The Killing (1956)

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What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Clean Break (novel): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (adaptation): Clean Break (novel) ⇒ The Killing (the host's read). The film is the screen version of the novel Clean Break.
    “Clean Break was the name of the book.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:05:46 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Stanley Kubrick: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (drew on his chess life): Stanley Kubrick ⇒ The Killing (the host's read). The speaker says the movie comes out of Kubrick's chess life in several ways.
    “I love how much this movie comes out of Kubrick's chess life in multiple ways.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:09:39 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

One-Eyed Jacks: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (led to): The Killing ⇒ One-Eyed Jacks (the host's read). Brando had seen The Killing and Paths of Glory and wanted Kubrick to direct his western.
    “Marlon Brando had seen the killing and had seen paths of glory and thought Kubrick was great.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:39:11 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Paths of Glory: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (led to): The Killing ⇒ Paths of Glory (the host's read). Kirk Douglas saw The Killing and wanted that director for Paths of Glory.
    “And then didn't Kirk Douglas see this and went, oh, this is paths of glory.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:05:46 · Patton Oswalt (0.35 sure it was them)

Reservoir Dogs: 1 line the maker said so ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Killing ⇒ Reservoir Dogs (the maker said so: a Tarantino quote the host reads). Tarantino said Reservoir Dogs was his version of Kubrick's heist film, without meaning it as a ripoff.
    “but I did think of it as my killing, my take on that kind of heist movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:47:05 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

The Dark Knight: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (homage): The Killing ⇒ The Dark Knight (the host's read). The clown mask is said to look basically like the Joker mask Nolan pays homage to in The Dark Knight.
    “Nolan obviously pays homage to in the Dark Knight”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:28:00 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)

Connected to

Stanley Kubrick: 3 lines career ×1 lineage ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (drew on his chess life): Stanley Kubrick → The Killing. The speaker says the movie comes out of Kubrick's chess life in several ways.
    “I love how much this movie comes out of Kubrick's chess life in multiple ways.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:09:39 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Fear and Desire: 2 lines unmapped ×1 craft ×1

  1. unmapped (first real film): Fear and Desire → The Killing. Kubrick disowned Fear and Desire and treated Killer's Kiss as a warm-up, so The Killing is the first film he respects.
    “this is probably the 1st movie, Kubrick respects in his filmography”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:10:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Paths of Glory: 2 lines craft ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. craft (craft): Paths of Glory → The Killing. The overcomplicated hard-boiled dialogue of the rewrite is the kind that rules in The Killing.
    “that's like the kind of dialogue that like rules in the killing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 0:41:29 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

A Simple Plan: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (heist gone wrong): The Killing → A Simple Plan. Ben thinks he would have pulled off the heist in both The Killing and A Simple Plan.
    “Pat, when we covered Sam Remi's a simple plan on this movie, Ben texted us”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:29:48 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Bandido: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (double bill): The Killing → Bandido. UA released The Killing on a double bill with Bandido.
    “they put it on a double bill with Bandido”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:06:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Charley Varrick: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (same dream): The Killing → Charley Varrick. Johnny Clay wants to vanish and live quietly on the money, like Matthau in Charley Varrick, though Matthau seems to want a nap.
    “He has the same dreams as like as Walter Mathow and Charlie Varick”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:41:16 · Patton Oswalt (0.45 sure it was them)

Clean Break (novel): 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (adaptation): Clean Break (novel) → The Killing. The film is the screen version of the novel Clean Break.
    “Clean Break was the name of the book.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:05:46 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Crime Wave: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (shared cast): The Killing → Crime Wave. Hayden and Carey both appear in Crime Wave and The Killing.
    “he's in crime wave, obviously.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:17:01 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Day of the Fight: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (documentary style): The Killing → Day of the Fight. The racetrack footage reminds the speaker of Day of the Fight and Kubrick's Look magazine work.
    “It reminds me of, you know, a lot of Kubrick stuff like Day of the Fight”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:19:39 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Deathbed: The Bed That Eats: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (title bit): The Killing → Deathbed: The Bed That Eats. Bed of Fear leads to Patton's Deathbed riff and the title debate.
    “one of my favorite routines of yours of all time”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:05:59 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Dr. Strangelove: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (shared cast): Dr. Strangelove → The Killing. Kubrick brought in Sterling Hayden from The Killing for Ripper.
    “okay, and then he brings in Sterling Hayden from the killing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 0:58:51 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)

Evil Dead: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (title): The Killing → Evil Dead. The Killing as a title is like The Evil Dead; obvious words on a poster.
    “what we talked about with the evil dead”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:09:09 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Eyes Wide Shut: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (trajectory): The Killing → Eyes Wide Shut. Kubrick goes from documentary reality to building his own fake New York by Eyes Wide Shut.
    “by the time you get to eyes wide shut and he has no interest in capturing reality”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:20:52 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Frank Sinatra: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if casting): Frank Sinatra → The Killing. Sinatra was negotiating for the book rights, so this was almost a Sinatra picture.
    “So this was almost a Sinatra picture.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:13:56 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Giant: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (awards-year contrast): The Killing → Giant. The Killing's little low-budget kind stands against the bloated epics (Giant, King and I, Ten Commandments) of the era.
    “all the great movies from this era are these little low budget”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:08:38 · Patton Oswalt (0.40 sure it was them)

Goodfellas: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (documentary realism): Goodfellas → The Killing. Scorsese had the wig-shop owner shoot the real ad, the same real-over-polish instinct as Kubrick.
    “directors who really respect the documentary feel and the realism almost to a fault”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:14:48 · Patton Oswalt (0.50 sure it was them)

Jim Thompson: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Jim Thompson → The Killing. Thompson wrote The Killing.
    “he wrote the killing, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 0:34:37 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them)

Killer's Kiss: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (successor): The Killing → Killer's Kiss. The Killing puts all of this in a cooler package with better actors.
    “The killing kind of just like puts all of this in a cooler package with better actors, no offense to the actors.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 1:21:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Lolita: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (financing): The Killing → Lolita. Harris sold his rights to The Killing to raise the money to buy Lolita's rights.
    “Um, has to sell his rights to the killing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Lolita with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:40:30 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Magnolia: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (narration): The Killing → Magnolia. The Killing's ominous narrator recalls the Ricky Jay narration that opens Magnolia.
    “it reminds me a lot of the Ricky J narration at the beginning of Magnolia”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:46:12 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Marty: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (studio comparison): The Killing → Marty. United Artists compared the film to Marty as a low-budget A picture.
    “United Artists sort of compares it to Marty”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:18:40 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Network: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (narration): The Killing → Network. The narrator's too-slick, removed vibe recalls the narrator in Network.
    “I forget who does the narration in network, but he has that same sort of vibe”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:47:13 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

One-Eyed Jacks: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (led to): The Killing → One-Eyed Jacks. Brando had seen The Killing and Paths of Glory and wanted Kubrick to direct his western.
    “Marlon Brando had seen the killing and had seen paths of glory and thought Kubrick was great.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:39:11 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Quentin Tarantino: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (advocacy): Quentin Tarantino → The Killing. Tarantino championed The Killing in the 90s, drawing more people to it.
    “I think Tarantino was like really, really advocating for that movie in the 90s, and so a lot more people got onto it that are more our age.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 0:45:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)

Reservoir Dogs: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Reservoir Dogs → The Killing. Tarantino said Reservoir Dogs was his version of Kubrick's heist film, without meaning it as a ripoff.
    “but I did think of it as my killing, my take on that kind of heist movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:47:05 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

Rodney Dangerfield: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (possible cameo): Rodney Dangerfield → The Killing. IMDb lists Dangerfield as an uncredited onlooker; the speakers doubt it.
    “He is currently on IMDb.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:28:54 · Patton Oswalt (0.40 sure it was them)

Taxi Driver: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (modern noir): The Killing → Taxi Driver. Patton calls Murder by Contract chilling and unsettling and not like earlier noir, and says the same of The Killing as one of the most modern noirs.
    “this is one of the noirs that feels the most modern to me”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:56:25 · Patton Oswalt (0.55 sure it was them)

The Dark Knight: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (homage): The Killing → The Dark Knight. The clown mask is said to look basically like the Joker mask Nolan pays homage to in The Dark Knight.
    “Nolan obviously pays homage to in the Dark Knight”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:28:00 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)

The Searchers: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (box office week): The Killing → The Searchers. The Searchers topped the box office the week of release, a hit with a Dell comics tie-in.
    “it was a big hit and it like had like a Dell comics tie in”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:31:50 · Patton Oswalt (0.40 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (1)

  1. career (career): The Killing → Stanley Kubrick. The Killing let Kubrick leap from B-picture craftsman to the most significant film artist of his time.
    “the movie that allowed Kubrick to take the leap from very crafty photographer trying to make his way doing B pictures”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:47:24 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (awards-year contrast): The Killing → Giant. The Killing's little low-budget kind stands against the bloated epics (Giant, King and I, Ten Commandments) of the era.
    “all the great movies from this era are these little low budget”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:08:38 · Patton Oswalt (0.40 sure it was them)

craft (3)

  1. craft (craft): Paths of Glory → The Killing. The overcomplicated hard-boiled dialogue of the rewrite is the kind that rules in The Killing.
    “that's like the kind of dialogue that like rules in the killing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 0:41:29 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. craft (documentary style): The Killing → Day of the Fight. The racetrack footage reminds the speaker of Day of the Fight and Kubrick's Look magazine work.
    “It reminds me of, you know, a lot of Kubrick stuff like Day of the Fight”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:19:39 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. craft (documentary style): The Killing → Fear and Desire. The Killing's documentary feel recalls Fear and Desire and Kubrick's earlier work.
    “Fear and desire feels very documentary-esque.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:20:29 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

industry (3)

  1. industry (financing): The Killing → Lolita. Harris sold his rights to The Killing to raise the money to buy Lolita's rights.
    “Um, has to sell his rights to the killing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Lolita with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:40:30 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. industry (studio comparison): The Killing → Marty. United Artists compared the film to Marty as a low-budget A picture.
    “United Artists sort of compares it to Marty”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:18:40 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. industry (box office week): The Killing → The Searchers. The Searchers topped the box office the week of release, a hit with a Dell comics tie-in.
    “it was a big hit and it like had like a Dell comics tie in”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:31:50 · Patton Oswalt (0.40 sure it was them)

lineage (4)

  1. lineage (lineage): Reservoir Dogs → The Killing. Tarantino said Reservoir Dogs was his version of Kubrick's heist film, without meaning it as a ripoff.
    “but I did think of it as my killing, my take on that kind of heist movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:47:05 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Stanley Kubrick → The Killing. The Killing is where Kubrick first has a real grasp of the language; Paths of Glory sits after it.
    “The killing is when he finally has sort of like a real grasp on the language.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 1:41:56 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (adaptation): Clean Break (novel) → The Killing. The film is the screen version of the novel Clean Break.
    “Clean Break was the name of the book.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:05:46 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (homage): The Killing → The Dark Knight. The clown mask is said to look basically like the Joker mask Nolan pays homage to in The Dark Knight.
    “Nolan obviously pays homage to in the Dark Knight”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:28:00 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)

people (4)

  1. people (shared cast): Dr. Strangelove → The Killing. Kubrick brought in Sterling Hayden from The Killing for Ripper.
    “okay, and then he brings in Sterling Hayden from the killing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 0:58:51 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)
  2. people (people): Jim Thompson → The Killing. Thompson wrote The Killing.
    “he wrote the killing, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 0:34:37 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. people (shared cast): The Killing → Crime Wave. Hayden and Carey both appear in Crime Wave and The Killing.
    “he's in crime wave, obviously.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:17:01 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. people (possible cameo): Rodney Dangerfield → The Killing. IMDb lists Dangerfield as an uncredited onlooker; the speakers doubt it.
    “He is currently on IMDb.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:28:54 · Patton Oswalt (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (16)

