Irwin Winkler

Made films the shows talk about.

Wikidata Q950428: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.

Counted as producer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they produced, which the two lists below run through too: Rocky (1976); New York, New York (1977); Raging Bull (1980); The Right Stuff (1983); Round Midnight (1986); The Last Temptation of Christ (1988); (his memoir).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Annie Hall (1977): 1 line

  1. unmapped (zeitgeist precedent) · through Raging Bull (1980), which they produced: Annie Hall ⇒ Raging Bull (the host's read). Annie Hall established the late-70s map for human-frailty stories with comedy and fragile men, which Scorsese then exploited to horrify.
    “part of that map is is Annie Hall.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:32:35 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Barbara Hershey: 1 line

  1. lineage (origin of project) · through The Last Temptation of Christ (1988), which they produced: Barbara Hershey ⇒ The Last Temptation of Christ (the host's read). Hershey also planted the book in Scorsese's head and told him to let her audition as Mary Magdalene.
    “But it's planted in his head by her.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:44:30 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Ben-Hur (1959): 1 line

  1. unmapped (accent convention) · through The Last Temptation of Christ (1988), which they produced: Ben-Hur ⇒ The Last Temptation of Christ (the host's read). Scorsese made the Romans British, as in Ben-Hur, with everyone else American.
    “He said the big thing was to give let the Romans be British.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 1:02:57 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Boxcar Bertha (1972): 1 line

  1. unmapped (production method) · through The Last Temptation of Christ (1988), which they produced: Boxcar Bertha ⇒ The Last Temptation of Christ (the maker said so). Scorsese's Corman-style Boxcar Bertha experience let him storyboard and time every shot to make Last Temptation cheaply.
    “I never would have been able to make this movie if I didn't have my Corman background and experience a boxcar Bertha specifically”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:54:52 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Chuck Wepner: 1 line

  1. people (people) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Chuck Wepner ⇒ Rocky (the host's read). Stallone watched Wepner take a beating from Ali for 15 rounds and was inspired to write Rocky in 3.5 days.
    “He's watching Webner Ali in 75, which was the real life version of this.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:19:58 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Italianamerican (1974): 1 line

  1. lineage (dialogue rhythm source) · through Raging Bull (1980), which they produced: Italianamerican ⇒ Raging Bull (the host's read). Scorsese's parents fighting in Italianamerican and American Boy taught him the rhythm replicated in Raging Bull's family fight scenes.
    “And so much of his parents fighting in Italian American is the feeling of the family fight scenes in this movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:58:33 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

New York, New York (1977): 1 line, within their own work

  1. career (career crisis) · through Raging Bull (1980), which they produced: New York, New York ⇒ Raging Bull (the host's read). New York, New York's failure and bad reviews, with drugs and a collapsing marriage, pushed Scorsese toward making Raging Bull as a lifeline.
    “New York, New York comes out to bad reviews.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 0:46:51 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

On the Waterfront (1954): 1 line

  1. unmapped (meta ending) · through Raging Bull (1980), which they produced: On the Waterfront ⇒ Raging Bull (the host's read). LaMotta recites the Waterfront monologue flat; the film swapped it in for Shakespeare, which Michael Powell vetoed.
    “So they they instead go for the on the waterfront because that's kind of like that's his iconography.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 0:55:17 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Rocky (1976): 1 line, within their own work

  1. theme (anti-genre) · through Raging Bull (1980), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ Raging Bull (the maker said so). Scorsese shot in black and white to differentiate from Rocky-era bright red-white-and-blue boxing movies, and producer Winkler produced both.
    “Number one, I want to differentiate from the Rockies and all the other sort of boxing movies right now.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:08:55 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

The Color of Money (1986): 1 line

  1. career (career enabler) · through The Last Temptation of Christ (1988), which they produced: The Color of Money ⇒ The Last Temptation of Christ (the host's read). The paycheck-gig hit stabilizes Scorsese's career and makes Last Temptation and Goodfellas possible.
    “Must admit though, it is the guarantor that allows him to immediately then make. Last temptation of Christ in Goodfellas.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:17:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Longest Yard: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: The Longest Yard ⇒ Rocky (the host's read). Longest Yard arguably started the big-event beats, but Rocky is what made the sports-movie recipe stick.
    “which I guess you could say longest yard started it, but once Rocky did this.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:06:09 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)

The Robe (1953): 1 line

  1. lineage (influence) · through The Last Temptation of Christ (1988), which they produced: The Robe ⇒ The Last Temptation of Christ (the host's read). The Robe is the first Christ movie Scorsese remembers seeing.
    “The 1st Christ movie he remembers seeing is the robe.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:45:07 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

