The Beatles

Made films the shows talk about.

Counted as composer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they scored, which the two lists below run through too: Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986); Hanging Up (2000); The Royal Tenenbaums (2001); Darkest Hour (2017).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Pan (2015): 2 lines

  1. career (career) · through Darkest Hour (2017), which they scored: Pan ⇒ Darkest Hour (the maker said so: Wright, on the show). Wright says Pan's failure and his own doubt are what made the doubt-ridden Churchill script resonate.
    “I had made a film called Pan, which had lost about $100 million, and had been slated, really, by most everyone, and I was suffering my own crisis of confidence”
    The Big Picture · Joe Wright Bounces Back From His Darkest Hour | The Big Picture (Ep. 37) · 0:02:29 · Joe Wright (0.95 sure it was them)
  2. career (career) · through Darkest Hour (2017), which they scored: Pan ⇒ Darkest Hour (the maker said so: Wright, on the show). After Pan he decided he was not cut out for big studio movies and wanted to return to his wheelhouse.
    “I realized after Pan that I wasn't cut out necessarily for the kind of big studio movies, and I wanted to return to something that was closer to my wheelhouse.”
    The Big Picture · Joe Wright Bounces Back From His Darkest Hour | The Big Picture (Ep. 37) · 0:03:05 · Joe Wright (0.95 sure it was them)

48 Hrs. (1982): 1 line

  1. craft (comedic device) · through Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986), which they scored: 48 Hrs. ⇒ Ferris Bueller's Day Off (the host's read). Ferris's impersonation bit is the suburban white guy riff on Eddie Murphy in 48 Hrs.
    “it's the suburban white guy riff on, on, uh, Eddie Murphy in torchies in 48 hours, right?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:37:28 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them)

Andrei Tarkovsky: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Darkest Hour (2017), which they scored: Andrei Tarkovsky ⇒ Darkest Hour (the maker said so: Wright, on the show). Wright wants his work called cinematic and cites Tarkovsky's 'sculpting in time'.
    “as Tarkovsky put it, sculpting in time.”
    The Big Picture · Joe Wright Bounces Back From His Darkest Hour | The Big Picture (Ep. 37) · 0:15:27 · Joe Wright (0.95 sure it was them)

Anna Karenina: 1 line

  1. contrast (contrast) · through Darkest Hour (2017), which they scored: Anna Karenina ⇒ Darkest Hour (the maker said so: Wright, on the show). Darkest Hour's stripped-back look is a reaction against Pan and Anna Karenina.
    “as a kind of reaction to what I've been doing before, including Pan, but also, you know, Anna Karenina and movies like that.”
    The Big Picture · Joe Wright Bounces Back From His Darkest Hour | The Big Picture (Ep. 37) · 0:04:41 · Joe Wright (0.95 sure it was them)

Francois Truffaut: 1 line

  1. lineage (influence) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored: Francois Truffaut ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read). French New Wave influence.
    “Francois Truffaux, Sholu Qadar, the French New Wave.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald · 1:15:59 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

French New Wave: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored: French New Wave ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read). Combines the emotionality and cutting style of French new wave with the rawness of 70s American cinema.
    “You've got 70s American cinema and you've also got 60s French new wave.”
    The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:06:33 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored: From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read). The vibe of that kid-runaway book imbues the first 40 minutes, including the narration and child-genius portraiture.
    “the whole vibe of that book is imbued in the 1st 40 minutes of this movie, most of the narration, most of the young Tenenbaum's portraiture of these 3 child geniuses.”
    The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:05:56 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Harold and Maud: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored: Harold and Maud ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read). Off-kilter characterization, 70s feel, overcoats, and suicide attempts; in the bloodstream of Tenenbaums and Squid and the Whale.
    “Harold and Maud is very much in the bloodstream of, of, the Royal Ten of bombs and Squid and the whale.”
    The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:37:40 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Jean-Luc Godard: 1 line

  1. lineage (influence) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored: Jean-Luc Godard ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the maker said so: Matt Zoller Seitz's book on the movie). The mosaic of book covers was inspired by a Godard movie doing something similar.
    “he was inspired by, I think it was a Godard movie that did something similar, of course.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald · 0:53:10 · Andy Greenwald (0.50 sure it was them)

John Hughes: 1 line

  1. people (auteur culmination) · through Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986), which they scored: John Hughes ⇒ Ferris Bueller's Day Off (the host's read). Cameron is the culmination of five years of Hughes teen movies trying to get that character right.
    “the Cameron character is a culmination of 5 years of John Hughes teen movies, him trying to get this character correct, and then I feel like he finally did.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:04:56 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them)

Louis Malle: 1 line

  1. lineage (influence) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored: Louis Malle ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read). French New Wave directors listed among its influences.
    “some of the influences on this movie include films by Louis Maule. Um, uh, Francois Truffaux, Sholu Qadar, the French New Wave.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald · 1:15:51 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Max Richter: 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through Darkest Hour (2017), which they scored: Max Richter ⇒ Darkest Hour (the maker said so: Wright speaking of his own film on the show). Wright says he wanted a cinematic equivalent of the minimalist music he was listening to, including Max Richter.
    “I was also listening to a lot of minimalist music at the time, Max Richter and Niels Fram and, of course, the great Philip Glass and so on.”
    The Big Picture · Joe Wright Bounces Back From His Darkest Hour | The Big Picture (Ep. 37) · 0:05:00 · Joe Wright (0.95 sure it was them)

