love, fear and desire, and full metal jacket.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 0:23:34 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (shared cast): Fear and Desire → Killer's Kiss. Frank Silvera is in both films.
    “The cast, Frank Silvera, who's also in Killer's Kiss.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:37:27 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

theme (2)

  1. theme (comparison): Fear and Desire → Top Gun: Maverick. The unnamed enemy is like Top Gun Maverick's war without a country.
    “it almost feels like a Top Gun Maverick thing of just, like, just let me tell a story about war without, like, being anything.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:43:13 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. theme (comparison): Fear and Desire → La Grande Illusion. Cutting to the generals feels like Grand Illusion.
    “But it almost feels like a grand illusion thing where you like, you then cut to the office and you stay in their perspective for a while, you know?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:49:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

unmapped (5)

  1. unmapped (first real film): Fear and Desire → The Killing. Kubrick disowned Fear and Desire and treated Killer's Kiss as a warm-up, so The Killing is the first film he respects.
    “this is probably the 1st movie, Kubrick respects in his filmography”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:10:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (rough first film): Fear and Desire → Following. Following is the speaker's good example of a rough, interesting debut like this one.
    “Like, well, I think following is a good version of this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:39:36 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (rough first film): Fear and Desire → Story of a Three Day Pass. A first film scraped together outside the system, with feeling.
    “story of a 3 day pass, the Melvin Van Peebles movie, which was similarly a 1st film that he kind of scraped together outside of the system.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:39:57 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (disowned): Fear and Desire → Stanley Kubrick. Kubrick was embarrassed by the film; the host reads his quote.
    “It's not a film I remember with any pride, he says.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:44:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (shared technique): Fear and Desire → Killer's Kiss. Both were shot silent and dubbed afterward.
    “Oh, right, he does the same fucking thing again, where they shoot it without sound and dub over every line dialogue.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 1:05:27 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Fear and Desire: The streaming copies are public-domain colorized versions that look like cheap AI, with color that will not stay on faces.
    “It looks like it was done by some very rudimentary $5 AI, but it's this thing where the color like can't stick to their faces.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:01:36 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Fear and Desire: The poster sells a 'half animal girl' with an illustration of a kissed neck, making the war movie look supernatural.
    “An illustration of, uh, Paul Mizurski kissing her neck that makes it look consensual, and says, fear and desire, trapped for desperate man, and a strange half animal girl.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:03:19 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Fear and Desire: Making the film was Kubrick's film school: he saw a thousand movies, then taught himself by doing.
    “then made his 1st film Fear and Desire, which was essentially making a film as film school.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:27:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Fear and Desire: Both first features were funded by relatives and acquaintances who ran pharmacies.
    “The 1st 2 movies, he essentially gets financed by parents, friends, and relatives who run pharmacies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:27:48 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about Fear and Desire: Shooting silent and dubbing later tripled the budget; shooting cost $9,000, post $30,000.
    “I fucking got to go in and add all the sound. And rerecord all the dialogue and then it like tripled his budget.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:35:06 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about Fear and Desire: Kubrick on his own film, as read from the dossier.
    “It's not a film I remember with any pride, he says.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:44:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about Fear and Desire: Kubrick phoned to stop a rediscovered print from being introduced at a festival.
    “And Stanley called him up and was like, please don't.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 0:45:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about Fear and Desire: Eerie shot: a dead woman's POV as a hand waves over her eyes, then a pulse check.
    “They cut to a POV shot. I know. Of him waving his hand in front of her eyes.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 1:10:45 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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