After Hours (1985): 3 lines

  1. career (personal projection) · through The Last Temptation of Christ (1988), which they produced: The Last Temptation of Christ ⇒ After Hours (the maker said so: Scorsese quoted in an oral history). Scorsese worked Kafka's Before the Law into the club doorman scene to reflect his frustration over Last Temptation.
    “inspired by Franz Kafka's before the law. And Scorsese said the short story reflected his frustration toward the production of the Last Temptation of Christ.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 1:23:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (cause) · through The Last Temptation of Christ (1988), which they produced: The Last Temptation of Christ ⇒ After Hours (the maker said so: a Scorsese quote on After Hours being a reaction to the Last Temptation ordeal). After Paramount collapsed Last Temptation, Scorsese wanted a cheap, personal film; After Hours is his reaction to the Hollywood ordeal.
    “it's a reaction against my year and a half into Hollywood trying to get last temptation to Christ made.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:50:49 · unknown host (quoting Scorsese) (0.35 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (sliding door) · through The Last Temptation of Christ (1988), which they produced: The Last Temptation of Christ ⇒ After Hours (the host's read). Paramount cancelling Last Temptation sent Scorsese to a small fast job; one of movie history's sliding doors.
    “it is one of the massive sliding doors in movie history because him not making it leads to him making this movie”
    The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:17:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

Creed (2015): 2 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ Creed (the host's read). Merchant says Creed repeated Rocky's trick of making you care about the character before the fighting.
    “when they rebooted it with Creed, I think they did the same thing”
    The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:46:07 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ Creed (the host's read). Creed closely follows Rocky's structure, but opens with Creed obviously able to fight, unlike Rocky's grim opening bout.
    “in Creed, which very closely follows some of the structures of rocky.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:38:15 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)

Fighting with My Family (2019): 2 lines

  1. craft (craft) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ Fighting with My Family (the maker said so: Merchant in this interview). Merchant says you cannot make a sports movie without watching Rocky and all its sequels.
    “make any kind of sports a movie without watching Rocky or indeed all of the Rockies”
    The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:45:46 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ Fighting with My Family (the maker said so: Merchant in this interview). Merchant calls Rocky a template because it beds in character so you root for him before the fight, a lesson he applied.
    “a template in the sense that it really beds in character”
    The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:46:00 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them)

Raging Bull (1980): 2 lines, within their own work

  1. theme (anti-genre) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ Raging Bull (the maker said so). Scorsese shot in black and white to differentiate from Rocky-era bright red-white-and-blue boxing movies, and producer Winkler produced both.
    “Number one, I want to differentiate from the Rockies and all the other sort of boxing movies right now.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:08:55 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. career (career crisis) · through New York, New York (1977), which they produced: New York, New York ⇒ Raging Bull (the host's read). New York, New York's failure and bad reviews, with drugs and a collapsing marriage, pushed Scorsese toward making Raging Bull as a lifeline.
    “New York, New York comes out to bad reviews.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 0:46:51 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

(the modern sports movie): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ (the modern sports movie) (the host's read). Rocky created the sports-movie prototype and the modern underdog.
    “created the sports movie prototype, like just period.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:05:47 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Bull Durham (1988): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ Bull Durham (the host's read). Bull Durham took the Rocky motto a level further in how a sports movie is written.
    “how can we take that rocky motto and actually go the next level with how we write a movie”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:51 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

Cape Fear (1991): 1 line

  1. industry (business deal) · through The Last Temptation of Christ (1988), which they produced: The Last Temptation of Christ ⇒ Cape Fear (the host's read). Universal's deal to make Last Temptation obliged a bigger film later, resulting in the Spielberg swap and Cape Fear.
    “it gets fear is a direct result of his deal with Universal for this month.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 2:00:50 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Cinderella Man (2005): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ Cinderella Man (the host's read). Rocky set up the idea that a victory transforms the supporting cast too, as in Cinderella Man where he fights for Giamatti.
    “by the time you get to like Cinderella man, you realize that he's not just fighting for him, he's fighting for Giamatti.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:28:11 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)

Rocky Balboa (2006): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ Rocky Balboa (the host's read). The little girl Marie from Rocky grows up to be the love interest in Rocky Balboa.
    “she then becomes the Rocky Balboa love interest.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:14:31 · Van Lathan (0.45 sure it was them)

The Color of Money (1986): 1 line

  1. people (origin of collaboration) · through Raging Bull (1980), which they produced: Raging Bull ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read). Newman watched Raging Bull on Ovitz's recommendation and wanted to work with Scorsese.
    “Paul Newman watches Raging Bull on, I guess Ovid's his recommendation and says, like, that's one of the best things I've ever seen.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:53:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Karate Kid (1984): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they produced: Rocky ⇒ The Karate Kid (the host's read). Rocky is eight years before Karate Kid, which is called the 2.0 version of the same underdog story but a completely different movie in every respect.
    “We're 8 years away from karate kid, which is the next, the 2.0 version of this movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:11:32 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

The King of Comedy (1982): 1 line

  1. lineage (spiritual sequel) · through Raging Bull (1980), which they produced: Raging Bull ⇒ The King of Comedy (the host's read). King of Comedy is a part-2 of sorts about a delusional comedian, echoing LaMotta's stand-up, and is part of a De Niro trilogy with Taxi Driver.
    “There's the king of comedy, the spiritual sequel to Raging Bull.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:55:42 · unknown host (0.30 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Producing (8) everyone in producing

What was said about them, by kind

people (1)

  1. people (producer): Irwin Winkler → Rocky. Winkler produced the Rocky movies and New York, New York, then signed off on an anti-Rocky.
    “Like he's he's willingly signing off to make an anti-rocky.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 2:00:31 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

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