Nils Frahm: 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through Darkest Hour (2017), which they scored: Nils Frahm ⇒ Darkest Hour (the maker said so: Wright speaking of his own film on the show). Wright says he wanted a cinematic equivalent of the minimalist music he was listening to, including Nils Frahm.
    “I was also listening to a lot of minimalist music at the time, Max Richter and Niels Fram and, of course, the great Philip Glass and so on.”
    The Big Picture · Joe Wright Bounces Back From His Darkest Hour | The Big Picture (Ep. 37) · 0:05:00 · Joe Wright (0.95 sure it was them)

Philip Glass: 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through Darkest Hour (2017), which they scored: Philip Glass ⇒ Darkest Hour (the maker said so: Wright, on the show). Wright aimed for a cinematic equivalent of minimalist music by Richter, Frahm and Glass.
    “I wanted to try and achieve some kind of cinematic aesthetic equivalent to that music.”
    The Big Picture · Joe Wright Bounces Back From His Darkest Hour | The Big Picture (Ep. 37) · 0:05:08 · Joe Wright (0.95 sure it was them)

The Catcher in the Rye / Franny and Zooey: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored: The Catcher in the Rye / Franny and Zooey ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read). Salinger's Glass-family stories are the key literary influence.
    “Zoe is like the key influence on this film”
    The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:05:35 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

The Magnificent Ambersons (1942): 1 line

  1. lineage (influence) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored: The Magnificent Ambersons ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read). Named as a huge influence; rewatching Ambersons shows how much of it is in Tenenbaums.
    “it's wild how much, uh, ten bombs or how much Amberson's is in ten bombs.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald · 1:16:15 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Easy A (2010): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986), which they scored: Ferris Bueller's Day Off ⇒ Easy A (the maker said so). Director Will Gluck has said Ferris Bueller is his favorite movie, and Olive's Mohawk and guitar bits echo it.
    “I think the director, Will Gluck, has like talked about how Ferris Bueller is, I think, his favorite movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Easy A’ With Juliet Litman, Amanda Dobbins, and Shea Serrano · 0:12:38 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)

Home Alone (1990): 1 line

  1. unmapped (dry run) · through Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986), which they scored: Ferris Bueller's Day Off ⇒ Home Alone (the host's read). Rooney getting beaten up by the house is Hughes's dry run for Home Alone.
    “Hughes has like a dry run for home alone when when Rooney goes to the house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:19:48 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)

Parker Lewis Can't Lose (1990): 1 line

  1. unmapped (derivative) · through Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986), which they scored: Ferris Bueller's Day Off ⇒ Parker Lewis Can't Lose (the host's read). Parker Lewis Can't Lose is essentially Ferris Bueller and preferred over the actual TV adaptation.
    “do you guys prefer the Ferris Bueller TV adaptation or Parker Lewis Can't Lose, which is essentially just Ferris Bueller?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:15:08 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

The Ferris Bueller Show (TV, 1990): 1 line

  1. lineage (adaptation) · through Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986), which they scored: Ferris Bueller's Day Off ⇒ The Ferris Bueller Show (TV, 1990) (the host's read). A 1990 NBC series with Jennifer Aniston as Jeanie, which the hosts call bad.
    “The Ferris Bueller Show, 1990, NBC.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:14:56 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014): 1 line

  1. verdict (verdict) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored: The Royal Tenenbaums ⇒ The Grand Budapest Hotel (the host's read). Grand Budapest is the best alternative case for the Anderson slot, but it could not exist without Tenenbaums' blueprint.
    “Um, but Grand Budapest does not exist.”
    The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:38:16 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Music (4) everyone in music

What was said about them, by kind

craft (1)

  1. craft (craft): The Beatles → The Royal Tenenbaums. The opening montage, narrated by Alec Baldwin, is set to an orchestral Hey Jude.
    “it's a Alec Baldwin narrated, as we said, set to Hey Jude, magical mystery tour, through the lives of people we had never heard of.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald · 0:43:37 · Andy Greenwald (0.60 sure it was them)

theme (1)

  1. theme (theme): Stephen King → The Beatles. King was the biggest writer in the world as the Beatles were the biggest band.
    “He was the biggest writer in the world in the way that the Beatles were the biggest band in the world.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman · 0:03:45 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)

unmapped (1)

  1. unmapped (fandom scale): Eddie Murphy → The Beatles. Fandom around young Murphy was Beatles-esque, built on records and comedy specials.
    “the fandom around him is like, it was Beatles-esque.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:25:22 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

  1. fun, about The Beatles: Gray wonders if the Beatles would have landed as big without Kennedy's assassination: success depends on history.
    “and Ed Sullivan in February of 64, been greeted with such rapturousness”
    The Big Picture · ‘The Lost City of Z’ Director James Gray | The Big Picture (Ep. 9) · 0:19:22 · James Gray (0.90 sure it was them)