Ben-Hur (1959)

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Wikidata Q180098, film, IMDb tt0052618, TMDB 665: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Charlton Heston as actor (The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie); 2 more episodes agree.

What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.

Who talked about it

Blank Check with Griffin & David

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

No line says it drew on another film or person.

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

The Last Temptation of Christ: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (accent convention): Ben-Hur ⇒ The Last Temptation of Christ (the host's read). Scorsese made the Romans British, as in Ben-Hur, with everyone else American.
    “He said the big thing was to give let the Romans be British.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 1:02:57 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Connected to

The Last Temptation of Christ: 2 lines contrast ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. contrast (genre contrast): The Last Temptation of Christ → Ben-Hur. Biblical epics already existed in public mind in the 60s, so a Last Temptation would have drawn less ire then than in the 80s.
    “Precisely because the biblical epic already existed in like the public mind.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:53:23 · Jamelle Bouie (0.70 sure it was them)

Jack Huston: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Jack Huston → Ben-Hur. Huston was up for many things and the one he got was Ben-Hur.
    “the one he got is Ben Hur”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:58:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Kirk Douglas: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (runner-up): Kirk Douglas → Ben-Hur. Douglas was the runner-up for the lead of Ben-Hur.
    “Like Douglas was the runner-up for Ben Hur.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:21:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Russell Crowe: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (star-type): Russell Crowe → Ben-Hur. Quoting Lex G on Ben-Hur's Charlton Heston who could be larger than life yet steady, they say Crowe is the one modern guy who can do that.
    “no one can hold a movie like this and sort of know how to be larger than life, but also just steady at the center.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World with John Hodgman · 1:13:08 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Spartacus: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (response to): Ben-Hur → Spartacus. After losing Ben-Hur, speaker says Spartacus is drafting off Douglas's dark man.
    “Yeah. This is drafting off of Kirk Douglas's dark man.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:21:39 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (1)

  1. career (career): Jack Huston → Ben-Hur. Huston was up for many things and the one he got was Ben-Hur.
    “the one he got is Ben Hur”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:58:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (genre contrast): The Last Temptation of Christ → Ben-Hur. Biblical epics already existed in public mind in the 60s, so a Last Temptation would have drawn less ire then than in the 80s.
    “Precisely because the biblical epic already existed in like the public mind.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:53:23 · Jamelle Bouie (0.70 sure it was them)

unmapped (4)

  1. unmapped (accent convention): The Last Temptation of Christ → Ben-Hur. Scorsese made the Romans British, as in Ben-Hur, with everyone else American.
    “He said the big thing was to give let the Romans be British.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 1:02:57 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (star-type): Russell Crowe → Ben-Hur. Quoting Lex G on Ben-Hur's Charlton Heston who could be larger than life yet steady, they say Crowe is the one modern guy who can do that.
    “no one can hold a movie like this and sort of know how to be larger than life, but also just steady at the center.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World with John Hodgman · 1:13:08 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (runner-up): Kirk Douglas → Ben-Hur. Douglas was the runner-up for the lead of Ben-Hur.
    “Like Douglas was the runner-up for Ben Hur.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:21:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (response to): Ben-Hur → Spartacus. After losing Ben-Hur, speaker says Spartacus is drafting off Douglas's dark man.
    “Yeah. This is drafting off of Kirk Douglas's dark man.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:21:39 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

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