The Big Picture: The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun!
Published 2026-08-14; 1:57:30 by the feed.
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The extraction calls the show “The Big Picture (The Ringer)” and the episode “The Final Girl Film Canon and 'Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma' With Gillian Anderson…”.
Hosts: Sean Fennessey, Adam Nayman (guest co-host for the first segment; transcribed 'Adam Neiman'). Guests: Jane Schoenbrun, Hannah Einbinder, Gillian Anderson.
Subject films: Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma (2026).
On the transcript: No speaker labels and in the first segment Sean and Adam interleave with no clear turn markers, so segment-1 attributions are low confidence. Amanda Dobbins is not present; the episode intro says Sean is joined by Adam, and interview speakers (Jane, Hannah, Gillian) are inferred from content.
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- Adam 'Neiman' assumed to be critic Adam Nayman (spelling and Toronto context are my guess).
- Title of the Wingard film (You're Next) is inferred from the transcript's 'your next'.
- Gena Rowlands, Kate Flynn, Ryan Coogler, Sam Bodrojan, and Eric Yue are guesses at garbled names.
- Jean Smart, Coralie Fargeat, Diablo Cody are spelling corrections of garbled names.
Films that came up
subject (1)
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma
compared (37)
I Saw the TV Glow · Halloween · Scary Movie · The Odyssey · We're All Going to the World's Fair · Hacks · Friday the 13th · Maddie's Secret · A Clockwork Orange · Reservoir Dogs · The X-Files · Sunset Boulevard · Sleepaway Camp · A Nightmare on Elm Street 2 · Horror Movie (Paul Tremblay novel) · Obsession · Fatal Attraction · The Blair Witch Project · Paranormal Activity · Smile · Smile 2 · Black Christmas · The Texas Chain Saw Massacre · Alien · Night of the Living Dead · The Cabin in the Woods · You're Next (title not said; 'your next', Adam Wingard) · Ready or Not · Revenge · Happy Death Day · Us · Midsummer · Prey · Pearl · MaXXXine · X · Widow's Bay
passing (21)
Self-Induced Hallucination · Collective Unconscious · Backrooms · Scream · I Know What You Did Last Summer · The House of Mirth (transcribed 'House of Merth') · Hannibal · A Streetcar Named Desire · Commando · Obsession (De Palma) · Carrie · A Nightmare on Elm Street · Hellraiser · Jennifer's Body · Ready or Not sequel · Resident Evil · Whalefall · The Evil Dead films · Black Hole · Undertone · The Nutty Professor
anecdote (8)
Scarface · Miller's Crossing · Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein · South Park · Silent Hill · Great Expectations · Avatar · Leprechaun reboot
recommended (3)
The End of Evangelion · Bouchra (transcribed 'Bouchira') · The Invite
Claims (72)
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people (people):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → I Saw the TV Glow.
Miasma reuses much of the TV Glow crew: the same cinematographer, editor and composer.
“A lot of the crew from, I saw the TV glow is back. Cinematographer Eric, you, it's edited by Graham Mason. Alex G is back to provide a score.”
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contrast (contrast):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Scary Movie.
Miasma is not Scary Movie because it has no contempt or opportunism toward its material.
“It's not like scary movie because it doesn't have, it doesn't have contempt or like just opportunism for what it's dealing with.”
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verdict (verdict):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → The Odyssey.
Seeing Miasma a second time felt like a second viewing of The Odyssey: it improved once the intentions were clear.
“the 2nd viewing reminded me a lot of my 2nd viewing of the Odyssey”
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contrast (contrast):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Halloween.
It could sit between Scary Movie and Halloween in theory but generates a different feeling.
“In theory this movie lives in between those two, but it doesn't at all.”
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career (career):
We're All Going to the World's Fair → Self-Induced Hallucination.
Jane's earlier work analyzed viral horror and creepypasta after the fact; the phrase suits the whole body of work.
“But really just analyzing that idea of viral horror, creepy pastor, horror, participatory horror.”
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career (career):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → We're All Going to the World's Fair.
Jane's films move from a vlogging girl to TV obsessives to a creator, getting more explicit about gender and media.
“where in World's Fair, it's, you know, like a girl, uh, uh, vlogging, you know, in YouTube”
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career (career):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → I Saw the TV Glow.
The arc runs from viewers (World's Fair, TV Glow) to fans to creators, and Miasma folds the earlier films into itself.
“We've gone from viewers, to fans, to creators.”
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contrast (contrast):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → I Saw the TV Glow.
TV Glow is melancholy and anxious; Miasma is preoccupied with pleasure.
“Miasma is so preoccupied with pleasure.”
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contrast (contrast):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → I Saw the TV Glow.
Both show a child consuming media, but TV Glow carries shame and Miasma carries wonder.
“but it's not shame, it's wonder.”
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industry (industry):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Quentin Tarantino.
The movie sits in the post-Tarantino phenomenon of cinephile-flattering films, but Jane is an artist, not a hack.
“this is the post-Tarantino phenomenon of like, you know, critics get turned into to fanboys”
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craft (craft):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Friday the 13th.
The movie's reference points are deliberately uncool: Night Swimming, Long December and the Friday the 13th franchise.
“They're night swimming and long December and the Friday the 13th franchise.”
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craft (craft):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Zucker Brothers.
The tone swings between madcap Zucker-style gags, slasher POV horror and Sundance coming-of-age sincerity.
“almost like Zucker Brothers gags, into pure slasher POV horror”
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craft (craft):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Maddie's Secret.
Like Maddie's Secret, Miasma puts everything in quotes without belittling or undermining it.
“I make the comparison in a way to Maddie's secret, the John Early film, which I really like.”
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lineage (lineage):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Friday the 13th.
The in-film franchise is very much Friday the 13th while also running through the paces of Scream and I Know What You Did Last Summer.
“It is very much Friday the 13th, but it's also gone through some of the same paces as Scream, and I know what you did last summer and things like that.”
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lineage (lineage):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → A Clockwork Orange.
The contrapuntal needle drop descends from Singin' in the Rain in Clockwork Orange and Stuck in the Middle with You in Reservoir Dogs.
“all the way back to singing in the rain in Clockwork Orange or stuck in the middle with you in, in, in, in Reservoir dogs.”
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craft (craft):
A Clockwork Orange → Reservoir Dogs.
Both use music that deliberately does not go with the violence.
“all the way back to singing in the rain in Clockwork Orange or stuck in the middle with you in, in, in, in Reservoir dogs.”
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craft (craft):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Albert Brooks.
The film's mix of anxiety and humor is the Albert Brooks, Ari Aster, Elaine May kind of funny.
“I'm sure you would agree, you know, you're a fan of Albert Brooks.”
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career (career):
Gillian Anderson → The House of Mirth (transcribed 'House of Merth').
Her great-actor credentials include The House of Mirth and Hannibal.
“And if you watch, you know, the House of Merth, you're like, that's a great actor, or you watch Hannibal, you know, that's a great actor.”
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people (people):
I Saw the TV Glow → Fred Durst.
Using Limp Bizkit's Fred Durst as the face of paternal disapproval in TV Glow was an inspired casting of iconography.
“what an amazing idea to have like Limp Biscuit as the face of kind of like, you know, paternal disapproval.”
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people (people):
I Saw the TV Glow → Phoebe Bridgers.
TV Glow also uses musicians in the cast, Phoebe Bridgers and Caroline Polachek.
“TV Glow does it with musicians with Phoebe Bridgers and Caroline Polachek.”
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lineage (lineage):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Sleepaway Camp.
Sleepaway Camp is among the films in Miasma's DNA, along with Nightmare on Elm Street 2.
“I think the movies that are in this movie's DNA or that have come up in interviews”
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theme (theme):
A Nightmare on Elm Street 2 → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
The famous queer reading of Elm Street 2, and whether it was intended, is the territory Miasma works in.
“the queer reading of Nightmare Elm Street 2 is very famous and very popular.”
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theme (theme):
A Nightmare on Elm Street 2 → Commando.
The same question of unintended queer subtext could be asked of Commando.
“You say the same thing about commando, frankly?”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 0:31:50 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Horror Movie (Paul Tremblay novel).
Tremblay's novel has executive meetings uncannily close to Miasma's, though the two are independent.
“And it's uncanny how close his scenes meeting with the executives are to the scenes in, um, in miasma.”
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verdict (verdict):
Obsession → Backrooms.
Naming Backrooms or Obsession as what is right or wrong with horror loses the game.
“I think saying back rooms or obsession or any movie is just like what's right or wrong with horror is losing...”
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contrast (contrast):
Sleepaway Camp → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
Sleepaway Camp seems to foresee gender dynamics by accident; Miasma subverts that by announcing everything it does.
“And this movie is an attempt, I think, to almost like subvert that sensation by literalizing everything by announcing everything that it's doing.”
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verdict (verdict):
Obsession → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
The speaker likes Miasma exponentially more than Obsession.
“I like camping miasma exponentially more, you know, like much, much more.”
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verdict (verdict):
Obsession → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
Miasma gets an A plus; Obsession is incomplete but has dirty hands and opens a can of worms.
“I'd say obsession is kind of incomplete.”
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what-if (what-if):
Obsession → Fatal Attraction.
Imagine Fatal Attraction arriving in the Twitter era; that is the scale of Obsession's discourse.
“If Fatal Attraction had come out when Twitter existed, or if Twitter had existed for Fatal Attraction,”
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theme (theme):
Obsession → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
One film literalizes the gender and fraud dynamics and the other supernaturalizes them; neither is right.
“one movie can kind of literalize the idea and another movie can kind of supernaturalize the idea”
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industry (industry):
Obsession → The Blair Witch Project.
Like Blair Witch and Paranormal Activity, the question for Obsession is whether it is repeatable rather than just sequelizable.
“in the case of those movies, it's sequelizable without being repeatable.”
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craft (craft):
Obsession → Smile 2.
Obsession takes its sound design and camera movement from Smile 2.
“obsession is certainly grabbing quite a bit in terms of its mechanical decision making from smile to.”
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lineage (lineage):
Obsession → Smile.
Even more so it borrows from the original Smile: what if a person stared at the camera.
“Well, very much from the original smile.”
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unmapped (theory):
Halloween → Carol Clover.
Laurie Strode is the signature final girl of Clover's tradition.
“and Lori Strode being the signature.”
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unmapped (theory):
Black Christmas → Carol Clover.
Clover identifies Jess Bradford as a final girl.
“she identifies Jess Bradford from Black Christmas.”
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unmapped (theory):
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre → Carol Clover.
Clover's final-girl essay singles out Sally Hardesty from Texas Chain Saw.
“She identifies Sally Hardesty from Texas Chainsaw Massacre.”
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lineage (lineage):
Alien → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
Ripley stripped to underwear at the end is a vulnerability beat that Miasma echoes.
“Yes, it is echoed in Teenage Tech”
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lineage (lineage):
Night of the Living Dead → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
The first girl in Night of the Living Dead is also the final girl, chased through the cemetery, and Miasma plays with that.
“I mean, candy asthma has fun with that too.”
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theme (theme):
Carrie → Carol Clover.
Carrie White is both the monster and the final girl at the same time.
“It's funny to think of Carrie White as a load bearing character who was both the monster and the final girl at the same time.”
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theme (theme):
Sleepaway Camp → Hellraiser.
Angela Baker flips the final girl through its reveal, while Kirsty Cotton is called a really good one.
“Angela Baker from Sleepaway Camp, which kind of flips that on its head because of the shocking reveal of that film.”
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lineage (lineage):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → The Cabin in the Woods.
Some critics compare Miasma to Cabin in the Woods, which popped the hood on horror and elevated it into discourse.
“some people have compared can't be asthma to the Joss Whedon film to Cabin in the Woods, which is an interesting comparison.”
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contrast (contrast):
The Cabin in the Woods → You're Next (title not said; 'your next', Adam Wingard).
The speaker pairs Cabin with the Wingard film in which the final girl is tougher than the killer.
“what if Lori Strode studied jiu-jitsu before encountering Michael Myers”
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lineage (lineage):
You're Next (title not said; 'your next', Adam Wingard) → Ready or Not.
Ready or Not riffs on the same stronger-than-the-killer final girl.
“ready or not, is kind of riffing on this at this point now, too.”
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theme (theme):
Revenge → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
Revenge plays intelligently with the final girl as victim, killed, resurrected and avenging, coded rape revenge.
“She goes from the victim to sort of the...”
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people (people):
Ready or Not sequel → David Cronenberg.
The sequel is a Toronto-shot film with Cronenberg as the dying criminal patriarch, and the final girl gets a sister.
“good performance by David Cronenberg, as the dying criminal patriarch in that Toronto shot film.”
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people (people):
Happy Death Day → Jessica Rothe.
Her performance carries the final girl's existential frustration at knowing she is the final girl.
“she's funny because she has the existential frustration of knowing she's the final girl”
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theme (theme):
Us → Midsummer.
Us and Midsummer are prestige films that actively explore what it means to be a final girl though not pure slashers.
“I think Danny in Midsummer really, really fits the bill”
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lineage (lineage):
X → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
After X, Pearl and MaXXXine the self-referential riffing on rape revenge and slasher films hit a dead end, and Miasma rebuilds the bridge.
“we have kind of gotten to the conclusive point of self-referential riffing on rape revenge and slasher films”
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contrast (contrast):
MaXXXine → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
MaXXXine has similar ideas but lacks the form, execution, style and tone Miasma has.
“which miasma has.”
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theme (theme):
Widow's Bay → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
The 'Final Girl' episode of Widow's Bay, with its pursued woman, is described as very Miasma-ish.
“which is very miasma-ish too”
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lineage (lineage):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → The Texas Chain Saw Massacre.
Miasma restages the sex, death, chase and catharsis of the classic final-girl structure differently from Texas Chain Saw.
“in a very different way than, you know, Texas Chainsaw Massacre.”
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career (career):
Austin Abrams → Resident Evil.
Abrams is floated as this fall's final girl across Resident Evil and Whalefall.
“Is is Austin Abrams This Falls Final Girl?”
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verdict (verdict):
Bruce Campbell → The Evil Dead films.
Bruce Campbell as Ash is the greatest final boy, macho-coded but swaying between competence and cowardice.
“The way he sort of sways between like total competence and just like shrieking cowardice is a gift that just keeps on on giving.”
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craft (craft):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → R.E.M..
Adam loves the Night Swimming cover that opens the film and how well it suits summertime at the camp.
“I love the cover of night swimming at the beginning. I can't not. I mean, I love REM.”
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craft (craft):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → David Cronenberg.
The movies emerging from a hole in the lake as VHS tapes come out of a Cronenbergian slit.
“I love how they come out of that kind of Cronenbergian slit and they're already VHS tapes, you know?”
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people (people):
John Carpenter → Halloween.
Carpenter told the speaker he did not know what a 'final girl' was, until told it came from a Carol Clover essay.
“I don't know what that is.”
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contrast (contrast):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → The Black Hole.
Black Hole is aware of genre tropes but is not about them.
“Black Hole is aware of genre tropes, but it is not about genre tropes.”
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career (career):
Hannah Einbinder → Silent Hill.
Hannah's first horror was Silent Hill; she rewatched it and now identifies with the mom.
“I think I'm more so identified with the perspective of the mom.”
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people (people):
Gillian Anderson → Hannah Einbinder.
Jane paired the two because no one had put two such actors in a deranged erotic thriller.
“there's never been a, a, like, pairing of like 2 actors who are starring in like an erotic thriller of sorts that's been quite deranged in this style.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:08:30 · Jane Schoenbrun (0.90 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Gillian Anderson → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
Jane says few actors can make the entrance Anderson makes in the movie.
