Blank Check — Patreon: Eclipse
Published 2021-06-21; 2:21:41 by the feed.
As extracted (engineer-sonnet-2026-10-13)
The extraction calls the show “Blank Check with Griffin & David (Patreon)” and the episode “Eclipse”.
Hosts: Griffin Newman, David Sims, Ben Hosley. Guests: none.
Subject films: The Twilight Saga: Eclipse (2010).
On the transcript: Auto transcription with no speaker labels and several mishearings of names; fast cross-talk makes attribution weak so most speakers are marked unknown. The guest Chris from the New Moon episode is referenced but absent.
Added from the extractor's memory, not said
- Guest 'Chris' (mother nominated for Imitation of Life) is presumably Chris Weitz, who directed New Moon; the transcript only says 'Chris'.
- Imitation of Life year 1959 and film years in 'year' fields were added from memory where the hosts did not state them (Hard Candy 2005, 30 Days of Night 2007, Tideland 2005, etc.)
- Peter Facinelli = Carlisle, Deborah Ann Woll = Jessica in True Blood, Riley = Xavier Samuel's character, Sokka = Rathbone's role, and Catherine Hardwicke as Twilight's director are from memory (hosts say 'Hardwick' as director of the first movie).
Films that came up
subject (1)
anecdote (2)
Imitation of Life · Sonic the Hedgehog
compared (10)
Twilight · The Twilight Saga: New Moon · Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones · The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn · True Blood · What We Do in the Shadows · Buffy the Vampire Slayer · The Last Airbender · The Hunger Games · Harry Potter
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Hard Candy · 30 Days of Night · Hannibal · Hotel Transylvania · Nosferatu · Gilmore Girls · Black Mirror: Bandersnatch · American Gods · Powers · Super Mario · Justice League / The Flash (Snyder) · Avengers: Age of Ultron · X-Men: Days of Future Past · Star Wars (Darth Maul / Palpatine) · Mad TV · Valentine's Day · Columbo · Boardwalk Empire · Ben-Hur · Antebellum · Guardians of the Galaxy · Assassin's Creed · Stick It · The Legend of Hercules · Masters of the Universe (He-Man) · Che · The Affair · The Lord of the Rings · Snow White and the Huntsman · Frasier · Pirates of the Caribbean · Orphan · Silent Hill · The Cabin in the Woods · ParaNorman · Tideland · The Batman (Pattinson) · Beetlejuice · The Stepford Wives · The Dark Knight · The Avengers · Transformers · Toy Story 3 · Grown Ups · Salt · Knight and Day
Claims (88)
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lineage (lineage):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Imitation of Life.
A guest on the prior episode (Chris, who worked on the franchise) was told the series plays like a Sirkian melodrama; his mother was nominated for Imitation of Life.
“it's like a Circian melodrama”
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career (career):
Douglas Sirk → Imitation of Life.
Described as Sirk's last movie and one of his best.
“Cirque's last movie, Imitation of Life, uh, which is one of his best movies ever.”
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career (career):
David Slade → Hard Candy.
Slade was hired for Eclipse because of his stylized horror/action work on Hard Candy and 30 Days of Night.
“had done hard candy and 500 days of night.”
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career (career):
David Slade → Hannibal.
Slade's TV work after Eclipse, called his best contribution to the culture, includes the Hannibal pilot.
“his best contribution to the culture was uh, uh, the, the Hannibal episodes.”
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programming (programming):
David Slade → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse.
Summit hired a horror stylist hoping to make the franchise scary and win teenage boys.
“I think they went like, oh, here's a guy who does like highly stylized, sophisticated horror shit.”
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verdict (verdict):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Quentin Tarantino.
Tarantino told Eli Roth the Twilight movies are for 12-year-old girls and a gateway drug to cinema.
“They're for 12-year-old girls and they might be a great gateway drug to cinema.”
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verdict (verdict):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Kevin Smith.
Kevin Smith defended Twihards for normalizing geek culture.
“they're normalizing geek culture, like this is good for everyone.”
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industry (industry):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Nosferatu.
Ben's vampire sound effect and Nosferatu shirt; Lugosi vs Nosferatu confusion.
“I am wearing my Nosteratu t-shirt right now.”
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contrast (contrast):
Xavier Samuel → Brenton Thwaites.
Samuel was one of the blond Australian pretty boys of the 2010s; Thwaites is the brunette Australian.
“Brandon Thwaites, who's brunette, but is Australian.”
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people (people):
Xavier Samuel → Matt Czuchry.
Samuel looks like a taller Matt Czuchry from Gilmore Girls (transcribed Matt Shuri).
“This guy just looks like, um, like Matt Shuri from from Gilmore Girls is just a little like taller.”
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people (people):
David Slade → Ray Winstone.
Slade's look is compared to a more homely Ray Winstone.
“He looks like he looks like a more homely Ray Winstone.”
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lineage (lineage):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones.
The meadow-and-flowers romance scene reads as Attack of the Clones vibes; the ending returns to the same field.
“Whereas this is Attack of the Clones vibes.”
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programming (programming):
Summit Entertainment → Twilight (saga).
Summit tried something different each time a new director came aboard: teen director, YA effects director, horror director.
“Summit sort of tried to, like, try something different every time they brought on a new director”
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industry (industry):
Summit Entertainment → Bill Condon.
Summit met Bill Condon, Gus Van Sant and Sofia Coppola to tackle the last two films (Breaking Dawn split in two); Condon got the job.
“the 3 people Summit met with to tackle the last 2 movies, the one book split into two, were Bill Condon”
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what-if (what-if):
Summit Entertainment → Gus Van Sant.
Van Sant and Sofia Coppola were also interviewed for the last two films.
“the other 2 people who they met with were Gus Van Sant and Sophia Coppola.”
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craft (craft):
Bill Condon → The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn.
Condon is a logical pick: he knows horror, camp and prestige and will play within the lines.
“He knows camp.”
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what-if (what-if):
Sofia Coppola → The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn.
Coppola and Van Sant said in interviews they wanted to do it but Summit would not give them latitude.
“Summit didn't want to give them that much latitude in a way.”
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career (career):
David Slade → Black Mirror: Bandersnatch.
The only feature-length thing Slade has made since Eclipse is Bandersnatch.
“The only thing he's done that's feature lengthens this is Bandersnatch, the Black Mirror episode.”
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career (career):
David Slade → American Gods.
Slade directed the American Gods pilot, a lush-looking show; plus Hannibal and Powers.
“he did the American Gods, Pilot, and a few of those”
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career (career):
David Slade → Powers.
Slade also did Powers, the only PlayStation original series.
“He did powers, remember?”
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industry (industry):
Bryce Dallas Howard → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse.
Summit hired a bigger star to play Victoria because the character now had to be a cosmic threat.
“They hire a bigger star.”
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craft (craft):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: Twilight.
Eclipse's sped-up running looks better than the first movie's.
“the sped up running in the 1st movie looked so fucking stupid”
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craft (craft):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Super Mario.
Arm-pumping super-speed runs would look like Super Mario, so the film shoots tight profiles instead.
“they're going to look like Super Mario.”
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craft (craft):
Bryan Singer → X-Men: Days of Future Past.
Singer's Quicksilver is called the most successful screen speedster because of smart slow motion.
“I still think the most successful is the, unfortunately, the Brian Singer Quicksilver.”
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craft (craft):
Zack Snyder → Justice League.
Snyder's approach to a speedster: lightning effects and cranked-up slow-mo.
“Snyder does his super cranked up thing.”
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contrast (contrast):
Avengers: Age of Ultron → X-Men: Days of Future Past.
Age of Ultron's Quicksilver just blips around and is not very interesting looking next to Singer's.
“I just remember Quicksilver in Age of Ultron just kind of like blipping.”
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career (career):
Rebecca Drysdale → Sonic the Hedgehog.
Drysdale was one of the writers who pitched Sega and Sony on a Sonic adaptation.
“one of 8000 writers who met with Sega and Sony about trying to adapt Sonic into a movie”
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theme (theme):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Sonic the Hedgehog.
Speedster problem via Rebecca Drysdale: a character faster than everyone has no shared continuum with others; the Sonic movie solved it with a road trip.
“Sonic is inherently kind of a tough character to build dramatic narrative around because his whole thing is he goes faster than everyone else.”
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lineage (lineage):
Xavier Samuel → Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope.
Riley, Victoria's new vampire apprentice, is her Darth Maul.
“That's like her, the Darth Maul to her.”
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contrast (contrast):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: Twilight.
In the first movie, the Cullen/bad vampire threat felt more threatening and Pattinson more fun.
“I genuinely find the 3 performances in the 1st movie, a lot more threatening.”
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people (people):
Xavier Samuel → Robert Pattinson.
Samuel looks like Pattinson smushed out a bit.
“it looks it looks like you took Pattinson, honestly.”
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contrast (contrast):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: New Moon.
