Henry Rollins
Made films the shows talk about.
Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Heat (1995); Panic Room (2002).
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Thief (1981): 4 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Heat (1995), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Thief ⇒ Heat (the maker said so: the Siegel piece, Caan telling Pacino).
Caan said scenes cut from Thief went to Heat.
“All the scenes that weren't used in our picture came over to you guys.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:15:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Heat (1995), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Thief ⇒ Heat (the host's read).
The diner scene's wide shot echoes Heat's, which never shows both guys.
“Wide shot, some heat DNA, although in heat, they don't have, you never see the 2 guys”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:36:13 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Heat (1995), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Thief ⇒ Heat (the host's read).
Thief is the notebook sketch for Mann's later work, with Heat sharing DNA.
“the building blocks for what you wind up seeing in heat and collateral and Miami Vice in so many of his films to come.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:02:54 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Thief ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
Fincher may have watched Thief before Panic Room.
“Fincher does panic room and he probably saw Thief like 2 weeks before he started filming”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:40:36 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Fight Club (1999): 3 lines
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career (career) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
Panic Room read as a small antidote to the response to Fight Club.
“This seemed like a little bit of an antidote to that because what's panic room about.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:19:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
The inside-the-house camera moves Fincher started in Fight Club are fully developed in Panic Room.
“And there's a lot of like stuff that he had started to do a little bit with Fight Club is like really like fleshed out in panic room”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:20:53 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them) -
unmapped (response to) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
A host says Panic Room is a conscious response to Fight Club, which flopped and tried to be about everything.
“Yes. And I feel like it's a very conscious response to fight club.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 0:24:52 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Fargo (1996): 1 line
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unmapped (model for the villains) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Fargo ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
A host feels Panic Room's funny villain and scary villain pair uses the Buscemi and Stormare model from Fargo.
“But I'm realizing how much wisely it does feel like they're sort of using the model of Bushemi and Stoneman.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 2:20:45 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Jodie Foster: 1 line
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unmapped (led to) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Jodie Foster ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
The Game casting fell through, and Panic Room happened because she still wanted to work with Fincher.
“Panic room ends up happening because of how badly she still wanted to work with Venture”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:56:56 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Rear Window (1954): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Rear Window ⇒ Panic Room (the maker said so: Fincher's quotes the host reads).
Fincher saw it as a cross between Rear Window and Straw Dogs.
“So Fitcher saw panic group as a cross between rear window and straw dogs.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:17:38 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Sling Blade (1996): 1 line
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people (led to casting) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Sling Blade ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
A host says Yoakam was cast in Panic Room off of Sling Blade.
“That was kind of what he got cast off over.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 1:02:00 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Straw Dogs (1971): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Straw Dogs ⇒ Panic Room (the maker said so: Fincher's quotes the host reads).
Fincher saw it as a cross between Rear Window and Straw Dogs (Peckinpah).
“So Fitcher saw panic group as a cross between rear window and straw dogs.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:17:38 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
The Silence of the Lambs (1991): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
The Silence of the Lambs ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
The switcheroo with the dad and Raoul is a little Silence of the Lambs homage.
“A little silence of lambs homage.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:53:47 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Ambulance (2022): 1 line
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lineage (homage) · through Heat (1995), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Heat ⇒ Ambulance (the host's read).
Chris says the first half of Ambulance is Michael Bay trying to make Heat, before the second half becomes a great chase movie.
“The 1st half of this movie is basically like Michael Bay being like, I want to make heat.”
The Big Picture · The 2022 Movie Draft · 1:06:53 · Chris Ryan (0.80 sure it was them)
Flight Plan: 1 line
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unmapped (template for) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Panic Room ⇒ Flight Plan (the host's read).
A host says Panic Room set the template for what looked like Foster's next phase of adult thrillers.
“And I do think it's sort of set a template for what felt like, oh, this is Jody Foster's next phase that then went sort of died prematurely.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 0:01:44 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Michael Mann: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Heat (1995), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Heat ⇒ Michael Mann (the maker said so: Mann publicly talking about it).
Mann has said he wants to adapt his Heat novel as a sequel and prequel to Heat.
“he's been publicly talking about his desire to find a way to adapt his novel of heat to the sequel and prequel to heat.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:08:38 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018): 1 line
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unmapped (set the template for) · through Panic Room (2002), which they were tied to as what-if Raoul:
Panic Room ⇒ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (the host's read).
A host says Fincher's all-previs approach on this film created the pipeline for how blockbusters are made.
“But that disc 2 is so much about that he basically created the pipeline for how all fucking blockbusters are made on this movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 0:31:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Other (2) everyone in other
- what-if Raoul, Panic Room (The Rewatchables, ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- what-if Raoul, Heat (The Rewatchables, ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
What was said about them, by kind
what-if (1)
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what-if (what-if):
Panic Room → Henry Rollins.
Because Heat keeps coming up, Rollins would have been good as an enforcer.
“This would have been a good role for Rollins.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:14:20 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
None.