Logan (2017)
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Who talked about it
The Big Picture
- David Shoemaker: 1 line in The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35)
- Sean Fennessey: 1 line in The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35)
- Unattributed: 3 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Deadpool: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (lineage):
Deadpool ⇒ Logan (the host's read).
Deadpool started the shift to telling the best story true to one character, which Logan continued.
“this started with Deadpool, the Ryan Reynolds standalone Deadpool movie”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:43:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
No line says another film or person drew on it.
Connected to
Avengers: Infinity War: 1 line verdict ×1
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verdict (verdict):
Logan → Avengers: Infinity War.
Logan is the better movie, but Infinity War was more fun.
“I think Logan's a better movie.”
The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:43:05 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Deadpool: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (lineage):
Logan → Deadpool.
Deadpool started the shift to telling the best story true to one character, which Logan continued.
“this started with Deadpool, the Ryan Reynolds standalone Deadpool movie”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:43:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Deadpool & Wolverine: 1 line contrast ×1
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contrast (contrast):
Deadpool & Wolverine → Logan.
Deadpool & Wolverine is like a Mad magazine issue about a Marvel movie, unlike serious Logan.
“I view Deadpool and Wolverine as like the Mad magazine issue about a Marvel movie.”
The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:42:08 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
X-Men: 1 line contrast ×1
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contrast (contrast):
Logan → X-Men.
Logan works by taking two characters and good supporting actors instead of shoehorning everyone in, as the X-Men films did.
“I'm just going to take 2 of the characters and surround them with good supporting actors”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:42:59 · David Shoemaker (0.50 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- recommended in The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained?, first at 1:39:42, 7 times
- recommended in The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35), first at 0:42:51, 4 times
What was said about it, by kind
contrast (2)
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contrast (contrast):
Deadpool & Wolverine → Logan.
Deadpool & Wolverine is like a Mad magazine issue about a Marvel movie, unlike serious Logan.
“I view Deadpool and Wolverine as like the Mad magazine issue about a Marvel movie.”
The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:42:08 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Logan → X-Men.
Logan works by taking two characters and good supporting actors instead of shoehorning everyone in, as the X-Men films did.
“I'm just going to take 2 of the characters and surround them with good supporting actors”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:42:59 · David Shoemaker (0.50 sure it was them)
lineage (1)
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lineage (lineage):
Logan → Deadpool.
Deadpool started the shift to telling the best story true to one character, which Logan continued.
“this started with Deadpool, the Ryan Reynolds standalone Deadpool movie”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:43:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
verdict (1)
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verdict (verdict):
Logan → Avengers: Infinity War.
Logan is the better movie, but Infinity War was more fun.
“I think Logan's a better movie.”
The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:43:05 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
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fun, about
Logan:
Logan called incredible; hosts agree it is the template for letting a character breathe.
“Logan is incredible.”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:42:51 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- Patrick Stewart: actor (The Big Picture, ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained?)
- Hugh Jackman: actor (The Big Picture, ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained?)
- Hugh Jackman: actor (Wolverine) (The Big Picture, The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35))
- Dafne Keen: actor (The Big Picture, ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained?)