Eclipse is seen as the more action-packed, better-reviewed entry vs. New Moon's lack of propulsion; Rotten Tomatoes 48 vs 28.
“New moon got 28.”
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theme (theme):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → True Blood.
Twilight's newborn-vampire subplot prompts a comparison to True Blood, where turning someone makes you responsible for them.
“I'm thinking about true blood again.”
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theme (theme):
True Blood → What We Do in the Shadows.
True Blood's mundane vampire responsibility is what makes What We Do in the Shadows work.
“that's so much of what makes what we do in the shadows work, right?”
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people (people):
Jemaine Clement → What We Do in the Shadows.
The film and TV show came out of Jemaine and Taika riffing for years on the banality of vampire roles.
“that came out of, uh, uh, Jermaine and and Taika for years riffing on like the banality of vampire roles”
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craft (craft):
Jackson Rathbone → Mad TV.
In Twilight Rathbone plays Jasper like Stuart from Mad TV, the most socially abnormal person in history.
“I feel like the 1st movie Jackson Rafflin plays the character like Stewart from Mad TV, right?”
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craft (craft):
Jackson Rathbone → James Dean.
In Eclipse Rathbone is a seething angry young man, warmed-over James Dean.
“Like now he's giving us like fucking warmed over James Dean shit.”
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contrast (contrast):
What We Do in the Shadows → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse.
Vampire fans love Shadows' attention to rules and get angry that Twilight threw them out without replacing them with interesting rules.
“vampire fans get angry about this franchise for throwing out most of the vampire rules.”
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contrast (contrast):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Buffy's sleeping-with-Angel story is the sex-has-consequences version of what Twilight does as abstinence.
“she sleeps with Angel, and it turns him evil because of, you know, arcane vampire rule shit”
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career (career):
Taylor Lautner → Valentine's Day.
Lautner was in Valentine's Day (2010), when he briefly dated Taylor Swift.
“this is the same year as Valentine's Day.”
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craft (craft):
Billy Burke → Columbo.
Charlie Swan's detective work isn't exactly Columbo.
“he's not exactly fucking Colombo over here.”
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career (career):
Jack Huston → Ben-Hur.
Huston was up for many things and the one he got was Ben-Hur.
“the one he got is Ben Hur”
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career (career):
Jack Huston → Antebellum.
Huston was apparently in Antebellum as the villain.
“apparently he was in antebellum.”
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what-if (what-if):
Jack Huston → Guardians of the Galaxy.
Huston tested for Star-Lord.
“He tested for Star-Lord.”
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career (career):
Jack Huston → Boardwalk Empire.
Huston was good in Boardwalk Empire.
“He was good in Boardwalk Empire, obviously.”
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craft (craft):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Twilight vampires lack a monster-mode like Buffy's where the teeth come out.
“even like in the Buffy way, where it's like, okay, now the teeth come out”
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craft (craft):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Assassin's Creed.
The Volturi costumes look like Assassin's Creed.
“They look like they're in Assassin's Creed.”
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craft (craft):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Adam and the Ants.
Volturi's costumed arrival compared to Adam and the Ants.
“People dressed up like freaking Adam and the ants.”
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career (career):
Kellan Lutz → Stick It.
Lutz was in Stick It.
“He was in Stickit.”
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career (career):
Kellan Lutz → The Legend of Hercules.
Lutz played Hercules in the Renny Harlin movie, six months before the Rock's.
“he played Hercules in the the Renny Harlan movie, right?”
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what-if (what-if):
Kellan Lutz → Masters of the Universe.
Lutz has campaigned for a decade to play He-Man.
“actively campaigning to play He-Man”
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craft (craft):
Taylor Lautner → Mark Ruffalo.
Lautner's padded wolf bodysuit is like Ruffalo's bizarre upper torso suit on Marvel sets, so co-stars' hands land right.
“Ruffalo wears this, like, bizarre upper torso, you know?”
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career (career):
Catalina Sandino Moreno → Che.
Academy Award nominee for her debut; later in Che and on The Affair.
“she's into Che movies.”
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career (career):
Catalina Sandino Moreno → The Affair.
Spent a long time on The Affair on Showtime but never broke out.
“she was on the affair for a long time on Showtime”
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career (career):
Jackson Rathbone → The Last Airbender.
Rathbone was in Eclipse and The Last Airbender (as Sokka) the same month, and made the comic relief humorless.
“Brathbone is Soca.”
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programming (programming):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Hunger Games.
