New York, New York (1977)
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Wikidata Q743367, film, IMDb tt0076451, TMDB 12637: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Martin Scorsese as director (The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie); 4 more episodes agree.
What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.
Who talked about it
Blank Check with Griffin & David
- Griffin Newman: 2 lines in The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie
- Unattributed: 2 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
No line says it drew on another film or person.
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
Raging Bull: 1 line the host's read ×1
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career (career crisis):
New York, New York ⇒ Raging Bull (the host's read).
New York, New York's failure and bad reviews, with drugs and a collapsing marriage, pushed Scorsese toward making Raging Bull as a lifeline.
“New York, New York comes out to bad reviews.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 0:46:51 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Connected to
Raging Bull: 2 lines career ×1 unmapped ×1
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unmapped (repetition and improv):
Raging Bull → New York, New York.
Both lean on repeated improvised dialogue, but Raging Bull's repetition is funny and drives the brothers, while New York, New York's is punishing.
“New York has the same very repetitive or cursive improvs, but it's not funny.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:31:42 · David Sims or Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Harvey Keitel: 1 line people ×1
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people (casting):
Harvey Keitel → New York, New York.
Keitel's Judas is a better version of what De Niro's Jimmy Doyle is trying to be, without charm.
“Keitel's presence in this feels like a better version of what Jimmy Doyle is trying to be without trying to make him charming.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 1:02:01 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
The Last Temptation of Christ: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (structural):
The Last Temptation of Christ → New York, New York.
Both run long stretches of repeated set pieces around a central pairing, then a final act turning inward, ending in a tragic blow; Last Temptation reads as a corrective.
“I think this movie is fascinatingly, structurally so similar to New York, New York.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 1:00:52 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie, first at 0:20:17, 3 times
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan, first at 0:19:00, 2 times
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz, first at 1:11:51, 1 time
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz, first at 0:07:15, 8 times
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey, first at 0:13:46, 2 times
What was said about it, by kind
career (1)
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career (career crisis):
New York, New York → Raging Bull.
New York, New York's failure and bad reviews, with drugs and a collapsing marriage, pushed Scorsese toward making Raging Bull as a lifeline.
“New York, New York comes out to bad reviews.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 0:46:51 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
craft (1)
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craft (structural):
The Last Temptation of Christ → New York, New York.
Both run long stretches of repeated set pieces around a central pairing, then a final act turning inward, ending in a tragic blow; Last Temptation reads as a corrective.
“I think this movie is fascinatingly, structurally so similar to New York, New York.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 1:00:52 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
people (1)
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people (casting):
Harvey Keitel → New York, New York.
Keitel's Judas is a better version of what De Niro's Jimmy Doyle is trying to be, without charm.
“Keitel's presence in this feels like a better version of what Jimmy Doyle is trying to be without trying to make him charming.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 1:02:01 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
unmapped (1)
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unmapped (repetition and improv):
Raging Bull → New York, New York.
Both lean on repeated improvised dialogue, but Raging Bull's repetition is funny and drives the brothers, while New York, New York's is punishing.
“New York has the same very repetitive or cursive improvs, but it's not funny.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:31:42 · David Sims or Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
None.
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- Martin Scorsese: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie)
- Martin Scorsese: director (The Rewatchables, ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey)
- Martin Scorsese: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raging Bull with David Krumholtz)
- Robert De Niro: actor (Jimmy Doyle) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raging Bull with David Krumholtz)
- Irwin Winkler: producer (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raging Bull with David Krumholtz)
- Mardik Martin: writer (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raging Bull with David Krumholtz)