  1. unmapped (advocacy): Quentin Tarantino → The Killing. Tarantino championed The Killing in the 90s, drawing more people to it.
    “I think Tarantino was like really, really advocating for that movie in the 90s, and so a lot more people got onto it that are more our age.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 0:45:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (led to): The Killing → One-Eyed Jacks. Brando had seen The Killing and Paths of Glory and wanted Kubrick to direct his western.
    “Marlon Brando had seen the killing and had seen paths of glory and thought Kubrick was great.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:39:11 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (title bit): The Killing → Deathbed: The Bed That Eats. Bed of Fear leads to Patton's Deathbed riff and the title debate.
    “one of my favorite routines of yours of all time”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:05:59 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (title): The Killing → Evil Dead. The Killing as a title is like The Evil Dead; obvious words on a poster.
    “what we talked about with the evil dead”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:09:09 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (drew on his chess life): Stanley Kubrick → The Killing. The speaker says the movie comes out of Kubrick's chess life in several ways.
    “I love how much this movie comes out of Kubrick's chess life in multiple ways.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:09:39 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  6. unmapped (first real film): Fear and Desire → The Killing. Kubrick disowned Fear and Desire and treated Killer's Kiss as a warm-up, so The Killing is the first film he respects.
    “this is probably the 1st movie, Kubrick respects in his filmography”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:10:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  7. unmapped (trajectory): The Killing → Eyes Wide Shut. Kubrick goes from documentary reality to building his own fake New York by Eyes Wide Shut.
    “by the time you get to eyes wide shut and he has no interest in capturing reality”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:20:52 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. unmapped (same dream): The Killing → Charley Varrick. Johnny Clay wants to vanish and live quietly on the money, like Matthau in Charley Varrick, though Matthau seems to want a nap.
    “He has the same dreams as like as Walter Mathow and Charlie Varick”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:41:16 · Patton Oswalt (0.45 sure it was them)
  9. unmapped (narration): The Killing → Magnolia. The Killing's ominous narrator recalls the Ricky Jay narration that opens Magnolia.
    “it reminds me a lot of the Ricky J narration at the beginning of Magnolia”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:46:12 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  10. unmapped (narration): The Killing → Network. The narrator's too-slick, removed vibe recalls the narrator in Network.
    “I forget who does the narration in network, but he has that same sort of vibe”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:47:13 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  11. unmapped (modern noir): The Killing → Taxi Driver. Patton calls Murder by Contract chilling and unsettling and not like earlier noir, and says the same of The Killing as one of the most modern noirs.
    “this is one of the noirs that feels the most modern to me”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:56:25 · Patton Oswalt (0.55 sure it was them)
  12. unmapped (led to): The Killing → Paths of Glory. Kirk Douglas saw The Killing and wanted that director for Paths of Glory.
    “And then didn't Kirk Douglas see this and went, oh, this is paths of glory.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:05:46 · Patton Oswalt (0.35 sure it was them)
  13. unmapped (double bill): The Killing → Bandido. UA released The Killing on a double bill with Bandido.
    “they put it on a double bill with Bandido”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:06:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  14. unmapped (documentary realism): Goodfellas → The Killing. Scorsese had the wig-shop owner shoot the real ad, the same real-over-polish instinct as Kubrick.
    “directors who really respect the documentary feel and the realism almost to a fault”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:14:48 · Patton Oswalt (0.50 sure it was them)
  15. unmapped (heist gone wrong): The Killing → A Simple Plan. Ben thinks he would have pulled off the heist in both The Killing and A Simple Plan.
    “Pat, when we covered Sam Remi's a simple plan on this movie, Ben texted us”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:29:48 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  16. unmapped (successor): The Killing → Killer's Kiss. The Killing puts all of this in a cooler package with better actors.
    “The killing kind of just like puts all of this in a cooler package with better actors, no offense to the actors.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fear & Desire / Killer's Kiss (Ad-Free) · 1:21:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

what-if (1)

  1. what-if (what-if casting): Frank Sinatra → The Killing. Sinatra was negotiating for the book rights, so this was almost a Sinatra picture.
    “So this was almost a Sinatra picture.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:13:56 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about The Killing: A working title for the film was Bed of Fear, which sets Patton off on his Deathbed routine.
    “But one of the titles, one of the working titles that apparently was close to happening for this movie, I don't know if you know this, was bed of fear.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:05:48 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about The Killing: The racetrack documentary footage was shot behind cinematographer Ballard's back.
    “He went behind his back.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:19:53 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about The Killing: In the airport scene the baggage staff are the only two people in the film who don't know it's a noir.
    “those 2 actors are the only 2 people in this entire film who don't know they're in an AWAR film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:50:17 · Patton Oswalt (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about The Killing: Audiences hated the studio-demanded chronological cut even more, so the jumbled timeline went back in.
    “They test screen it and the audiences hate it even more when it's in the right order.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:52:47 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about The Killing: UA's Max Youngstein ranked Kubrick and Harris 'not far from the bottom' of their producer-filmmaker teams.
    “And Max said, not far from the bottom.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:05:01 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about The Killing: Time predicted it would 'make a killing at the cash booth'; Wikipedia's next line is a loss of $130,000.
    “going to make a killing at the cash booth”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:06:30 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about The Killing: The clown mask that Johnny puts on looks basically the same as the Joker one, and Griffin loves that it also looks foolish.
    “Nolan obviously pays homage to in the Dark Knight”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:28:00 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about The Killing: Ben texts that if he were in a heist movie where people fuck it up, he would have pulled it off and ended on a tropical island.
    “Anytime Ben watches a heist movie in which people fuck it up.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:29:59 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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