The King of Comedy (1982)
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Wikidata Q1122281, film, IMDb tt0085794, TMDB 262: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title; 6 more episodes agree.
What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.
The Rewatchables' awards
Picked in other episodes
- Double feature (pick) for Misery (1990): Settles the debate on the obsessed-fan pairing: King of Comedy and Misery. unknown · 1:20:11
Who talked about it
Blank Check with Griffin & David
- Julie Klausner: 1 line in Star 80 with Julie Klausner
- Unattributed: 4 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Blank Check — Patreon
The Big Picture
The Rewatchables
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Raging Bull: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (spiritual sequel):
Raging Bull ⇒ The King of Comedy (the host's read).
King of Comedy is a part-2 of sorts about a delusional comedian, echoing LaMotta's stand-up, and is part of a De Niro trilogy with Taxi Driver.
“There's the king of comedy, the spiritual sequel to Raging Bull.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:55:42 · unknown host (0.30 sure it was them)
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
After Hours: 1 line the maker said so ×1
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industry (studio retreat):
The King of Comedy ⇒ After Hours (the maker said so: Scorsese's quote, via Biskind).
King of Comedy bombing and Fox pulling it set up Scorsese's retreat to small-scale After Hours; he said 70s directors had lost to studios.
“And that was when I really understood that the 70s were over for me”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:18:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Connected to
After Hours: 3 lines verdict ×1 unmapped ×1 industry ×1
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industry (studio retreat):
The King of Comedy → After Hours.
King of Comedy bombing and Fox pulling it set up Scorsese's retreat to small-scale After Hours; he said 70s directors had lost to studios.
“And that was when I really understood that the 70s were over for me”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:18:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Raging Bull: 2 lines lineage ×1 unmapped ×1
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unmapped (next Scorsese film):
Raging Bull → The King of Comedy.
King of Comedy follows Raging Bull and is when Marty starts sweating about box office again.
“The next one, king of comedy, that's the one where I feel like Marty, again, is starting to sweat”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 2:05:42 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Eric Roberts: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (character lineage):
Eric Roberts → The King of Comedy.
Roberts's Snyder is seen as another version of what Rupert Pupkin could have been.
“I also think a group for Pupkin is another version of who this character could have been, but he was just following orders.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 0:02:19 · Julie Klausner (0.50 sure it was them)
Goodfellas: 1 line career ×1
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career (career):
Goodfellas → The King of Comedy.
Goodfellas was Scorsese's comeback after the King of Comedy flop and a pilloried stretch.
“he has this like comeback narrative with Goodfellows, which is financially successful, critically adored”
The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 0:28:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Misery: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (theme):
Misery → The King of Comedy.
Obsessed-fan movies: King of Comedy first, then Misery's Bates at the apex.
“Crazy obsessed fans in a movie?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman · 1:09:33 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
The Nightmare Before Christmas: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (theme):
The Nightmare Before Christmas → The King of Comedy.
Jack and Santa Claus are read as Rupert Pupkin and Jerry Langford (transcribed Pumpkin/Lanford).
“the relationship between Jack and Santa Claus, excuse me, is just Rupert Pumpkin and Jerry Lanford.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas with Michael Rianda (Ad-Free) · 1:57:52 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- passing in Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie, first at 0:20:36, 2 times
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan, first at 0:49:56, 3 times
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz, first at 0:21:24, 5 times
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz, first at 0:07:40, 5 times
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner, first at 0:02:19, 3 times
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey, first at 0:17:33, 5 times
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman, first at 1:09:36, 3 times
- recommended in The Rewatchables · ‘Do The Right Thing’ With Sean Fennessey and Wesley Morris, first at 0:33:10, 1 time
- passing in The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft, first at 0:28:03, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas with Michael Rianda (Ad-Free), first at 1:57:52, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Jedi, first at 0:58:28, 2 times
What was said about it, by kind
career (1)
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career (career):
Goodfellas → The King of Comedy.
Goodfellas was Scorsese's comeback after the King of Comedy flop and a pilloried stretch.
“he has this like comeback narrative with Goodfellows, which is financially successful, critically adored”
The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 0:28:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
industry (1)
-
industry (studio retreat):
The King of Comedy → After Hours.
King of Comedy bombing and Fox pulling it set up Scorsese's retreat to small-scale After Hours; he said 70s directors had lost to studios.
“And that was when I really understood that the 70s were over for me”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:18:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
lineage (2)
-
lineage (spiritual sequel):
The King of Comedy → Raging Bull.
King of Comedy is a part-2 of sorts about a delusional comedian, echoing LaMotta's stand-up, and is part of a De Niro trilogy with Taxi Driver.
“There's the king of comedy, the spiritual sequel to Raging Bull.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:55:42 · unknown host (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (character lineage):
Eric Roberts → The King of Comedy.
Roberts's Snyder is seen as another version of what Rupert Pupkin could have been.
“I also think a group for Pupkin is another version of who this character could have been, but he was just following orders.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 0:02:19 · Julie Klausner (0.50 sure it was them)
theme (2)
-
theme (theme):
Misery → The King of Comedy.
Obsessed-fan movies: King of Comedy first, then Misery's Bates at the apex.
“Crazy obsessed fans in a movie?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman · 1:09:33 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
The Nightmare Before Christmas → The King of Comedy.
Jack and Santa Claus are read as Rupert Pupkin and Jerry Langford (transcribed Pumpkin/Lanford).
“the relationship between Jack and Santa Claus, excuse me, is just Rupert Pumpkin and Jerry Lanford.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas with Michael Rianda (Ad-Free) · 1:57:52 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
unmapped (2)
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unmapped (rejuvenation):
The King of Comedy → After Hours.
After Hours rescued Scorsese after King of Comedy the way The Last Waltz followed New York, New York.
“Like last waltz is that after New York, New York, and this is that after King of comedy, where he needed to be saved a little.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 1:11:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (next Scorsese film):
Raging Bull → The King of Comedy.
King of Comedy follows Raging Bull and is when Marty starts sweating about box office again.
“The next one, king of comedy, that's the one where I feel like Marty, again, is starting to sweat”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 2:05:42 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
verdict (1)
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verdict (fan-ranking shift):
The King of Comedy → After Hours.
King of Comedy was once the not-like-other-fans Scorsese pick; fans have swung round to After Hours.
“for a while, uh, king of comedy was the, I'm not like the other Scorsese fans. And things have now, I think, swung around to after hours.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:21:24 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
None.
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- Martin Scorsese: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, After Hours with Alison Sivitz)
- Martin Scorsese: director (The Rewatchables, ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey)
- Martin Scorsese: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raging Bull with David Krumholtz)
- Martin Scorsese: director (The Big Picture, The 1990 Movie Draft)
- Robert De Niro: actor (The Rewatchables, ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey)
- Robert De Niro: actor (Rupert Pupkin) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raging Bull with David Krumholtz)
- Robert De Niro: actor (Pupkin) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Star 80 with Julie Klausner)
- Robert De Niro: actor (The Rewatchables, ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman)
- Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio: actor (extra, per Chris) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, The Color of Money with Chris Ryan)
- Sandra Bernhard: actor (The Rewatchables, ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey)