Bull Durham (1988)
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Who talked about it
The Rewatchables
- Bill Simmons: 7 lines in ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · A CR Month Mailbag!
- Mallory Rubin: 2 lines in ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin
- Unattributed: 1 line, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Rocky: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (lineage):
Rocky ⇒ Bull Durham (the host's read).
Bull Durham took the Rocky motto a level further in how a sports movie is written.
“how can we take that rocky motto and actually go the next level with how we write a movie”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:51 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
No line says another film or person drew on it.
Connected to
The Natural: 3 lines contrast ×2 programming ×1
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contrast (contrast):
The Natural → Bull Durham.
Mallory is drawn to the opposite of the Natural's premise: what if you can never get there, as with Crash Davis.
“I'm always, though, going to be slightly more drawn, I think, to the opposite, which is what if you can never get there?”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:05:18 · Mallory Rubin (0.80 sure it was them)
Tim Robbins: 3 lines craft ×3
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craft (craft):
Tim Robbins → Bull Durham.
Tim Robbins's throwing motion is called insurmountable for a phenom pitcher; Mallory counters that it is part of the lore.
“You can't have the greatest baseball movie of all time when you have this phenom pitcher, and he throws like he has a broken arm.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:04:05 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Rocky: 2 lines theme ×1 lineage ×1
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lineage (lineage):
Bull Durham → Rocky.
Bull Durham took the Rocky motto a level further in how a sports movie is written.
“how can we take that rocky motto and actually go the next level with how we write a movie”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:51 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
Domestic Disturbance: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (craft):
Domestic Disturbance → Bull Durham.
The hooker's complaint is the reverse of Duke in Bull Durham wanting to read poetry all night.
“It's kind of like the reverse of in Bull Durham when Duke is like, we didn't fuck, man.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Domestic Disturbance’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:54:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Ron Shelton: 1 line career ×1
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career (career):
Ron Shelton → Bull Durham.
Writing Bull Durham is called Ron Shelton's biggest legacy.
“That's his biggest legacy.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:26:00 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘Domestic Disturbance’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey, first at 0:54:51, 1 time
- passing in The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag!, first at 0:15:14, 1 time
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson, first at 0:47:45, 2 times
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan, first at 1:30:13, 1 time
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘Internal Affairs’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan, first at 0:00:54, 1 time
- passing in The Rewatchables · 'The Player' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Wesley Morris, first at 1:14:05, 1 time
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin, first at 0:03:35, 14 times
What was said about it, by kind
career (1)
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career (career):
Ron Shelton → Bull Durham.
Writing Bull Durham is called Ron Shelton's biggest legacy.
“That's his biggest legacy.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:26:00 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
contrast (2)
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contrast (contrast):
The Natural → Bull Durham.
The Natural is about becoming a god among mortals; Bull Durham is about the opposite, never getting there.
“it's almost in some ways the complete opposite of the natural”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:05:01 · Mallory Rubin (0.70 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Natural → Bull Durham.
Mallory is drawn to the opposite of the Natural's premise: what if you can never get there, as with Crash Davis.
“I'm always, though, going to be slightly more drawn, I think, to the opposite, which is what if you can never get there?”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:05:18 · Mallory Rubin (0.80 sure it was them)
craft (4)
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craft (craft):
Domestic Disturbance → Bull Durham.
The hooker's complaint is the reverse of Duke in Bull Durham wanting to read poetry all night.
“It's kind of like the reverse of in Bull Durham when Duke is like, we didn't fuck, man.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Domestic Disturbance’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:54:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Tim Robbins → Bull Durham.
Bull Durham is the proposed namesake for a horrible-on-screen-athleticism flex category, though Tim Robbins is defended for his idiosyncratic windup.
“I nominate Tim Robbins as the namesake for Bull Durham.”
The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 0:15:14 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Tim Robbins → Bull Durham.
Tim Robbins's throwing motion is called insurmountable for a phenom pitcher; Mallory counters that it is part of the lore.
“You can't have the greatest baseball movie of all time when you have this phenom pitcher, and he throws like he has a broken arm.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:04:05 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Tim Robbins → Bull Durham.
Robbins's odd throw is half excused because he hurt his arm early in filming.
“because he actually threw out his arm early in the filming and that's why he throws that way”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:56:57 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
lineage (1)
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lineage (lineage):
Bull Durham → Rocky.
Bull Durham took the Rocky motto a level further in how a sports movie is written.
“how can we take that rocky motto and actually go the next level with how we write a movie”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:51 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
programming (1)
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programming (programming):
The Natural → Bull Durham.
Bull Durham is being saved for a magical time (heard as Boulder).
“Boulder, we're saving for when it's a really magical time.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 1:46:38 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
theme (1)
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theme (theme):
Rocky → Bull Durham.
The apex-mountain question: is Rocky or Bull Durham the peak for withholding sex while training?
“Is it this or Bull Durham?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:30:13 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
None.
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- Kevin Costner: actor (The Rewatchables, ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin)
- Ron Shelton: writer-director (The Rewatchables, ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin)
- Ron Shelton: writer-director (directing half) (The Rewatchables, ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin)
- Tim Robbins: actor (The Rewatchables, 'The Player' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Wesley Morris)
- Tim Robbins: actor (The Rewatchables, A CR Month Mailbag!)
- Tim Robbins: actor (pitcher with the throwing motion) (The Rewatchables, ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin)
- Susan Sarandon: actor, not nominated (The Rewatchables, ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson)