The Big Picture: ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies
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The extraction calls the show “The Big Picture (The Ringer)” and the episode “'Ferrari' and Top Five Michael Mann Movies”.
Hosts: Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins. Guests: Chris Ryan.
Subject films: Ferrari (2023).
On the transcript: No speaker labels; some Rewatchables references are garbled and ad blocks sit at 0:00-0:01:30, 0:41:13-0:43:30 and after 1:05:36. Speaker attribution is inferred from the top-five rankings and direct address.
Films that came up
subject (1)
passing (17)
The Wire · Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story · Public Enemies · The Pelican Brief · Prometheus · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · Prisoners · White Noise · Pulp Fiction · Clueless · Once Upon a Time in Hollywood · Hannibal · Gladiator · Goodfellas · Triple Frontier · Aquaman 2 · The Iron Claw
compared (15)
Napoleon · Heat · Bohemian Rhapsody · Last of the Mohicans · Black Hat · The Insider · Thief · Collateral · Miami Vice · Steve Jobs · Killers of the Flower Moon · The Martian · Manhunter · The Silence of the Lambs · Babylon
dismissed (3)
65 · Apollo 13 · Sense and Sensibility
recommended (1)
Claims (65)
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career (career):
Ferrari → Sydney Pollack.
Mann began talking with Sydney Pollack about Ferrari in the 90s.
“I guess he started talking with Sidney Pollock about this movie in the 90s”
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lineage (lineage):
Ferrari → Brock Yates.
Ferrari adapts the Brock Yates book on Enzo Ferrari.
“by Brock Yates”
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people (people):
Ferrari → Troy Kennedy Martin.
Troy Kennedy Martin wrote the screenplay and died in 2009.
“Troy Kennedy Martin, the man who wrote the screenplay for this film, passed away in 2009”
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lineage (lineage):
Michael Mann → Heat.
Mann has said he wants to adapt his Heat novel as a sequel and prequel to Heat.
“he's been publicly talking about his desire to find a way to adapt his novel of heat to the sequel and prequel to heat.”
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people (people):
Michael Mann → Adam Driver.
Mann has begun a love affair with Driver like many auteurs in the last ten years.
“He's obviously begun a love affair, like so many Otours in the last 10 years have with Adam Driver”
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contrast (contrast):
Ferrari → Bohemian Rhapsody.
Ferrari is a man of contradictions, not a flawless-icon biopic like Bohemian Rhapsody.
“this isn't Bohemian Rhapsody, you know, it's not just like, God, Freddie Mercury is perfect.”
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theme (theme):
Ferrari → Heat.
Ferrari carries Mann's themes of men pushing themselves to greatness with their obsessions.
“men pushing themselves as hard as they can with the tools that they are obsessed with to achieve greatness”
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career (career):
The Last of the Mohicans → Black Hat.
Mann's look ranges from the classical Mohicans to the pinhole cameras of Black Hat.
“this sort of classical look of last the Mohicans all the way to the, you know, the sort of pinhole cameras of black hat.”
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craft (craft):
Ferrari → The Insider.
Ferrari has the best script Mann has worked with since The Insider.
“this has the best script he's worked with since insider”
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career (career):
Ferrari → Thief.
The dialogue-driven Ferrari returns to the writing that made his films from Thief through the early 2000s.
“starting with thief all the way roughly through like the early 2000s, like his signature movies.”
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career (career):
Ferrari → Black Hat.
Ferrari fuses the classical Mann with the digital abstractions of Black Hat, per critic Bilge Ebiri.
“the digital abstractions of black hat and public enemies and Miami Vice and collateral”
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career (career):
Ferrari → Public Enemies.
Ferrari fuses the classical Mann with the digital abstractions of Public Enemies, per critic Bilge Ebiri.
“the digital abstractions of black hat and public enemies and Miami Vice and collateral”
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career (career):
Ferrari → Miami Vice.
Ferrari fuses the classical Mann with the digital abstractions of Miami Vice, per critic Bilge Ebiri.
“the digital abstractions of black hat and public enemies and Miami Vice and collateral”
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career (career):
Ferrari → Collateral.
Ferrari fuses the classical Mann with the digital abstractions of Collateral, per critic Bilge Ebiri.
“the digital abstractions of black hat and public enemies and Miami Vice and collateral”
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programming (programming):
Black Hat → The Rewatchables.
Sean and Chris did a Rewatchables episode on Black Hat that Amanda hadn't heard.