Twilight's casting grew from B-list to Oscar nominees by the third film, like Hunger Games gaining Hoffman and Julianne Moore.
“And it's kind of the same thing with hunger games.”
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contrast (contrast):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Harry Potter.
Harry Potter had cache immediately and got huge actors from the start, unlike Twilight and Hunger Games.
“whereas like something like Harry Potter, that there was so much cache immediately that they get huge actors.”
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contrast (contrast):
The Last Airbender → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse.
Last Airbender blew casting on a franchise starter, the opposite of Twilight's growth.
“so last Airbender is the opposite where they just, they just fucking, they blew it.”
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industry (industry):
Taylor Lautner → Tom Cruise.
Lautner's listed 5'9 is the height people round up to; Cruise and Downey Jr. height.
“5'9 is like Tom Cruise height.”
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theme (theme):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Lord of the Rings.
Cullens don't sleep, like elves in Lord of the Rings.
“They are, they are like elves in Lord of the Rings or whatever.”
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industry (industry):
Kristen Stewart → Snow White and the Huntsman.
Stewart is photographed with Rupert Sanders in 2012 for Snow White and the Huntsman.
“Snow White and the Huntsman is 2012.”
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theme (theme):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Frasier.
Seattle setting so Seattle-y one could have Frasier on the radio.
“Like, you know, might as well just like have Frasier”
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lineage (lineage):
Bryce Dallas Howard → Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope.
Victoria finally getting to boss Riley around reads as Emperor Palpatine.
“she's like emperor palpatining him.”
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craft (craft):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Pirates of the Caribbean.
Vampires walking underwater on the sea floor mirrors the Pirates of the Caribbean trailer shot.
“They're doing like the Pirates of the Caribbean thing, right?”
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career (career):
Isabelle Fuhrman → Orphan.
Mistaken for Ferland; Fuhrman is the orphan.
“Isabel Furman is an orphan.”
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career (career):
Jodelle Ferland → Silent Hill.
Ferland was in Silent Hill.
“She was in Silent Hill.”
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career (career):
Jodelle Ferland → The Cabin in the Woods.
Ferland was in Cabin in the Woods.
“She was in the cabinet in the woods.”
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career (career):
Jodelle Ferland → Tideland.
Lead girl in Terry Gilliam's Tideland (transcribed Thailand), one of the blank checkiest films ever.
“she is the lead girl in Terry Gilliam's Thailand, which is truly one of the blank checkiest films in history.”
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career (career):
Jodelle Ferland → ParaNorman.
Ferland voices Aggie in ParaNorman, the villain.
“She plays Aggie.”
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theme (theme):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The CW.
Boys fighting over who protects Bella is like a crappy CW show.
“it's like a CW, a crappy CW show, you know?”
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career (career):
Robert Pattinson → The Batman.
Telling the 2010 Comic-Con complainers that Pattinson would play Batman a decade later.
“a decade from now, this guy's going to play Batman and you're going to be amped about it.”
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industry (industry):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → San Diego Comic-Con.
Twilight fans camping out for Hall H changed fandom protocol, then Marvel fans retaliated.
“the Twyhards are the one who started that thing of like, Hall H is the biggest venue”
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industry (industry):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → ParaNorman.
At Comic-Con 2012 a ParaNorman morning panel was mismatched with the Twilight panel hours later.
“there was a paranorman panel at like 10 o'clock in the morning.”
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contrast (contrast):
Howard Shore → Carter Burwell.
Eclipse is scored by Howard Shore, which surprises a speaker who thought Carter Burwell scored all the Twilight films.
“Oh, Howard Short did the score for this one. You know, I thought Burwell did the score for all of, but no, he comes back later, I guess.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:47:48 · David Sims (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Carter Burwell → The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn.
Burwell returns to score the last two Twilight films after Shore's Eclipse.
“Yeah, Burwell comes back for the last two.”
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craft (craft):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Beetlejuice.
The mountain-top set looks like a hobby-town model, like the tabletop in Beetlejuice.
“it looks like the, the, the tabletop and Beetlejuice.”
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what-if (what-if):
Xavier Samuel → Sam Claflin.
Even Sam Claflin, who is fun in the Hunger Games movies, would be more fun in the role.
“Sam Clayflind is more fun than this.”
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what-if (what-if):
Xavier Samuel → Cam Gigandet.
The part needed asshole charisma like Gigandet's dirtbag energy, not model energy.
“this guy's just serving bad Gigon Day.”
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what-if (what-if):
Xavier Samuel → Luis Guzman.