“there are very few actors who can like make the entrance that Jillian makes in this movie”
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career (career):
Hannah Einbinder → Hacks.
Hannah's Hacks dynamic with Jean Smart informs her casting; Jane knew her first through Hacks and her stand-up special.
“And Hannah, I was a fan of through hacks, but I watched her stand-up special.”
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career (career):
Gillian Anderson → The X-Files.
Anderson's iconic status comes from the X-Files, which is why her casting works as iconography.
“whether that's because of, you know, it, X-Files being an iconic show”
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lineage (lineage):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Sunset Boulevard.
Billy is partly a Sunset Boulevard figure, which Anderson played with in costuming, and the film acknowledges the Norma Desmond comparison itself.
“the Sunset Boulevard reference”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:14:37 · Gillian Anderson (0.90 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Whit Stillman.
Jane wanted fast-paced Stillman-like dialogue with stoner goofs.
“fast-paced with Stillman kind of dialogue and stonery”
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career (career):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → I Saw the TV Glow.
Jane felt freed of the 'sad teen' shadow of TV Glow while making Miasma.
“liberated from some, some like conception of myself post TV glow”
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craft (craft):
Gillian Anderson → Great Expectations.
On Great Expectations Anderson made a bold voice choice unrehearsed, which taught her to trust her instinct; she trusted Jane to tell her if it did not work.
“I remember with great expectations, uh, many years ago, I, I hadn't really even done her voice out loud”
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industry (industry):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Leprechaun reboot.
The film's zombie-IP premise grew from Jane being sent scripts and a Leprechaun reboot after World's Fair.
“But I also got submitted the leprechaun reboot.”
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craft (craft):
Eric → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
On the first shoot day the cinematographer Eric wanted a close-up of Anderson patting the chicken, which helped open the film up for Hannah.
“Eric was like, we got to get it close up for that chicken pad.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:40:38 · Jane Schoenbrun (0.60 sure it was them) -
craft (music):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → Adam Duritz.
Jane chose Long December over Night Swimming for the scene and then texted Counting Crows' Adam Duritz about it.
“I think this might be a better choice than night swimming and night swimming is like my favorite song.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:47:07 · Jane Schoenbrun (0.90 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Counting Crows → Bright Eyes.
Jane places Counting Crows in a lineage of earnest music boys were embarrassed to like, alongside Bright Eyes.
“there's like a lineage of like people that was like embarrassing to like if you were a boy.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:48:45 · Jane Schoenbrun (0.90 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma → The End of Evangelion.
Jane called End of Evangelion one of the great films and the right mindset for a press tour.
“That's like one of the great films.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:52:09 · Jane Schoenbrun (0.90 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Invite → Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
Anderson's pick, The Invite, also glides between tones, as Miasma does.
“Another movie that kind of glides between tone pretty comfortably in the same way as your movie.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:54:12 · Sean Fennessey (0.90 sure it was them)
Fun items (28)
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fun, about
Camp Miasma (mid-film kill scene):
The big POV slasher set piece is deliberately not 80s: computer-assisted fluid camera, a pop needle drop, then the camera turns to the killer's face, the face of the filmmaker.
“and it's like the movie knows that.”
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fun, about
Camp Miasma:
The movie is candy-coated; the toughness is buried under it, the way razor blades go in Halloween candy.
“You put razor blades in it on Halloween, you know?”
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fun, about
Rating the movies:
Critics' bad-filmmaker rule: the better the filmmaker, the less one claims to know their intentions.
“The better the filmmaker, the less inclined I am to know their intentions.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 0:20:58 · Adam Nayman (0.55 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Raisinettes in popcorn:
Chris pours Raisinettes into a popcorn bucket, one person's breaking point; the speaker defends it as making popcorn tolerable.
“Who would put raisinettes and popcorn?”
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fun, about
Camp Miasma (voyeur and victim):
Chris's confession of wanting to be both voyeur and victim is the film's most critical scene and a double-edged pleasure.