“I didn't hear that one.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:13:24 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them) -
programming (programming):
Heat → The Rewatchables.
Chris listened to the Reheat Rewatchables episode, celebrating 100 episodes, the morning of recording.
“I also listened to the reheat this morning”
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contrast (contrast):
Ferrari → Napoleon.
Ferrari's compressed few-months structure is what Napoleon should have been.
“This is what Napoleon should have been.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:14:39 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Ferrari → Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs did the compression idea best among recent biopics, and Mann's compressed 1957 setting for Ferrari is ingenious.
“Steve Jobs obviously had, maybe, maybe did the best job of this by kind of splitting the, the atom”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:15:43 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Ferrari → Killers of the Flower Moon.
Ferrari's quick impressionistic opening flashback recalls the silent-film-style opening of Killers of the Flower Moon.
“it reminded me a bit of the opening sequence of the Killers of the Flower Moon, where it's kind of shot in this old school, like silent film style.”
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theme (theme):
Michael Mann → Ferrari.
Enzo Ferrari, with his department heads and team who report to him, reads as a stand-in for Michael Mann the filmmaker.
“Enzo Ferrari is Michael Mann.”
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career (career):
Penelope Cruz → Pedro Almodovar.
Cruz's best work is in Almodovar films, and Ferrari is her closest American approach to that.
“this felt the closest she had gotten to an Almodivar performance in an American production.”
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craft (craft):
Ferrari → Heat.
Penelope Cruz's let-it-rip scene with Driver recalls Diane Venora in Heat.
“it reminded me a little bit of Dina Vanora in heat where she's just like letting it loose.”
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what-if (what-if):
Ferrari → Christian Bale.
Bale was the original Ferrari, identified by Pollack and Mann, but stepped aside rather than gain weight.
“originally when the film was being conceived, Sidney Pollock and Michael Mann had identified Christian Bale as Ferrari.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:26:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Ferrari → Noomi Rapace.
Noomi Rapace was attached to Ferrari alongside Jackman in 2017.
“in 2017, Hugh Jackman and Numi Rapas were going to join the film.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:27:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Noomi Rapace → Prometheus.
Prometheus would have been 9 percent better with Amy Seimetz or Katherine Waterston in Rapace's role.
“It's like if Amy Simitz or Catherine Waterston had done Prometheus in the Numi Repos role.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:27:35 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Ferrari → Hugh Jackman.
Hugh Jackman was going to play Ferrari in 2017; Sean thinks it would have been wrong but interesting.
“Hugh Jackman was going to play Ferrari.”
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craft (craft):
Hugh Jackman → Prisoners.
Prisoners is the one time Jackman taps the internal rage Ferrari needs.
“Taps that into that in prisoners.”
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verdict (verdict):
Adam Driver → Ferrari.
Sean calls Driver's Ferrari the best performance he saw this year, a movie-star performance.
“this is the best performance I saw this year”
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career (career):
Adam Driver → White Noise.
Driver's resume is daring, but he sometimes makes a puzzling pick like White Noise.
“white noise.”
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career (career):
Adam Driver → 65.
Driver took a weaker film in 65 while waiting for a good movie like Ferrari.
“65 was pretty stupid.”
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career (career):
Ferrari → Thief.
Mann's arc from James Caan's laborer in Thief to Ferrari the CEO is a late-career transformation.
“he sees himself as this as the James Conn character and thief, a laborer.”
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industry (industry):
Michael Mann → Martin Scorsese.
Mann is not getting the Viking funeral Scorsese is getting.
“it just doesn't seem like he's getting the Viking funeral that Scorsese is getting”
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programming (programming):
Ferrari → The Martian.
Ferrari feels like a late-summer release that should have had The Martian's slot, not Christmas.
“This felt like it should have had the Martian spot.”
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unmapped (audience):
Ferrari → Heat.
Chris's dad will definitely want to see Ferrari because he loves Heat.
“He will definitely want to see Ferrari loves heat.”
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lineage (lineage):
Miami Vice → Calderone's Return.
Calderone's Return is the 1984 Miami Vice double episode that the Rewatchables did.
“How do you feel about Calderon's return, the double episode of Miami Vice from 1984.”
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verdict (verdict):
Heat → Apollo 13.
On the Reheat they listed movies that got 1995 Oscar nominations instead of Heat, including Apollo 13.
“nominated for Oscars instead of heat, including Apollo 13”
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verdict (verdict):
Heat → Natalie Portman.
Natalie Portman in Heat is teased as the overacting award winner.