The ideal casting for the villain would have been Luis Guzman.
“It should be Louise Guzman Headduster.”
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contrast (contrast):
Bryce Dallas Howard → Rachelle Lefevre.
Recasting makes the viewer's brain need a movie to reset to the same character.
“When you recast, it does take your brain a while to like reset to this is the same character.”
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craft (craft):
Bryce Dallas Howard → The Stepford Wives.
Her shattered head is like a Stepford wife.
“her shattered head, like Stepford wife”
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craft (craft):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Harry Potter.
Even faithful adaptations like Harry Potter cannot carry book exposition into dialogue.
“the thing with Harry Potter too.”
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craft (craft):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: New Moon.
Eclipse was shot by Javier Aguirresarobe, who also shot New Moon, and the speakers find Eclipse similar-looking to New Moon, only more lush and autumnal.
“Uh, Javier, Agriaska Robe. I, you know, I, I, who shot New Moon.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 2:02:26 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Dark Knight.
Opening weekend compared to Dark Knight's 151M record and Avengers' 200M in 2012.
“Dark Knight, the record was 151 or something.”
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programming (programming):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Toy Story 3.
Eclipse opened the same weekend as Toy Story 3, Last Airbender and Grown Ups (box office game).
“It's Toy Story 3, and it's the weekend.”
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people (people):
Knight and Day → James Mangold.
The box-office game's last clue: a James Mangold action film with a huge actor; most forgotten entry in both filmographies.
“Which is one of those movies that I rewatch with being like, is this good, Mangold?”
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verdict (verdict):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn.
Griffin promises the last movie makes a very active decision, the biggest deviation from the books.
“they make a very, very active decision in the final movie that is the biggest deviation from the books.”
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programming (programming):
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn.
The final film is promised to take a huge liberty with the book and be entertaining, and the second to last has Michael Sheen camp.
“at least, I remember the next one having some Michael Sheen in it.”
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Fun items (27)
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fun, about
Twilight series:
Target canceled the host's Twilight steel book order the fifth time.
“Target canceled my steel book order for the 5th time.”
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fun, about
David Slade:
Slade said in an interview he thought Twilight was stupid, then two years later was offered it.
“he said, no, I think that stuff is stupid.”
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fun, about
Twilight series:
Sparkle on faces improves each film.
“Every year, they try and fix the truck or whatever.”
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fun, about
Eclipse:
Volvo still has the endorsement, the badass hero fights bikers in a sensible Volvo.
“Volvo still has the endorsement.”
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fun, about
Booboo Stewart:
Booboo Stewart is one of the Wolfpack boys; also Warpath; one of the best names in Hollywood.
“Booboo Stewart, which is one of my favorite names in Hollywood.”
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fun, about
Ange Veragudo:
Letterboxd review: another universe where Bella just goes to college.
“I'm looking at her in her letterbox review of this film, shout out Ange Veragudo.”
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fun, about
Eclipse:
The hosts' running question about vampire abstinence: can't they do some hand stuff?
“Can't they just do some hand stuff?”
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fun, about
Jack Huston:
Tested for Star-Lord and was on the short list for everything.
“He tested for Star-Lord.”
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fun, about
Eclipse:
The wolf keychain Jacob makes is like making someone a picture frame; the weirdest gift ever.
“That's like making someone a picture frame.”
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fun, about
Jackson Rathbone:
Looked up on Wikipedia: Rathbone named his daughter Presley Bowie Rathbone.
“Jackson Rathbone named his daughter, Presley Bowie Rathbone.”
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fun, about
Kellan Lutz:
Lutz played Hercules six months before the Rock's; 'neither one exists'.
“Slightly more, but it's kind of crazy how neither one exists.”
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fun, about
Eclipse:
Lautner is a wolf in a padded bodysuit so Stewart can pet him; the behind-the-scenes photo is shown.
“He's wearing this crazy padded thing so that she can pet the wolf and her hand will be in the right place”
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fun, about
Jackson Rathbone:
Eclipse and The Last Airbender opened the same month, Rathbone in both.
“I'm just realizing this summer, Rathbone has a clipse and the last airbender come out the same month.”
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fun, about
Kristen Stewart:
Stewart trains herself out of her ticks: no lip biting, no nail or hair stuff.
“this is the one where suddenly the lip biting isn't happening.”
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fun, about
Alice and Charlie:
Charlie smiles and shoots finger guns at Alice for the first time in the franchise.
“Charlie walks out all smiles for the 1st time in this franchise, shooting her finger guns.”