“you're the voyeur and the victim at the same time.”
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fun, about
Camp Miasma (the movie-within-movie viewing):
Chris keeps annotating the old film's technique and transphobia while Billy rolls her eyes: the movie asks if you can enjoy something without its externalities.
“and can you enjoy it without its externalities?”
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fun, about
Obsession:
The discourse around Obsession is the most deranged for any American movie since the speaker started; 80 percent the moment, 20 percent the movie.
“about 80% of that is the moment that we're in, and only 20% of it is the movie.”
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fun, about
Smile:
In the theater someone shouted 'she's gonna smile' like calling a WrestleMania finisher.
“She gonna smile.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 0:44:56 · Adam Nayman (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Macho Man Randy Savage:
Adam hated Hulk Hogan as a kid and loved Macho Man at a Maple Leaf Gardens house show with his reluctant dad; his favorite finisher is the big elbow.
“Oh, I mean, the the the macho man big elbow.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 0:45:04 · Adam Nayman (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Scarface / Scott Hall:
Story that Scott Hall auditioned for Vince McMahon as Tony Montana and afterwards admitted he didn't know what Scarface was.
“I do not know what Scarface is.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 0:46:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Alien:
In the original Alien script Ripley was a man, and little changed for Weaver beyond Ridley Scott stripping her to underwear at the end.
“Ripley was a man.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 0:47:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Camp Miasma (opening credits):
The opening credits compress a franchise life cycle: exploitation, reboots, cartoon, collector's item, space.
“and then they send them to space.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 0:50:24 · Adam Nayman (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Widow's Bay:
The final-girl episode has a woman keep pointing a gun at a dead figure for five minutes through different rooms.
“she just kept pointing the gun at it for like about 5 minutes”
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fun, about
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre:
Sally is the final girl almost by default, barely a character, and her ride away on the truck is one of the greatest moments in any movie.
“That's one of the greatest moments in any movie, not just horror movie.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 0:58:15 · Adam Nayman (0.55 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre:
A rep house's original print broke at the exact moment Sally jumps into the truck; the audience was freaked out by the abrupt ending.
“the print broke.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 0:58:42 · Adam Nayman (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
John Carpenter:
Carpenter had never heard of the final girl; his main interest outside his own movies was NBA basketball.
“He was a great basketball fan.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:02:03 · Adam Nayman (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Undertone:
The year also brought a Canadian haunted-podcast movie; the hosts joke it describes their own show.
“Some are saying this has been the haunted podcast for many years.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:03:10 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Jane Schoenbrun:
Jane's first horror film was a grandmother's copy of Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, and as a kid watched the first South Park broadcast with their parents.
“I think technically was my grandma's copy of Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:04:30 · Jane Schoenbrun (0.90 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Gillian Anderson:
Her only Texas Chain Saw viewing was a bad marijuana trip in a stranger's one-room apartment; she can watch gruesome true crime but not horror.
“they decided to put on Texas Chainsaw Massacre.”
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fun, about
Jane Schoenbrun:
Jane was submitted a Leprechaun reboot after World's Fair, suspecting studios thought a trans director would cancel out criticism.
“I think they're sending this to me because they think that like trans will cancel out.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:29:18 · Jane Schoenbrun (0.90 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Camp Miasma (the blood scene):
The blood was mixed with a drill in a bucket, a man under the bed pumped it, and there was no backup bed; Hannah has sensory issues with wet fabric.
“The blood, they were mixing it up with a drill.”
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fun, about
Camp Miasma (gas station):
Hannah says the last split-diopter shot in blood felt glorious, tied to being visibly trans: people look at you as if you're covered in blood.
“sometimes people look at me like I'm covered in blood”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:35:15 · Hannah Einbinder (0.90 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Camp Miasma (chicken pat):
Jane says the film opened up for them when Anderson patted the chicken at dinner; the cinematographer wanted a close-up of the chicken pat.