“a young Natalie Portman getting the overacting award”
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verdict (verdict):
Heat → Joanna Hogg.
Director Joanna Hogg named Heat the last great thing she'd seen.
“she said heat”
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industry (industry):
Collateral → Michael Mann.
Collateral was the first digital experiment, and many lesser directors have tried to copy it.
“so many shitty directors have tried to do what this movie does”
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craft (craft):
Collateral → Tom Cruise.
Collateral is a great two-hander with Cruise playing against type as the heavy.
“playing against type and playing the heavy”
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craft (craft):
Ferrari → Collateral.
Collateral's one-night compression is the same pleasure as Ferrari's compression.
“I think much like Ferrari, the compression.”
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theme (theme):
Collateral → Clueless.
Collateral is part of Amanda's movie map of Los Angeles, with Clueless and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
“my movie map of LA is probably like clueless collateral, uh, once upon a time in Hollywood”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:45:20 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
Collateral → Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Collateral is part of Amanda's movie map of Los Angeles, with Clueless and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
“my movie map of LA is probably like clueless collateral, uh, once upon a time in Hollywood”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:45:20 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
Collateral → Heat.
Collateral pairs Tom Cruise with Jamie Foxx the way Heat pairs two titans, Pacino and De Niro.
“in the same way that heat is like Pacino and De Niro, like together, finally, like 2 Titans of movies in our life.”
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craft (craft):
Collateral → Miles Davis.
Collateral features Miles Davis and Audioslave, and Cruise talks about jazz in one of the weirdest scenes of the 2000s.
“Tom Cruise talking about his appreciation for jazz”
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verdict (verdict):
Ferrari → Miami Vice.
Sean puts Ferrari and Miami Vice in the same zone: much to recommend, with a few choices that derail it.
“I think Miami Vice and Ferrari are kind of right in the same zone.”
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lineage (lineage):
Manhunter → Thomas Harris.
Manhunter is Mann's Thomas Harris adaptation.
“Um, the Thomas Harris adaptation.”
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lineage (lineage):
Manhunter → The Silence of the Lambs.
Silence of the Lambs and the Hannibal Lecter universe come in the aftermath of Manhunter.
“Obviously, like Silence of the Lambs and the expanded Hannibal Lecter universe comes in the aftermath of this”
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career (career):
Manhunter → Michael Mann.
Manhunter is the beginning of the man-staring-at-the-ocean phase of Mann.
“this is kind of the beginning of the man staring at the ocean, wondering about the universe phase of Michael Mann.”
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career (career):
Manhunter → Heat.
Manhunter is the movie Chris has rewatched the most apart from Heat.
“It is probably the movie I've returned to the most over the years other than heat”
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programming (programming):
Manhunter → The Silence of the Lambs.
Chris pairs Manhunter with Silence of the Lambs on his annual rewatch.
“I think I often pair it with Silence of the Lambs.”
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theme (theme):
Manhunter → Elmore Leonard.
The Florida Keys setting evokes a lot of Elmore Leonard and Carl Hiaasen territory.
“there's a lot of Elmore Leonard stuff down there, a lot of Carl Hyasen stuff down there.”
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contrast (contrast):
Thief → Heat.
Thief's characters are still figuring out their lives, unlike the end-of-the-road Pacino and Venora of Heat.
“It's like much different than like Diane Venora, Al Pacino, and he.”
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people (people):
Thief → James Caan.
Caan is one of Chris's five favorite actors and suits the machismo of Mann's leads.
“James Kahn is one of my 5 favorite actors”
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lineage (lineage):
Thief → Ridley Scott.
On the Rewatchables they joked about whether Mann invented wetting the streets, with Ridley Scott dumping water.
“Remember Ridley Scott just dumping water on the streets.”
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people (people):
The Insider → Lowell Bergman.
Lowell Bergman is the real person behind the Al Pacino character.
“the Al Pacino character in real life.”
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theme (theme):
The Insider → The Pelican Brief.
Joking pair of journalism movies that brought down administrations or cigarettes.
“Pelican Breeds good point.”
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lineage (lineage):
The Insider → Sydney Pollack.
The Insider is described as a Sydney Pollack movie with more tension, angst and masculinity.
“this is a Sydney Pollock movie.”
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people (people):
The Insider → Al Pacino.
Insider has one of the last truly god-tier Pacino performances.
“one of the last truly, truly god tier Pacino performances”
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people (people):
The Insider → Gladiator.
