The Elephant Man (1980)
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Wikidata Q272860, film, IMDb tt0080678, TMDB 1955: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits John Hurt as actor (Raging Bull with David Krumholtz); 3 more episodes agree.
What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.
In the store as #164, The Elephant Man (1980).
Who talked about it
Blank Check with Griffin & David
- Griffin Newman: 3 lines in Dune with John Hodgman
- Unattributed: 6 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Blank Check — Patreon
- Unattributed: 1 line, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
No line says it drew on another film or person.
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
No line says another film or person drew on it.
Connected to
Eraserhead: 4 lines craft ×2 contrast ×2
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contrast (contrast):
Eraserhead → The Elephant Man.
Dino wanted Elephant Man Lynch, not Eraserhead Lynch, though they share a lot.
“But he's sort of saying like, I want the elephant man lynch, not eraser head lynch.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:08:39 · Griffin Newman (0.55 sure it was them)
David Lynch: 2 lines unmapped ×1 craft ×1
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craft (craft):
David Lynch → The Elephant Man.
Lynch planned to do the Elephant Man makeup effects himself, as he had on Eraserhead, until the production insisted on a professional.
“Like his plan was to do the makeup effects entirely himself because he was used to working that way on Elephant Man, or not Elephant Man, Eraserhead.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 2:10:50 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
Dune: 1 line career ×1
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career (career):
Dune → The Elephant Man.
Elephant Man's hit status and Best Picture nomination made Lynch a director studios wanted.
“David Lynch made the elephant man.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:00:20 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
Freddie Jones: 1 line career ×1
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career (career):
Freddie Jones → The Elephant Man.
Freddie Jones is the one actor carried over from Elephant Man.
“You have Freddie Jones, of course, from Elephant Man is the one actor he does bring over from that movie.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:51:01 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)
George Lucas: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (industry):
George Lucas → The Elephant Man.
Compared to Mel Brooks hiding his name on The Elephant Man so audiences would not expect a comedy.
“It's like the Mel Brooks elephant man thing, where it's like they'll think it's a comedy.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis · 0:53:24 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Mad Max 2: 1 line contrast ×1
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contrast (contrast):
Mad Max 2 → The Elephant Man.
Road Warrior makes more sense as a second film leading to Dune than the Elephant Man did.
“Road Warrior makes a lot more sense than Elephant.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:36:48 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz, first at 2:10:44, 2 times
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis, first at 0:53:24, 1 time
- anecdote in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Twin Peaks: The Return (Episode 8) with Connor Ratliff, first at 1:16:52, 1 time
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman, first at 0:22:37, 16 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Eraserhead (Ad-Free), first at 0:31:19, 6 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi, first at 0:23:07, 2 times
What was said about it, by kind
career (2)
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career (career):
Dune → The Elephant Man.
Elephant Man's hit status and Best Picture nomination made Lynch a director studios wanted.
“David Lynch made the elephant man.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:00:20 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Freddie Jones → The Elephant Man.
Freddie Jones is the one actor carried over from Elephant Man.
“You have Freddie Jones, of course, from Elephant Man is the one actor he does bring over from that movie.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:51:01 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)
contrast (3)
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contrast (contrast):
Eraserhead → The Elephant Man.
Dino wanted Elephant Man Lynch, not Eraserhead Lynch, though they share a lot.
“But he's sort of saying like, I want the elephant man lynch, not eraser head lynch.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:08:39 · Griffin Newman (0.55 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Mad Max 2 → The Elephant Man.
Road Warrior makes more sense as a second film leading to Dune than the Elephant Man did.
“Road Warrior makes a lot more sense than Elephant.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:36:48 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Eraserhead → The Elephant Man.
The Elephant Man is a deeply tragic, not funny film, unlike Eraserhead.
“Watching the elephant man's a deeply trapped film. It's quite beautiful, but it's not really funny.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eraserhead (Ad-Free) · 1:31:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
craft (3)
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craft (craft):
The Elephant Man → Eraserhead.
Both are movies about sensitive weirdos in arch black and white.
“he's made two, like, movies about sensitive weirdos and the pain of existing in society that are shot in like very arch black and white.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:07:04 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
David Lynch → The Elephant Man.
Lynch planned to do the Elephant Man makeup effects himself, as he had on Eraserhead, until the production insisted on a professional.
“Like his plan was to do the makeup effects entirely himself because he was used to working that way on Elephant Man, or not Elephant Man, Eraserhead.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 2:10:50 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Eraserhead → The Elephant Man.
Both films carry a sound designer credit for David Lynch.
“It is sound designed by David Lynch. Which makes sense.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 2:39:02 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
industry (1)
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industry (industry):
George Lucas → The Elephant Man.
Compared to Mel Brooks hiding his name on The Elephant Man so audiences would not expect a comedy.
“It's like the Mel Brooks elephant man thing, where it's like they'll think it's a comedy.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis · 0:53:24 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
unmapped (1)
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unmapped (perfectionist hands-on):
David Lynch → The Elephant Man.
Lynch, frustrated by wrong materials on the Return, mirrors his wish to do John Hurt's makeup himself on Elephant Man until Paramount said no.
“he wanted to do all the makeup for Elephant Man himself.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Twin Peaks: The Return (Episode 8) with Connor Ratliff · 1:16:52 · Connor Ratliff (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
None.
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- David Lynch: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Twin Peaks: The Return (Episode 8) with Connor Ratliff)
- David Lynch: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Dune with John Hodgman)
- David Lynch: sound designer (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Dune with John Hodgman)
- David Lynch: director (Oscar nominee) (Blank Check — Patreon, Eraserhead (Ad-Free))
- David Lynch: wanted to do all the John Hurt makeup himself (was told he could not) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Twin Peaks: The Return (Episode 8) with Connor Ratliff)
- Mel Brooks: producer (elephant man comparison) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis)
- John Hurt: actor (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raging Bull with David Krumholtz)
- John Hurt: actor (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Twin Peaks: The Return (Episode 8) with Connor Ratliff)
- Freddie Jones: actor (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Dune with John Hodgman)
- Eric Bergren: co-writer (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Dune with John Hodgman)
- Christopher De Vore: co-writer (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Dune with John Hodgman)
- Judy Garland: referenced for Elephant Man comparison (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Dune with John Hodgman)