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fun, about
Billy Burke:
Charlie's sex talk with a hanging chart of sex positions.
“But then he pulls out a chart, you know, or he like pulls it down like it's hanging, you know what I mean?”
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fun, about
Robert Pattinson:
Trump tweeted at Pattinson offering to help him with women after the Stewart scandal.
“Our most recent president of the United States reached out to the lead actor of the big teen girl franchise over social media”
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fun, about
Eclipse:
Bryce Dallas Howard appears to be running in place in the wide shot.
“Is she running in place though, you think?”
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fun, about
Burger King tie-in:
Ring with Cullen crest that takes up four knuckles and opens to a picture of Edward.
“It is a ring that would take up all 4 knuckles in terms of real estate and it has a hinge.”
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fun, about
Burger King tie-in:
Burger King Kids Club meal items: Bella's tote bag, 3 inches long, plus others.
“Bella's tote bag is a tote bag, which is, I don't know, 3 inches long.”
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fun, about
Burger King tie-in:
A hacky sack with the Cullen crest, called the Forks foot bag.
“a hacky sack with the Cullen family crest, of course.”
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fun, about
Jodelle Ferland:
Lead of Terry Gilliam's Tideland.
“she is the lead girl in Terry Gilliam's Thailand, which is truly one of the blank checkiest films in history.”
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fun, about
Robert Pattinson:
Twilight fans' fanboys in 2010 never expected Batman.
“a decade from now, this guy's going to play Batman and you're going to be amped about it.”
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fun, about
Eclipse:
Mountain backdrop looks like the tabletop in Beetlejuice or a model train set.
“it looks like the, the, the tabletop and Beetlejuice.”
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fun, about
Eclipse:
Vampires shatter like porcelain so the PG-13 film can show decapitations bloodlessly.
“they can have decapitations and stuff without it being bloody.”
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fun, about
Eclipse:
A joke riffing on the Pattinson/Stewart scene: 'my dick looks like a glitter pen', a friend still cites it as funniest thing.
“my dick looks like a glitter pen.”
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fun, about
Eclipse:
Box office game: Eclipse $157M July 4th 2010 five-day, but 3-day opening was 64M and New Moon still holds the franchise record.
“The highest grossing opening weekend of the franchise is still new moon.”
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Who's talking
- Griffin Newman (host): Went in ready to reappreciate the franchise and loved the first two films (came out of midnight screenings thinking of them as giddy, teenage and emotionally charged). Hates movies where characters refuse to make decisions and the plot stalls for time, and dislikes the permanence/teen-marriage logic of the books. Suckers for a bold swing, such as the last film's big deviation, and for Slade's horror-genre scenes. Attribution is partly inferred from context (baby, steel book, signing off at 2:12) so confidence is moderate.
- David Sims (host): Likes campy, genre-aware Twilight and enjoyed New Moon for its challenges; likes old-timey vampire vs werewolf action and well-made lore. Hates inert scenes and kissing-free tension, and gets irritated by clutter/poor casting. A sucker for actors with dirtbag charisma and trivia on actors' careers. Attribution partly inferred; many lines unattributed.
- Ben Hosley (host): Producer in the room: has a clear sense of what is hot or not, which governs the show's cold open. Wears a Nosferatu shirt, is fixated on the scent/bangles of the franchise, and announces he's adopting a chair in Bryant Park with a plaque. Hates annoying noises like the bird's nest outside his window.
The show's recurring bits
Names the transcriber got wrong
- Circian → Douglas Sirk (Cirque)
- Brian Singer → Bryan Singer
- Matt Shuri → Matt Czuchry
- Thailand → Tideland (Terry Gilliam)
- Furland / Isabel Furman → Jodelle Ferland / Isabelle Fuhrman
- Agriaska Robe → Javier Aguirresarobe
- Howard Short → Howard Shore
- Boo-boo → Booboo Stewart
- Gigon Day → Cam Gigandet
- Rochelle Lefevre → Rachelle Lefevre
- Fachinelli → Peter Facinelli (Carlisle)
- Ange Veragudo → Ange Veragudo (Letterboxd reviewer, uncertain spelling)
- Jessica Annwall → Deborah Ann Woll
- Sarah Clark → Sarah Clarke
- Soca → Sokka
- Stewart from Mad TV → Stuart (Mad TV)
- Sam Cliflyn → Sam Claflin
- Brandon Thwaites → Brenton Thwaites
- Sophia Coppola → Sofia Coppola
- Kevin Smith's 'Spalding Gray' → evening with Kevin Smith