Russell Crowe inverts his Gladiator body into a dad bod in The Insider.
“changing his gladiator bod to dad bod.”
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theme (theme):
Miami Vice → Black Hat.
Both have messy, stitched-together production histories, a hallmark of the last 15 years of Mann's career.
“when you see black hat, you're like, this definitely feels stitched together in strange ways.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:57:49 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Miami Vice → Michael Mann.
Miami Vice is the apex of Mann's digital filmmaking and hugely influential on newer filmmakers.
“is obviously just been a hugely influential movie for a lot of, uh, newer filmmakers.”
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theme (theme):
Miami Vice → Babylon.
Chris likes reclamation projects, films that critics first dismissed, as he does Miami Vice.
“I like reclamation projects.”
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career (career):
The Last of the Mohicans → Michael Mann.
Mohicans becomes an outlier in Mann's filmography because of the direction he took afterward.
“it winds up becoming more of an outlier because of the direction he went in afterwards.”
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people (people):
The Last of the Mohicans → Daniel Day-Lewis.
Daniel Day-Lewis at his hottest is part of the pitch for Mohicans.
“Danley Lewis at his hottest.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 1:02:53 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items (31)
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fun, about
Ferrari:
Sean calls Chris his deadly passion and Amanda his terrible joy, using lines from Ferrari's speech.
“Who's your deadly passion and who is your terrible joy?”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:02:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Ferrari:
Italians grumbled after the Venice screening; Sean jokes they were Frank Sabotka, saying we used to make things in this country.
“They were like, we used to make shit in this country.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:02:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Ferrari:
Chris on Heat: giving birth to a beautiful life in your hands, and that life is Heat; Neil McCauley baby in a crisp white shirt.
“I'll never give birth, but it's the closest. It's what I imagine it's like.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:03:50 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Ferrari:
Coined on air: Ferrari as a microscope biopic, a few months of one year instead of a life span.
“Ferrari is what I'm calling, um, a microscope biopic.”
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fun, about
Ferrari:
Ferrari's domestic scenes also go fast, with people negotiating deadlines like postponing a baptism.
“well, we'll just put off the baptism.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:11:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Ferrari:
The dialogue is deep enough to reward repeat viewings; a different pleasure from Mann's visual style.
“I thought the dialogue was wonderful in this movie”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:12:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Ferrari:
The church scene: men at mass hear the Maserati starter gun and pull out stopwatches; funnier than watching cars go around.
“all of the men pull out stop watches in church and hit them”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:18:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Ferrari:
Shailene Woodley is wildly miscast; her Italian accent drops to Marin County lady; the alternative-modalities joke.
“Will you please write a monograph about the word of Shaley Woodley, alternative modalities.”
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fun, about
Ferrari:
The ages: Driver is 39 playing 59, Cruz 49 playing 59, Woodley 32 playing a woman with a son who is about to be confirmed.
“Well, no, he's about to be confirmed.”
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fun, about
Ferrari:
Hugh Jackman and Noomi Rapace were once attached; Chris says Rapace is black licorice to him.
“Numirapas is black licorice to me.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:27:15 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Ferrari:
The pre-race team scolding speech is the most Michael Mann speech in years; deadly passion, terrible joy.
“We all know it's our deadly passion, our terrible joy.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:31:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Ferrari:
Box office worry: wardrobe, a white sweater and yellow car on blue cobblestones, maybe 17 percent of viewers care.
“And maybe 17% of the people watching Ferrari are going to give a shit about that.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:36:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Ferrari:
Chris's dad is the number one churn guy who would subscribe to Crunchyroll for a month to watch Heat.
“for crunchy roll for one month to watch heat on it.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:38:15 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Heat:
On the Reheat they went through the 1995 Oscar nominees; best actress doesn't really apply in Heat.
“well, best actress doesn't really apply in heat.”
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fun, about
Collateral:
The birthplace of 'Yo homie'; 'is that my briefcase' is the favorite line reading of 2004.
“The birthplace of Yohomie.”
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fun, about
Collateral:
Mark Ruffalo with a goatee, partnered with Pete Berg, tracks Max and Vincent.
“A brief appearance of Mark Ruffalo with a goatee.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:44:25 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Collateral:
Mann stared daggers at Sean and Bill Simmons when they asked how you get from LAX to downtown in 20 minutes.
“he just stared daggers at us.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:46:41 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Manhunter:
Wildly emotional, abstract, almost psychedelic; a yearly annual watch for Chris.
“It's almost like a yearly annual watch for me.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:50:00 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Thief:
The punk rock Mann movie; the last time he feels young.
“this is the last time he feels like young.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:51:55 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Thief:
Blue-collar thief line about money in the pocket echoed by strikers outside Netflix during the writers and actors strike.
“I can see my money is still in your pocket”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:53:01 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Insider:
Mann's journalism movie: dirt bag suits instead of dirtbag cops; the Christopher Plummer scene, 'Try Mr. Wallace.'
“Try Mr. Wallace.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:55:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Insider:
Amanda would have had it higher except for her deep love of cigarettes; Mann brought down cigarettes.
“for my deep love of cigarettes.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:56:55 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Miami Vice:
Production chaos: Colin Farrell doesn't remember making it, and there was a real shootout in Panama.
“Colin Farrell doesn't remember making this movie”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:57:30 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Miami Vice:
The go-fast boat scene: Colin Farrell takes Gong Li to Havana for mojitos.
“he drives around a go fast boat to Havana.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:58:55 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Miami Vice:
Chris saw Miami Vice in the theater with Sean, who said 'dog, no' on day one; the Mogwai opening.
“Chris and I saw it together and I was like, dog, no.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 0:59:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Heat:
Heat hosts joke: Chris should take shrooms before the foreheat pod or work for a triad.
“maybe take shrooms before the pod.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 1:00:29 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Heat:
Amanda rewatched Heat for work; her husband sat down and watched the whole movie, so Mann brings her closer to people she loves.
“once again, I think Michael Mann, for bringing me closer to the people I love.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 1:01:23 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Heat:
The downtown shootout is among the best set pieces ever and one of the loudest movies.
“Something I always think about, particularly the downtown shootout”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 1:01:34 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Heat:
The characters have a hard time saying how they feel; Amanda is more of a Neil, Sean an Owl, Natalie Portman looking for her earring.
“I think that I like to walk into rooms and just let it all hang out, you know?”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 1:02:13 · Chris Ryan (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Last of the Mohicans:
Gift number five: Sean says see it in a rep theater; the score is gorgeous.
“If you ever get a chance to see this in a rep theater, please go see it.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 1:02:47 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Big Picture:
A joke at the end: a live audition for the next producer, plus plans for an Iron Claw episode and a possible New Year's Eve Aquaman 2 solo.
“Raw audio. Maybe we should have a live audition for the next producer of the big picture.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies · 1:05:24 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Who's talking
- Sean Fennessey (host): Loves the Mann of Thief and The Insider, and the dialogue-rich classical side. Has struggled with Mann's last 15 years, calling Miami Vice and Ferrari kin. Sucker for lists and the Mann mythology.
- Amanda Dobbins (host): Likes Ferrari for its physicality and immersion and Penelope Cruz; The Insider is her number one. Allergic to poor casting and loves things that go fast. Sucker for Europe locations and Adam Driver.
- Chris Ryan (guest): Heat is his number one and Manhunter his yearly rewatch; likes messy reclamation projects like Miami Vice. Loves Ferrari and thinks Mann went out on a high note. Big on the 'fusion' of classical and digital Mann.
The show's recurring bits
- Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
- Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
- Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.
Names the transcriber got wrong
- Sean Fantasy = Sean Fennessey
- Shaylene/Jalen/Shalene Woodley = Shailene Woodley
- Lenug = Lina (Lina Lardi)
- Mil Emilia / Amelia = Mille Miglia
- Bill J Abiri = Bilge Ebiri
- Numi Rapas/Numir Pasa = Noomi Rapace
- Amy Simitz = Amy Seimetz
- Catherine Waterston = Katherine Waterston
- Sidney Pollock = Sydney Pollack
- Dina Vanora / Diana Vanora = Diane Venora
- Robert Proskeys / Proski = Robert Prosky
- Lil Bergman = Lowell Bergman
- Lindsay Krause = Lindsay Crouse
- Debbie Mazar = Debi Mazar
- Danley Lewis = Daniel Day-Lewis
- West Studi = Wes Studi
- Carl Hyasen = Carl Hiaasen
- Calderon's return = Calderone's Return
- Tremfaya = Tremfya (ad)
- Penalty cruise = Penelope Cruz
- sentences Billy = Sense and Sensibility (guess)
- Thomas McQueen = John D. MacDonald? (uncertain)
- Almo Dovar = Almodovar
- Chris Scherolis = Chris Shiherlis
- Dewey Cock = Dewey Cox
- Black Hat shown as Blackat