“we got to get it close up for that chicken pad.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:40:38 · Jane Schoenbrun (0.90 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Gillian Anderson:
Anderson notes the dinner scenes work best played straight, with Billy's naivete against Chris's anxiety, not as seduction.
“those scenes couldn't have been played like, um, uh, foreplay scenes”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:41:26 · Gillian Anderson (0.85 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Counting Crows:
Jane wrote the script after a big 2024 breakup, leaning on Counting Crows records, and ended up swapping Night Swimming for Long December in the key scene.
“I wrote the script for nights swimming”
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fun, about
Adam Duritz:
Adam Duritz told Jane he had always wanted Long December to be part of a killer scene.
“he said, I've always wanted Long December to be part of a killer warner.”
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fun, about
The End of Evangelion:
Jane saw it at a Regal during a night off with an extra large icee; the last line, 'disgusting,' fit the press tour week.
“And at the end of that movie, the last line is just disgusting.”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:52:12 · Jane Schoenbrun (0.90 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Bouchra:
Hannah's pick is an animated Sapphic furry trilingual French Moroccan family dramedy with casual, scriptless-sounding voiceover.
“It's an animated, uh, Sapphic, furry, trilingual, French Moroccan”
The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 1:52:34 · Hannah Einbinder (0.85 sure it was them)
Who's talking
- Sean Fennessey (host): Loves slashers and the final-girl canon, and writes about them; holds Miasma up as an A-plus and Obsession as incomplete but provocative. Uses Smile 2 as a reference. Is a sucker for tonal gear-shifts and sincere-yet-silly filmmaking.
- Adam Nayman (host): Self-described slasher fan who likes a movie that plays with tropes intelligently; admires Miasma's playfulness and sincerity but dislikes its showbiz satire. Soft spot for Texas Chain Saw, wrestling and Toronto sports. Wary of the idea that references alone make a movie smart.
- Jane Schoenbrun (guest): Loves genre mischief, Stillman dialogue, camp and the end-of-the-world intensity of Evangelion. Does not want to keep making pure-pain films; likes goofy, funny material and wants a long, surprising career. Embarrassed in youth by earnest music like Counting Crows and Bright Eyes, now reclaiming it.
- Hannah Einbinder (guest): Genre-agnostic about what she'll do next; wants only good work. Approaches comedy by treating it as dead serious for the character, and uses costume to find a character's body. Her first horror memory is Silent Hill.
- Gillian Anderson (guest): Does not watch horror and avoids it; trust in the director and a bold, researched choice drive her work. Likes confident filmmakers who communicate with actors. Her pick is The Invite.
The show's recurring bits
- Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
- Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
- Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.
Names the transcriber got wrong
- 'Sean's Fantasy' = Sean Fennessey
- 'Adam Neiman' = Adam Nayman
- 'Jillian'/'Julian'/'Joey' Anderson = Gillian Anderson
- 'Hannah Einbender'/'Han Einbender' = Hannah Einbinder
- 'Jane Shumra'/'Jane Shunbrun' = Jane Schoenbrun
- 'Eric, you' = cinematographer Eric Yue (surname unclear)
- 'Cat and Crows'/'Counting class' = Counting Crows
- 'cannibal/candy asthma'/'can't be asthma'/'Cammy Asma'/'campiasma' = Camp Miasma
- 'Adam Winkard' = Adam Wingard; 'your next' = You're Next
- 'Corley Farr' = Coralie Fargeat
- 'Cato Flynn' = Kate Flynn (guess)
- 'Maxine Minx' = MaXXXine
- 'Jessica Roth' = Jessica Rothe
- 'Gene Smart' = Jean Smart
- 'Gina Rollins' = Gena Rowlands (guess)
- 'Jason Bloom' = Jason Blum
- 'Adam Durritz' = Adam Duritz
- 'Kugler' = Ryan Coogler (guess)
- 'Bouchira' = Bouchra
- 'Sam Brogen' = Sam Bodrojan (guess)
- 'Ari Astor' = Ari Aster
- 'Joss Whedon film' = The Cabin in the Woods co-writer